Byron York: Looks like it’s down to Lieberman and Pawlenty
posted at 9:14 pm on August 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I’ve been talking to more people about the veep thing, and the picture I get is this: McCain is sitting in front of a console with a switch with two positions: GAMBLE and PLAY IT SAFE. If he moves the switch to GAMBLE, he picks Lieberman…
Still, Romney is an unquantifiable here. I mentioned yesterday that if McCain were to pick Ridge, “it will be because he likes him personally and believes Ridge can win Pennsylvania.” Now, it’s not clear to me that McCain will make the choice based on whether a veep could carry a particular state, but if he did, I’ve been told, there is a feeling that Romney has a pretty good argument to make that choosing him would help quite a bit in Nevada and Colorado, with their significant Mormon populations.
A pro-choice Republican group is releasing a poll tomorrow showing that nearly 70 percent of party members don’t regard abortion as a litmus test for VP and only 1 in 10 say they’d be less likely to vote for McCain if he goes pro-choice with the pick. Um, given the fact that the race is within the margin of error, shouldn’t the headline there be that a potentially game-changing minority would be less likely to vote for him? Did I miss a national poll somewhere showing McCain with a 15-point lead over Obama, sufficient to justify kissing off a double-digit swath of the base? One of the things people don’t seem to understand about the Lieberman rumors is that it’s not just about abortion, which, after all, is an issue over which the president has little control, let alone the vice-president. It has to do with Maverick prioritizing his own mavericky leanings over the wishes of the base yet again, even though they’ve forgiven him virtually everything else he’s ever done to antagonize them — amnesty, CFR, the gang of 14 — in the interests of defeating Obama. If, between Jindal, Palin, Pawlenty, and Romney, he can’t find a talented VP in his own party who’s at least square on the one issue above all that matters to social cons, how can they trust him? They’re not asking for a major concession here. He should be able to make it.
Beyond that, is there some strong pro-Lieberman contingent out there among independents? I assume McCain thinks Joementum would appeal to Hillary supporters, which may be true or may not be (I haven’t seen any poll measuring the extent to which their constituencies overlap), but the issue isn’t whether Lieberman would bring in some Clintonites. It’s whether he’d bring in more in swing states than McCain would lose among the base in red states. The fact that McCain’s considering him makes me wonder if he doesn’t suspect his momentary parity with Obama is fleeting and that he needs, as York says, to do something dramatic to bust through the 45 percent ceiling he’s been stuck at. Which, in turn, makes me wonder if Pawlenty’s not the big winner from the Saddleback forum the other night: The going theory is that McCain’s home run there reassured social cons enough to let him get away with a pro-choice VP, but he may have done so well that he now thinks he can bust 45 percent without any extra help from the veep (especially with the debates coming up), which allows a safe choice instead of the gamble.
Meanwhile, The One has reportedly been wrestling with a gamble/play it safe scenario himself. Stephanopoulos thinks the pick could be announced … on Friday night?
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No Boring White Guys!
jgapinoy on August 21, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Pawlenty WOULD probably help out with Minnesota, but I’m still holding out for the best choice he could make (and recent polls pan this out as well)…Mitt for VP!
davenp35 on August 21, 2008 at 9:18 PM
SARAH PALIN!
Troika37 on August 21, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Pawlenty! I like him, and don’t find him boring.
If it’s gonna be pro-choice, it has to be Rudy.
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Alas, it appears almost inevitable at this point.
aero on August 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Not gonna vote for a pro abortionist. Not gonna do it. Wouldn’t be prudent.
rockdalian on August 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Agreed.
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Pawlenty cannot flip MN but Romney can flip MI.
EJDolbow on August 21, 2008 at 9:21 PM
It’s the economy, stupid = ROMNEY
Drill Here, Drill Now = PALIN
Joe is such a loser. If he picks Joe, he deserves to lose.
stenwin77 on August 21, 2008 at 9:21 PM
How many votes will playing it safe get him?
Wait for it…
Pawlenty!
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM
But the average voter will.
BO will get millions of votes just because he’s not an old White guy.
