Biden ‘88 ad: The White House is no place to learn on the job; Update: Sources tell Fineman Biden’s the “likely” pick
posted at 12:05 pm on August 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Comedy gold courtesy of Ben Smith to mark Halperin’s heavy-handed hint this morning that Greasy Joe’s the one for The One (re: Halperin’s “Bo knows” allusion, note that Biden’s son is named Beau). Between this, his assorted nuanced pensees on race, and his tweaking of Barry O for being less curious about NATO’s role in Afghanistan than a subcommittee chairman should be, the RNC will have loads of fun with him. What makes the ad interesting is that after the first 30 seconds or so, it eases into a strikingly Obama-esque message: Presidency as “pulpit,” the world’s “lost confidence in us,” the same swill they’ve been selling forever as a touchy-feely alternative to Republican hawks. But what’s that bit at the end that “If the sparks fly, so be it”? Doesn’t sound very Hopenchangey to me.
Update: Grease-y is the word, says Howard Fineman:
Within the last few hours I’ve spoken with two of the finalists for the role of Barack Obama’s running-mate, and to two other sources who are close to the process.
My bottom line is this: Barring a big surprise or last-minute change of heart, the choice is likely to be Sen. Joe Biden of Deleware, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee…
“If I had to bet my life on it, I’d bet it is Joe,” said one of the other contenders.
Said another, “Barack is moving toward a seasoned Beltway type, and that probably means Biden.”
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Obama spoke to the VFW Convention in Orlando this morning, and the only Democrat he mentioned by name was Biden.
Biden is polling higher than the other Dem VP choices. Is tied with “anyone else.”
If Biden gets the VP nod…this ad has got to be picked up by the RNC and they’ve got to run with it.
Two birds. One stone. Sweet.
coldwarrior on August 19, 2008 at 12:12 PM
What the hell was he talking about in 1988? Was he seriously claiming that Ronald Reagan had hurt America’s status in the world?? Just wow.
rockmom on August 19, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Wow. “The world is losing hope in America” meme has been around a long time for Democrats, no?
Hoodlumman on August 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM
From the debates:
Should be a fun summer.
amerpundit on August 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Ready! Get set! GO!!!! Fun times ahead I think.
jeanie on August 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Biden - a self promoting, sanctimonious gas bag. Ugh, what a loser.
DerKrieger on August 19, 2008 at 12:15 PM
He probably heard Neil Kinnock saying it.
infidel65 on August 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM
wish I could see the video.
sighs
upinak on August 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Freedom and Equality are opposing ideas.
If you have freedom there will be inequality and if there is equality there can be no freedom.
EJDolbow on August 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Obama/Biden ‘08: plagiarizer’s of a feather stick together
gash on August 19, 2008 at 12:17 PM
“And let me plagiarize form a speech by British Labour Party Leader Neil Kinnock, a total loser.”
Hilts on August 19, 2008 at 12:18 PM
But you have to remember, he’s from a (former) slave state. He’ll be able to relate to da peoples. Also, don’t forget that you can’t go into a 7-11/Dunkin’ Donuts without a slight Indian accent.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
A lot of liberals cite Obama’s inexperience - err, “openness” as a reason to vote for him. They don’t know what he stands for and that is what makes Obama ideal for the whitehouse.
They’re liberals, it doesn’t have to make sense.
I hope independents pick up on this and realize the danger that is the Big O.
Grafted on August 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Biden:
He’s clean enough. He’s articulate enough. Gosh darnit, I’ll be his VP.
lorien1973 on August 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
No new politics. Sorry.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I’m not sure we’re lucky enough for it to be Biden.
bj1126 on August 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Oh please please please please please please please
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Does that ticket have room enough for two self promoting, sanctimonious gas bags?
crazy_legs on August 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I love how Biden was saying we have lost our standing in the world back in 1988. So if we lost so much standing under Reagan, and then gained it all back because we were victims on 9/11, I guess the best thing to bring it back would be, what, another 9/11?
If it’s Obama/Biden, the GOP can just run this ad followed by a generic McCain ad. Victory would be guaranteed.
indythinker on August 19, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Smug/Plugs ‘08!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Is Obama looking for “Gravitas?”
PappaMac on August 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM
If he’s the pick…
I’m switching from popcorn to champagne!
MamaAJ on August 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM
With Biden, republicans can really fan the flames of the hillary voters.
Here’s McCain’s campaign commercial during the dnc convention:
LOL.
lorien1973 on August 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Doesn’t matter who did what when, they use the same playbook every election. Just words.
