Real Genius assassination weapon comes to life
posted at 8:45 am on August 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Life sometimes does imitate art, even if it takes over twenty years to do so. In the 1985 comedy Real Genius, students at a California technical university thwart a government plan to develop an airborne laser-assassination weapon. In 2008, the military has succeeded in creating an airborne laser weapon platform that provides plausible deniability for covert operations:
Boeing announced today the first ever test firing of a real-life ray gun that could become US special forces’ way to carry out covert strikes with “plausible deniability.”
In tests earlier this month at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, Boeing’s Advanced Tactical Laser — a modified C-130H aircraft — “fired its high-energy chemical laser through its beam control system. The beam control system acquired a ground target and guided the laser beam to the target, as directed by ATL’s battle management system.” …
But what Fancher didn’t mention (and what I explore over on the New Scientist web site) is that this capability will allow Special Forces to strike with maximum precision, from long distances — without being blamed from the attacks. “Plausible deniability” is how the presentation put it.
The claim that a laser strike could be carried out without attribution appears in two separate briefing documents by Air Force personnel, describing the benefits of the new directed energy weapon.
For those who recall one of the most quotable movies of the 80’s, this sounds very, very familiar. Take a look at the opening sequence to the Brian Grazer film, in which an intelligence/military unit discusses the implications of such a weapon:
One of the charms of this movie is that it didn’t take itself all that seriously, turning an intriguing moral question into more or less a farce. However, the weapon itself certainly was taken seriously, as this report proves. Have we developed an essential tool for fighting terrorists, or have we created an assassination weapon that will push an escalation from our larger enemies abroad — and when people disappear, will we get the blame, thanks to the “plausible deniability”?
I can see good arguments for the development of this platform in the current context of our fight in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In a way, it’s not much different than a Predator drone. We target a terrorist or a facility and drop a missile on the location. This system will hit much more quickly, allowing us to react in real time to intelligence on terrorist locations.
However, the potential for it to be used outside of this context exists as well. Right now, we have an executive order banning assassinations, but that has been controversial even before Osama bin Laden became a household name, or Saddam Hussein became the reason for a massive invasion. Could we have saved hundreds of thousands of lives by assassinating Saddam (and his sons) through the use of this weapon? If so, why not use that and its “plausible deniability” than throw 250,000 Americans into the Iraqi desert?
In 1985, these questions were academic, which led to the easy, good/evil paradigm taken by Real Genius, which really is a smarter movie than it first seems. With the weapon a reality, this is no longer academic or easy.
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Well I’d say the first step we take should be to make damn sure nobody else gets access to such technology.
Yeah, right…
Cylor on August 14, 2008 at 8:49 AM
I’m with you. How long before Iranian drones are chasing our asses?
JiangxiDad on August 14, 2008 at 8:51 AM
Would you be prepared if gravity reversed itself?
Awesome movie; my screen name was inspired by it(The “Laserjock” sticker on the lab door when Mitch first enters the lab).
The laser is a bit underpowered by today’s standards, but I suppose the idea’s the same.
Laserjock on August 14, 2008 at 8:52 AM
(finger quotes) Lasers? from a plane.. much cooler than (finger quotes) Lasers on a shark..
a quick aside.. if you wanna talk about Val Kilmer movies, you can’t beat ‘Top Secret!’… still a classic.
DaveC on August 14, 2008 at 8:52 AM
I don’t see how a pathologist would not be able to tell a laser strike.
Lightning strikes have affects on the entire body that are immediately evident. The result of massive amounts of electricity flowing through the body.
Additionally, unless the plane carrying this thing were 100% stealthy, the claim that nobody would know it’s there doesn’t stand up to scrutiny either. Anyone with a radar would see it.
I suspect we are dealing with an author who is more paranoid regarding the military, than he is familiar with basic physics.
MarkTheGreat on August 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM
The clip demonstrates some typical liberal/truther mindsets:
all military officials are evil & callous
a Black guy will always be the most moral guy in the group
military officials routinely assassinate fellow Americans
jgapinoy on August 14, 2008 at 8:57 AM
And people thought we were joking when we proposed that upgrading to rayguns might be a good way to get around unconstitutional gun bans!
ironman on August 14, 2008 at 8:58 AM
So who’s going to bring the house full of popcorn?
