Team Obama whispers: McCain cheated at Saddleback
posted at 11:57 am on August 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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And they knew just the right reporter to whisper to, didn’t they? It’s true that Maverick wasn’t in the “cone of silence” when Warren said he was, but then he didn’t need to be — he already knew the hardest questions beforehand. As did Barack Obama, according to Politico:
So it turns out that Pastor Rick Warren, in an effort to increase the candidates’ comfort level with his pioneering format, gave each of them a heads-up on several of the hardest questions he asked Saturday night during his “the Saddleback Civil Forum on the presidency.”
A source close to Warren tells Playbook that the candidates knew in advance they would be asked their own greatest moral failure, America’s greatest moral failure, and the three wisest people in their lives.
The source said Obama also knew he would be asked if he’d be willing to commit to an emergency plan for orphans, like President Bush has for AIDS. GIVE OBAMA CREDIT FOR ANSWERING CANDIDLY: “I cheated a little bit. I actually looked at this idea ahead of time, and I think it is a great idea.”
Question: How surprising is it that the GOP nominee, with a galaxy of institutional memory available to him about how to appeal to this constituency and a personal knack for townhall formats, would be well prepared for this event? Answer: Really surprising if you’re a lefty desperate to explain why Obama’s now “more vulnerable than at any point since the primaries concluded, and he no longer appears to have a built-in strength in the electoral college that we had attributed to him before.” (In fact, the full quote from Andrea Mitchell makes it sound like even she thinks the accusation’s sour grapes.) Same with the nutroots meme that’s circulating about McCain having allegedly stolen his story about a VC prison guard drawing a cross in the dirt from Alexander Solzhenitsyn, despite other anecdotal evidence that his faith was no secret to those around him while in captivity. But even so — it’s exceptionally stupid of him not to have arrived on time and observed the terms about isolation knowing what the left would do with it. Michael Crowley at TNR is right that he’s not the type to cheat, but, er, a good way to prove that you’re not the type to cheat is to actually follow the rules you’ve agreed to. McCain seems to have assumed people would give him the benefit of the doubt simply because he’s McCain, a show of mind-boggling naivete in the middle of an election. Note to Maverick: By late October, they’ll be calling you a Manchurian candidate. In fact, they already are.
So another home run ends up with an asterisk next to it. Exit quotation from Team McCain’s bruising letter to NBC about how deep in the tank they are for Obama: “John McCain actually requested that he and Barack Obama do the forum together on stage at the same time, making these kinds of after-the-fact complaints moot.”
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McCain should have been in the cone…
I think we should make the presidential contenders go through a decathlon like run through of all the major game shows.
ninjapirate on August 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Losers always claim the winners cheated, that’s their view of life, hard working people ‘got rich on the backs of the poor’ and all of that b.s.
Tony737 on August 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Yes, McCain Cheated! He must have, because he was more prepared than Obama! And that’s not possible without cheating, because the Lightworker is the Messiah and knows all!
Which begs the question, if McCain is really the cranky old guy who needs Leibs to whisper the answer in his ear, then even if McCain was prepared beforehand, how did Obama get beaten like a rented mule to another dumb Republican?
Vanceone on August 18, 2008 at 12:02 PM
The more the Obama camp whines about how unfair life is, the more ridiculous they look.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Once again, the real Cone of Silence.
Get Smart.
dentalque on August 18, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Well, if by cheating you mean experience in the military, and 5 times more legislative experience, and by answering questions instead of trying to run out the clock with boilerplate statements, yeah, I guess you could call it that.
Think_b4_speaking on August 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Andreas other snide remark was just as bad. She stated as a matter of fact, that if Biden is the veep, he will mop the floor with ANYONE McCain picks, in the debates. What a blatant hack she’s become. We knew she was biased, but she’s up to her ears in the tank for Obama.
roninacreage on August 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Will there be riots if the Messiah isnt’ elected?
jp on August 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Why say that McCain was so good that he must have faked his performance?
It’s actually more plausible that Obama was so awful that he must have faked his performance.
I mean, McCain could only have been spectacularly better in comparison to a spectacular failure!.
You know what I mean.
jeff_from_mpls on August 18, 2008 at 12:04 PM
That jackass and his lying gaggle of juveniles are beyond despicable . . . and the Democrats want these dirt bags to run the country. The Republic is in deep trouble.
rplat on August 18, 2008 at 12:05 PM
McCain may have not cheated, but it certainly was unsportsmanlike of him to not offer some sort of pregame advantage to Bambi in order to at least give Bambi a fighting chance.
