Limbaugh to McCain: A pro-choice VP guarantees defeat; Update: Lieberman “very much in the mix,” say McCain advisors; Update: McCain “got the message,” says RNC; Update: It’s Ridge, says (unreliable?) CNN source
posted at 3:21 pm on August 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Assorted quotes from today’s show via Halperin, the choicest of which is this:
The drive-bys are just hoping for this. They are just hoping for it because they know it’s not just a few loud mouths in the base. They know the base will totally turn on McCain if this is the case… it’s about trying to persuade McCain to make a decision that will ensure his defeat…
What is this about picking a liberal Democrat or a liberal Republican? McCain has already seen to it that he can walk across the aisle that he’s the top of the ticket. If anybody is going to attract moderates it’s going to be the top of the ticket guy. He’s not going to help himself any additional way, he’s going to hurt himself by putting a liberal or a liberal Republican on this ticket, particularly pro-choice.
Call this “DefCon 2.” If not for Lowry claiming last night that McCain’s sounding people out about a pro-choicer, I’d never have believed he’s considering it. As it is, K-Lo’s now hearing that Ridge is out and, as I said earlier, Rudy’s been off the radar for so long and brings so little to the ticket that I have to believe he’s out too. That leaves Lieberman, who’s (a) part of Maverick’s inner circle, (b) only yesterday made some noise about reversing his opinion on Sam Alito, (c) has been featured in McCain web ads that look oddly like what you’d expect an ad for a ticket to look like, (d) has been teasing the media for weeks about attending the GOP convention, (e) given his hawkishness, is the very best McCain could do if he’s aiming — futilely — to build a fusion ticket that might be acceptable both to centrists and the base, and (f) would be the most self-consciously, ostentatiously Maverick-y choice McCain could make, which doubtless holds enormous appeal for him for precisely that reason. I have to say, I’m a little worried. Follow the link to Halperin and you’ll see Limbaugh’s worried too.
Other VP odds and ends: An ad agency snooping around through domain names finds an interesting detail about obamasebelius.com; my own domain snooping about mccainpalin.com reveals a mystery registrant as well, but it’s probably just a Palin fan unconnected to the campaign since the site was reserved in late January; and finally, Barry O’s likely first appearance with his VP will be in Springfield, Illinois. His home state, of course — and the home state of Her Majesty, too. Hmmm.
Update: Just across at Politico. Gulp.
John McCain is seriously considering choosing a pro-abortion-rights running mate despite vocal resistance from conservatives, with former Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) very much in the mix, close McCain advisers say…
Multiple GOP sources say that party officials in Washington and in the states have been contacted by the McCain campaign in the past two weeks and asked about the fallout from such a choice. One person familiar with the calls said the party was being instructed to prepare for different candidate prototypes — including one in the mold of Lieberman, who is an independent but still caucuses with the Democrats…
GOP sources say McCain and his close friend Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) still haven’t given up hope on making what some believe would be a game-changing decision by tapping Lieberman…
“It would fit well into the narrative of his not having any politics in the White House,” said the source. “No more Dick Morris, no more Karl Rove — we’re governing here. It’s an easy, natural message for McCain and it implies a one-term pledge without actually saying it.”
As for the inevitable blowback from the right, this person acknowledged the convention would be “a messy week,” representing a “shock to the system of a pro-life party.”
Follow the link for dire assessments galore from social cons. Exit quotation from ACU President David Keene: “Lieberman would blow things up.”
Update: Reassurance from the RNC by way of Fox News: “Several sources at the RNC told FOX News that in the last 36 hours, senior McCain advisers and aides have told RNC officials that McCain ‘got the message’ last week that choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights would not be helpful.”
Update: Into the hall of mirrors we go! Now this from CNN: “Several campaign officials say they do not believe a final decision has been made – though two sources say McCain may have already decided, and told only Davis. One party insider tells CNN that Davis has called several state party chairs indicating Ridge will be the Republican vice presidential pick this cycle – although it is possible that Christian conservatives may be playing up the former governor’s chances in an effort to raise alarm and prematurely kill off his candidacy.”
