Dale in Atlanta on August 21, 2008 at 2:47 PM
“Even M&W have admitted that it’s a piece of biased, shoddy crap….”
Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 4:50 PM
“Link Please!! Otherwise you are full of BS!”

Dale in Atlanta on August 21, 2008 at 10:22 PM

“if you had read the orginal Wiki M&W article, as I posted in the original reply; you’d have read the paragraph well M&W basically respond to the correct criticism of their bogus Anti-Semitic screed, by acknowledging that it’s full of crap.”

Unlike you I have no reading comprehension problem and make an effort to read everything at provided links. Nowhere in the Wiki article do M&W call there work a “piece of biased, shoddy crap”, or anything close to that. M&W stand by their work according to the Wiki article. It also says a lot about you linking to just the “Criticism” portion of the Wiki article instead of the main link for the whole page.
Using Noam Chomsky to back up your assertions is hilarious. But you haven’t a clue. You are shy about 156 words from your normal 1,000 word plus rants. And we’re still waiting on your answer to, “dave742 on August 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, which points out what a real reading comprehension problem looks like.

I liken them more to a pack of wild dogs…

DfDeportation on August 21, 2008 at 1:06 PM

They seem to me more like lemmings: mindless little rodents who run in packs and follow their leaders off a cliff into the sea!!!

Read DaleinAtlanta’s previous post above and then call me a “nutter” again. I love it.

dave742 on August 21, 2008 at 10:36 PM

For the record “DAVE”; if you can show where I ever called you a “nutter”, I will formally, and publically apologize to you!

On the other hand, I have called you an Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Anti-Semitic Lying Delusional Democratic Traitor Moron Leftist Nutbag…because in fact, you are!

That’s not an insult to call you, because you are that!

Okay?

Obama, earlier today:

Everybody’s watching what’s going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics , Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business you’re starting to think, “Beijing looks like a pretty good option.”

I suppose so. Provided you don’t mind de minimus pollution controls, employing people under Chinese labor conditions, and you don’t mind construction standards in the countryside that allow the collapse of thousands of buildings including schools when the earthquake hits, killing tens of thousands.

Obama has said a lot of stupid things recently, but the idea that totalitarian eye-candy engineering proves Beijing is the better than America is near the top of the list.

Then there is this:

Barack Obama without a teleprompter is an accident waiting to happen. Sometimes he reveals his ignorance of history, sometimes he stumbles incoherently, and sometimes he blurts out what he really believes. That’s what happened today when Obama tried to talk about Georgia, a topic that has embarrassed him more than once already, beginning when, in the first hours after the invasion, he parroted the Russian line.

Today Obama equated Russia’s invasion of Georgia with our toppling of Saddam Hussein:

Democrat Barack Obama scolded Russia again on Wednesday for invading another country’s sovereign territory while adding a new twist: the United States, he said, should set a better example on that front, too.

The Illinois senator’s opposition to the Iraq war, which his comment clearly referenced, is well known. But this was the first time the Democratic presidential candidate has made a comparison between the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Russia’s recent military activity in Georgia.

“We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies,” Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. “They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”

So our “charging into” Iraq–with dozens of allies, supported by a U.N. resolution, as a last resort after six months of build-up and negotiations, to unseat one of the cruelest dictators of modern times who had twice invaded neighboring states, was in violation of more than a dozen U.N. resolutions and was responsible for the deaths of something like two million people, who was shooting at American aircraft and had tried to assassinate a former President of the United States, in Obama’s childish mind, was just like Russia’s “charging into” Georgia, which resembles Saddam’s Iraq in no respect. And, of course, we invaded a horrifying charnel-house so as to establish a democracy, whereas Russia invaded a peaceful democracy that it wants to re-incorporate into its empire.

Is Obama an idiot? I don’t think so, really. But one of the many problems with being a leftist is that it leads you to say lots of stupid things. Today, the Obama gaffe machine went into overdrive. By November, I suspect that most voters will have heard enough to know that Barack Obama is unqualified to be a middle-manager in a well-run company, let alone President of the United States.

“these folks don’t come here to engage in debate”

I am quite willing to debate anything you’d like. I don’t want to debate the DNC repeatedly bringing up the Jewish thing, because I don’t agree with it. In my first post I only explained why I thought it happened. The only other possible debate topic that came up was the M & W book. I have the book in front of me, and am ready to debate whatever you’d like. What do you want to talk about? Please. Let’s engage in an honest debate.

Take away the (2) nutters, and this was a good conversation.

Here’s a composite of what you had before us two “nutters” arrived:

Oy vey…the left is completely obsessed with sex and race. I do not understand the jewish infactuation with the dimmicrats… …the DNC is populated by far-left lunatics, the exact sort of stinky hippies who donned kuffiyehs during A.N.S.W.E.R. rallies against the Iraq War…the far-left and Islamic militants have made common cause to destroy western civilization…the far-left hates Jews every bit as much as Islamic militants do. It’s just that the far-left is too lazy, disorganized and gutless to organize or perpetrate pogroms on their own…and Cantor is really really cheap. Did they add that one in their little rant about Republican Joos? ..all that is left is to call them oily Jews and the story is complete!…I hear Cantor also likes to drink the blood of Palestinian children while he’s not plotting a neocon takeover of the world…Anyone even remotely involved with the national Democrat Party is pure, unadulterated scum. Just horrid people.