NotCoach on August 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
This is one of those days when I despair. How can we advance as a country – together- if we have our media act as an echo chamber for idiots? The Left has no tolerance for any message but the Left’s. No tolerance for any idea but the Left. No respect for anything but lock-step conformity with leftist ideology.
This can end poorly for America, and it’s not just BHO as a candidate.
NaCly dog on August 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Let’s hope that Mad Mahmoud, The Poot, and the rest of the world’s terrorists/brutal dictators/despots give Osama Obama the heads-up on questions they might ask him and actions they might take.
After all, we wouldn’t want him to come off as a bumbling, inexperienced buffoon in a real crisis, would we?
Oh, and I have to take exception to this from AP:
I don’t think McCain expected honest treatment because of who he is; I think he expected that because it used to be the way things were done in the United States.
It’s our loss as much as McCain’s that this is no longer so.
MrScribbler on August 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
No it doesn’t.
The more they whine about how well McCain did, the longer the story goes on that he did well. The worst this silly narrative can do for McCain is to make those who didn’t see the debates take the time to go watch them.
And not only is that a good thing, doing it makes the charge seem absolutely absurd.
Typhoon on August 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
If McCain said he didn’t hear the program from his car, then he didn’t hear it. It wouldn’t matter if he did. What was he going to do? Steal Obama’s rotten answers to what McCain’s been answering well in townhall meetings for months.
RBMN on August 18, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Barry made me tired and willing to sign the deal on the car just to get out of there.
MCcain made me fell good and not feel guilty about being rich, by Barry’s definition of being rich.
TroubledMonkey on August 18, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Obama knew in advance he would be asked these questions and couldn’t do any better than he did. OUCH! He really is clueless.
db on August 18, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Since when does Obama attend a church and have any idea of what is going on or being said.
Hening on August 18, 2008 at 12:09 PM
I heard somewhere that McCain’s motorcade was in traffic. So he really couldn’t do anything about being late. Does it really matter if McCain was late? The left would have still accused him of cheating simply because he beat the pants off of Obama. Any time a republican wins, its either that they cheated or the people voted outside “their own interests”
Complete7 on August 18, 2008 at 12:10 PM
It’s unfortunate to see the democrats drift further and further to the left. They are collectively headed toward “Move On”(the people behind the “General Betray Us” ad) territory. From Obama, and before him, Kerry and before him Al Gore. It’s really depressing to see that Bill Clinton was the most sane democrat president, and of course before him was Carter. The first two democrats that I don’t worry about being moonbats are Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.
The scary thing is that eventually they are going to win a presidential election.
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM
If the Messiah does not win it’s only because McCain cheated. That goes for Saddleback and the election itself. And we’re all racists. If Bambi falls short in November, I expect a decent number of lefties’ heads to explode and my prediction isn’t a riot, it’s a comically inept march on DC to attempt a coup.
trubble on August 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Very nice!
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Lightweight rumormongering from the Lightworker.
Obama’s got almost nothing left but his celebrity and that’s slowly turning into notoriety.
Dusty on August 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Did McCain do worse of the later questions that there is no way he could have heard? I think not! So much for the Dems worhtless little theory that McCain cheated.
db on August 18, 2008 at 12:12 PM
The only thing Saddleback proved was that Harvard Law School must’ve had a very aggressive affirmative-action program in 1988. That’s what it proved.
RBMN on August 18, 2008 at 12:13 PM
McCain did admit tongue-in-cheek that he was listening through the wall.Ha!Ha!
captivated_dem on August 18, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I am so tired of bho constant complaining about everything. He can not handle any situation that comes up without sending his team out to smear everyone involved.
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letget on August 18, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Quit giving lovely animals such a bad inference!
Bambi on August 18, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Absolutely, they’ll make the LA riots for the crackhead look like small potatoes.
omnipotent on August 18, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Let’s hope the democrats make this a major theme, to remind voters how superior McCain’s ansWers were compared to Obama’s.
I recommend a McCain ad to keep this alive, after the Obama-losers drop it.