Update: I should have mentioned in the Politico update that they’re hearing Ridge is still in the mix, too. What to make of all the back and forth here? I can only guess that McCain is considering him and Lieberman, that social cons in the know are nervous about it and trying to scare McCain straight by raising the alarm now, and that the RNC’s in damage control mode publicly while privately they’re staging an intervention. Alternate theories?
Update: No, wait — it’s Meg Whitman! (Who?)
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I like Lieberman’s hawkishness, but McCain could easily score all kinds of points with the abortion issue this election should he choose to. Obama’s opposition to a bill that would have prevented killing babies AFTER birth will haunt him with all Christian groups come election time.
davenp35 on August 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I heard it, and I’m pretty sure he was focusing specifically on Lieberman. Limbaugh is a Rudy friend and fan.
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Doesn’t matter to me but matters to most.
RobCon on August 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Does McCain really not understand that one liberal on the ticket is already almost more than most of us can stand?
EJDolbow on August 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Don’t speculate everyone… this is like a rat running thru a maze.
upinak on August 19, 2008 at 3:28 PM
McCain has been listening and following Rush’s advice since Operation Chaos with fantastic results. He would be dumber than dirt to pick a pro-choice running mate. Hillary voters are going to vote for Obama, no matter what. If Obama can’t make these folks happy, sure as the age spots on his forehead, McCain can’t.
Angry Dumbo on August 19, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Domains registrations tell us nothing. A domain name cost a few bucks to register and anybody can do it.
A pro-choice candidate does not guarantee defeat, being John McCain does. His “maverick” days will haunt him until the end.
The Race Card on August 19, 2008 at 3:29 PM
McCain, you better choose Palin. She is interesting and not a “boring, white guy” such as Newt would put it.
Conservative, pro-life, lifelong member of the NRA, has a son in the military serving overseas, pro-drilling in ANWR, and has executive experience.
jencab on August 19, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I love Rush, but he is full of shit on this one. Maybe he is just helping out McCain though.
Conservatives need to get over it. McCain is the Republican nominee and he is not a conservative. He doesn’t want the Republican Party to be a conservative-only party anymore. His VP pick is the automatic front runner in the next open election and he isn’t going to elevate a hardcore conservative into that spot. He just isn’t.
I’m also damned tired of abortion being the end-all issue for conservatives, ESPECIALLY when it comes to McCain’s running mate. Good grief, we’ve had 8 years of the most conservative Administration since Herbert Hoover, and last time I looked abortion was still legal. John McCain’s running mate won’t make one iota of difference in the number of abortions in America or worldwide in the next 8 years, and he won’t be picking McCain’s judicial nominees. So what the hell is the big deal??? McCain isn’t a George H.W. Bush who needs to demonstrate his own pro-life bona fides. He has a 100% pro-life voting record.
rockmom on August 19, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Check out this pic:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080108/content/01125110.guest.html
Rudy brings a whole lot of executive experience to the table. He’s also delivers a great speech. And dammit, I wanna see him debate Joe Biden.
But that pic (that Limbaugh posted less than 3 weeks ago) is beautiful.
Limbaugh, The Arnold, and Rudy … bringing CA in for McCain? LOL
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Yeah. That one has been around. There’s now Task Force Palin which links about of the pro-Palin sites together.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Rush needs to understand that he is becoming increasingly irrelevant. A few months ago he would have said a McCain nomination guarantees defeat.
crr6 on August 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM
If McCain does something this stupid and he does it before the Convention, I wonder if the delegates will vote for somebody other than McCain.
EJDolbow on August 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Rush has more supporters than John McCain.
EJDolbow on August 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Note to any McCain campaign staffers who might read this thread: all the people hating on a possible pro-choice VP have already said, ad nauseum, that they will never vote for McCain anyway.
swing for the fences. Pick Rudy.
but Pawlenty or Romney or Sanford would also be fine :-)
Palin is a lovely lady, but isn’t quite ready for prime time.
