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posted at 10:40 pm on August 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“My husband said he was going to see his family,” she said. “And the Russians said again, ‘Are you going to the American side?’”
“So the Russians view you as the American side, even though there are no Americans here.”
“Yes,” she said. “Because our way is for democracy.”
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i have never been so
embarassedprouder of my country
custer on August 20, 2008 at 10:44 PM
amen custer
JeffreyLloyd on August 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM
There are no Americans in Georgia? :) I think Allah is now going North Korea on us. Propaganda can now even be insane, not just “false”.
Anyone who says in the real life “because our way is for democracy” is a brainwashed idiot.
freevillage on August 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Or perhaps they just feel very strongly about it because they being forced to relive a repressive past. Poor “idiots”, not smart enough to realize the wonders of pseudo-communism.
Bishop on August 20, 2008 at 10:50 PM
McCain was wrong.
We are not all Georgians.
All Georgians are Republicans.
sulla on August 20, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Weight of Glory on August 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I thought we were not going to abandon them?
Starlink on August 20, 2008 at 10:53 PM
That’s Michael Totten, not Allah.
docob on August 20, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Of course that’s not what was claimed.
There are no Americans in that particular location/town.
Sorry, your excuses for this action by Russia are getting hard to follow.
SteveMG on August 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM
And that was from the reporter Michael Totten, not AP.
SteveMG on August 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM
First of all, no one’s claiming there are no Americans in Georgia. Second of all, those are Michael Totten’s words — not Allahs. Totten is on the ground there.
amerpundit on August 20, 2008 at 10:57 PM
It’s like the lefties I have emailing me to say the upside down flag on the DNC’s cards isn’t a flag at all. They know that 2+2=4, but insist it equals 5.
amerpundit on August 20, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I stand corrected. I think Michael Totten did mean no Americans in Georgia not just that area.
I’m sure he meant no Americans of consequence that pose any threat to Russia.
SteveMG on August 20, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Well, I’m not sure where on the political spectrum freevillage is.
But his comments on US-Russian relations mystify me.
The US, according to him, “never helped Russia” following the collapse of communism and never acted as a “friend” toward the country.
My goodness, the US could have raped the country following the collapse of the communists. Just went and bought everything on fire sale prices (or just bribed officials to hand it over).
But we did none of that.
So, I’m not sure where he’s coming from.
SteveMG on August 20, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I doubt it. He’d know there are American relief flights, American humvees, American diplomats, and American journalists in the country. In fact, he acknowledges at his own site that he has American traveling companions in Georgia.
amerpundit on August 20, 2008 at 11:04 PM
If only The One could just spend five lousy minutes with Putin, we wouldn’t have this problem!
Star20 on August 20, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Were you ever in an X-soviet state? I was in Georgia before their new president took over and cleaned house. It has made a serious turnaround economically since then.
These people realy do believe in freedom because they never had it like you and me. People like you seem to take it for granted, therefor cannot understand why so many other countries risk so much just to get a taste of it.
If anyone is attempting brainwashing it is the gov’ts censoring and controlling the media LIKE Russia and Venezuela. Democracy and freedom are not brainwashing. Freedom is a natural desire of all living things of wanting to live and prosper without interference or restrictions.
El Guapo on August 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Yes, I agree. As I added, I think he meant no Americans of consequence that pose any military/security threat to Russia.
The threat to Moscow from Tbilisi is indeed one of independence and democracy. Moscow wants these countries Finlandized if not in actual Russia control.
If they’re democracies and are open and have independent institutions, Putin’s control of the country is threatened.
Let’s face it: he’s a fascist.
SteveMG on August 20, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Ironically, russian media spends a lot of time comparing the georgian president to hitler.
lorien1973 on August 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM
On the contrary, I believe he recently moved from Russia. Which explains the extensive apologia.
amerpundit on August 20, 2008 at 11:11 PM
More specifically, it splits its time: sometimes he’s a buffoon – they’ll show him chewing on his tie or something else dumb. Other times he’s hitler.
lorien1973 on August 20, 2008 at 11:11 PM
God Bless America Forever.
Goodnight.
