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Ingraham to McCain: “We are literally imploring you to not turn your back on your great pro-life record”

posted at 2:49 pm on August 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Two clips from this morning’s interview courtesy of her producer, Tom Elliott. The second is the two of them sharing a moment aghast at Obama’s “above my pay grade” answer at Saddleback, the first speaks for itself. My verdict: There’s simply no way he’s going to dare social cons to stay home by picking a pro-choicer. It’s a head fake, but whether it’s a head fake (per John Heilemann’s theory this morning) designed to make evangelicals feel relief when Mitt is named or with an eye to some other purpose, I’ll leave to you to guess.


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Go Mitt!

Spanglemaker on August 20, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Okay, let’s suppose this is a headfake. Let’s suppose Heilemann is right–this is meant to defuse any anti-Mitt fervor.

I guess I could see the “pro-choice” trying to inoculate Mitt, but those who hated Mitt with a passion usually used abortion as one of their planks to attack him. Could the “pro-choice” candidate be Romney?

Seriously, if McCain thinks that Romney is pro-choice, like the Huckabites do, wouldn’t this sounding board of a pro-choice running mate also allow for Romney to be the VP?

Of course, Romney isn’t pro-choice, though he once was (mildly pro choice). He’s explained his conversion many times, and it’s always consistent. I for one believe him, though I know many don’t. Perhaps McCain is in that camp that doesn’t believe it?

Vanceone on August 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM

IMHO, McCain is just saying that he ain’t talking about the VP vetting process. Period.

He isn’t saying anything else.

bnelson44 on August 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM

It does not matter to pro-life voters if his administration will be pro-life.

If he picks a pro-abortion candidate he is sending a message that it is “OK”

Also, McCain could die in office and we need assurances that his successors administration will also be pro-life.

EJDolbow on August 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM

AP,

How’s Bryan liking the new boss? Same as the old?

Also, Fred would make a great VP.

VolMagic on August 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Laura has come a long, long way for McCain in about six months. She was very cordial in her statement to McCain.
It was a great interview; she even asked him if he had ever answered a question with “it’s above my pay grade”. He laughed and said that the being the President of the United States is the highest pay grade there is.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM

After listening to this, I am seriously thinking that the publicity McCain is getting is endless. Which is very good. It seems to overshadow Obamination.
I do now believe that the possible VP’s for McCain are Mitt (eh, good), Pawlenty (zzz), Jindal (cool!), and Palin (BEST CHOICE).

jencab on August 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM

McCain to Ingraham: #uck you! I literally know more about this than anyone else in the room.
- John McCain

MB4 on August 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM

How’s Bryan liking the new boss? Same as the old?VolMagic on August 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Both are amongst the most beautiful conservatives we have.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 2:58 PM

It was a great interview; she even asked him if he had ever answered a question with “it’s above my pay grade”. He laughed and said that the being the President of the United States is the highest pay grade there is.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Why don’t you read the post before you comment idiot!

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 2:59 PM

bnelson44 on August 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM

My take as well.

Typhoon on August 20, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Well, I’m a moderate, a former Democrat, and I would stay home if he picks a liberal/leftish VP.

McCain gets a bump when he shows leadership. He takes a dive when he tries to go left. What’s the point of enabling the Reps to make the same mistake over and over?

PattyJ on August 20, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Did anyone else noticed he seem to make a bolder stake when he said.. “Women”? Or is it my speakers?

upinak on August 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM

Per John Heilemann?

Haha…hell, I sent you my blog post from yesterday about it being a strategic move. :-)

http://thirdbasepolitics.blogspot.com

EduardoOTI on August 20, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Go ahead Maverick, dare ‘em to stay home and put an infanticist in the oval office.

You’re not gonna let them push you around, are you? Well are you, PUNK?

tommylotto on August 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Mitt on on Medved right now.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:08 PM

why won’t this refresh now?

upinak on August 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM

McCain to Ingraham: #uck you! I literally know more about this than anyone else in the room.
- John McCain
MB4 on August 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM

I was wondering who was going to be filling in for Alphie today.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Hello – this is bigger than abortion. If he picks someone that is pro-choice then that person is likely to be a Liberal on a whole host of other issues. Who would be there to tell McCain that amnesty is wrong if they too support it? What about drilling in ANWR? Not many people take their ideology buffet style, most follow the Conservative or Liberal main course with various side items from the main menu.

