Huckabee: You know who probably shouldn’t be VP? Mitt Romney

posted at 3:45 pm on August 14, 2008 by Allahpundit

Quoth the Huck, “I’ve never said that I thought that Mitt Romney’s personal religion ought to have a thing to do with whether he should be elected.” Some might dispute that, coming as it does from a guy who pointedly touted himself as a “Christian leader,” but I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the infamous “Jesus and Satan” comment so you’ll have to go it alone. His concern about Romney, he says, is the fact that he’s a flip-flopper, a fair criticism but one which seems a tad exaggerated given his effusive praise later in the segment for pro-choice Tom Ridge. It sounds like he prefers the latter to the former, which, if true, would mean he’s more comfortable with a guy who overtly supports abortion than a guy who used to but has now (allegedly) seen the light. Strange.

Anyway. I love posting Huck clips just because he’s the one Republican our commenters are harder on than I am myself, but if you’re eager for an actual news hook, read Jonathan Martin’s report of the meeting between Team McCain’s social-con outreach director and Huck’s supporters in Michigan. The race for 2012 is already on. Exit quotation: “Privately, though, Romney’s loyalists continue to loathe Huckabee at levels that approach the earlier disdain between Obama and Clinton camps.”

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Citizen: “Mr Huckabee, you’re not like other politician”

Huck: “They’re usually pretty stiff huh?”

Citizen: “You’re more like a GAME SHOW HOST”

Go find a game show Huck – your 15 minutes are running out.

jake-the-goose on August 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Shut up, Huck

Tim Burton on August 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM

+1, Well said CyberCipher.

kirkill on August 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Gah. The dude is NOT a conservative. Run as an independent, but this isn’t the party for that. Yeesh.

TheUnrepentantGeek on August 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Bingo. I was thinking something along these lines earlier. There seem to be a good 1-2% of the electorate that is socially conservative but is either liberal or apathetic on every other issue. I don’t mind them voting Republican every time, but they’re also the reason our pols go out there and yap yap yap about dude on dude butt sex (no, I’m not 9) instead of actual issues that matter. Maybe they should just go in the corner and form their own little splinter party. I consider myself fairly socially conservative (I’m not against gay marriage, but I am fervently pro-life, a combo that I don’t see much of), but these people take it way too far. And when they get their way they end up pushing people that are social conservatives but act like Dems on everything else (see Huckabee’s class warfare in the primaries) on Republican voters. Ugh. I’m about to throw up just thinking about them.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM

“Privately, though, Romney’s loyalists continue to loathe Huckabee at levels that approach the earlier disdain between Obama and Clinton camps.”

Why wouldn’t someone loathe religious bigotry? On the GOP side Huckabee was the only candidate that practiced religious bigotry and played indentity politics.

Plus not sure why they are using the past tense for the distain between Obama and Clinton.

sheryl on August 14, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Plus not sure why they are using the past tense for the distain between Obama and Clinton.

sheryl on August 14, 2008 at 4:39 PM

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I’d guess wishful thinking.

Think_b4_speaking on August 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

DfDeportation on August 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

The biggest difference between you and me is that you see politics and your faith (or your religion, if you like) as inseparable.

Not really…just certain changes HAVE to be made or this country willl go down the tubes.

A. Abortion needs to be outlawed immediately

B. Gay marriage needs to be permanently stopped in order to prevent the eventual criminalization of the Bible and Christianity(i.e. quoting from Bible = hate crime).

C. The religion of secular humanism and the unscientific religion of evolutionism needs to stop being force fed to our children as fact

That’s about it.

How is that a theocracy?

The only theocracy in the USA is the fact that our official state religion is the religion of evolutionism/secular humanism and that is unconstitutional!

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM

DfDeportation on August 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Well put.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:42 PM

DfDeportation on August 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

+1

redrock on August 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM

I never liked Huckaboo.

His demeanor towards (President 2012) Romney was deplorable.

I’M WITH MITT!!

madmonkphotog on August 14, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Oh, dear gawd…

I knew just looking at that headline, this is gonna be a loooong thread.

If I could add my 2 cents…..Huck is worthless right now. So is Mitt, but not to the same extent. Mitt will get a cushy cabinet post. Huck will have a TV show.