Travis1 on August 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Now thats funny. most people who are successful in coming here from a communist state are more in favor of conservatism and fredom. (i would hope) that would be like a Cuban evading death by drowning just to come here for a better job and life, and finding it, but then protesting agaist our free states and the freedom that gave him his new job and more pay than he has ever seen before. Wait that just defined George Soros. well, okay HE IS brainwashed!
the ones who still advocate marxism amd communism more often than not end up having “ties” to that country still.
El Guapo on August 20, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Fleeing Russian brutality,Georgians look to the West
for Support!
Every school in Tbilisis is jammed!
Civilians who fled aerial bombardment and shootings by
Russian Military,or massacres,looting and arson by irreg-
ular Cossack Paramilitary units!
Sounds like Ethnic Cleansing(a mini holocost)to me!
They are an ally,they helped in Iraq!
President Bush;”Are you with us,or against us”
I don’t know the answer,but Georgia cannot be allowed
to be annihilted,much like Israels position,with enemys
all around!
With Russia now backing Syria,the question is becoming
how much pushing will Putin be allowed to get away with!
Putin is now testing NATO,THE WEST and the FREE LEADER
of the WORLD,AMERICA!
And IRAN is WATCHING and WAITING to SEE what the WEST
will DO,or won’t DO!!!
canopfor on August 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Russia sucks.
eski502 on August 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Revisionist history is a powerful thing when your country does not allow any corrections or oversight from other media. “Propaganda”. Bush is Hitler too, remember? Even though it was the Arab leaders who were siding with Hitler because of a common cause. Yet we still have idiots calling Bush, “Hitler”.
It must really suck being mad and ignorant all the time. Knowledge is bliss. Ignorance = control. That is how totalitarianism works.
El Guapo on August 20, 2008 at 11:20 PM
“Anyone who says in the real life “because our way is for democracy” is a brainwashed idiot.”
American Trust fund baby speaks!!
mylegsareswollen on August 20, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Peopel forget why NATO was formed in the first place. It was because Russia (USSR), a member of the newly formed UN, refused to let go of the land it was occupying after invading East Europe to destroy the Nazis. Nato was formed without Russia to “counter” this, thus the beginning of the Cold War.
El Guapo on August 20, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Ever notice that Russia is still NOT a member of NATO? This is a good reason why. They are always trying to expand by taking over other coutries. Dee de-deeee!!
El Guapo on August 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I can’t stand McCain but it’s like the whole world is conspiring to make me vote for him.
/only a little bit facetious
Laura on August 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Pity is indignant.
Nah, Laura, it’s just Russia, but that’s enough for me.
Entelechy on August 20, 2008 at 11:39 PM
We are so blessed to live in America.
These people’s lives will be determined by our actions. Nor NATO. Not the french. Not the UN. (Most)Republicans can see this and understand what is at stake not only for these human beings, but what happens after this, the next target of Russia’s. (A few)Democrats also see this, but a lot more don’t. People like Pat Buchanan, don’t. Lord help us and Lord help these people if countries like the US don’t try to help as many people around the world when we can. Lord have mercy on the people who have read this, who know better and would ‘leave them to their destiny’ as they democrats who were opposed to keeping the troops in Iraq, wanting them to fall victim to the thug with the biggest army who wanted to slaughter them all.
I wish I could say that all Americans would want this woman and others not to be bullied, molested or killed by a force or government that wishes them dead. And in this case, Russia. It’s amazing how far we’ve come from the end of WW2 till today.
wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 11:39 PM
If the democrats fielded normal politicians, then I would be very happy to see the presidency leap-frog from D to R.
It’s like it’s all a game to them now. There are so many examples, but I like this particular one. Go to Michelle Malkin’s site and search “Why I can’t trust the Democrats on, well, anything”. It’s a quick but enlightening example. And this is my opinion on all democrats, until I am proven otherwise. So far, the two that I do trust is Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman. I’m sure there are others. I sure don’t trust Pelosi and Reid.
wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Are the Republicans willing to raise taxes to pay for yet another pointless war, wise?
Of course they aren’t.
alphie on August 20, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Cute and typical that you show up in threads like this, being mocking and trollish while you are completely absent in posts where Russia makes threats against Poland, Ukraine, and this nation. Easy to snipe when you still manage to have minor reason to scoff at pro-Western sentiment, but when those fly out the window due to your home country acting like the bunch of imperialist conquering barbarians they’ve always been, you’re nowhere to be found.