CP on August 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Nice… this is funny.
upinak on August 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Tough question.
The kind the Messiah does not answer.
tree hugging sister on August 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM
They’d better change the venue for the final night of the Convention.
One sanctimonious gas bag plus one empty suit.
I’d hate to have to witness a Messianic moment as Obama joins hands with Biden and is elevated into the night sky…
coldwarrior on August 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Name one respected Dem statesman. If you can, then find one dumb enough to associate with this Obama.
That leaves Biden, Bayh, Kerry, and Wesley Clark.
We’d be lucky with any.
JiangxiDad on August 19, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Everybody else said no.
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Does this mean we will get weeks of the MSM
telling us about gravitas now?
cozmo on August 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Rick on August 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM
America wasn’t what it used to be back then either….was it ever what it used to be?
drjohn on August 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM
You know, the rats always run to the top of the ship before abandoning. Jussayin’.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM
What? Biden?
Low hanging fruit! Exactly how many states can he carry?
Disclaimer: I live in Wilmington, DE
Sir Napsalot on August 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Imagine a Biden - Giuliani debate. Or a Biden - Pawlenty debate. Or a Biden - Romey debate.
LOL
funky chicken on August 19, 2008 at 12:30 PM
On policy, I think I’m very close to Biden (as well as Obama), with a few notable exceptions. But come on, Biden is a blowhard. He is much more crass than Bush and Cheney could ever hope to be.
Seixon on August 19, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Hmmm one empty suit.. and a gas bag. If you add pressure and keep it warm, you might get some Methane out of this.
upinak on August 19, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Joe Biden? “Plagiarism” Joe Biden? Joe Biden, he of the Indian Donut shop joke?
This is gonna be great.
john1schn on August 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Wow. I really didn’t think the Obama campaign could be as stupid as to pick someone as bad as Biden, but now…
I mean, let’s forget Joe’s plagiarism, his run-on mouth, or the fact that he doesn’t know a quarter as much about foreign affairs as his ego tells him. This man is the author of the single worst idea of the Iraq campaign: partitioning Iraq into ethnic enclaves after they had voted on a constitution and had sovereignty restored. The mind boggles at the humanitarian and geopolitical disaster that would have resulted, not to mention the sheer arrogance of the idea of carving up a sovereign ally.
And he’s the Prophet Barack’s likely choice?
Wow.
irishspy on August 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Been watching alot of blogging heads tv since I was turned on to it by instapundit. Really interesting. But I just watched Rosa Brooks and Timothy Noah. Wow. Two Obama supporters who aren’t stupid but have nothing to say. Russia is evil but it’s our fault that they invaded Georgia, but again they are evil.But no alternatives, just Repubs are stupid.
It reminded me of Biden. A smart guy, with no solutions, just complaints and 20/20 critique.(Except maybe a few years ago when he said we should break Iraq up into 3 different countries- great idea Joe)I say bring him on. Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll call his running mate “clean” and “well spoken” again.
Dems are all empty suits I think. I know it won’t happen because of the pro-life thing, but I would love to see Rudy and Joe in a VP debate and watch Joe get crushed.
tottoritodd on August 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I think you could take that voice over, drop in a series of clips form the Surge in Iraq and have a damn good McCain ad.
Stephen Macklin on August 19, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Under the bus. Biden never stops talking and Barry is tongue tied without a script. A ticket gaffe potential of ANWR magnitude.
a capella on August 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM
The opportunity to finally vote for a candidate running against Biden is truly sweet.
Hening on August 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM
The only thing Biden is good for is as an antidote for a possible Giuliani VP. I personally know many Democrats who view Biden’s crassness and smart-aleck attitude as evidence of street-smarts and intelligence, and as a very “familiar” and likeable type of wise-guy found in the streets of places like NY.
Part of Giuliani’s appeal to these same people was that he was a more refined version of that.
JiangxiDad on August 19, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Also, don’t forget that you can’t go into a 7-11/Dunkin’ Donuts without a slight Indian accent.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Actually as an Indian I find the statement flattering. The implication is of course that Indian Americans as a group are hard working and law abiding.
Gaurav on August 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Smart-alec, not smart. Also, this is precisely what the left can’t see about Biden. They can’t see through him, because he is smarter than they are, but hardly smart. If he’s chosen, the left will absolutely love it, and so will the media.
JiangxiDad on August 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Biden was impressed that a black guy (Obama) was actually articulate. Now, that guy could be his boss? Sweet.
Think_b4_speaking on August 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM
This race is the gift that keeps on giving. More Biden please!!!!