McCain/Crist….onward!

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 4:47 PM

The only theocracy in the USA is the fact that our official state religion is the religion of evolutionism/secular humanism and that is unconstitutional!

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM

This is a little interesting. So if education was privatized, gay marriage was left completely to the states and your state outlawed it (which is the current case unless you live in one of like 3 states), and we started enforcing the laws on the books concerning murder when babies are the victims (something I’m totally cool with), you would be content and go back to your corner. And take Huck with you? Really, you would? Yay! We have a deal. We’ll do all those things and you go back to your corner…with your buddy Huck and all his crappy populist/semi-socialist ideas. Cool.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Nice to see that Huck lost his campaign weight that he gained.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 14, 2008 at 3:51 PM

He still looks like a fathead from here.

You know who probably shouldn’t ever open his blessed mouth again on any issue of substance? Mike Huckabee.

Get over it, Huck. You STILL lost to Romney in delegate count AFTER he dropped out.

BKennedy on August 14, 2008 at 4:47 PM

When Huckahu Akbar starts sounding more like Pastor Kerney Thomas, then I’ll take him more seriously.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

B. Gay marriage needs to be permanently stopped in order to prevent the eventual criminalization of the Bible and Christianity(i.e. quoting from Bible = hate crime).

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I’m going to regret this…

The bible, and Christianity, are “criminalized” by gay marriage? So, the state should arrest on charges of Biblical and Christian grounds?

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

McCain/Crist….onward!

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 4:47 PM

You’re totally gonna rub it in if McCain picks Crist, aren’t you? I still think it’s unlikely, but I’m envisioning your victory dance Crist VP thread as I type.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

DfDeportation on August 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM

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Df, that says all that needs to be said about Huck.

Think_b4_speaking on August 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM

The world would be a better place had Huckabee never been born. That is a fact. Other then that I have no strong feelings on the matter.

Zetterson on August 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM

The bible, and Christianity, are “criminalized” by gay marriage? So, the state should arrest on charges of Biblical and Christian grounds?

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

It’s basically sharia, but with a cross instead of a crescent. Get it? Good.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM

You’re totally gonna rub it in if McCain picks Crist, aren’t you? I still think it’s unlikely, but I’m envisioning your victory dance Crist VP thread as I type.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Naahhh…no gloating for me. I’ll just accept the wonderment that is I….;-)

Again, if I’m wrong…I’m sure I’ll hear about it.

As for the :

It’s basically sharia, but with a cross instead of a crescent. Get it? Good.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM

With many (not all, mind you…but many) Fundmentalist evangelicals, it truly is sharia with a cross. I like my Catholic faith in Mass, in my daily life, and in my heart and soul. Not in the halls of government.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM

It’s not very hard to understand if you think about it..your position on this issue is simply flawed.

If they legalize gay marriage(like Canada)…the next thing that will happen is they will fine or imprison Ministers (who quote from the Bible) for HATE SPEECH (like Canada).

It will effectively criminalize Christianity (though they may allow a watered down, unBiblical version of it to exist)

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM

It’s basically sharia, but with a cross instead of a crescent. Get it? Good.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM

It’s basically sharia, but with a darwin fish.

You have it backwards dude.

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:59 PM

It will effectively criminalize Christianity (though they may allow a watered down, unBiblical version of it to exist)

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM

That would be the King James Bible… ;-P

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM

I know I’m guilty of it myself, but, please, DNFTT anymore.

malan89 on August 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM

A. Abortion needs to be outlawed immediately
SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM

That alone won’t solve our problems. I am MORE interested in what we can do to get people to use birth control and what we can do to make certain that unwanted children are given up to decent parents.

B. Gay marriage needs to be permanently stopped in order to prevent the eventual criminalization of the Bible and Christianity(i.e. quoting from Bible = hate crime).
SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I’ve got no problem with civil unions. Civil unions are ALL about money, and nothing about God. I attach very little significance to the piece of paper that the state issues that says that I am married. In my view, God alone and ONLY God can marry a man and a woman. I share your concern that our free speech and freedom of religion is threatened – but the threat looms on way more fronts than just the one posed by the interests of the Gay community.