Let’s cut into that with the VP pick.
jgapinoy on August 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM
And the pro-lifers need to look in the mirror to find out who deserves the blame if McCain picks Lieberman. Way, way too many of them have said loud and long that they hate McCain and won’t vote for him no matter what he does.
Therefore he may believe he’s gotta get some democrats to win. I don’t agree (and I’m pro-choice) but I can see where he would get the idea.
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I don’t want him as VP but Joe Lieberman is anything but a loser.
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I’m hoping Bobby Jindal. I’ve seen him interviewed by the likes of Stephanopoulis and Jindal was like a machine gun.
Marcus on August 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I GOT A NEW NAME WHICH WOULD HELP IN VA AND THE BASE:
OLLIE NORTH
reliapundit on August 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
jgapinoy on August 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Pawlenty isn’t old. And let’s leave the identity politics to the democrats. It’s hard to oppose affirmative action on principle and then bow to its dictates.
I’m a woman, BTW.
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 9:24 PM
This is what I don’t get about the Lieberman choice. I don’t see him having some massive swath of people that are going to follow him and vote Republican; and you’re not going to tell me that the Democrats aren’t going to make hay out of the fact that McCain couldn’t find a single person in his own damn party who could do the job. It would be so easy to play this story back to McCain years of taking potshots at the Bush administration: ‘Knowing his own party to be corrupt and intellectually bankrupt, John McCain chose to step across the aisle to where good ideas and public service still rule and choose Joe Lieberman to be his running mate. Are the Republicans able to face the fact their own candidates find nothing redeeming or worthwhile in their own ideology?’ If I was a lefty writer, I’d have that ready to go to print in a heartbeat. He’s not just giving the base the finger again, he’s handing our opponents a club to beat us over the head with well past this election.
austinnelly on August 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM
I’m shooting for Palin or Pawlenty. As much as I like Lieberman (I’m one of those Independents you hear so often about) I think it’s a bad move strategically to pick him. Better safe than sorry.
DanStark on August 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Lieberman didn’t help Gore. He’s charismatically challenged. He’s not going to bring any military hawks who aren’t already in McCain’s camp. Beyond their friendship and the novelty factor, I don’t see positives that outweigh the negatives.
If MCain was going to go with a pro-choice Veep, Rudy would probably bring more to the ticket.
dedalus on August 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Palin
Palin Palin Palin Palin Palin Palin Palin Palin
For the love of God why isn’t her name on the shortlist?
Purple Fury on August 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Gee, Lieberman will certainly drag in the voters–especially the youth vote. No matter how pitiful the other candidate, the GOP can manage to do itself in.
DrMagnolias on August 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Know what else is not playing it safe? This constant tease that he is considering a democrat as his running mate. What the hell is he and others thinking? My dislike for him has now approached intense loathing.
Blake on August 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Joe is my favorite Democrat, OK he’s the only one I can stand. That said, if McCain picks Joe , He does deserve to lose
abinitioadinfinitum on August 21, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Ehh…Rudy is great and all, but he comes with WAY too much baggage .
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Geesh, McCain can’t even consider Palin?
Romney is the best out of the three mentioned by Byron. Not much excitement here.
jencab on August 21, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I’m still hoping it’s Hillary :)
terryannonline on August 21, 2008 at 9:32 PM
The youth vote will prove ilusory yet again as the bloom is off the rose for the Obamessiah. And, at least in presidential politics, that other party has a much worse track record of losing elections. But I still agree, McCain has no need to shake things up at this point and Liebs would not be a good choice.
phronesis on August 21, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Ollie North..
reliapundit on Aug 21,2008 at 9:23PM.
reliapundit:The left would have a cat-in-iption fit!!haha.
Besides,the Left would bring up Ollies home
secruity flap,who paid for it crap!!
canopfor on August 21, 2008 at 9:35 PM
The first reaction is NO WAY! Then, as you think about it, it would definitely be a sure winner.