HawaiiLwyr on August 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Racial stereotyping is OK with you? Can I go see what the WOPs are having for a special at the local spaghetti joint?
Just a reminder…
Why The Media Excuse Joe Biden’s Racism
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM
It’s not about what he said. It’s about daring to make a generality about a group. Dems don’t let people do that anymore–they cry that it’s racist. But they can do it on occasion, because they don’t have to follow their own rules, and because White Dems see themselves as protectors of you little brown people.
JiangxiDad on August 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Thinkb4speaking said it better than I did.
The point is, Biden is a racist, because he has low expectations of others, and believes special people like he are needed to help you. Yuck.
JiangxiDad on August 19, 2008 at 12:46 PM
“Every time Joe Biden smiles, an American Taxpayer gets screwed!”
– “It’s A Wonderful Life”, revised
mojo on August 19, 2008 at 12:52 PM
sorry, absolutely correct. It’s just that my liberal friends think that using big words and naming world leaders correctly makes one smart.
I forgot I’m on a conservative site,(therefore thinking) and to my detriment my only
semi-intelligentconversation these days is in a small Japanese town with recent college graduatestottoritodd on August 19, 2008 at 12:53 PM
is this the right pick for obama? “that question is above my pay grade” sorry
custer on August 19, 2008 at 12:53 PM
New Campaign Sign.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Well as an Indian if the only options available are being stereotyped as working the ass off in Dunkin Donuts and having an accent or eating Monkey brains, I will pick the former.
Well I am not an expert on American social etiquettes but I believe it is still possible to stereotype some group, for example southerners, reg. Indian Americans I believe that though a minority it is still possible to take comparatively liberty with them, for one they are relatively well off ( and unlike no history of persecution unlike Jewish Americans), and second as Hindus they are the last significant group of idolaters and hence alien to the common monotheist experience.
By the way, apology for hijacking the thread, please resume the discussion on Biden.
Gaurav on August 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM
More of Obama’s “new kind of politics”? A Beltway insider. A long-time Washington politician who has never done anything to solve the problems that the Left likes to bitch and moan about? Great choice, Barry.
AZCoyote on August 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Joe Biden gets the Neil Kinnock vote!
Way to double down on detachment with middle America.
Frankly, as crazy as it might sound at this stage, Obama might be desperate enough to add energy to his ticket with a surprise pick of Clinton as VP. It would solidify the base and increase his chances in some of the swing states. The media would go ga-ga over the head fake and pick.
It would certainly have a Hollywood look and feel to the process, something he and his crew seem to appreciate.
I just suspect he’s going to try a gimmick to put a little gas in his tank.
moxie_neanderthal on August 19, 2008 at 1:02 PM
How many times has Biden run for Prez and gotten nowhere? When you say to a total loser “you’re a total loser!” they reply “Not really. Compared to Joe Biden, I’m pretty cool.”
Put him on the ticket!
innominatus on August 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM
NYT from 1987
Biden Admits Plagiarism in School But Says It Was Not ‘Malevolent’
And they rag on McCain for his position in his class? He’s as qualified as John Kerry.
These two are meant for each other.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 1:08 PM
I was just about to pop a samosa into the microwave. Many of my neighbors are away in India for the summer, but I still have a few left in the freezer.
JiangxiDad on August 19, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Appropriate campaign sign.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM
.
I hope you mean the samosas are in the freezer, and not the relatives…
Think_b4_speaking on August 19, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I once shot an elephant in my pajamas… :-)
Gaurav on August 19, 2008 at 1:18 PM
please, please, please pick this dolt.
james23 on August 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM
If Biden’s the pick, this will be great!
eanax on August 19, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Hairplugging, plagiarizering, loony, lying, worthless jackass for VP.
Perfect choice, ‘bambi.
The Poster Chump for the Democrat Party, Biden.
You’re sure to carry Delaware now.
NoDonkey on August 19, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Boy they must want to loose real bad. Biden. Heh.
ronsfi on August 19, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Personally, I think everyone should STOP THIS INSTANT giving Obama a preview of why we LURVE the idea of Biden.
tree hugging sister on August 19, 2008 at 1:28 PM
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
~Joe Biden in The New York Observer
I guess Joe figured that since condescension is a big word, only Barack and a few other uppity blacks would understand.
YouTube videos could have a field day with this.
moxie_neanderthal on August 19, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Oh Gawd, one guy would say “uh…ummm…yeahhhhh…uhhhh…” for thirty minutes while the other wouldn’t ever shut up.