C. The religion of secular humanism and the unscientific religion of evolutionism needs to stop being force fed to our children as fact
SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Which is why I sent my boys to private Christian school (a school created and administered by the Assembly of God church — even though I am not Pentacostal myself, it may interest you to know). What I want is school vouchers, so that I can recover my tax dollars that are being spent on public schools. Even if the public schools renounced secular humanism and Darwinism tomorrow, I STILL would not send my children there.

My collie says:

Now, are our differences irreconcilable?

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM

Señor Huckabee, porque no te callas?

And guess what? It’s not a two-man race. Either Huck’s got a man-crush, or he’s still convinced talking down Romney actually improves his chances.

Sekhmet on August 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM

You know, I dislike Huck and his Huckabites as much as the next guy (I’m sure most who post here regularly will have noticed that!) but I do agree that there is an element of the gay marriage movement to persecute those who aren’t enthusiastically for them.

See, Pastor Boisson in Canada, and the Boy Scouts in Philadelphia. It’s pretty plain to see that the Bible (and most other books of scripture, for that matter) don’t condone homosexuality. Thus, they are easily recategorized into “hate speech” by the Human Rights people.

It’s not a real big concern yet, but that’s something to foresee unless the militant PC and other liberal concerns are defeated.

Vanceone on August 14, 2008 at 5:03 PM

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

I don’t think StOlaf was saying that it should be criminalized because the Bible says so. I believe they were saying that if gay marriage is legalized it will lead to infringements on freedom of religion and expression – hence, “quoting from Bible = hate crime”.

It’s a slipper slope argument, but it’s also one that you can see evidence of in other countries. I believe there was a case in Canada where a preacher was charged with a hate crime for handing out a pamphlet that contained Bible verses that were considered ‘anti-gay’.

On the other hand, I don’t think it has as much to do with legalization of gay marriage as it has to do with the prevailing liberal orthodoxy of “live and let live….unless you disagree with me in which case you should shut up or go to jail”.

JadeNYU on August 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM

That would be the King James Bible… ;-P

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM

How can you possibly say that? The King James version is beautiful, poetic, gracious and graceful, peaceful.

I suppose you read the 2008 modern version for illiterates?

BigD on August 14, 2008 at 5:06 PM

As for Huck himself, there’s only one word anymore: pathetic.

It’s just a shame to see a man who won a primary reduce himself to such a laughingstock where his insecurities and hatred are on display. Throwing a hissy fit over any Romney workers now working for McCain? Are any old Huck workers also on board the McCain, the Republican nominee, campaign? If not, why not? Does he have Red Pill as his campaign manager and the “God will have Huck as president” prophecy as his motto?

Seriously, does anyone know if any Huck workers are now working for McCain, or did he just hide his campaign for later?

Vanceone on August 14, 2008 at 5:07 PM

BigD on August 14, 2008 at 5:06 PM

I’m a King James-er myself, but, I if I recall correctly, when the King James translators had to make a decision between poetry and accuracy, they’d err on the side of poetry. Some (though certainly not all) of the modern translations stay more true to the original intent of the documents they were translating. Though, I haven’t seen any huge doctrinal differences between one translation and another.

JadeNYU on August 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM

How can you possibly say that? The King James version is beautiful, poetic, gracious and graceful, peaceful.

I suppose you read the 2008 modern version for illiterates?

BigD on August 14, 2008 at 5:06 PM

I’ll do this first, before I get to ya, JadeNYU…

I read the New International Version myself…although there are a few others acceptable to Catholics. The King James isn’t one of ‘em. Read about the history of the KJV…

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Check out a Greek-English interlinear Bible…the King James is spot on.

And yes the kjv DID contain the deuterocanonical books..

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:12 PM

Bitter.

cannonball on August 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM

BTW the NIV is a horrible translation that depicts God to be some sort of cruel overlord not the loving God that He is..

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Let me recommend the King James version and some John MacArthur CDs, or MP3s or whatever.

BigD on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

I don’t think StOlaf was saying that it should be criminalized because the Bible says so. I believe they were saying that if gay marriage is legalized it will lead to infringements on freedom of religion and expression – hence, “quoting from Bible = hate crime”.

It’s a slipper slope argument, but it’s also one that you can see evidence of in other countries. I believe there was a case in Canada where a preacher was charged with a hate crime for handing out a pamphlet that contained Bible verses that were considered ‘anti-gay’.