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM
OT: Governor Palin, class act
Baby shower for Trig Palin to benefit soldiers
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Rush is spot on! The lamestream press is trying to talk McNumbnuts into this one because they know Obama is in trouble!
sabbott on August 19, 2008 at 3:34 PM
I wouldn’t mind Lieberman as much if he weren’t already a proven loser
tomas on August 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM
A McCain/Kennedy bill guarantees defeat.A McCain/Feingold bill guarantees defeat.A McCain/Lieberman bill guarantees defeat.Praising Al Gore guarantees defeat.Praising Nancy Pelosi guarantees defeat.Saying that ANWAR is as pristine as the Grand Canyon guarantees defeat.A pro-choice VP guarantees defeat.
MB4 on August 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Right, evangelicals will flock to an infanticidist like Obama, over a solid pro-life McCain if McCain has the temerity to pick a pro-choice federalist who vows to pick conservative judges for VP, like Rudy, and apparently now Lieberman too. I do not buy it. They are stuck with Mac.
This is just an empty threat to see if the far right can force McCain to make a decision that he does not want to make
tommylotto on August 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
I could vote for a pro-choice veep if he or she had conservative beliefs in other areas. As much as I admire Joe Lieberman, though, it would be really tough to support a ticket with him on it. He’s simply a doctrinaire liberal on every issue but the war.
Slublog on August 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
McCain was hardly electable to begin with.
spmat on August 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
With a $400 million salary, Rush is no where near being irrelevant.
Sure, he said what he said — months ago — but McCain is who we’re stuck with.
For months now, stuck with McCain, conservatives have put their hopes in McCain at least picking someone conservative.
So, actually, Rush is right! If he picks a pro-choice running mate, he will alienate the remaining conservatives who are already tedious about him.
Rudy did piss poor in the primaries; there is no reason for McCain to pick him.
Stick with Mitt!
ToddonCapeCod on August 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
I seem to remember something from 2000 about how a President and Vice Presidential nominee could not be from the same state…
Of course, Hillary could claim to be from anywhere…
gridlock2 on August 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Dear Lord…….Please let it be a head fake.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM
There’s a support group for her over at facebook using the same flag image and email sarah.palin@elections.facebook.com 1433 individuals joined up as supporters so far. I see on the front page that Ruffini is one of them.
Not a lot of activity there yet, although I’ve noticed quite a bit in other places coming from very serious campaigners.
Connie on August 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM
It isn’t an “issue” it is the wholesale murder of innocent human beings.
You will surely be welcome in the Democrat party were they think it is an “issue” and not a life as well.
EJDolbow on August 19, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Good Ol’ Joe Lieberman
Heh. Yeah, I’ve never heard of this “Operation Chaos,” have you? My radio show is on over 600 stations, and I’m sure yours is too. And I’ve been on the air for at least 20 years, and I know you have too.
Do you have any idea how stupid you come across when you say that Rush is irrelevant? He is absolutely worshipped in the radio industry: “He saved radio.”
Dislike him, disagree with him, but you’re only revealing your own stupidity when you make comments like that.
misterpeasea on August 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Several sources at the RNC told FOX News that in the last 36 hours, senior McCain advisers and aides have told RNC officials that McCain “got the message” last week that choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights would not be helpful.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/19/rnc-mccain-wont-choose-abortion-supporting-running-mate/
bnelson44 on August 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Not all conservatives.
Yes it is. And if Obama gets in and replaces outgoing supreme court justices with pro-abortion appointees, then when do you think Roe V Wade has a chance of being overturned?
Which is more important to you, McCain’s pick of VP, or President Obama’s actions if he is elected.
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Conservatives need to get over it. McCain is the Republican nominee and he is not a conservative.
Yeah, I know that.
And here we come back to the crux of the matter. If a significant portion of the conservative base refuses to vote for Johnny Mac, he doesn’t win.
