Convention speakers named: Fred, Palin, Jindal, Romney, Huck, Pawlenty — and Rudy as keynote
posted at 12:40 pm on August 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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CBS has the list. Rob Portman and Chris Cox aren’t there but everyone who’s everyone else is (including Michael Steele), so unless Maverick goes dark horse for his VP pick this schedule will change to move the nominee to Wednesday night. Rudy is the nominal keynoter — er, why? — but note the spot reserved for Jindal: Wednesday night, after the VP speaks. Has that ever happened before? The VP gets his/her big moment in the sun, and then promptly gets upstaged? Maybe Jindal’s the nominee and the schedulers are just being coy.
Interestingly, neither Romney nor Pawlenty is scheduled to speak in primetime while Rudy and Schwarzennegger are. Why stiff two up-and-comers in the party in favor of two guys going nowhere who already delivered major addresses four years ago?
Update: Ed e-mails to say he has a copy of the schedule and Jindal is slated to speak before the VP, not after. No wonder.
Update: Hold the phone. NBC says Jindal will follow the veep, too, but for the specific purpose of formally placing McCain’s name in nomination. Again, that seems like something that should be done before the VP goes on.
Update (Ed): Want to know who’s not on the list? Governor Mark Sanford. I’m just sayin’ ….
Update: Good catch, but there may be a non-VP explanation for that. Supposedly McCain and Sanford were on the outs for awhile, and Sanford didn’t do him any favors with his notorious CNN appearance last month.
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Out of all of the major primary candidates, Romney spent the greatest amount of time attacking the others, distorting their records in the process. How people see him as a “team player” is beyond me.
Big S on August 20, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Go Fred!
Okay… I can have wishful thinking if I want.
Sultry Beauty on August 20, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Um, guys, let’s not have another Romney fight. It’s kinda dumb as he’s not the nominee, and he is supporting McCain fully.
Perhaps he didn’t want a prime time speaking slot. Perhaps he’s going to be moved into one at a later date.
Again, it’s great how the McCain campaign is getting so much press/buzz about the Republican convention right before the dem convention. And Barry is just coming apart at the seams because of it.
funky chicken on August 20, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Rudy!
My Favorite! YAY!!!!!
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!!!
w00t!
Chakra Hammer on August 20, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Big S: It’s quite simple, really. Mitt killed his candidacy when it was clear he wouldn’t win, and supported McCain (the winner) after that. He’s been a faithful McCain promoter since. He’s done good work since then as well. Couple that with Huck and Paul, who both went on, trying to be distractions and for whom it was “all about me.” It still his.
Romney ran a good campaign, but when it was time to fold up the tent, he did so and has been a great Party man since. He’s more than proven his bona fides as someone who is working for the Republican party first.
Vanceone on August 20, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I’m guessing that the VP is already scheduled to speak, and Jindal will be moved to whatever spot they were already occupying.
phelps on August 20, 2008 at 2:38 PM
There’s Primaries, and there’s General.
Bush the Elder went after Reagan when they competed for the top spot in 1980 (”Voodoo economics”) with some success, but when the nomination was won, Bush knuckled under.
Dole complained bitterly about that same Bush “lying about my record!” but became a team player once the nomination fight was settled.
McCain in 2000 was furious about George W. Bush’s primary tactics, real and imagined. He wasn’t such a team player afterward, which is one reason why so many conservatives are pissed that he won this time out.
Then there’s Huckabee.
Primaries can be knock-down dragouts. Negative campaigning is nothing new. What is new is the refusal of some to unite behind the nominee. Mitt did his darnedest to win, and as negative ads go his were based on actual records (just not spun to the rival’s liking - boo freaking hoo). He spent a lot on advertising, and as a percentage, his “contrast” ads were not that big. He just had bazillions to spend on ads.
But once he struck camp, he became a team player, without hesitation. More than can be said for Huck.
sulla on August 20, 2008 at 2:42 PM
We have so many great republicans! Amazing line up indeed.
jencab on August 20, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Herein lies the root of the problem. Great Republicans instead of great Conservatives. In the past decade or two we have conflated the two…some of us believing they were the same…but this is what got us to where we ar at today. A republican party that is neither Republican nor Conservative.
After we win in November the GOP should take over the Greenbriar out in West Virginia, and convene an “all hands on deck” series of meetings and get down to identifying what Conservatism and federalism are and how best the Republican Party can spearhead the effort over the next few decades to rebuild America while de-constructing government.
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Oh, come on, please? They’re my favoritest fights ever!
As I said, I’d give Huck a prime-time slot. It’s smart; it gives something to Huck’s Army, Huck is a good speaker with some crossover appeal to the Religious Left.