Make excuses for your Soviet berserker pals all you like, bud. They’re going to go too far, and then they’re going to be reminded why they fell 17 years ago.
Anyway, Michael Totten never fails to disappoint. I don’t know of any blogger more learned about Eastern Europe, and he writes like a storybook. Takes a lot of guts going to Tbilisi in the middle of this, and I’m very glad he’s come back with some truth about the attitudes and situations over there. Hell, I’d say future presidential candidates should keep him in mind for foreign policy positions.
Isn’t it odd how a nation who, for three quarters of a century, railed against the individual trying to acquire things for themselves, is doing exactly what it hated its citizens for trying to do?
MadisonConservative on August 20, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Why do you come here?
WisCon on August 20, 2008 at 11:50 PM
There are two Americas, for sure.
Weasels are indignant, again.
Entelechy on August 20, 2008 at 11:50 PM
I’m sure by “this action” you mean the latest developments. Please quote me saying a single word in support of it or tell me why you have decided to lie again.
freevillage on August 20, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Attention. When you respond to him, you give him what he wants. Treat him like the fly he is.
MadisonConservative on August 20, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Didn’t read any further, sorry. If this is another attempt at psychological analysis by an illiterate moron, I’m not interested. Otherwise, rewrite your message so that it would be clear from the very beginning it has a non-trivial point.
freevillage on August 20, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Hey Alphie, Ernest Borgnine called. He said to tell you that you need to do it physically, not mentally, if you want to live a longer life.
Patrick S on August 20, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Breaking Olympic Awesomeness Just Happened:
After the women’s beach volleyball team beat China for the Gold, May-Treanor and Walsh ran around the court waving American flags. Not content at being patriotic enough, during their interview with NBC, Kerri Walsh grabbed the microphone and said, “Mr. President, thank you for being an inspiration to us, and doing what you do. Thank you so much.”
AWESOME. It felt great to be American.
Vincenzo on August 20, 2008 at 11:57 PM
OK. Cite the numbers. Georgia 2003 and now.
freevillage on August 20, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Will the person who is sitting in on our National Security breifings with the President of the United States please brake protocol and let the rest of the Blog and the world tell us ALL our secrets so everyone can second guess them………………?
Seven Percent Solution on August 20, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Our soldiers, and those of allies we train, fight at night nearly as effectively as during the day. Russians… not so much.
Ghosts will soon be about when the lights go out in Georgia, and perhaps they already are. Remember who you are hearing the news from, and don’t assume for a moment that it is the truth. You will know the truth in a few years, but not now.
drunyan8315 on August 20, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I know that we weren’t 100% behind going to war, but we did go. millions of Americans volunteered, women went to factories to build machinery and everything was rationed and people bought war bonds and planted victory gardens.
And now, after viewing the images if Iraqi’s with purple fingers after having voted, the left replies, “so what, they are occupied by us.” The democrats themsleves recognized the danger of Saddam while Clinton was president, but when Bush actually did something about Saddam, they all (except one, it would seem) changed their tune. And most follow the line that Bush lied. This is so bizarre that it borders on insanity.
And today, in Georgia, we have people from a sovereign nation who are threatened with ethnic cleansing and murder by Russia – and the UN, NATO, and just about the entire democrat party it would seem, replying with “Meh.” It really is maddening.
wise_man on August 21, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I think you have accidentally left out cannibalism.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM
CIA world fact book:
I’m sure that alone was enough to drive the bear crazy. Can’t have democracy actually prospering, and corruption being dealt with, so close to home.
TexasDan on August 21, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Anyone see the Women’s Beach Volleyball championship game between the US and China? The American team of Misty May-Treanor and Kerri Walsh won the gold and in the post-game interview had a special thanks for President Bush for his “inspiration”.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/08/images/20080809_d-0275-2-515h.html
I would like to add: FU Andrew Sullivan.
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/08/i-wasnt-exactly-sure-what-to-say-to-you.html
gumble on August 21, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Not my problem. That same childish attitude of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming is the same one that keeps you out of threads where actual imperialistic warmongering conquering threats are made against Georgia, Poland, and Ukraine. I expect very little from you.