DerKrieger on August 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM

I was wondering who was going to be filling in for Alphie today.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM

MB4 is no where close to alphie. I disagree with him most of the time, but he has served our country and also makes me laugh out loud often.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Some of you are getting pretty comical trying to make McCain jump through so many hoops like a circus lion before you will deign to grant him your support.

John McCain has THE strongest pro-life public record of ANY major party nominee in the history of America, and the strongest in the entire Republican field this cycle. It’s the one issue he has been most consistent on in his 26 years in Congress, other than perhaps opposing ethanol subsidies. His nomination should have been viewed as a triumph by pro-life people. Yet you all act like it’s still not good enough. The bar keeps getting raised.

rockmom on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

So if it is Romney and if McCain wins in November……

Anybody see McCain establishing a cordial working relationship with Romney in the way Bush and Cheney have worked as a team for the past eight years?

highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Interesting answer by Eric Cantor (VA Congressman and possible VP candidate) to Wolf Blitzer, this past Saturday night, on a question of how pro-life McCain could consider a pro-choice VP:

“What I heard is that John McCain thinks highly of individuals such as Tom Ridge who happens not to be pro-life. But in my opinion — of course this is John McCain’s choice to make — we ought to have a pro-life vice president and again I am confident that John McCain is going to continue to stand for the policies he has stood for all along which is pro-life policies.”

Nichevo on August 20, 2008 at 3:18 PM

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:08 PM

I won’t get him for another 2 hours.

upinak on August 20, 2008 at 3:18 PM

It happens. Don’t think Bush-Cheney, though — think Reagan-Bush. Those were the former (bitter) primary rivals who worked things out.

tigerinexile on August 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Anybody see McCain establishing a cordial working relationship with Romney in the way Bush and Cheney have worked as a team for the past eight years?

Yes.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM

rockmom on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Are you deaf and dumb?

A Liberal is a Liberal through and through. Set aside abortion for a moment and tell me the advantages to the Conservative movement of a Liberman VP? And what if McCain died in office? We Republicans would have elected a Democrat!

This particulart VP choice, IMO, is one of the most critical in history given McCain’s age. His choice will have the next 4 years to audition for the big job in 2012. Why select a guy who would be unpalatable to us as POTUS?

DerKrieger on August 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM

rockmom on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

McCain does this to himself. He comes out with a strong statement at Saddleback and two days later is undoing it all by commenting on perhaps choosing a pro-murder running mate. The bottom line is that there is far more to the “culture of life” than abortion and much of it deals with social issues where McCain can’t be trusted without a thorough vetting.

highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:08 PM

I won’t get him for another 2 hours.

upinak on August 20, 2008 at 3:18 PM

No spoilers then.
Well, he stated that he IS going to be the VP pick. But other than that, no spoilers!

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM

I’m not so sure it was a “head fake” to float the idea of a pro-choice VP. Why make it appear that he doesn’t take the issue seriously enough to consider when picking a VP?

I suspect that he genuinely wanted to at least consider Lieberman or Ridge as prospects, but the reaction was too negative to make it plausible.

Hollowpoint on August 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM

and also makes me laugh out loud often

So does Carrot Top.

BobMbx on August 20, 2008 at 3:21 PM

It happens. Don’t think Bush-Cheney, though — think Reagan-Bush. Those were the former (bitter) primary rivals who worked things out.

tigerinexile on August 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM

True, that worked out ‘okay’ for us!

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:21 PM

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM

What a surprise coming from you. The question was really addressed to the more objective posters.

highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM

At this point I would settle for Romney or the rarely mentioned Fred Thompson. While Thompson would solidify the conservative vote, Romney can bring his economic prowess to the table.

Slightly off topic….Has anyone notice how nice it’s been since the Olympics has replaced the two doofus’s over at MSNBC?

Rovin on August 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM

So does Carrot Top.

BobMbx on August 20, 2008 at 3:21 PM

No, bad example. Perhaps Stephen Colbert.
Carrot Top just makes me cringe.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM

“Above my pay grade.”

Funny, I was watching the movie “Inside Man” with Denzel Washington the other night and during an exchange with Jody Foster she mentions to him that the information he wanted from her was “above his pay grade.” I thought it was interesting in light of the current topic.