Let’s face it, if my choices are liberal and liberaller and my federal House and Senate races are moot points, then what motivation do I have to even show up and vote?
Guess what? I’m not real motivated. But not to worry, I’m sure Obama will be opening is big yap momentarily to remind me that he needs to be as far from the controls of power as is possible.
I R A Darth Aggie on August 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Yep. Rush, Coulter and Malkin shouldn’t be trying to be kingmakers.
a capella on August 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
I’m a pro-choice McCain supporter, but picking Lieberman would be stupid, and basically would be setting McCain up to lose.
If he picks Joe L, I’ll be back to holding my nose to vote for McCain, but millions of solid Republicans won’t be able to cross that line.
Rudy is the only pro-choice VP nominee worth the effort to calm strong pro-lifers.
Oh, and guys? Ixnay on the Limbaugh AytredHay. he was speaking specifically about Lieberman, and I agree with him on this one.
C’mon, look at the pretty picture, and imagine a McCain/Giuliani ticket. Limbaugh and Santorum would be on board big time. Can you say landslide?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080108/content/01125110.guest.html
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
That was my thought. The Conservatives will now let out a collective sigh of relief if its only Rudy…
tommylotto on August 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Limbaugh making that much money doesn’t make him politically relevant, it just makes him a huge celebrity. Oprah has had more of an influence on the 2008 election than Rush Limbaugh. McCain easily secured the GOP nomination despite having calling Limbaugh a clown, and then apologizing to clowns for the comparsion. America has grown up, Limbaugh will continue to earn more and more money, and garnish less and less influence.
crr6 on August 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM
McCain could not possibly be stupid enough to pick Lieberman.
The only thing worse than a McCain/Lierberman ticket would be a McCain/Feingold ticket.
You can figure out why. It’s basically a reminder of him backstabbing conservatives on every single lawn sign in America.
BKennedy on August 19, 2008 at 3:45 PM
garnish=garner
crr6 on August 19, 2008 at 3:47 PM
It depends on who the person is. I just want McCain to win and I think he has to go towards the center to do that.
ninjapirate on August 19, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Like he ‘got the message’ regarding amnesty??
Talk is cheap.
Darksean on August 19, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Oh my. More like this please. People with less and less influence always earn more and more money, don’t they? I can tell you, I have zero influence, and I’m getting paid more than Rush by multiple sources.
Step away from the keyboard until the stupidity passes.
misterpeasea on August 19, 2008 at 3:48 PM
The fact that they haven’t yet is really all the proof you need that a pro-choicer would lose this election for McCain.
I don’t care who you want to blame it on, but McCain can’t win if he’s pissed off all the conservatives in the party. And considering that it’s Obama’s own horrible record on abortion that has convinced many of the need to stick with McCain, having a pro-choicer VP will screw that up royally.
Personally, abortion is a big deal for me. In 2000 I was almost a single issue voter because of it, which isn’t to say that it was the only reason I voted. It’s just the one I cared enough about to actually go vote.
Even still, I don’t care who McCain elects. If I can vote for him this election it won’t be because he’s done anything to deserve it but rather than Obama has done so much to deserve losing.
With a pro-choicer VP, our only hope would be that Obama does something else to torpedo his campaign.
Esthier on August 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Oprah doesn’t affect jack in electoral politics because only a small percentage of Oprah viewers vote, whereas nearly every Limbaugh listener votes. Anyone vapid enough to watch Oprah regularly was already going to vote for The Chosen One, assuming they tore themselves from Oprah and soaps on election day. Demographically, Oprah preaches to the choir.
BKennedy on August 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
What is with McCain constanting trying to PO the Repub Conserv base? I just don’t understand this guy. Here is a letter I included with the request for funds from a mail survey.
VikingGoneWild on August 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
That is correct. Anyone who disagrees, maybe it’s time to take a look at some of our fellow human beings who have been murdered in this way. NSFW. but do not turn your eyes away.