MadisonConservative on August 21, 2008 at 12:20 AM
wise_man
Your comments are top-drawer tonight.
RushBaby on August 21, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Awesome!
Hening on August 21, 2008 at 12:23 AM
…by the way, if I’m illiterate, how would I be able to read your response or write mine?
MadisonConservative on August 21, 2008 at 12:25 AM
This is an ethnic conflict with all that implies.
Why isn’t anybody saying it out loud?
Speakup on August 21, 2008 at 12:25 AM
It’s on a matter like this that a POS like freevillage and another POS like alphie show use Who They Are
This isn’t some inside politics snarking: The Russians murdered several thousand civilians while looting a country and trying to destroy a democracy. Those two garbage bags trolling on this site see it as just another chance to be a++holes while insulting conservative adults.
You two douches don’t understand the value of liberty and democracy, so you toss out six-grade remarks and pretend to be even stupider than you actually are.
The irony will be lost on you both, but if a retro-commie govt like Putin’s was in control here, you’d would be among the first to be shot and dumped in a ditch
Snark on, douche-bags; tolerating you is the Price of Liberty.
Janos Hunyadi on August 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Yargh, slap away me hardy.
Hening on August 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM
I agree with your larger point, but I think this might be the opposite of what you meant to say…
Jim Treacher on August 21, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Janos,
How America would pay for a war with Russia is kinda important.
Then there’s the question of what we’d do if we lost that war…the Russians aren’t a bunch of goatherders.
alphie on August 21, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Check out your history bub. No one is propagandizing when they accuse the Russians of rape, murder, theft, and wanton destruction. That is standard tactics for these barbarians.
thekingtut on August 21, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Yeah…it’s late, and I’m tired.
Never disappoints was what I meant to say.
MadisonConservative on August 21, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Really. Have you ever been faced with an enemy in your front yard? Have you ever lived in a place where the stability of day to day life is suddenly in jeopardy? Have you ever even been to Georgia or Azerbijan to see what life is like there?
Let me answer that for you. No you haven’t. You just read the Times, and watch network news and wonder why we all just can’t get along. Kum-Ba-Fuckin-Ya.
Come out of mommy’s basement for awhile. There are folks in the world who have lived real oppression and fear. They don’t like it, and it isn’t anything remotely like what your feeble imagination can dredge up.
Democracy is a big freakin deal to those who are in danger of losing it. It’s an even bigger deal to those who didn’t have it, now have it, and are in danger of losing it again.
It’s worth fighting for. Someday you peacniks will realize that.
BacaDog on August 21, 2008 at 12:43 AM
LOL poor Tim Kaine.
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 12:43 AM
It’s not clear who you’re trying to insult with that remark, so I’ll just chalk it up to your usual M.O. (indiscriminate taunting). One thing is pretty clear in the aftermath of Russia’s illegal attack and occupation of Georgia. Their “troops” are in it for booze, rape, and loot. These are not exactly the hallmarks of well-disciplined troops.
RushBaby on August 21, 2008 at 12:45 AM
What happened to:
Alfie; ” I’m a Reagan Republican “.
Johan Klaus on August 21, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Too bad republicans won’t go “Full Barry” and take illegal donations from overseas. I would expect we’d see an awful lot of cash come in from Poland and Finland. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Ukraine citizens are still struggling more financially so probably couldn’t spare as much.
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Another slap at the U.S. military?
Johan Klaus on August 21, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Well said. Look at the list historically. Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Latvia, Bulgaria, Moldova, Azerbijan.
Folks like Alphie and Freevillage are all about love and peace. That ain’t the real world.
You’re right. Part of the price of freedom is tolerating assholes who don’t understand what it means, the sacrifice made to get it, and what it takes to keep it.
BacaDog on August 21, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Yes. The little scrap of excrement likes to say that the US military hasn’t gone up against anyone who would fight in 60+ years. Isn’t he cute? He comes around, rips on every institution we hold dear, and never leaves. Why he has been allowed to continue his quest for attention is beyond me, frankly. Maybe AllahP enjoys the chuckle at the ludicrousness of his posts, and the ensuing show of actual knowledge that rips the troll’s nuts off.