Smooth Rooster on August 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM

John McCain has THE strongest pro-life public record of ANY major party nominee in the history of America, and the strongest in the entire Republican field this cycle.

And yet his campaign consistently floats pro-abortion VP candidates.

Hmmm…perhaps he’s not as strong as all that.

Jimmie on August 20, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Anybody see McCain establishing a cordial working relationship with Romney in the way Bush and Cheney have worked as a team for the past eight years?

highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:16 PM

No way. Romney has too much ambition of his own, and McCain thinks he’s a weasel. Cheney never indicated that he wanted to be President, and I think that that is a big part of the reason why he and Bush have gotten along so well.

Big S on August 20, 2008 at 3:23 PM

rockmom on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

+1

a capella on August 20, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Not many people take their ideology buffet style, most follow the Conservative or Liberal main course with various side items from the main menu.

DerKrieger on August 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM

I agree.

And what if McCain died in office? We Republicans would have elected a Democrat!

This particulart VP choice, IMO, is one of the most critical in history given McCain’s age. His choice will have the next 4 years to audition for the big job in 2012. Why select a guy who would be unpalatable to us as POTUS?

DerKrieger on August 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Well said.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 3:24 PM

I think I’d rather have to listen to carrot top’s views on politics.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Vance:

I guess I could see the “pro-choice” trying to inoculate Mitt, but those who hated Mitt with a passion usually used abortion as one of their planks to attack him. Could the “pro-choice” candidate be Romney?

Seriously, if McCain thinks that Romney is pro-choice, like the Huckabites do, wouldn’t this sounding board of a pro-choice running mate also allow for Romney to be the VP?

Of course, Romney isn’t pro-choice, though he once was (mildly pro choice).

Yep. It could work for either Romney or Rudy, actually. Both are good picks, and both have fans in the pro-life camp. Any of these other possibilities (Ridge, Lieberman, Jodi Rell, etc) would be disastrous.

funky chicken on August 20, 2008 at 3:25 PM

What a surprise coming from you. The question was really addressed to the more objective posters.
highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM

So did the hated McCain tell Laura to F-Off as MB4 joked?

No?

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Cheney never indicated that he wanted to be President, and I think that that is a big part of the reason why he and Bush have gotten along so well.
Big S on August 20, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Well, whoever takes McCain’s VP slot had damn well better not have any qualms about being president.

Nichevo on August 20, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Some of you are getting pretty comical trying to make McCain jump through so many hoops like a circus lion before you will deign to grant him your support.
rockmom on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Considering his mavericky record, he has a lot more hoops to jump through before conservatives could justify supporting him as anything other than the “not Obama” candidate.

Hollowpoint on August 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Hollowpoint on August 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM

I suspect that McCain would prefer Lieberman or somebody ideologically closer to his left leaning positions on social issues. If he selects a running mate more acceptable to the GOP base it is only because his campaign has figured out that he needs them to win in November.

Besides, as much fun as it is watching the Dems implode, the last thing McCain needs at the RNC Convention is a divisive crowd angry that McCain picked a like-minded liberal for the ticket in a true “screw you” moment for the GOP base.

highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM

I do not believe that being Pro-Life should be the sole criteria for either the VP or the P, let alone any other office.

With the Islamic Fascism now being joined by a resurgent Russia, there appears to be other issue that are far more compelling.

Please recall that Ronald Reagan signed at least one abortion bill while he was Governor of CA. And while Pro-Life as President, the end of the Cold War seems to be a bigger accomplishment than not obtaining an anti-abortion amendment.

Oxybeles on August 20, 2008 at 3:28 PM

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Now we just need to get him to lay off the quotes and train him so he can have his first independent thought.

Darth Executor on August 20, 2008 at 3:29 PM

I think I’d rather have to listen to carrot top’s views on politics.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:24 PM

: )

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Anybody see McCain establishing a cordial working relationship with Romney in the way Bush and Cheney have worked as a team for the past eight years?

highhopes on August 20, 2008 at 3:16 PM

They are men, not boys. And both are patriots and solid leaders. Of course they could work well together.