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Don’t count out someone not being mentioned:
Senator Richard Burr (NC)
Gov. Mark Sanford (SC)
Senator Kaye Bailey Hutchison (TX)
*gulp* Mike Huckabee
SouthernGent on August 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I agree on Rudy. There are probably more skeletons for the media to find and McCain doesn’t need a Bernie Kerik style news frenzy while he is trying to focus the country on Obama’s shortcomings. Still, potentially Rudy could bring a couple of states. I don’t think Lieberman puts even CT in play.
dedalus on August 21, 2008 at 9:37 PM
McCain wants a Republican or independent so liberal that we’ll do everything possible to keep him in office?
McCain is now so confident that a personal agenda is back to being the prime motivator?
Doesn’t john realize how important the future is to Conservatives?
Speakup on August 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Like her (from my home state) but she is as liberal as McCain on illegal immigration.
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:39 PM
groan. but correct.
Pawlenty is a good choice. He’s smart and young enough to be president after McCain. I still think Sanford would be the gold pick, but I’m convinced he doesn’t want the job.
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Agreed on Lieberman regarding CT. I think Lieberman should announce he would serve as Secretary of Defense or State in a McCain admin. Of course that would essentially mean he’s out of his committee chair effective immediately. I think Lieberman would jump at the chance–really, with the chances of an even bigger Democrat lead in the Senate after this election, Lieberman has nothing to lose.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Saying #uck you to conservatives has worked out well for McCain so far, so why would he want to switch to a different tactic now?
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM
I love Palin, but she’s doesn’t have the national political chops she needs. Not yet. She’ll be eaten alive by the national press. For whatever reason, Pawlenty’s just much better prepared than Palin. You may think he’s boring, but he’s smart as a whip too. People will love that he does his homework, and you’ll have a hard time bringing up a national policy subject that he doesn’t know about already. I’m sure he’s been studying military affairs and foreign diplomacy in his spare time too, just in case.
RBMN on August 21, 2008 at 9:43 PM
I am pro-choice but Lieberman is almost the worst choice. A Democrat who is also wrong about the war. OK, so he doesn’t think that a woman should sign papers requiring her to raise an extra kid if need be several times a week. But that’s a qualification for the status of “minimally sane”, not “qualified to be the VP”.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Hmmmm…Burr. That would at least get him out of the Senate, where he seems incapable of making the right decision (*cough*shamnesty*cough*) without being thoroughly pounded by his constituency. But then it would put him closer to the bigger job, he wouldn’t be able to make the right decision without pounding, in. Tough call.
(Obviously…he’s not my favorite guy since I’ve had to email his a$$ two or three times because he was siding with the wrong side.)
tickleddragon on August 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I wouldn’t want Lieberman as VP, but I honestly would not lose a lot of sleep over it. As VP, Lieberman would not set policy.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I find all this speculation over running mates rather amusing. I recall a reporter at the 1976 Democratic Convention thinking he may have gotten the scoop on who Jimmy Carter would pick. He had asked a member of Carter’s staff if the pick’s last name began with an M and ended with an E. When the guy said yes, the reporter thought, “I’ve got it! It’s Muskie!” But then he thought, “So does Mondale.”
backwoods conservative on August 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Actually Lieberman is correct on the war.
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM
McCain should pick G. Harlan Reynolds
ninjapirate on August 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I think Sen McCain is going to pick a VP candidate who can lead the party in the next election cycle…I’m not sure Pawlenty’s momma knows he’s playing politics so I don’t think he’s the guy…Palin, Jindal, are not ready yet and Leabs ran as Gore’s VP already. Mitt’s looking pretty strong in this field…
Nozzle on August 21, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I know a lot of Republicans around here who like Tom Ridge, I don’t think they really think of him as a pro choice liberal. In fact they think he is a conservative. I really doubt that McCain will pick Lieberman. I think it would be a bad idea myself.
Pawlenty is an evangelical and comes from a midwestern state. He might not be a bad choice. Fred Thompson would not be a bad idea, but he is another old white guy.
I think Palin has a lot going on Alaska right now, this might be a good time to bring her on.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 9:48 PM
If that’s true then the “going theory” must be based on the premise that “social cons” are foxtrot sierra.
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Lieberman wouldn’t even be a member of the same caucus as McCain in the Senate, but chose to caucus with Dems. But he would join a McCain administration and presumably articulate and advance its policies on abortion, affirmative action, taxes, drilling, etc.?