RushBaby on August 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Total headfake. They’re just trying to stir up speculation. If McCain came out and said, “Pawlenty,” that would be a 30-second blip on the news, and then back to all-Obama, all-the-time. I’ve never seen such one-sided coverage in my whole life, and I’m old as dirt.
Ali-Bubba on August 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
That argument might be even more potent coming from someone who is pro-choice, like Lieberman. (How did Lieberman come down on that bill?)
DaveS on August 19, 2008 at 3:50 PM
McCain is Limbaugh’s b@#&!. Funny.
sandman on August 19, 2008 at 3:50 PM
McCain is not going to win is he picks a pro-abortion candidate. That is what I am concerned about.
EJDolbow on August 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Personally I don’t care if McCain’s VP pick is pro-abortion, because the Vice President doesn’t set policy like that. Yeah, I suppose President McCain could always kneel over and leave an abortion supporter in the White House, but as much as I am pro-life I also feel like there are bigger issues right now, namely national security.
The worst thing about Liebs as VP — while I have nothing against the guy, and actually have come to quite like him on a number of issues — is the bad taste in my mouth that comes from our taking Algore’s leavings.
Another ‘boring white guy’ in the VP slot, whether it be Pawlenty or Romney or whoever, won’t kill the ticket, but it won’t give it the ‘oomph’ it needs at this point in the campaign.
salmonczar on August 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Lieberman would be a great cabinet secretary (assuming that the Senate gets 45 or more Democratic seats, such that Lieberman’s departure from the Senate would not change the calculus any) but I would not put him up for VP. Remember, if the VP has to take over as President, that means we would essentially have elected a Democrat… Not good, even though Lieberman is on the outs with the Democratic party at this time.
Looks to me like Pawlenty is probably the wisest choice for McCain right now.
Outlander on August 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Q: How do you take the media attention off the big DNC convention with all the flash and dog & pony shows?
A: Create a malstrom of confusion by leaking lots of stories about who McCain’s running mate is going to be. Make sure you throw in a Democrat, a pro-life Republican, a pro-choice Republican, one former mayor, and lots of other garbage. Keep making leaks over the next week.
Vincenzo on August 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
It’s Update-palooza!
heh…I’ll wait for:
Update: It’s official, Crist is VP!
JetBoy on August 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
.
This just screams fake, or at least head fake.
Think_b4_speaking on August 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Deeds, not words, Grandpa. Don’t underestimate the base’s ability to cut off its nose to spite its jowly, pockmarked, pro-Amnesty, aisle-crossing face.
Spanglemaker on August 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Interesting. And some think that he needs to go more to the right.
Keeping in mind that very close elections are won or lost by moderates and undecided voters in the center, I tend to agree with you. But you can’t discount the wrath of the extreme right, as is abundantly clear here. I wonder how much of a gain or a loss it will be, if he goes center or right.
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Oprah may very well have won Obama the Democratic primary. Did Limbaugh do the same for McCain?
crr6 on August 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
That would be nice if he picks a pro abortion VP…then all of us Christians and conservatives could finally leave the republican party in enough numbers to form a viable third party!
SaintOlaf on August 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Lieberman could not have voted on it. It was an Illinoise state bill.
cozmo on August 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Whats going on guys? Fall in line or else you might as well just vote for Obama. Don’t you see? Complaining about this possibility now will only damage the McCain/Lieberman ticket once it comes to fruition. So shhhhhhhh! Just be quiet and go pull the lever when you’re told to.
People its JOHN MCCAIN! Of course he’s going to stab conservatives in the back. Thats what he does. Thats why lefties like him. Would anybody be surprised in the least when he picks Lieberman to be VP? I won’t be. Hell, I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t.
One things for sure though. 10 minutes after he announces Lieberman to be his VP 99% of the commenters here will put the blinders back on and continue marching proudly with the McCain/Lieberman ticket.
Zetterson on August 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
And what if he picks a pro-abortion VP, and does win. And the pro-abortion VP has no say on McCain’s nomination of supreme court nominees?