This is what you call “good conversation”? Please don’t invite me to your next party if this is good conversation.

Read DaleinAtlanta’s previous post above and then call me a “nutter” again. I love it.

Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Ah…er…okay…yeah, sure..whatever; MORON! YOU completely missed the point: YOU channeled “Jethro Bodine”, attempting to make appear it was me; but since you Channeled it, it proves MY point, that that is YOU!

Get it?

So, YOU proved MY point! In spades…

You are an Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Anti-Semitic Delusional Democratic Leftist Nutbag, and now you can add MORON to that descriptive and apropos appellation as well!

I didn’t move the goalposts at all, if you had read the orginal Wiki M&W article, as I posted in the original reply; you’d have read the paragraph well M&W basically respond to the correct criticism of their bogus Anti-Semitic screed, by acknowledging that it’s full of crap.

But since you have the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader, you’re demading a “link”; find it yourself MORON!!

So, lets recap for you, shall we, since you clearly do not just GET IT!

a) LINK: find it yourself, it’s there!
b) ergo, I moved No goalposts, and there are not crickets chirping..
c) Jethro Bodine: You channeled Jethro Bodine, hence you proved MY point completely; hence YOU missed MY point; ergo, YOU are a a MORON!

Now, let’s review the Facts, shall we?

You and “DAVE”, are:

a) Anti-American? Check!
b) Pro-Jihadi? Check?
c) Anti-Semitic? Check?
d) Delusional? Check?
e) Democrats? Check?
f) Nutbags? Check!
g) Traitors? Check!
h) Leftists? Check!
and as we’ve seen above, now…
i) Morons? Check!

NoDonkey: “DAVE”, from previous experience, “DAVE” (feel free to substitute any four letter swear word in there, it means the exact same thing); “DAVE” has every Anti-Semitic/Pro-Jihadi/Anti-American “source”, book, pamphlet, and screed, known to civilized man, in his bedroom. He has memorized them all, and will quote from them as facts, all day long, in order to pathetically attempt to buttress his Anti-Semitism, his Anti-Americanism, and his Pro-Jihadism.

The last time I CRUSHED him, over at CQ, he seriously used this exact source, as a “reliable” source/proof of Israeli War Crimes: a Leftist/Dovish Israeli newspaper, who quoted an anonymous, disaffected Israeli soldier, who was quoting his anonymous “Battalion Officer”, “DAVE” used that “source” as PROOF that Israel committed “war crimes” against the Lebanese people!

I.KID.YOU.NOT!

Of course, he misspells the name of his own source quoted above, some how rendering Shabtai as “Shabti” and he attempts to turn respected Israeli historian and journalist Shabtai Teveth into an Anti-Semitic source for his use, by quoting him out of context above, for the most negative connotation possible, of course!

That quote that “DAVE” uses of of Teveth’s from Ben-Gurion, was later amplified by Ben Gurion:

“If I was an Arab Leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it’s true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”

(Nahum Goldmann, translation by Steve Cox, The Jewish Paradox, p. 99)

For a single-minded Anti-Semitic Racist Bigot like “DAVE” this is like manna from Heaven, PROOF that the JOOOOS are evil and it is even admitted by one of their own.

If “DAVE” knew anything about his source “Teveth” at all; he put this into the correct context, that showed that Ben Gurion was extremely pragmatic, and that though he didn’t agree with the Palestinian views (as is obvious from the quote above); at least he understood them and the way thought; which made him extremely intelligent, actually.

Thus, no surprise, “DAVE” completely misses the point!

As for “Chimpy” and “DAVE”‘s favorite Anti-Semitic screed, by M&W, here is what world-renowed Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi/Anti-Semitic (and Jewish himself) Professor, Noam Chomsky had to say about M&W’s bogus book:

Noam Chomsky, professor of linguistics at MIT, asserts that he did not find the thesis of the paper very convincing. He said that Stephen Zunes has rightly pointed out that “there are far more powerful interests that have a stake in what happens in the Persian Gulf region than does AIPAC [or the Lobby generally], such as the oil companies, the arms industry and other special interests whose lobbying influence and campaign contributions far surpass that of the much-vaunted Zionist lobby and its allied donors to congressional races.” He finds that the authors “have a highly selective use of evidence (and much of the evidence is assertion)”, ignore historical “world affairs”, and blame the Lobby for issues that are not relevant.[39]

OUCH!

Sniff……Sniff……..Sniff?

What is THAT smell……..?

Why it is the smell of absolutely toasted Leftist!