I liked The Saint, as well.
ObisSister on August 14, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Yeah, a laser death canon is fine an all.
But can it make popcorn?
madmonkphotog on August 14, 2008 at 8:58 AM
The only thing I can’t figure out is how to keep the change in my pockets.
Top Secret IS a classic. Makes me wistful for my skeet surfing days…
Darksean on August 14, 2008 at 8:59 AM
How much “plausible deniability” is there, when what used to be Bob is now a smoking hole in the ground with zero colateral damage?
I mean, how many countrys are going to be fielding weapons like this?
Jim708 on August 14, 2008 at 9:06 AM
It is just another weapon in the inventory…
Sounds a bit crass, doesn’t it?
Has a good number of uses…I’d not harp on the “assassination” aspect of it, perhaps something like “target specific” would work out better. As for the lethality without attribution…the secret is apparently already out.
“Did Comrade Ali bin Odinga just fall over? Why does he smell of fresh boiled goat? Why does he have the mark of Zawahiri on his forehead?” Questions as these and others are to be expected in various parts of the world, I am sure.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Spontaneous Human Combustion my friend..
DaveC on August 14, 2008 at 9:09 AM
But can it lance volcanoes???
robblefarian on August 14, 2008 at 9:09 AM
I’ve solved your power problem, Jerry.
fusionaddict on August 14, 2008 at 9:10 AM
This is warfare of the future?
But how does “open the bomb bay doors, HAL” fit with lasers?
jgapinoy on August 14, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Just a note about Val Kilmer:
Scum.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2008 at 9:20 AM
Ahhh…thanks for the memories. A funny movie that warmed the hearts of science geeks like me. I’ll have to Netflix this one and make the wife watch it with me.
I was just pondering the immortal words of Socrates, when he said, “I drank what?”
ynot4tony2 on August 14, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Does it come with a cute, hyper, brilliant brunette?
Jim708 on August 14, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Nevermind…I’m not going to rent Real Genius now, nor any other Val Kilmer movie. Screw him!
ynot4tony2 on August 14, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Not to rehash quarter-century-old battles, but in the wake of Reagan’s 1983 ‘Star Wars’ speech, you didn’t see this movie as taking a shot at the concept of high-tech U.S. military weapons and how they be deployed by our evil government? (Only the fact that Reagan Derangement Syndrome never reached the same level in Hollywood that Bush Derangement Syndrome has allowed the filmmakers here to avoid the pitfalls of today’s anti-Iraq/anti-War on Terror movies in going so far overboard with their message they lose all entertainment value in the movie).
As for the weapon itself, the converse is more likely in the near-term than your actual theory — The tinfoil hat brigades out there will use Boeing’s announcement to now claim that any surprising death of one of their icons was a government plot (especially if McCain wins), and that person couldn’t have just died at an early age or from an unusual incident — he/she had to have been killed off by the evil regime’s new deadly weapon.
jon1979 on August 14, 2008 at 9:25 AM
That quote almost makes absolutely no sense. Dude must be a moron in addition to being a sub-par actor.
I really doubt we’d be using a plane-laser to bump off govermnent officials of other countries. Maybe some terrorists in secluded regions, but it’s not like you’d use a laser to take out Putin or anything. It’s a neat idea, but not nearly as cool as the laser weapon from Cardinal of the Kremlin (if we’re going the art route) or the robots they’re developing for the battlfield. Lasers on sharks are cooler too.
At least we’re still the kid with the best toys on the block, eh? Whatever keeps us ahead of the baddies.
Anna on August 14, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Plausible denial only works if we’re not the only one that has the weapon….
The answer to that, as gamed out over a decade by the Pentagon under Clinton and Bush, is no. If we’d have assassinated the Husseins, a power vacuum would have plunged Iraq into anarchy with a full out civil war as the result, assuming someone from Saddam’s inner circle didn’t just step up to assume the role as dictator.
Seixon on August 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM
I thought our ban on assassinations only applied to heads of state. That rules out Ahmadamnutjob, but can we test it on the mullahs? As for bin Laden, if we knew where he was, he would already be dead.
Kafir on August 14, 2008 at 9:30 AM
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davidk on August 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM
And we tell everyone about this why?