On the other hand, I don’t think it has as much to do with legalization of gay marriage as it has to do with the prevailing liberal orthodoxy of “live and let live….unless you disagree with me in which case you should shut up or go to jail”.

JadeNYU on August 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM

Oh, St. Olaf certainly was saying that gay anything should be criminalized…because the Bible says it (according to St. Olaf).

The only “infringement” is to DENY two people marriage. If Joe and Steve get married, how does that infringe on anyone else?

As for some preacher handing out anti-gay lit, I say let him. He’s free to do so. As long as he’s not inciting violence towards gays. He has a right to opinion.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:15 PM

hits must be low today here at HA ..

redrock on August 14, 2008 at 3:52 PM

AP has several arrows in his quiver, doesn’t he? It’s good to be prepared for famine.

a capella on August 14, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Let’s just hope he doesn’t go back to the “Rosie” well.

(shudders)

omnipotent on August 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Let me recommend the King James version and some John MacArthur CDs, or MP3s or whatever.

BigD on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

As a kid, my grandparents had a beautiful, old, god-leather bound Bible from the early 1800s. King James version, but it also included what you call the Apocrypha…books included in Catholic Bibles. My Grandfather was Methodist, but converted so he could marry my grandmother in a Catholic church. Catholics are picky that way.

It’s not just that the KJV is written like something out of Shakespeare or something, it’s simply riddled with errors from the original manucript translation. That’s well known.

The NIV or the RSV are the most accurate.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:20 PM

Oh, St. Olaf certainly was saying that gay anything should be criminalized…because the Bible says it (according to St. Olaf).

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:15 PM

Dude, get a grip…I never said anything like that.

I am opposed to theocracy and clearly outlined that.

Unfortunately we live in a theocracy now. (secular humanist theocracy)

Gay marriage needs to be outlawed permanently because if it is legalized..Christianity will be considered hate speech and the Bible will be censored or outlawed.

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM

*not “god” leather…GOLD leather….my “L” key sticks…

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM

BTW the NIV is a horrible translation that depicts God to be some sort of cruel overlord not the loving God that He is..

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

If that’s true, it might be the influence of the Calvinists.

My collie says:

Heretics! If you don’t accept TULIP, you’re NOT a Christian.

Ruh, roh. I am not a prophet, but I think I see the potential for a religious argument breaking out here.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM

BTW the NIV is a horrible translation that depicts God to be some sort of cruel overlord not the loving God that He is.. SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Where do you come off with such a dismissive attitude about a great Bible translation? The King James is full of error. If you like the style, the New King James is a great translation as it fixes the problems of the former.

God is love but He’s also a God of justice. The same God who wiped out the entire world with water is going to return at the 2nd coming. Then about half of the world will be killed in His judgments as described in the Revelation. God doesn’t change.

Mojave Mark on August 14, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Gay marriage needs to be outlawed permanently because if it is legalized..Christianity will be considered hate speech and the Bible will be censored or outlawed.

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Are you insane? Gays want to get married in church many of them. I think you’re delusional as to how many Christian gays there really are. They don’t hate Christianity.

Hey, some do…and sometimes, “Christians” yelling “you’re going to hell, sinners!” doesn’t really help.

Either way, I’m gay…and I’m in Mass every Sunday.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:24 PM

My collie says:

Heretics! If you don’t accept TULIP, you’re NOT a Christian.

Your dog is ignoring the bulk of Scripture and works of the Fathers that state that we must choose.

Maybe that is just because dogs cannot read.

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM

You know who probably shouldn’t be giving interviews about who would be a good VP? Mike Huckabee

eucher on August 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM

BTW the NIV is a horrible translation that depicts God to be some sort of cruel overlord not the loving God that He is.. SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

You have some nerve telling me he’s a loving God…who hates gays.

If you prefer, I do also have the Revised Standard Version…probably closest to the original texts.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Like I said get a GREEK-ENGLISH INTERLINEAR Bible…then you will see that the KJV is accurate.

Yes the NRSV is not a bad translation either, though it is slightly flawed.

As for NIV check this out:
http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts/themagicmarker.html

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM

You have some nerve telling me he’s a loving God…who hates gays.