I’d prefer to see Romney in the cabinet where he could use his economic smarts in a focused way, but he’d be a fine VP pick. My guess is Romney would prefer the cabinet position also. The work would be much more interesting.

funky chicken on August 20, 2008 at 3:30 PM

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Now we just need to get him to lay off the quotes and train him so he can have his first independent thought.

Darth Executor on August 20, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Yes, but the quotes are fun sometimes.

carbon_footprint on August 20, 2008 at 3:30 PM

No Mitt!

Spanglemaker on August 20, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Fixed.

Hollowpoint on August 20, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Please recall that Ronald Reagan signed at least one abortion bill while he was Governor of CA. And while Pro-Life as President, the end of the Cold War seems to be a bigger accomplishment than not obtaining an anti-abortion amendment.

Oxybeles on August 20, 2008 at 3:28 PM

That meme always gets dragged out. It doesn’t work for your purposes. I have my reply saved as a Word doc, I’ve used it so many times.

Fred Barnes: Choosing Life How pro-lifers become pro-lifers. In it, he wrote:

In his first year as California governor in 1967, the legislature passed a bill to legalize “therapeutic” abortions…

His instinct was to veto the bill and the Catholic archbishop of Los Angeles urged him to follow that course. But he signed it into law. Reagan was disturbed by his decision, however, and continued to think long and hard about abortion. The bill, according to Lou Cannon in Governor Reagan, “permitted more legal abortions in California than occurred in any other state before the advent of Roe v. Wade.” Reagan’s worst fear was realized.

By 1980, Reagan had changed his mind and become a firm opponent of abortion. He insisted on a pro-life plank in the Republican platform for the first time. In 1983, he published a passionate pro-life essay, Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation. It turned out that signing the abortion bill in 1967 was the only political mistake that Reagan ever admitted.

Also:

1. Lou Cannon in his book Governor Reagan His Rise to Power mentions on page 213, that in 1970 Reagan successfully opposed legislative attempts to further liberalize abortion law.

2. On a Marxist website, (which I won’t link to, but you can search if you like) in an article titled Our Bodies! Our Choice! Winning the Fight for Reproductive Rights by Evelyn Sell, she writes:

For example, an abortion rights rally was set for March 10, 1973, in San Francisco to protest Governor Ronald Reagan’s statements against abortion.

3. TIME Magazine, Uproar over Abortion, February 16, 1976, discussing Carter, Reagan and Ford on abortion:

Ronald Reagan has come out flatly against abortion on demand and in favor of the constitutional amendment outlawing abortion except in rare cases posing a clear risk to the woman’s life.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I do not believe that being Pro-Life should be the sole criteria for either the VP or the P, let alone any other office. Oxybeles on August 20, 2008 at 3:28 PM

I don’t think it’s particularly critical either if the issue could stand on its own two feet but, as I said above, the candidates stance on abortion gives us insight into their positions on a whole host of other issues. Liberals and Conservatives don’t fight over a single issue but a whole bunch of similar issues.

If a person says they are a Conservative or a Liberal you can probably guess with near 100% accuracy where they stand on a particular issue. If a person supports abortion they they are likely to be Liberal on many others. So why risk a Liberal VP when we already have an incoherent quasi-Liberal as our POTUS candidate?

DerKrieger on August 20, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I don’t understand the emphasis on abortion as a presidential candidate litmus test. What is it exactly that social cons want the president to do practically? Try to overturn Roe v. Wade? No president from here on out will be able to do that, or even try it.

I don’t understand the huffing and puffing from a constituency who would be even more marginalized under the Democratic Party alternative. Fine, make your statement and not vote for McCain. Just know that you would consign the rest of us to soft socialism for the conceivable future.

The time to piss and moan about this was during the primaries.

Laserjock on August 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I do not believe that being Pro-Life should be the sole criteria for either the VP or the P, let alone any other office. With the Islamic Fascism now being joined by a resurgent Russia, there appears to be other issue that are far more compelling.
Oxybeles on August 20, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Indeed.

Hopefully there are less people who are so single-issue voters out there with short memories such as the example you cited with Reagan. Because the international threat to us all, as you also just mentioned is far more serious and immediate. As Dennis Miller said:

“I want someone in office who will croak the most terrorists.”

Besides, Who do you think will be either more helpful, OR more harmful to abortion in the way of supreme court justices, McCain or Obama.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:34 PM

If Pavlov were alive today, he would need neither dogs nor bells for his experiments.