Of course, Lieberman was a critic of Hollywood’s trashy movies and Tv until he became Gore’s running mate. Then he shut up about it, after being told how much money came out of Hollywood for Dems. As much of an opportunistic flip-flopper as Mitt.
Could Lieberman even be trusted not to leak averything that goes on in the WH to the Dems?
Wethal on August 21, 2008 at 9:49 PM
MB4:
And conversely, how has saying #uck you to McCain worked out for the right?
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 9:49 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Good lord, I’m sick of hearing about this. I’m sick of the “mavericky-ness”. It’s so unnecessary to be a maverick in picking a VP. Pick a Republican for crying out loud and one that people like! (ahem, Palin!)
What if Lieberman were to have to break a tie-vote in the Senate? Which side would he vote with?
CP on August 21, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Ahh, the liberal speaks! Since everyone on this board who has seen your previous posts will know you to be an ultra liberal, this “suggestion” of yours must mean you are afraid of Lieberman as VP and are using reverse psychology. So we should want McCain.
But wait–you would know we’d see that reverse psychology game and so you are just using reverse reverse psychology and really want McCain to pick Lieberman.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 9:50 PM
There are a whole lot of REPUBLICANS whom Juan could chose who would not set policy either. Why he no choice one of them then, Senor?
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Not with the investigation of the state trooper firing ( no mtter how unfounded. Imagine the Dem’s ads.
McCain needs to choose soemone with as little baggage as possible. Can’t really go after Rezko and Ayres then.
Wethal on August 21, 2008 at 9:51 PM
my guess is….
…this is all a SMOKESCREEN!!!!
McCain floats the idea of Liebs or Ridge, only to introduce a Romney-Palin-Jindal that fires up the base.
battleoflepanto1571 on August 21, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I haven’t heard that. Please provide documentation, senorita.
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 9:53 PM
“minimally sane” “Qualified”
freevillage on Aug 21,2008 at 9:45PM.
freevillage: Going by your logic,Cynthia McKinney would
be Vice President qualified,me thinks!!!
canopfor on August 21, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Actually what I have heard from some “conservatives”, and they know who they are, well maybe they don’t, is in essence, “Please Mr. McCain, can you kick me in the teeth again?”
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I’m going to vote for McCain no matter who he chooses. His choice won’t be made until after there’s been analysis of the Obama pick. I think he wants Lieberman or Romney. Of those two, he probably personally prefers Lieberman, but is willing to concede to prolifers if they will get over their “he’s a Mormon” complaints. There is room someplace for either/both of them in a McCain administration.
I do think it would be amusing for McCain to do something like announce for Palin or Jindal (Jindal ~ sigh ~ it won’t happen because he’s being groomed for 2012) tomorrow morning. It would take the oomph right out of Obama’s announcement and Dems would have to divide their time over the next week between the excitement over a Palin pick which would dilute the excitement of their own convention.
Connie on August 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Hi Mb4.
I think she is implying that all the conservatives, including talk radio, who have been beating up on McCain have had little impact on his decisions and he is still running a strong campaign without their support.
carbon_footprint on August 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I wrote and called Burr’s office several times from Raleigh. I didn’t get much of a response from his office about Shamnesty other than they had gotten “a lot of calls”. However, Elizabeth Dole’s office was quick to assure me she would do the right thing and she did (Burr did as well, but I think he pulled kicking and screaming).
SouthernGent on August 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Actually,
MB4 on Aug 21,2008 at 9:55PM.
MB4:Will you vote McCain!:)
canopfor on August 21, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Lieberman is an Independent now and not a Democrat, and he is fairly conservative on a lot of issues. He is also very religious. My guess is that is why he did not like those Hollywood movies. I remember when he went after Clinton during the Monica thing and Democrats were put out with him for not being more supportive of Bill.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Worded poorly the first time.
Connie on August 21, 2008 at 9:59 PM
True, but then he sold out his conservatism to be Gore’s VP.