BadgerHawk on August 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM
Snooty, pathetic, arrogant, self-deceived, ignorant, egomaniacal PUNK!
jgapinoy on August 14, 2008 at 9:40 AM
The idea for this weapon dates MUCH further back than the 1980’s film Real Genius. The first place that I remember seeing the plausible deniability weapon that “makes your enemies disappear” was in the Star Trek (TOS) episode “Mirror,Mirror” which was first broadcast in 1967. In fact, there may be even earlier references to the idea than that.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 9:42 AM
You mean, “Open the pod bay doors, Hal”.
I’ve got it: nudity.
Laserjock on August 14, 2008 at 9:42 AM
This PUNK has no grasp of history.
When I was draft age, they were drafting everbody. A lottery was instituted to make it equitable.
Armchair doosh.
davidk on August 14, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I’m not into sci-fi, but I would say, “Buck Rogers.”
(Whenever the heck that was.)
davidk on August 14, 2008 at 9:47 AM
War of the Worlds. The heat ray was a polished parabolic mirror that they shined a beam weapon against.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2008 at 9:49 AM
read some show biz piece about how to kill a movie before it even gets made.. Attach Val Kilmer to it..
the last movie I can think of that had him in it was.. *shudder, the horrors* ‘Batman Forever’ with nipples..
(so glad ‘Batman Begins’ re-booted the series from scratch)
DaveC on August 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Looking good when used on the side of liberty. But as an instrument of oppression in our increasingly Orwellian country/world, not so much.
petefrt on August 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM
The War of the Worlds weapon was pretty overt, not exactly a stealth weapon. But if we give ya’ that, then H. G. Wells would take the idea all the way back to the 19th century.
My collie says:
Anybody know what collie is talking about? Is the idea REALLY thousands of years old?
CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 9:54 AM
If we knew where he was, we’d have to dig him up.
slug on August 14, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Buy it
Build it
Boo-yah!
What a country. I heart the death ray. :-)
Mojave Mark on August 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Supposedly even older than that. Archimedes Death Ray, anyone?
However, I was simply thinking that the alien technology, by comparison, was more stealthy.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2008 at 10:03 AM
McCain: “What about when I caught you naked with that bowl of Jell-O?”
Obama: “I was hot and I was hungry!”
: )
catmman on August 14, 2008 at 10:05 AM
We were working on this long before the movie and long before this announcement. The aim was more space-based ABM at the time but the concept is the same.
Beam Experiment Aboard Rocket (BEAR)
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Hugo…come out to playhay!!!
LtE126 on August 14, 2008 at 10:10 AM
How cool is it that this space age death ray is deployed inside a 52-year-old aircraft? (former C-130 nav)
Mike Antonucci on August 14, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Nice.
This? This is ice. This is what happens to water when it gets to cold. This? This is John McCain. This is what happens to people when they get too sexually frustrated…
(Of course, you have to either put in your mind the popeye picture HA uses for McCain, or Rush’s impression of him for full comedic effect)
Darksean on August 14, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Anyone here remember the Japanese anime cartoon “Starblazers”? It was about a spaceship made from the remains of the sunken battleship Yamato, the largest battleship ever made. It was retrofitted with a “Wave Motion Engine” that latched onto tachyons to travel faster than light. Another “far out” concept to pursue…
Where’s Lazlo when you need him…still underground?
connertown on August 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Revell or Monogram? heh heh.
dogsoldier on August 14, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Kilmer appears to be in the classic mode of the second generation Jane Fonda morphadites like Tim Robbins, Sherandon, Baldwin, et all, with a fifth grader’s education. They really do live in another reality unlike folks that go to work everyday to provide for themselves, or the grunt that rolls out of his cot every morning to protect these morons first amendment rights to advance their stupidy.
As for the falling into the wrong hands, that is the frightening scenario that does not emphasize the social consequences of such an advanced technology. Pandora’s box comes to mind.
Rovin on August 14, 2008 at 10:25 AM
As I recall, those things are great at making Jiffy Pop too. I say we aim the thing at Putin.
srhoades on August 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Have no fear. After Herself steals the nomination at RatFest08 and the Democrat vote manufacturing machine is done, our next President Clinton can mimic her consort’s selling missile guidance secrets to the Chinese for campaign contributions by selling these secrets to her Chinese paymasters. Balance in the universe is restored…
GeneSmith on August 14, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Best example… the story of Elijah and the priests of Baal, which probably occurred around 850 B.C.