Right_of_Attila on August 18, 2008 at 12:19 PM
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I don’t buy into this negativity. Clearly, McCain was late to the auditorium, but claimed to have not listened to the forum on the radio (which could be backed up by independent parties (secret service, etc). He did go into the green room while Obama was speaking, so he did not lie when he said that he was there, nor did he lie when he said that he was trying to hear through the walls. As my grandmother used to say, ‘ you sound like you are trying to find the dark cloud surrounding your silver lining’.
Think_b4_speaking on August 18, 2008 at 12:19 PM
By God, I hope he cheated, and got away with it, and that it can’t be proved otherwise.
connertown on August 18, 2008 at 12:21 PM
If it’s so private, how come Anrea Lewinski Mitchell heard about it? Oh never mind. Silly me.
Akzed on August 18, 2008 at 12:21 PM
McCain could have muttered these answers in his sleep. We could have muttered these answers in our sleep. They are not trick questions. They are statements of belief.
If you have no firm foundation for your beliefs or you are aware that your beliefs offend most people and you have to carefully choose your weasel words, then yeah, they may be difficult.
Blake on August 18, 2008 at 12:22 PM
OH yes. Will be racism like this country has never seen and it will come from the blacks, with support from hispanics.
Wade on August 18, 2008 at 12:22 PM
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jgapinoy on August 18, 2008 at 12:23 PM
But but but McCain is SENILE. How could he remember what he heard an hour before???? Damn, now I am stuttering.
HawaiiLwyr on August 18, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I found this browsing around the net.. Apparently Mr. McCain had a cell phone in his shoe! No seriously, this is what the Obama camp is now saying.. Read it here.
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=3051
wdlp1965 on August 18, 2008 at 12:24 PM
We again see how weak and pathetic Barack Obama (may his holy fungus cast spores unto you) is when unscripted. Typical liberal wonk, just mete out the rope and let them hang themselves with it…which apparently is also called “cheating” when placed opposite to a conservative.
Wyznowski on August 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Burn baby, burn!
With Andrea Lewinski Mitchell & NBC doing so much to help Hussein, if he doesn’t win it will prove that McCain cheated at Saddleback. What other explanation could there possibly be?!
Akzed on August 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Hmmm…That would explain BO’s 26 flip-flops.
jgapinoy on August 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM
That, my friend, you can take to the bank.
Geronimo on August 18, 2008 at 12:26 PM
The asterick will only matter to those who will never, ever vote for McCain anyway.
The important part of the story — that the decisive Maverick swept the floor with the dissembling Lightworker — is the only thing those voters who make up the deciding percentage of the vote will be considering.
If the Dems actually nominate this Empty Suit, it would behoove us to shift our concerns to minimizing the Dem advantage in Congress.
Dusty on August 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Burn baby, burn!
Akzed on August 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM
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Interesting to note that Mitchell is now using the current democratic wordplay of ‘may have’. It seems to be a powerful tool – let me give it a try:
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Indeed, it is a powerful tool – maybe I can be a journalist too…
Think_b4_speaking on August 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Give him a break. He’s never been in a church where racist anti-Americanism wasn’t being spewed from the pulpit. That’s why his answers were so crappy. He didn’t realize he was actually in the church.
Kafir on August 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM
My god! Obama knew the hard questions in advance yet couldn’t keep from the stammering.
Clearly his team did not do a good job prep’ping him, it is not The One’s fault.
Sir Napsalot on August 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Oh, please please please, let’s have a commercial where Obama is Maxwell Smart, tying to figure out how McCain got info in the cone of silence…who would be Agent 99, Michelle? Hillary? Ferraro?
JustTruth101 on August 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM
We can ALL have (puke) solace in Nancy Pelosi’s comment, that we have a God blessed person in Barack Hussein Obama!
Because talker Pelosi’s from San Fagcisco, I feel better all ready. /Sarcasm
byteshredder on August 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM
So let me get this straight… he wasn’t in the cone of silence because he was in the limo? And I suppose there was several miles of cable back to his hotel room or a dish mounted to the hood so he could watch CNN all the way in?
Chuck Schick on August 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM
My guess is this is feigned outrage so that Obama can refuse to actual debates later on with the “I’m not going to debate with a cheater” ploy.
Face it, Obama’s lack of experience and McCain’s old age are a contrast that comes out when talking about their lives. Ironic since Obama thought that his youth would make the difference since he was running against a crusty old liberal. Turns out that just the opposite might be true- In a time of war you don’t let somebody get the presidency as an entry-level job.
highhopes on August 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I didn’t see the event, but the answers seem easy for McCain. I’m guessing his personal moral failure was his divorce, and America’s failure is our government’s reckless spending.