“DAVE”, “Chimpy”, completely CRUSHED, once again, by Dale…

Applause……

Thank You…Thank You!

Take away the (2) nutters, and this was a good conversation.

“Even M&W have admitted that it’s a piece of biased, shoddy crap….”

Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 4:50 PM

“Link Please!! Otherwise you are full of BS!”

BS crickets chirping.

“MOVING GOALPOSTS”

Lets get back to where you completely screwed up and defend that instead of changing the goalposts like you did.

Your response to, dave742 on August 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, being shown what a maroon like you said, crickets chirping.

“Were I an Arab…I would rebel more vigorously, bitterly, and desparately against the immigration that will one day turn Palestine and all its Arab residents over to Jewish rule.”

The reference given for the quote is a book by Shabti Teveth titled “Ben-Gurion: The Burning Ground, 1886-1948″ on page 544. Get the book and see if the quote is there. Maybe you can show me they are liars.
Here’s another. They quote Bernard Lewis on page 58 as saying:

Whatever value Israel might have had as a strategic asset during the Cold War, that value obviously ended when the Cold War itself came to a close.”

The reference given is an article in Foreign Affairs titled “Rethinking the Middle East,” Vol. 71 No. 4 (Fall, 1992), page 110-11. I checked that one for you. It is there. Why don’t you tell me where they lied, or otherwise went wrong. I am sure you read the book since you are able to denounce it.

You completely missed the point idiot. So thanks for agreeing with me that you are a psychic, psycho, idiot that never made it past the 6th grade.

RE:

“takes a real genius to spell like that;”

Takes a real out of touch person to not know that is the phonetic way to spell graduation the way Jethro pronounces it. What a maroon. (Hint: think 3 Stooges, not the color.) But I doubt you will grasp that too.

Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Ah….okay…..sure….if you say so…..takes a real genius to spell like that; but okay, sure, if you say so!

All my comments directed at you “are unassailable, incontrovertible, Facts!
How can you possibly disagree with that? LOL

Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Yes, my point exactly. so thank you for finally agreeing with me, for what both you and “DAVE” are, in reality, which is: Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi/Anti-Semitic Delusional Democratic Traitor Leftist Nutbags.

Now that you have agreed with me on those FACTS; we can finally move forward.

You’re welcome, and thank you!

All my comments directed at you “are unassailable, incontrovertible, Facts!
How can you possibly disagree with that? LOL

Now that’s civilized society.

dave742 on August 21, 2008 at 12:29 PM:

What a worthless piece of crap you are. You’ve never known an Israeli in your life. And that “Jewish mother-in law” of yours story is so pathetic..
I’m actually being nice to you…

“idiot”: Ah, Nooooooooooooo, unless the let “idiots” into MENSA”

unless the let “idiots” into MENSA”

Like Jethro Bodine you only “done gradgeated the 6th grade”.

Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 6:15 PM

ah, Nooooooooooooooooo…but nice try to move the goalposts, change the subject, and deflect away from the FACT that you ARE: an Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi/Anti-Semitic Delusional Traitor Democratic Leftist Nutbag…

Nice try, …..again…..

Sigh…………………….

Psychic Psycho Idiot!

The DNC’s anti-Semitism

How many times can the DNC mention that Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) is a Jew? In their pre-emptive attack website
on every potential candidate for John McCain’s running mate, they
manage to work it into their……

Obviously a bold-faced lie; I’ve been reading your comments for several years, here and over at the old CQ’s; nope, I have you labelled correctly:

Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi, Anti-Semitic, Delusional, Democratic Traitor Leftist Nutbag, just like your buddy “DAVE”!

Those are unassailable, incontrovertible, Facts!

I’m sorry, and I know the truth hurts, but just admit it, and embrace the truth about yourself, it will set you free!

“idiot”: Ah, Nooooooooooooo, unless the let “idiots” into MENSA but again, nice try Leftist Nutbag, but once again, as always….a “short-round”…

I hope to see D in A post that 1,000 word meaningless run-on response. It’s more ammo to show just what a psycho he is.

RE:

“Nice try Democratic Traitor Nutbag; I’m not only a Registered Independent; but I’m also an avowed Atheist!”

I’m registered Independent also. So you must be a Pro-Jihadi/Anti-American too. But unlike you, I am not a cock sure Atheist that claims to know the absolute truth. There’s your problem idiot. There, I just used an apt label for you.

Chimpy on August 21, 2008 at 5:12 PM

and the fact that you say you detest this is an out and outright lie and fabrication, your Pro-Jihadi/Anti-American ilk, including “DAVE”; not only sympathize with these murderous Jihadi thugs, but you empower them and openly root for them to kill American Military personnel, and you give support and credence to their muderous cause and theoglogy…

“I don’t like thugs of any religious or political bent. That includes you!”

Nice try Democratic Traitor Nutbag; I’m not only a Registered Independent; but I’m also an avowed Atheist!

So, though I can, and do, 100% accurately label YOU; you can’t label me!