Of course, my favorite part of the story is the smack-talk!
dominigan on August 14, 2008 at 10:46 AM
This is precisely the kind of crap that pisses me off to no end. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON FOR ANY CIVILIANS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS, OUTSIDE OF THE ENGINEERS AND TECHNICIANS THAT WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, AND SELECT POLITICIANS. This country needs to seriously clamp down on security, and start prosecuting people to the fullest extent of the law that break silence, even if it means executions.
Virus-X on August 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I’m your huckleberry…no ray guns involved
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx1TWk-V4P0&feature=related
yakwill83 on August 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Well, we should test it on Putin and his sidekick.
We will see if the theory works that assassinations can save lives. If that does not work, then lets try the Nagasaki theory.
WoosterOh on August 14, 2008 at 11:02 AM
In a way, it’s not much different than a Predator drone.
How cool would that be, one minute Z-man is standing there talking to his terror buddies and the next minute ZAP! He’s gone. They’d all think it was allah! hahaha
Tony737 on August 14, 2008 at 11:07 AM
To Cypher’s talking dog: How about the sun reflected death ray invented by Archimedes?
Tony737 on August 14, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I suppose one could always claim spontaneous human combustion…
Blacklake on August 14, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I’m not sure how deniable someone igniting like a roman candle is unless you believe in spontaneous human combustion. I think it’s a great idea because now we’ll be able to pick the scumbags out of the crowds of women and children they use as body armor. Now they’ll start wearing toddler vests in response.
Beagle on August 14, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Tombstone: an all-around awesome movie and arguably Val Kilmer’s only performance that was truly worth watching.
I didn’t realize he was such a stuck-up moron, but I can’t say I’m surprised, either.
Cylor on August 14, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Lasers, that’s cute. You want a weapon system, this is a weapon system. Imagine the sight of this being deployed! Most would think they had just witnessed an act of God.
redshirt on August 14, 2008 at 11:17 AM
That would take it to the 3rd century B.C. Do you have an earlier reference, collie?
My collie says:
Not exactly a beam weapon, and the bodies didn’t vanish into thin air either, but it definitely qualifies in the stealth department. The scale (85000 men) is the thing that is truly impressive with this one. Imagine waking up one morning and finding 85000 dead bodies with no apparent cause of death. Who wouldn’t find that terrifying?
The time frame on this one is the second half of the 8th century B.C. — which is something like 27 centuries in the past.
CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 11:46 AM
That famous episode with Elijah is definitely more like the beam weapon that comes out of nowhere, but it wasn’t exactly stealthy. In fact, it was the exact opposite. It was an “in-your-face” display of God’s power. What do you think Collie?
My collie says:
That’s because the ABL aircraft has its vulnerabilities – but how does one “shoot back” at God?
CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Love it. Love it. Love it. I’ll take two please.!.
Griz on August 14, 2008 at 11:55 AM
This is one of my favorite comedies of allllll time.
I use the socrates quote for a signature on one email address.
But my favorite quote (and yes it has NOTHING to do with the laser):
tickleddragon on August 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM
As to the laser…
It was only a matter of time. And I’m for it. :)
tickleddragon on August 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Hmmm… Bible… Thor (Lightning Hammer Mjolnir), Zues an his Lightning bolts… theres a Hindu god that strikes with lightning as well, can’t remember the name…
But first cinimatic rendition? Would have to be the old Serial Buck Rodgers… Ming had a Death Ray ya know… or I seem to remember one in Sky Captain as well…
Romeo13 on August 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Oh, and to finish out he quotes…
“things are gettin kinda weird around here, ya know?”
Lazlo T. Hollyfeld
Romeo13 on August 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM
I have got a friend who just returned from Nellis AFB, after working at area ?. He said we have things there, that if we see them in twenty years, we still will not believe it.
Johan Klaus on August 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Sorry dude, Mythbusters busted that one! It was a great episode.
redshirt on August 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM
I am reminded of this:
http://www.ianai.net/jokes/forumpix/startrekhitit.jpg
SlimyBill on August 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM
A cool weapon system must have a cool name… maybe “Sword of Allah” or something along those lines.