And Huck would take a snub a lot less graciously than anyone else.
Romney’s going to do whatever it takes to get McCain elected. If that means taking a back seat, he’ll do it. The more McCain comes to trust him, the more he’ll be used; Mitt takes the long view.
sulla on August 20, 2008 at 2:47 PM
I notice Ron Paul is conspiculously missing from the list…
I suppose that means he is the secret speaker at the wednesday timeslot..
Mccain/Paul 08!
SaintOlaf on August 20, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Ack!
sulla on August 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM
I disagree.
Palin and Jindal are very conservative and aren’t willing to back down.
You may want to speak for yourself.
upinak on August 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Are you always this wacked out?
upinak on August 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM
An All-Star Cast! Looks interesting enough to pay attention to this convention!
kiakjones on August 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM
“Country first” is a great theme for the McCain convention. The elitists of the world will just say “rubes”. But note, the rubes vote in droves, and they love their country, and are more than worried about its future.
Entelechy on August 20, 2008 at 3:18 PM
It’s also hard to argue against “Country first”, without embracing the dreaded U.N. and “bonjour”.
Entelechy on August 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM
upinak on August 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM –
We cannot afford to let ourselves get swept up each election cycle trying to elect GOP candidates who have an (R) after their name simply because they want to defeat a candidate with a (D) after their name.
In many districts, in quite a few states, and nationally, the RINO has cost us dearly. Sure, we’d have the numbers in the House, or in State legislatures…but their actions after election wandered quite a ways off the reservation.
Look at the slates in as many states as you can, and then look at the person behind that name with the (R) behind it.
Then, look at the actions of those elected officials who claim to be Republican and by their actions, aren’t. I’m not talking about crossing the aisle when there is legislation of merit. And the GOP doesn’t have all the answers, either. I’m talking about people we elect who go ahead and increase spending on programs that are pork or are not the perview of the federal government, raise taxes or otherwise stifle incentives in the free market, or who pander to special interests and segments of the population in order to get votes, or who use the Treasury as an ATM machine via the earmark process…that sort of stuff.
We’ve got to clean house, set standards, set a direction, define goals and seek out and assist the best and brightest Conservatives and Federalists we can find among all of America and then get busy with the program…one sheet of music…one goal.
Win or lose in November…the GOP has got to get itself back on proper trim.
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM
No argument there. Well said.
sulla on August 20, 2008 at 3:51 PM
No argument as well. And having very conservative candidates with one that stands out above the rest, who can inspire the most voter’s support in the primaries would be outstanding.
wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM
PUMA! PUMA! It isn’t too late for Fred! It is already accepted that the GOP nominee will be an older white guy. Why not at least he be a conservative older white guy? Go Fred!
Mallard T. Drake on August 20, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Maybe the democrats can dump Obama for Hillary, and the republicans can dump McCain for Fred.
Democracy, letting the majority voice of all the people who voted to choose the candidate, isn’t all that important, anyway.
wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 4:47 PM
My bet is that McCain will pick someone for VP. Anyone else with me?
Halley on August 20, 2008 at 4:50 PM
…tricky.
Will McCain pick the VP, or will he have one imposed on him?
Probably the former, because Maverick doesn’t buckle easily.
sulla on August 20, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Upstaged by the feces and urine throwing or upstaged by a Jimmy Carter speech?
Chuck Schick on August 20, 2008 at 5:21 PM
There is a large segment among the Dems who look to Jimmy Carter as a senior statesman and a great President. The Warren Christopher school of foreign relations is a direct link to Carter, and Christopher is one of Obama’s senior policy advisors, as is Albright who is closely tied to Christopher.
Has a former President ever appeared on a ballot for Vice President?
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Not that it would happen in a million years, but imagine if McCain picked Bush for this VP. It would drive the “McCain is Bush#3 / McSAME!”democrats completely over the top. Of course, it wouldn’t work because the same man can’t be president 3 times. If anything happened to McCain, we’d get a president Nancy Pelosi. (An alternate selection would be Dick Cheney. Now that is devilish.)
But nothing says Carter can’t be Obama’s VP. Nothing would be more appropriate, since an Obama presidency could be very much like Carter’s second term.
wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 5:56 PM
wise_man on August 20, 2008 at 5:56 PM –
Ixnay on the Ushbay! :-) [That'd end it for the GOP even before the ink was dry on the press announcements.]
I’m talking about Obama selecting Carter as a running mate…elder statesman and all that. Carter is venal enough to accept it.
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 6:04 PM
LOL. I swear I went on vacation to Vegas with you and your wife. Too funny!
upinak on August 20, 2008 at 6:06 PM
LOL. I swear I went on vacation to Vegas with you and your wife. Too funny!
upinak on August 20, 2008 at 6:06 PM –
That’d have to have been years and years ago, and except for the fact that the only part of Vegas I’ve set foot in was the airport a few times transiting to other places in lower Nevada.