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
We’ll just take over the constitution party this fall and nominate Ron Paul for the win!
SaintOlaf on August 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM
I don’t know if anyone posted this here yet, but NRO The Corner posted this old article on Joe Lieberman yesterday. The guy is as slimey and leftist as Obama basically (except for on the war effort). It would be a total and utter disaster to have him on the GOP ticket.
Ostracized, but Orthodox Dem
Michael in MI on August 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Obambi is ripe for the picking on energy, abortion and on taxes. What more does McAMNESTY need?
tarpon on August 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Uh, if that happens, about 80% will promise to defeat the great traitor McCain.
Would be my guess. If their daily postings are of any indication.
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Abortion 24/7. Dumb ass issue.
mylegsareswollen on August 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Is McCain unable to think beyond this election cycle? What if he picks Lieberman and happens to win? There is no way the GOP is going to support Joe for POTUS in 2012 so McCain would have screwed us again since he wold have blown the chance to groom his replacement. WTF is wrong with the guy?
DerKrieger on August 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM
You actually WATCH the news?
Personally, I watch a little of the Fox morning show as I get ready for work, and occasionally catch a little of Bill-O in the evenings when I’m not busy doing other things. Other than that I ACTIVELY ignore the rest of the MSM and get the other 98% of my news and commentary from Hot Air, Newsmax, Drudge, WorldNetDaily, Flopping Aces, AtlasShrugs, Plumbobblog, Lileks.com, Rachellucas.com,Free Republic, Gateway Pundit, LGF, Newsbusters, PJM and Rush Limbaugh. To name a small sampling. (and not always in that order either.)
Frankly, I find that I am better informed on a wider variety of topics than most people I talk to that religiously watch “CNN” and their ilk. With the lone exception of the “celebrity gossip” topic. I have to admit I’m woefully uninformed on that particular subject.
wearyman on August 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Please. It’s NOT Lieberman. It’s just stupid to keep speculating that it is.
If it’s Ridge, McCain is an idiot. He doesn’t need someone to complement his foreign affairs cred.
Palin, Mitt, Rudy, even Huck (yuck) are acceptable. McCain is not stupid enough to blow his chances on a bad VP pick. he knows how important this is.
JustTruth101 on August 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Since CNN is involved: Obama’s team is probably involved to try to get McCain’s numbers down going into the Dem convention.
bnelson44 on August 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM
It sure is 24/7…for the dead people.
RushBaby on August 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM
cozmo on August 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
But there was federal legislation addressing the same issue… and if I recall, it was pretty much unanimously supported. Liebs could say “I support a woman’s choice to make those difficult decisions, but Sen. Obama’s position is so far removed from that of the civilized world that I can’t relate to it.”
DaveS on August 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM
McCain/Limbaugh!
bridgetown on August 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM
No. That about sums it up. Wholly fooked!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Romney for VP!! Pick Romney!!!
Rudy for AG.
Liberman for Sec.
There…that is better.
Winebabe on August 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Ridge is as inspiring as heart patient diet mashed potatoes. blech, no flavor.
If you’re gonna go pro-choice, it’s gotta be Rudy.
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Rudy can be AG and Liebs can be Sec. of Defense….just give us a Pro-Life VP please
jp on August 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I’m pro-life and I think he should pick whoever will help him win.
ninjapirate on August 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
now THAT is a ticket I could get behind!
Too bad Rush would never take the pay cut. :(
wearyman on August 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
There’s no reason that this would be an automatic. He can run in the republican primary as an independent, and the voters can pick him or anyone else they choose. Lieberman would not automatically get the nomination.
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
I agree, I it’s pro-choice then pick Rudy the attack dog.
mylegsareswollen on August 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Actually, he would probably pick up far more votes than he would lose. I know a lot of fairly lefty people who would probably vote for McCain over Obama if they thought he wasn’t a hardcore ideologue on that issue.