What Obama’s answers to those questions would be is not so clear to me. For him, there’s no answer for the first question, because he’s perfect, and too many to mention for the second question, because he thinks America sucks.
forest on August 18, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Seems to be a very accurate observation, given the facts that we know.
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Puhleeze.
Obama looked awful all on his own, even without comparing him to John McCain.
JohnTant on August 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Do we need a timeline for this?
How did Warren not know that McCain was there? Couldn’t he have stalled or something for a bit?
WisCon on August 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM
So McCain not being in the ‘cone of silence’ forced Baracky to say such gems as “Its above my paygrade”?
Sorry but whether or not McCain could hear the answers, Obama still sounded like a bumbling fool who can’t think on his feet.
Bishop on August 18, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Now do you see why we should be extremely skeptical about their “global warming theory.”
Libs are great speculators. Jackasses with vivid imaginations.
jeff_from_mpls on August 18, 2008 at 12:37 PM
I guess you guys didn’t read my post about the accusations of the cell phone in Mr. McCain’s heel eh?
This apparently is how he cheated according to the Obama camp.
wdlp1965 on August 18, 2008 at 12:37 PM
With all the media broadcasting? It would have been better if McCain had made the effort to be on time. Failing that, I’m pretty sure Orange County has cell phone service these days so his people could have called ahead.
highhopes on August 18, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Barry was in a church of mostly conservative members and my guess he was making attempt sound at least like a moderate.Poor guy, it’s not in him.
Sanjoboy on August 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Clearly his team did not do a good job prep’ping him, it is not The One’s fault.
Sir Napsalot on August 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Strange isn’t it, as if Super Messiah™ doesn’t have…GASP!…his own views on the issues. Shocking.
Bishop on August 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Forget McCain, the real story is that Obama knew that he was going to be asked about the three wisest people and still said that his wife was one of them. How stupid can one person be?
progressoverpeace on August 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I’m loving the whole hubris of “Warren as Kingmaker”.
Meh. Whatever. Bums on seats is what counts at the end of the day, I suppose…..
LimeyGeek on August 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Dude … Obama totally just saved his own life!!!
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:43 PM
this was but the first mccain jab into the messiah’s pie hole. by the end of the third debate, obama will have eaten so many jabs, he’ll beg for the right cross.
DrW on August 18, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Ya know – that may have been Obama’s smartest answer!
NaCly dog on August 18, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Waaaa! Waaaa! Gasp…Gasp Waaaa! Waaaa!
TheBigOldDog on August 18, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I agree. But then again, Larry King fancied himself the ‘kingmaker’ with Ross Perot. That’s what these people do – they promote themselves. They like it when celebrities come to them. It’s why Bill O’Reilly wants Obama to come on his show. It’s good for them. But they are all just the conduits to the real reason people watch, and that is usually the gust. Not the host. The hosts would think otherwise, it would seem.
I’m less meh’ed with Warren as much as the people who have their minds made up that they so proudly didn’t watch the event because they thought that this was going to be a great pander, and we got some really good information from both candidates, good and bad.
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Wait, this wasn’t a live edition of the Dr. Phil Show?
Kini on August 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM
MUST-SEE: Rick Warren to God-o-Meter: Obama, Dems Can’t Just Talk Faith … Rev. Warren flat-out states that “it’s absolutely a lie” that McCain did anything wrong before the forum.
DPierre on August 18, 2008 at 12:49 PM
That is the most asinine of a long line of asinine statements on Frank Rich’s part, beginning with the fact that it makes absolutely no sense.
It must be a pitiful attempt at a preemptive strike against charges about Barry’s past.
Buy Danish on August 18, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I didn’t watch the ‘event’ because I barely know who Warren is, and care even less. He wrote some book for people gullible enough to think that life comes with an instruction manual. Meh. Time to change the channel.
I’ve picked up some bits’n'pieces since then – nothing set my pants on fire – and I’m glad I spent my valuable time watching Jericho instead ;)
LimeyGeek on August 18, 2008 at 12:51 PM
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:43 PM
NaCly dog on August 18, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Heh. You folks are right, it was the answer BHO needed so that he could go home again. I was just shocked when I heard it – after all that whining he’s done about not pulling his nasty wife back into the political fray. I had given BHO some slack on this because I assumed that the question caught him off-guard. Once again, BHO proves that he’s just dumb.