Presently happily single, previously
ownedmarried.coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Unless Jindal is the VP then his positioning is a joke. Rudy the keynote? I agree with Rudy in primetime but find someone better for the keynote.
Also, why are the keeping Lieberman out of primetime? He should be getting hrown in the dems face with a big speech.
eski502 on August 20, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Sorry to hear that. But you do remind me of a friend who lived in Cali with the same name and sense of humor/common sense. I went on a vacation with a political “group” and we all went to vegas and had a great time. 2003 or 2004 lol can’t remember the year.
upinak on August 20, 2008 at 6:27 PM
The VP has to be someone on the schedule who speaks after the VP announcement Wednesday:
Gov. Bobby Jindal, R-La.
Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.
Gov. Charlie Crist, R-Fla.
Sen. Sam Brownback, R-KansasSen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla
Doubtful that it’ll be a dark horse (rascist!!).
omnipotent on August 20, 2008 at 6:54 PM
REFRESHING…
I love Governors Sarah Palin, and Bobby Jindal. Two up and coming new Pubby stars.
byteshredder on August 20, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Having an ineligible president (i.e. George Bush or Jimmy Carter that has served two terms) isn’t permitted to take a VP position.
Scenario: Pres takes office Jan. 20th, resigns next day, former two-term pres (the VP) is elevated to president. Not permitted.
electric-rascal on August 20, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Fred Thompson is very Federalist/Conservative; the kind of candidate the left least wanted to run against.
Oops, a goof: Carter was one term, so he technically would be permitted. I was thinking of Bill Clinton when I entered Carter. My bad.
electric-rascal on August 20, 2008 at 7:54 PM
electric-rascal on August 20, 2008 at 7:49 PM –
Carter served only ONE term. 1977-1981. Having lived through it it did seem to go on forever and ever…
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 7:54 PM
electric-rascal on August 20, 2008 at 7:54 PM –
Glad you caught that one.
Still have my “Vets for Fred!” sticker on my car.
I would hope after the GOP wins in November that Fred and Newt sit down and provide the GOP with some serious instruction on Conservatism and Federalism. Lord knows, we, the GOP, could use it.
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Why wish? Write him in like I’m doing. That’s two of us: any other takers?
Send_Me on August 20, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Want to see a real Conservative and Federalist? Read this
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23488
Chakra Hammer on August 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM
lol
funky chicken on August 20, 2008 at 8:38 PM
um, not Newt.
funky chicken on August 20, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Chakra Hammer on August 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM –
Then we add Rudy to the faculty.
My point was and remains, is that the GOP has been wobbling between Democrat Lite and Expedience 101 for far too long. We also have a new generation coming on board, young men and women for whom Reagan is either an infant memory or something they’ve only read about. The YAF (an excellent program, by the way) is making headway, but we can only harken back to Reagan for just so long. We need to look forward, and chart a path to get there.
There are real Conservtives and real Federalists out there. We just need to find them, encourasge them, make it a priority for the GOP from local precincts to Washington, DC.
Conservatism and Federalism have been, for many “republicans,” concepts to be avoided, because of the tired old notion that to be Conservative in today’s world is a throwback, and that being a Federalist means you don’t care what happens at the state and local level.
We, the People, in order to form a more perfect union…
Well, it is about time, we Conservatives and Federalists, in order to form a more perfect America, should be writ large on our stationery. And we need to get well beyond just started in that pursuit.
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM
funky chicken on August 20, 2008 at 8:39 PM –
Why not Newt? Why should Newt be excluded from being part of the GOP rebuilding process as a mentor and a thoughtful provacateur?
coldwarrior on August 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM
PALIN
PALIN
PALIN
faraway on August 20, 2008 at 10:13 PM
He should ask Dick Cheney to stay on.
roninacreage on August 20, 2008 at 11:09 PM
VP Karl Rove?
roninacreage on August 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Oooh! Don’t you know that would give the Democrats fits!
backwoods conservative on August 21, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Sultry Beast, I’m with you! FRED! Oh, I’d jump for joy at that :-D
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on August 21, 2008 at 1:07 AM
I did it with pride in the TX primary. I fainted :) twice today when his name was mentioned at Hot Air. But when I revived, I realized that no, I will not be writing him in in November. He has been a competent, but not eloquent or prolific, writer since his day in the sun. His heart’s in the right place. Conservatism is in his architecture, but leadership is not. A more introverted society would revere him. The society we live in…hands over the keys to McCain or Obama.
RushBaby on August 21, 2008 at 1:28 AM
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