Wethal on August 21, 2008 at 10:00 PM
MB4:
Kick them in the teeth? Don’t you think that is a little meolodramatic. The man has a conservative rating of about 82%, that is not 100%, but it is not a kick in the teeth either.
I think we should wait and see who he picks before we criticize the choice.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 10:00 PM
And you’re basing that on what exactly? Depending on which poll you use, Obama’s slim lead in either state is about the same.
Hollowpoint on August 21, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Porque los Mexicanos nunca aceptarían fronteras cerradas y necesitan empleo, por supuesto.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Oh…and I still think Romney is the best choice McCain could pick, but if he’s not on the short list, what can you do? Pawlenty is almost as good. Biggest problem for Pawlenty is that he has such a short time to introduce himself to the nation.
RBMN on August 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Wethal:
That was in 2000, back then Gore was not considered to be all that liberal himself. One of the reasons Bill picked him was the national security angle, Gore was thought to be stronger on that.
Personally, I think Gore has lost his mind since then.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Yeah, that’s the same response I got from both. Burr has been quite a disappointment…but compared to a David Price, Burr can at least be pummelled into submission. :)
tickleddragon on August 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM
There is no doubt that Lieberman would be strong on national defense. That was Peter King’s point this afternoon when he made the case for him.
Connie on August 21, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Can’t McCain find someone in the private sector? And let’s back away from the “boring white guy” thing. It’s only a few steps removed from the mindset that leads to the very kind of identity politics that is currently tearing up the Dems. from the inside out.
If that is what McCain’s people (and perhaps McCain, himself) thinks, then he’s mistaking his own appeal with the utter reprehensible idea of an Obama administration facing off against the various national security threats that are mounting daily. The dog shouldn’t think he’s great because he stands much taller than a mouse. Obama is a joke, but McCain isn’t a sweet song. McCain’s performance in the debate wasn’t extraordinary, it was simply what was expected. I was amazed at the pure jovial nature of various conservative pundits (and myself) over the idea that our nominee believes that life begins at conception; or that our nominee actually thinks that everyone in America should have the opportunity to be rich and that we shouldn’t have a punitive tax policy. But because the bar has been lowered so far, I am desperate to find a reason to vote for the guy and not simply against Obama. After the debate, McCain gave me those reasons; boiler plate though they were, they were nevertheless there. My two cents: don’t get cocky McCain. Make this choice carefully with the idea that your candidacy hangs on it.
Weight of Glory on August 21, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Living in a neighboring state, can’t say I’ve heard much out of Pawlenty. He would be a nobody-heard-of-him kind of VP, which usually isn’t a bad thing per se. What I’ve heard of Palin, though, I think she’d be a good choice.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 10:04 PM
The people McCain really has to listen to (and probably has) are the 50 state chairmen who are in charge of GOTV and fundraising for the RNC, which can still raise funds, even though McCain is taking public financing.
An enthustiatic base contributes. Disaffected Dems and independents, not much. “Open your wallets and vote for us! The Dems are worse!” worked so well for the GOP in 2006, didn’t it. MCCain can’t rely on the Obama bogeyman to energize the GOP.
Obama may have his children’s crusade of true believers out on election day. The RNC needs plenty of volunteer ground troops. Stand in the rain outside a polling place on election day for Joe Lieberman?
Wethal on August 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM
carbon:
Yes, and I am also saying that they have said time and again that they won’t support him, so why should he worry about them? After all, unless they are just being a bunch of drama queens they are already a lost cause.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Did somebody forget to press 1?
backwoods conservative on August 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM
My “pet theory” is that McCain is “floating” really bad VP possibilities so that if he just chooses a bad VP running mate it will seem good by comparison.
Kind of like if your boss “floated” the rumor of everyone getting a 25% pay cut, then “just” cuts you pay by 10%, you will think that he is great and feel like you just got a raise.
Are you going to fall for it suckas? Well, are you?