How long ’til the troofers trade in their tinfoil hats for mirrored umbrellas?
innominatus on August 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Yeah, they’ll say this weapon is what did Paul Wellstone.
“Ant Sizzler” would be a cool name.
SlimyBill on August 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM
I wonder if it can melt a Red tank or two in Georgia?
faraway on August 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Isn’t it kinda hard to deny it when the target has a laser hole burned in him, and you’re the only one with a laser weapon?
But I don’t think deniability is so much the issue as being able to precision target without placing a human targeter on the ground and in direct danger during the operation.
Lawrence on August 14, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I recall that if one correctly interprets the Hebrew text, Elijah accused Baal of not hearing the priests because he was on the toilet.
Frozen Tex on August 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
There’s nothin’ like a good euphemism.
I always liked “extreme prejudice” and “co-lateral damage” my own self.
J_Gocht on August 14, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I was also partial to that blond “Tory” babe that used to go behind the podiums with Rummy and Pace… she loved the term “forward leaning”
WOW, you rock hon!
J_Gocht on August 14, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Mitch: …”it’s ‘coherent’ light.
Mitch’s Dad: “So…it can talk, right?”
Mitch: “Nooo…”
or this one
Dr. Hathaway: “Tell me – is there any chance Mitch is adopted?”
Mitch’s Mom: “Why no!”
Dr. Hathaway” “Amazing!”
catmman on August 14, 2008 at 1:25 PM
if only…
urbancenturion on August 14, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Gotta luv those Air Force, technical writers…!
J_Gocht on August 14, 2008 at 1:38 PM
What about Archimedes and the stories of him burning an invading fleet using hundreds of polished sheilds to reflect sunlight?
MarkTheGreat on August 14, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Never happened, see redshirt above… They couldn’t concentrate the sunlight enough to set the wooden ship afire.
J_Gocht on August 14, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Plausible deniability?
“What happened to Abu?!”
“I don’t know, Omar. One minute he was fine, the next minute he had a five inch wide whole burned clean through his torso. But I don’t think it has anything to do what that new American death ray.”
Akzed on August 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM
If we don’t build it, someone else will eventually. Technological progress, while not irreversible, is extremely hard to turn around once it gets going. Anything invented can be reinvented. “What one man can do, another can do”. We wouldn’t be the only ones with this weapon for long. Look at nuclear weapons.
I remember a Star Trek TNG episode where aliens had come back in time to steal a weapon that could destroy a star which was hidden in the past by another time traveller. The entire thing is implausible, for once a doomsday weapon is made it’s only a matter of time before it is replicated by someone else and used. You cannot stop technological progress. And all of this goes to Steven Hawking’s idea that it’s best for man to colonize space so that all of our eggs are not in one basket on earth as it were. Eventually, demographic dispersion will be our only hope in the face of more powerful weapons.
“But – and I am only saying that because I care – there’s a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing. “
Laserjock on August 14, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Real Genius might be one of the most quotable movies ever.
Darksean on August 14, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I envision this laser weapon being used against “homegrown” terrorists – you know, people who go around quoting the Constitution and such.
fossten on August 14, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Tail letters ET = 46th Test Wing Eglin AFB, Florida AFMC. This weapon has been in the pipe line for a few years.
I can almost hear the weapons officer asking the pilot, “regular or extra crispy?”
Zorro on August 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
From Aviationweek, where you need a password.
Entelechy on August 14, 2008 at 9:37 PM
I thought that was a great movie.
As for the “laser”, I’d like to see them on the Predators.
And as for evidence on a body, what if the “laser” were used on a missle parked somewhere? or other munitions?
91Veteran on August 15, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Plausible WHAT? How the heck is there plausible deniability if you leave a crispy critter or a dead critter with a smoking hole in its skull with a trajectory that shows it came from the sky and you’re the only nation known to possess such a tool? That part of the report is pure FUD on the part of biased journalists alarmed at what they saw.
Now, from the “cold war” days it is suspected that Russia had come close to this technology when we decided it was time to attempt super high energy laser weapons. I’d not be overly surprised if Putin now has control of such a device or is close to having control of such a device at his finger-tips, I’d rather we had the tool as well.
{^_^}
herself on August 15, 2008 at 5:43 AM
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