Bishop on August 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM
heh…hair plugs!
I guess that would be Biden’s reward for calling Obama the first clean black in politics.
wildweasel on August 19, 2008 at 1:33 PM
I’m waiting for the 527 “Uppity Blacks For Biden”
_____________
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
~Joe Biden in The New York Observer
moxie_neanderthal on August 19, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Wonderful ticket:
A liar and a plagarist.
D2Boston on August 19, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Joe Biden
“A President has got to know the territory”
“But thats not enough”
“To win the White House the Democratic nominee
must have a crysral clear vision of what the
Democratic Party stands for,
of what the dreams is and how we keep it alive.”
“Joe Biden see’s the President as a pulpit from
which America sets an example for the world”
” Joe Biden thinks it time to remind the world of
what America stands for ,Freedom,Equality,Justice
Oppurtunity,he thinks its time to put courage over
compromise to express America’s outrage once again
towards repression,brutality,violence and abuse of
human dignity around the world,
and if the sparks fly so be it.”
Well Joe,what the h#LL happened!
canopfor on August 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Crockaganda!!!!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 19, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Oops,that should be cystal,not crysral! Ugh.
canopfor on August 19, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Well. SOMEBODY’s got to make Barry look good.
My collie says:
We can only hope.
CyberCipher on August 19, 2008 at 1:43 PM
I can just see the VP debate:
Moderator: Sen. Biden, you said during the primary campaign that Sen. Obama was not ready to be president, and that it is not an on the job learning place, is Sen. Obama ready now to be president, and if he now is, at what point during the campaign did he become ready?
Biden: Um. Ooh, Um. Ahh. Arrgh! I want it still!
ConservativePartyNow on August 19, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Crockaganda!!!!!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on Aug 19,2008 at 1:41PM.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac. : Love it, hehe,I’m awaiting the
Hippty hippty hop train to
(NO) Hopen’s ville! haha.
canopfor on August 19, 2008 at 1:48 PM
O/T,Rush is on a role,played a Obama montage of
“ah,um ah um ah um ah am”,a full eight minutes
out of a forty minutes talking to the press!
haha.
canopfor on August 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Umm,ooh ah…..
ConservativePartyNow on Aug 19,2008 at 1:46PM.
ConservativeNowParty: Must be standard Lib o speak!:)
Haha.
canopfor on August 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Somehow, I have a sinking feeling this is a head fake by Barry. The GOP voters get all giggly and giddy over the prospects of Biden, and then he throws the changeup, low and outside,…..Hillary!! The giggles change to gulps.
a capella on August 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Flashback from Biden, who presided over the Clarence Thomas hearings:
“I think that the only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black. I don’t believe he could have won had he been white.”
Paging Geraldine Ferraro…
Buy Danish on August 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Yep. Agreed.
moxie_neanderthal on August 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Unless your the Obama-messiah
RobCon on August 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM
LOL, plagiarizer Joe teaming up with Fauxbama = FAKE DUO
byteshredder on August 19, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Obama probably thinks Biden will shore up his cred with Catholics … it’s just that Biden is the same brand of anti-life, lukewarm, Catholic-in-name-only, as Kennedy, Kerry, Sibelius, Boxer, Pelosi. Being pro-life is the reason, the serious reason, why most fervent Catholics voted for Bush instead of Kerry.
marybel on August 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Paging Geraldine Ferrao…
Buy Danish on Aug 19,2008 at 2:03PM.
Buy Danish: During Clarence(coke can accusations by Anita
Hill)Thomas hearings,wasn’t Biden really
tough on Clarence!
Can you dig up that video,of Bidens(Spanish
Inquisition)of Clarence Thomas?:)
canopfor on August 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM
I would find it hard to believe that BO would pick one of the least likeable people on the planet.Not really.
I guess he is doubling down on the egomaniac vote.
Biden has one mode- loud- mouthed punk.
Do it Barry!
jjshaka on August 19, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Here’s the transcript, but it’s Orrin Hatch who asked those specific questions, not Biden.
Buy Danish on August 19, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Is it my imagination or did he look a little like Steve Carell? Because “incompetent manager” might not be the image he wants to portray.
JS on August 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM
So Captain Xerox is back in play? Oh, for the days before google and Lexis-Nexis- his speeches will suffer greatly.
lionheart on August 19, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Fits Obama quite well, don’t you think? Thanks to Hillary on that one as well.
wise_man on August 19, 2008 at 3:23 PM
I almost forgot what Joe looked like before his hair transplant.
saiga on August 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM
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