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM
You know what I want. Every time I see Joe Lieberman on the Sunday morning talk shows he’s only being asked questions on foreign policy. I want an entire 6 minutes of him just being asked about economic/social issues, and see how much he’s able to spin the topic.
chip91 on August 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Lieberman is in favor of partial-birth abortions, and has voted that way. That’s not “moderate.” He paints himself as “religious,” and while it’s true that Judaism has no absolute fixed position on abortion, it certainly doesn’t condone abortion for purposes of birth control. I find his typical liberal position to be just that, his religious affectations notwithstanding.
One voice out of 50 is plenty for him. Even if he’s not McCain’s VP, he’ll have McCain’s ear, either formally or informally. That’s enough.
JiangxiDad on August 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Great, just great…. a liberal in everything except defense and a Governor who buys into the global warming hoax and is the epitome of RINO…… you all better hope this is soooooo wrong.
MNDavenotPC on August 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Of candidates of the Boring White Guy mold, Pawlenty is my favorite.
It's Vintage, Duh on August 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Haha :)
Yeah. I’m a bit tired of when someone has less than the “right” position on immigration they have their motives impugned as being pro-Mexican . That was my snarky reply.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Can you make a case for him here (briefly)? I really don’t know that much about him.
Connie on August 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Or it just steals a little of the news cycle from Obama. Towards the end of the Dem primary, there was almost nothing of McCain’s activities in the news.
It is so helpful of the Dems to schedule their conventions before the GOP. The GOP gets to size up the VP, the convention, and adjust if they choose.
Wethal on August 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Let’s see…
a VP named Burr.
A recent shooting-by-VP incident.
If my last name were Hamilton, I’d be sweating something FIERCE right now.
sulla on August 21, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Connie:
He’s my governor…. nice guy but no conservative by a long shot. Jason Lewis and I agree on that.
MNDavenotPC on August 21, 2008 at 10:12 PM
If you didn’t think Tony Snow was boring, you probably won’t be bored by Pawlenty either. Smart is not boring.
RBMN on August 21, 2008 at 10:13 PM
No, porque los empresarios de plantaciones sobornos hacer campana y quiere que el mas cercano que puedan llegar a siervos, por supuesto.
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 10:14 PM
I understand. I get exasperated with people who try to attach racist motives to people who are opposed to illegal immigration.
backwoods conservative on August 21, 2008 at 10:14 PM
So what has he run on/achieved/supported? I too am curious what sort of Governor he’s been.
BryanS on August 21, 2008 at 10:14 PM
If McCain actually waits until the 29th to release the name of the VP, that means it will be a week before we know. So, maybe there really is a lot of misdirection going on here.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 10:14 PM
No comprende….. I only speak English
MNDavenotPC on August 21, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I googled some stuff on Pawlenty and was surprised to find out that he was considered a conservative Evangelical. That did not seem to fit with what I read about him on some sites. I have seen and heard him speak and he seems very well informed and quick.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM
They say that when you sleep with someone, you sleep with everyone that person has slept with. Do you really want to vote for someone who would “sleep with” someone whom Al Gore has “slept with”?
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I am hearing that it could be Biden from a relative’s cryptic message tonight. He would know.
And it looks like Barry has made his stupendous choice…
benrand on August 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Well,are you?
MB4 on Aug 21,2008 at 10:05PM.
MB4: MB,are you going to vote for McCain,well,are you?:)
canopfor on August 21, 2008 at 10:18 PM
MB4:
Ronald Reagan used to be a Democrat.
Suddenly I feel so dirty.
Terrye on August 21, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Well, he has fought hard for no increase in taxes, but he is sneaky on fees and surcharges…. get my drift?….. he communicates well, and is a tougher fighter than you might think, but he is NOT a conservative of the mold I would support. The candidates that MN has historically spawned for the national level have been milquetoast from the get go…. witness Al Franken.
MNDavenotPC on August 21, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Unless you are pretty old you better get with the program then as at the rate we are going in a generation English will be verboten in Norte America.
MB4 on August 21, 2008 at 10:19 PM
I know he has a masters degree in political science, and he has passion, and Rush likes him, but Jason Lewis’ mouth is about five times as big as his brain. Lewis hasn’t had a new idea in ten years, and I know that because I listened back then, and I listen know. Mostly I agree with Lewis, but he’s trapped in his own little world, that never changes.
RBMN on August 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM
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