You know, Olympic athletes break down and cry when they give a bad performance. BHO has been falling off the beam left and right and still goes to the sidelines cheering himself on as if nothing bad happened – though we all just witnessed it. I’m almost fascinated by this.
progressoverpeace on August 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I understand, and you weren’t required to watch it. I’m just saying that it was 95% Obama and McCain. If anyone was interested in what Obama and McCain had to say, then they might have wanted to see it.
(Regrets now that I didn’t at least DVR Jericho.)
wise_man on August 18, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Let’s see if I can translate this into liberal-speak.
The more experienced candidate came across as “more experienced” so…..
Shenanigans!!
Conservative_SAHM on August 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Accusations against McCain by the Obama Camp:
1. He’s too old.
2. Really he’s too old. And probably senile.
3. He’s just like George Bush in spite of evidence to the contrary.
4. He cheated on his wife. Which he admitted and said was a huge, huge moral failure in his life.
5. He cheated on his taxes. Which was actually Mrs. McCain forgetting to pay taxes on a condo an older relative lived in.
6. He’s not really a war hero. I mean, he spent 5.5 years in the Hanoi Hilton. He wasn’t actually fighting the war.
7. His teeth are icky.
8. He might be insane. No actual clinical evidence to support this, just some childish accusation.
9. He’s cheating when he’s in debates.
10. He wasn’t in the “cone of silence.” (what is this, a superhero movie?)
11. He’s a racist. Even though he adopted a kid from another country and has never once played the race card.
12. He won’t debate Obama. Even though he offered to have several “townhall debates” with him.
Seriously, that’s the best they can do?
mjk on August 18, 2008 at 12:57 PM
As I read this, into my mind flashed a picture of Obama in a “crisis”: In a fetal position, under the presidential desk, whimpering.
I guess I have an over-active imagination… what would make me think such a thing?
electric-rascal on August 18, 2008 at 12:57 PM
I think Scrappleface was mimicking The Onion? Are we really to believe that Andrea Lewinski Mitchell believes allegations by the Barack Maxwell Hussein Smart Obama camp that McCain had a shoe phone?! I think it was a play on he Cone of Silence theme.
Akzed on August 18, 2008 at 12:57 PM
You know, Olympic athletes break down and cry when they give a bad performance. BHO has been falling off the beam left and right and still goes to the sidelines cheering himself on as if nothing bad happened – though we all just witnessed it. I’m almost fascinated by this.
progressoverpeace on August 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM
It’s because Obama knows he is the underage Chinese gymnast with the home field advantage; the MSM will gladly provide the relevant documentation which ‘proves’ that Obama is qualified, and then the judging panel will be loaded and even outright stumbles will be awarded perfect tens.
Bishop on August 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM
[progressoverpeace on August 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM]
Thanks, you three. New Obama meme: “McCain lost because he didn’t list his wife” in 5, 4, 3, ….
Dusty on August 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM
I’m no psychologist, but it seems to me that if John McCain did indeed hear the questions and the Obama responses, then the McCain answers to the same questions would (likely, somewhere, eventually) have referenced Obama’s answers and would have attempted to counter what Obama said (as you would in a traditional debate)… I heard no trace or hint in any of McCain’s responses that he was trying to compete, negate or shoot down an answer that Obama had given; all of his responses were totally original, based on his life experiences and his principled stand on the issues.
electric-rascal on August 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM
The Cone of Silence is a notoriously unreliable technology in the first place, so this seems like what Obama would normally term a “distraction.”
Karl on August 18, 2008 at 1:04 PM
And they knew just the right reporter to whisper to, didn’t they?
They were having a Cosmopolitan and an arugula salad…
d1carter on August 18, 2008 at 1:08 PM
A few weeks ago, Obama was asked if he had any regrets in his life, and replied no.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Who cares what the lunatics on the left claim or “think”?
Anytime anything does not go exactly as they want, they throw themselves on the floor and tantrum.
Why deal with the left as adults when they clearly are not, nor will they ever be.
Treat the left like the shrieking toddlers that they are – ignore them.
NoDonkey on August 18, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Rascal, you are completely missing the point.
For four years we have been told that “Chimpster Dumbya Bush” was the stupidest man on earth, completely unfit for office, though he was smart enough to orchestrate the massive attack and subsequent cover up of 911.