Just mention “Lieberman” in connection with McCain and the foam saliva starts drooling out.

McCain hasn’t announced a pick yet, for Pete’s sake! That he chooses to play out the speculation — as presidential candidates have done all along — should not be the signal for rampant snarkiness.

MrScribbler on August 20, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Reagan even wrote an essay titled Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation and it’s been published as a small book.

You can read Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation here online at NRO. They stated,

EDITOR’S NOTE: While president, Ronald Reagan penned an this article for The Human Life Review, unsolicited. It ran in the Review’s Spring 1983, issue and is reprinted here with permission.

I don’t know if anyone has said being pro-life should be a sole criteria. Many, many people believe it is a crucial criteria.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 3:37 PM

I doubt that he’ll pick a pro-abortion VP, but who knows? Speculation is great and understandable, but there are a lot of people who are getting their panties all in a wad over something that hasn’t happened. That’s irrational. Crazy. Take your meds insane.

Just sayin.

rightwingprof on August 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Collie, what should we do if McCain chooses a pro-choice VP?

In that case, every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell John McCain’s ass.

Barry GoldwaterCC’s collie

You have any objections, MB4?

CyberCipher on August 20, 2008 at 3:47 PM

What is it exactly that social cons want the president to do practically? Try to overturn Roe v. Wade? No president from here on out will be able to do that, or even try it.

Laserjock on August 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM

First of all it’s a good thing we’ve got Roberts and Alito there, although I will say I think Bush was pushed into nominating them.

Second, a leader sets a tone and attitude. That’s important even when he can’t do direct things. It’s an influence on people’s thinking.

Third, there are other things the President can do. Jill Stanek has a great slide show she put together of Clinton’s term of office and influence on abortion. I’ll try to put together her salient points.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Here’s one slide from Jill Stanek: Bill Clinton’s abortion legacy

January 22, 1993:

President’s Clinton’s 3rd day in office

Reversed years of pro-life progress by issuing five executive orders in one day:

Reversed Title 10 regulations banning abortion referral by federal employees

Repealed Mexico City Policy restricting federal funding of international organizations that work to reverse countries’ abortion laws

Negated ban on funding for fetal tissue transplants

Ordered military hospitals to commit abortions

Overturned RU-486 ban and ordered FDA to review ways to license and manufacture it.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM

“We are literally imploring you to not turn your back on your great pro-life record.”

Don’t beg. Begging is for losers. DEMAND.

Spanglemaker on August 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Stanek also states:

1993

Clinton health care plan:

The Clintons included coverage for elective abortion in their massive health care plan.

The plan also called for rationed medical care, which would have inevitably lead to non-voluntary euthanasia.

June 10: President Clinton authorized government funded tissue research from aborted fetuses for the first time in U.S. history.

June 14: President Clinton nominated former ACLU attorney Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court.

Nov. 22: The Clinton administration announced International Planned Parenthood Federation would receive $75 million over the next 5 years.

Dec. 28: Clinton ordered every state Medicaid director to change laws and pay for abortion when an abortionist reported a pregnancy was from rape or incest.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Yet again showing that McCain’s greatest strength is his opponent.

spmat on August 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM

So did the hated McCain tell Laura to F-Off as MB4 joked?

No?

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 3:26 PM

The key word there was joked.
It’s not like he hasn’t said that to anyone.

brtex on August 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM

More from Stanek:

1996:

Apr. 10: Clinton issued his 1st veto of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act.

1997:

Oct. 10: President Clinton issued his 2nd veto of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act.

2000:

Sept. 28: In the final days of the Clinton administration, the FDA authorized use of RU-486 in the U.S. via “fast track” a pproval process, reserved for drugs treating”severe or life-threatening illnesses.”

Clinical trials were defective, not meeting FDA’s own standards; pediatric rule waived with no explanation.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM

This is stupid. Pro-lifedness is the one thing conservatives shouldn’t be worried about McCain on. McCain is all kinds of pro-life. The most important question for the President is what kind of judges they will appoint. That’s why I could support Rudy even though I consider myself pro-life. Judges are the most important issue in the abortion debate.