MadisonConservative on August 21, 2008 at 1:00 AM
freevillage,
Even through Babelfish, you still stink of patchouli and socialism.
You remind me of Chomsky, the Chomsky that fawned over Pol Pot as he slaughtered millions. Except that in this case, I guess you’d be Cambodian and a propagandist for the Khmer Rouge.
spmat on August 21, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Can I see the pictures?
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Winner of the thread. :)))))
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:05 AM
If a group of Russian soldiers showed you their military identification, and proceeded to rape and kill a group of children right before your very eyes, you’d claim their IDs were fraudulent. You’re a modern-day Stalin sympathizer, no more. If you have any balls, return to the land where they will provide you with all the propaganda you desire.
MadisonConservative on August 21, 2008 at 1:08 AM
The unintentional self-parody of that statement, coming from you – of all people – is perhaps the single funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
Projection much?
Professor Blather on August 21, 2008 at 1:10 AM
He’s an undereducated, semi-literate leftist Russian. Check his blog. If you can speak a little Russian, its endlessly amusing.
Professor Blather on August 21, 2008 at 1:12 AM
Your right.
Johan Klaus on August 21, 2008 at 1:12 AM
So no pictures? Your sorry attempts to be my shrink are still pathetic.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Quote something leftist from the blog. Anything.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:14 AM
Psssst… those are a little hard to come by.
spmat on August 21, 2008 at 1:15 AM
Easy answer: he comes here to remind you that no matter how disappointing conservative politicians may be, they’re always infinitely better choices than liberals.
He’s here to point out Professor Blather’s First Rule of Politics: Liberals can’t win elections as long as they keep remind us what they really are.
Professor Blather on August 21, 2008 at 1:15 AM
Россия сосет
Limerick on August 21, 2008 at 1:16 AM
So if the U.S.A. is so bad, why are you here?
Johan Klaus on August 21, 2008 at 1:16 AM
Quote me saying that.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:16 AM
Is that your thousands of dead bodies? Is there a single person here who can at least pass his annual physical?
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:18 AM
You can tell a lot about someone by who hates them.
The fact that totalitarians hate the US is a very good sign. Kudos to you.
Gaunilon on August 21, 2008 at 1:18 AM
Good point. And new. Any chance you might have pictures of thousands killed by the Russians?
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:19 AM
Quote me once saying anything about thousands of dead bodies.
Can you read? Or is irony on your next Hooked on Phonics installment?
spmat on August 21, 2008 at 1:30 AM
MadisonConservative on August 21, 2008 at 1:31 AM
In so many words.
Johan Klaus on August 21, 2008 at 1:33 AM
I wonder how the peace movement in Russia is going these days…
VolMagic on August 21, 2008 at 1:35 AM
Frankly, after skimming the douchebag’s blog through Babelfish, it’s going to be difficult to quote him saying anything of consequence. Most of the cite consists of him stroking his over-inflated epeen, waxing lyrically about how concerned he is about stuff and congratulating himself for being so awesome.
But hey, it’s Babelfish. Might be some Gogol hiding in that mountain of suck for all I know.
spmat on August 21, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Limerick! how’s your son?
funky chicken on August 21, 2008 at 1:41 AM
http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=Babi%20Yar&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:42 AM
Quote any of that.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Pretty badly in my estimation.
freevillage on August 21, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Odds that the woman actually said “because our way is for democracy” unprompted are pretty slim, free.
Totten has a way of hooking up with the propaganda organs of whatever country he’s visiting, and indeed he is touring Georgia in the company of the wife of a Georgian government official.
It’s possible to feel sorry for the Georgians without feeling the need to help them, Johan.
alphie on August 21, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Zounds you are a douche. I’m out. Nighty night, Francis.
spmat on August 21, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Quote —->
<—unquote.
Can’t wait to find out what happens next!
RushBaby on August 21, 2008 at 2:02 AM
Good (as can be expected). Thanks! I hope your feathered friend is doing well also.
Limerick on August 21, 2008 at 2:06 AM
Odds that the woman actually said “because our way is for democracy” unprompted are pretty slim, free.
I would say it under those circumstances, absolutely.
The fact that these words sound trite to you either speaks poorly of your grasp of the reality of the situation there, or of your moral values.
sandberg on August 21, 2008 at 2:27 AM
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