The balance between regular military, reserves, and various Guard units (whose primary duty is to assist and protect the state they are assigned to. Thus, their actions reflect hometown support.

The regular forces are held together by a common bond of defeating an enemy that means the nation harm. Thus, their attitudes and actions are based more on individual and right to free choice and tend to support those who support their mission = goals and objectives.

That’s why we saw all those huge crowds of military personnel, cheering and yelling “Yes we Can” whenever he thanked them on behalf of a grateful nation, for their Courage, Bravery, and Sacrifice.

Didn’t we?

franksalterego on August 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

No, no, your hearing must be going. Were you in the Field Artillery, by chance?

It wasn’t “Yes we Can!”, it was “#uck you Man!”

I am sure that Tom Shipley had his ilk will try to make this into some big political statement about the war or something, but if those troops do not want to be in Iraq, they don’t have to be. It is not necessary to vote for someone like Obama to get out of Iraq. Just do not join and do not reenlist.

I do know that McCain wins in areas of the country where there bases and more military personnel.

But you know, there are minorities in the military and a lot of them might be supporting Obama. You look at the numbers of African Americans supporting overall, it is not out of the question that some black soldiers might do the same thing.

Troops stationed abroad donating to Obama by six to one margin

Yes, of course they did.

That’s why we saw all those huge crowds of military personnel, cheering and yelling “Yes we Can” whenever he thanked them on behalf of a grateful nation, for their Courage, Bravery, and Sacrifice.

Didn’t we?

Troops stationed abroad donating to Obama by six to one margin

Yes, of course…

That’s why we saw those huge crowds of our military personnel, cheering and yelling “Yes we Can” everywhere he went, thanking them for their Bravery, Courage, and Sacrifice.

Obama’s lead over McCain is noteworthy, even with a small, skewed sample

Why?

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/archives/146162.asp?source=rss

Way would be want a noobie as commander-in-chief?

“Troops stationed abroad donating to Obama by six to one margin”

Inquiry: What is the U.S. troop’s Black/AAmerican(NO typo)-to-Other ratio? Math: 90% (LOW estimate of No. of Black voting for The Obamboozler) of 11% (Black % of U.S. population) is about 10%.

With this information one can understand more clearly whether a “6-to-1″ margin is significant (NOT referring to for-propaganda-purposes) or not.

My money is on race for this one. No, this is not “playing the race card.” It’s just calling it like I see it. Black servicemembers are very much inclined toward voting for and supporting someone they “identify with”

Yep. Blacks comprise a significant portion of the Army and I would expect a fairly large subset of these folks to favor Obama. However, translating “favor” to a vote is another thing.

Back when the new GI Bill was being debated and voted on, Greyhawk at Mudville Gazette made several psots to the effect that the Democrats were positioning the bill to make the Republicans look bad. Secretary Gates and McCain were in favor fo a different version, but the Dems and the msm made them out to look like they didn’t want a new GI Bill at all.

Also, the Dems tacked a lot of bad pork to the bill just to make it veto-bait, so the president would look like a creep vetoing it. They refused to offer up a clean bill that everyone could vote for in good conscience.

Dems used this to paint McCain as not caring about the troops. I don’t know if the actual troops noticed what was going on, but that number of donors is too small a sample to be indicative of anything anyway.

It would be more interesting to know the branch of service or theater from where these donations originated. After all, we have a very large military who are spread throughout the globe and the human toll of combat has been largely born by the Marines and Army.

Obama’s world view seems to run counter to military culture (particularly of the Army and Marines) so I am dubious as to the value of this story.

One last point, administrative or non combat related MOS’ are likely to have greater access to computers than combat related MOS’ as well as officers versus enlisted.

Moreover, there may be other divisions within the sample which might not be evident but which might impact the donation count.

For example, much has been made of the fact that one component of Obama’s core support rests with college educated, under 30 crowd. So it would be interesting to know if a large subset of his overseas donations came from Air Force officers stationed in Germany vs a squad leader in a rifle platoon in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Also, with troop deployments stretched out so long, I think it’s natural for troops to favor a candidate who’s promising to bring them home soon over one who’s saying stuff like “we’ll stay there as long as it takes.”
Tom_Shipley on August 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM

Makes perfect sense. Except to the 1,215 US servicemen in this photo.

Or this one.

And Tom, stfu. Your silly opinion on this bs story is as meaningless as the story itself.

Also, with troop deployments stretched out so long, I think it’s natural for troops to favor a candidate who’s promising to bring them home soon over one who’s saying stuff like “we’ll stay there as long as it takes.”