JohnJ on August 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM

brtex on August 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM

This is his broken-record routine. I use “joked” very loosely. I’d rather be allowed to use another term to describe his tactics.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Stanek finishes Clinton’s abortion legacy with some of his miscellaneous actions. She did an invaluable service putting this together, not just to discuss Clinton, but to give some answers to the question about what can the President do about abortion, anyway.

Other miscellaneous actions

President Clinton urged the Supreme Court to uphold Roe v. Wade.

The Clinton Administration endorsed the Freedom of Choice Act, which would have enshrined Roe into law and overturned every state regulation on abortion. FOCA was defeated in a Democrat Congress.

President Clinton unsuccessfully attempted to repeal the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits federal funding of abortion except in rare cases.

President Clinton ordered federally funded family planning clinics to counsel and refer for abortion.

The Clinton Administration resumed funding to the pro-abortion UNFPA, which helps manage China’s forced abortion program.

Clinton’s representative to the United Nations worked to establish an international “right” to abortion.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Judges are the most important issue in the abortion debate.

JohnJ on August 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM

They’re not the only issue. Did you read the quotes I just posted?

INC on August 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Yet again showing that McCain’s greatest strength is his opponent.
spmat on August 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Yet again, showing that many here don’t get it.

Some of you are getting pretty comical trying to make McCain jump through so many hoops like a circus lion before you will deign to grant him your support. – rockmom

But hey, horses can be led to water, but no one can force them to drink.

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 4:17 PM

I’d also like to remind you of McCain and Wisconsin Right to Life and the Federal Election Commission. Andrew McCarthy at NRO wrote about this earlier this year here, here, and here.

Senator McCain was not a party to the dispute between Wisconsin Right to Life and the Federal Election Commission. He claims to be a stalwart right to life partisan. He is, beyond peradventure, a political-speech suppression activist. In the dispute, these two values were in conflict. This is unavoidable in life, in politics, and in law. But if you’re not a party to a particular dispute, you needn’t involve yourself — you get to sit it out and let the concerned parties make their case to a neutral arbiter. That is what most of us do when two things we care about are in counterpoise — we may offer a stray opinion here or there, but for the most part we stay out of the fray and depend on the court to sort it out fairly.

The other approach is to decide which value is more important to you and become a partisan. That is what Senator McCain did.

McCarthy goes on say:

He could have stayed out of it entirely. Or, choosing to involve himself, he could have filed an amicus brief in support of Wisconsin Right to Life, arguing for the urgency of permitting its message to be heard. He chose, instead, to support restrictions on speech for the benefit of incumbents — particularly, his co-crusader against the First Amendment, Sen. Russ Feingold.

That is a fact. Add all the context you’d like — it’ll still be a fact.

There’s a reason why pro-life advocates look closely at McCain, you know.

INC on August 20, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I think I’ll wait to foam at the mouth until and IF he actually picks pro-abortion VP. Wouldn’t THAT be a novel idea.

scotth on August 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM

If she could afford the pay-cut, Laura would be a fantastic Vice-President.

Then again, she would probably have a very difficult time staying out of the spotlight. And, I’d miss hearing her rip apart bad policy on a daily basis.

Rogue Traveler on August 20, 2008 at 4:29 PM

There is only one hoop McCain needs to jump through, the Conservative one.

MNDavenotPC on August 20, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Wouldn’t THAT be a novel idea.

scotth on August 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Indeed it would!

brtex on August 20, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Especially since McCain is the presumptive nominee of the conservative party, MNDavenotPC. And since he got the most votes in the conservative party primary by the conservative party members. The nomination at the GOP, I mean, the Grand Conservative Party is going to be a sight to see, right MNDavenotPC?

wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Any reason I can’t see the video clips? I mean…they’re not there for me (?)

JetBoy on August 20, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Maybe McCain’s just trying to score points with somebody (moderates I guess) with the notion that he considered pro-choice possibilities even thought it’s fairly inconceivable that he would actually pick such a candidate. If you’re pro-choice it might be comforting to think he was open to the idea even if he ultimately doesn’t go in that direction.

Bennett on August 20, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Any reason I can’t see the video clips? I mean…they’re not there for me (?)

JetBoy on August 20, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Not videos, audio clips. Do you have Quicktime plug-in?

hillbillyjim on August 20, 2008 at 11:57 PM

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