Now we are being told that McCain is a doddering old man who is, even with senility fast overtaking his brain, capable of besting the young and vibrantly intellectual Baracky.
The left is preparing for their loss in November, they need to have a few cheater meme’s in place to account for that eventuality.
Bishop on August 18, 2008 at 1:09 PM
In the 2250s, James T. Kirk became the first (and only known) cadet to ever beat the no-win scenario. After taking the test and failing twice, Kirk took the test a third time after surreptitiously reprogramming the computer to make it possible to win the scenario.
Kirk got a commendation for “original thinking”, and later commented wistfully that his stunt “had the virtue of never having been tried.” Kirk would later defend his “cheating” by arguing that he didn’t believe in the no-win scenario. Ironically, Kirk also defended the test itself by suggesting “how we face death is at least as important as how we face life”.
During the filming of The Wrath of Khan, some people voiced concern at the notion of Kirk having “cheated” to pass the test. However, Nicholas Meyer defended the notion, saying it revealed an aspect of Kirk’s character, and that the film, or Kirk, shouldn’t be restricted by “television mentality”.
max1 on August 18, 2008 at 1:10 PM
From what I’ve heard of Michelle, for Obama not to include her in the list would not only be stupid, but downright dangerous.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Know this, ye unbeliever:
The One is all-knowing. It is how to phrase it so the mere mortals can understand that The One need coaching a bit.
Sir Napsalot on August 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM
I was surprised that one (or both) of them didn’t answer the “what has been America’s greatest moral failure” question with “slavery.” That would have been my answer.
Obama’s “we don’t have enough social welfare and affirmative action programs” (paraphrasing) answer begged for some follow-up questions. I hope in the debates Obama gets asked about his opposition to those state civil rights ballot iniatives like the one in Michigan that he campaigned against (which forbid the state from using an applicant’s race to give him or her an advantage in state contract awards and admissions to state colleges and universities).
From the comments I’ve been reading by Obama supporters on other sites, they don’t seem to understand what Obama’s position is on this issue. Since most voters oppose racial preference programs (e.g., the Michigan ballot initiative passed by an overwhelming margin, despite Obama’s commercials urging Michigan voters to reject it), it would be very interesting to see how people react to information about Obama’s real record.
AZCoyote on August 18, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Actually, it was the bank that forgot to pay the taxes. For mortgages, the taxes are paid out of the escrow fund that you pay into each month with your mortgage payment.
The McCain’s had no way of knowing that the taxes weren’t being paid, until the country contacted them.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Slavery isn’t so bad…..at least the unemployment rate is low.
Gotta look on the bright side.
LimeyGeek on August 18, 2008 at 1:17 PM
About 35 seconds into this audio clip up until about 49 seconds, Obama admits that he “reviewed the subject” on orphans ahead of time. I guess he cheated and the preacher lied?
Snooper on August 18, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Gotta love the MSM. The Saddleback weirdos make fun and call it a “cone of silence“, a la Get Smart, and the MSM takes it and runs with it sans quotes or humor. They think there is a thing called a “cone of silence”. Nitwits.
Jaibones on August 18, 2008 at 1:19 PM
AZCoyote on August 18, 2008 at 1:13 PM
A trick question, indeed. Would you read into it as if it is a uniquely Amrica’s greatest moral failure, or a general America’s greatest moral failure?
Sir Napsalot on August 18, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Perhaps Rick Warren is being prophetic and didn’t realize it. Another use of the terms C.O.S. refers to the ‘cone of silence’ prior to an F4 or F5 touching down. Denver maybe.
captivated_dem on August 18, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I’ve been hearing this all weekend, and MSNBC has been pushing the lie.
madmonkphotog on August 18, 2008 at 1:25 PM
MacZilla vs. Obambi. We’ve all seen that movie.
Oh and Allah, you know you’ve read a few too many Kos and DU threads on the subject when you start giving credence to some of their pointless points. A candidate for president arrives at an event a bit late! OMG, stop the press!
I sure wish you’d go back to being the eater of heads and leave the sensitivity and reaching-across-the-aisle to Ed.
Immolate on August 18, 2008 at 1:26 PM
They don’t even understand that such a move would turn off masses of independent voters. I wonder how many the “I’m not going to keep my promise because the campaign finance reform system is broken” gambit lost him?
snaggletoothie on August 18, 2008 at 1:30 PM
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