I don’t care either way, since I realize that the President’s position doesn’t really matter on abortion, let alone the VP, and I think all of you making a big deal about the VP’s position on abortion are looking pretty silly.
DaveS on August 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Rudy knows his stuff. He’s highly personable and could debate the devil himself (and probably defeat him). I’m completely undecided myself. There are many (maybe too many) Dems who listened to Chrissy “Thrillboy” Matthews and took up the “Lieberman is a traitor” mantra and who might vote Obama just because McCain picked Lieberman. So positives and negatives there. Romney is a smart guy, but I’m not sure he would generate enough excitement now and that’s what McCain needs. I’m not going to go through the whole list.
Connie on August 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Yep. Yet another attempt (and apparently a successful one) to get conservatives to wail and gnash their teeth in public and hate on our nominee.
Sadly, it’s all they have left, since McCain’s gonna fight their race baiting tooth and nail.
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Umm, read the article I posted from NRO. Lieberman is as leftist and slimey as Obama, based on his horrible campaigning as Gore’s running mate in 2000. This is about a LOT more than just abortion.
Michael in MI on August 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Does he really think we won’t leave and take over the constitution party?
I hope he is mavericky enough to try it..
SaintOlaf on August 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM
I can’t help but wonder where we would be if Mitt were the nominee. I recall a particular youtube of Romney saying he would fight to protect a womans right to have an abortion. And if he chose McCain for veep would the “real” conservatives have turned against Mitt?
myamphibian on August 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Wow, ten days of lowering my electron count and I come back and the top story is the same story it was on the ninth.
I’m ready to just go ahead and vote and get this over with so we can start gobsmacking 2012.
Limerick on August 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Maverick seems determined to maverick his way right back to his Senator-for-life position. Anyone thinking that abortion is not a major, yes MAJOR, issue in this election is delusional. Obama’s horrible stance on that issue (like, oh… bordering on infanticide) gives McCain a huge club to bludgeon him with. It’s called politics Mav. Picking Ridge or Liebs is pure idiocy. But you go ‘head Mav. You don’t take directions from nobody, does ya?
Sugar Land on August 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
I’m sick of this crap. What does putting out all these feelers for what people have told him repeatedly are unacceptable choices do besides only piss people off?
Blake on August 19, 2008 at 4:07 PM
No there’s a great idea! What could they go after him for? Drug use? Nah, Obama paved the way for that one. Even cited it as his “biggest moral failure” the other night, iirc.
RushBaby on August 19, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Huck, Leiberman, and Ridge are all equally bad picks, IMHO.
shudder
even Crist is better, and I don’t like Crist at all.
Rudy! McCain/Giuliani ‘08. Landslide!
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 4:07 PM
I noticed you were scarce around here, and missed you.
RushBaby on August 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM
if Lieberman were pick, in debate what would they debate other than Foreign Policy?
jp on August 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
New job eating me up. Bills keep coming no matter who is elected.
Limerick on August 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
And since then, the left kicked him out of the democrat party. While Lieberman is still think democrat in heart, the democrat party has moved further left over the years.
Obama and Lieberman are no where near the same. And just because Lieberman was Gore’s running mate, does not make him “slimey.”
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Slublog on August 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Bingo.
McCain has donesome good stuff over the last few weeks to make his pill a bit less bitter.
If McCain picks Lieberman, he’s done. I know it’s just speculation and not true, but if it were to happen – stick the fork in.
I also could vote for a pro-choice VP IF, IF the creds were solidly conservative in other areas, but it would depend on the how “nuanced” the pro-choice stance was.
McCain picking a Democrat as running mate would make a lot of people ignore his box in the booth…
catmman on August 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
My thinking all along has been that this is blowing smoke in order to gin up suspense, interest and publicity. My best guess (and hope) is that if we are hearing names, especially controversial picks, then its likely they are not the ones. Obviously there is competition going on, between both camps to ramp up speculation as much as possible. My great hope is that it will be a pick for the future of the party, and hopefully go by the name of Palin.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on August 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM
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