I didn’t said God hates gays…

Your gayness will only separate you from God…FACT.

Doesn’t mean He hates you.

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Maybe that is just because dogs cannot read.

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM

My collie says:

Wait ’til ColtsFan gets a hold of you. HE can read.

Not only can he read, but as near as I can tell, he’s pretty doggone well read. I never would have expected that of a Calvinist.

My collie says:

Grrrr.

Growl at me again, and you ain’t gettin’ dinner, ya’ know.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM

To put an end to all these Christian Churches with thousands of interpretations of His word…Jesus gave the keys to Peter…Upon this rock you shall build MY CHURCH (singular), and I will be with her all of days.

That Church became the Catholic Church. It’s still here, after schisms and attacks and 2000 years. Christ hasn’t left us. I do pray for the day the splintered churches come back one day to the mother church. So we may all be Christians….as one church, with one way to Christ.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Feed that collie, will ya ;-)

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM

I never realized Southern Baptists or is it all Baptists are so bigoted until Mike Huckabee came on the national stage.

cjs1943 on August 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM

With every bigoted attack he digs a deeper pit for himself. He makes me ashamed of the whole republican party.

hanzblinx on August 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM

To put an end to all these Christian Churches with thousands of interpretations of His word…Jesus gave the keys to Peter…Upon this rock you shall build MY CHURCH (singular), and I will be with her all of days.
JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM

The Orthodox Church is the true church BTW…the Roman Catholics split from the Orthodox church because the Roman Catholics believed that the Holy Spirit proceeded from both the Father and The Son and the original early church has always maintained that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father…

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Huck continues to bring healing and unity to the GOP, I see.

There is no candidate but Huckabee, and SaintOlaf is his prophet. Huckahu akhbar.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Name calling? Check. Fire and Brimstone? Check. Commenter on Commenter verbal violence? Check. Yep must be a Huck thread.

Dawnsblood on August 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Hey, how about Rudy? He’s my favorite anyway. But he’s pro-choice, and thus disqualified.

funky chicken on August 14, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I confess I have a grudging semi-admiration for Olaf’s tenacity. He’s the last of the red-hot Huckabites at HotAir. The rest either got a life, got banned, or found a friendlier water cooler.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 6:00 PM

…So we may all be Christians….as one church, with one way to Christ.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Sorry. While I accept Catholics as my brethren, I could NEVER be Catholic myself. The TRUE church is not an earthly building, organization, order, or hierarchy. Only God Himself can put a human in the church – and only God can take someone out of the church.

The reason that Christians are so divided is that they can not distinguish between what comes from God and what comes from man. (Sort of like most secular Americans can no longer distinguish between reality and fantasy.) Most churches, Protestant AND Catholic teach their parishioners to be loyal to the church hierarchy (and to their doctrine) — instead of teaching them to be loyal to God. I will NEVER accept this approach to the Christian faith.

My collie says:

CC’s an independent cuss.

I like to think of myself as a voice crying in the wilderness.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM

After trying to gain wisdom from my pit, I asked her to enlighten me. She retorted, Rabbits! Be back later.

The following day, I asked the same question. She replied, ground squirrels! Be back later.

The next day, I ask the same question. She looked out the window and said skunks! No matter how you attack skunks, your going to get sprayed with their stink. Better to leave them alone and let them dig for grubs and eventually they will go away.

I pondered this answer and saw the wisdom of why Mitt doesn’t engage Huckabee.

We could all learn a little wisdom from dogs.

PrettyD_Vicious on August 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Name calling? Check. Fire and Brimstone? Check. Commenter on Commenter verbal violence? Check. Yep must be a Huck thread.

Dawnsblood on August 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM

I confess I have a grudging semi-admiration for Olaf’s tenacity. He’s the last of the red-hot Huckabites at HotAir. The rest either got a life, got banned, or found a friendlier water cooler.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 6:00 PM

I do miss Red Pill though.

My collie says:

Yeah, but YOU miss PinkyBigglesworth. No accounting for taste, is there?

Even so, I STILL have more credibility than a talking dog.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Anyway. I love posting Huck clips just because he’s the one Republican our commenters are harder on than I am myself
AP

Many of us Christians are concerned about a Huckabee candidacy because he often confuses the role and duties of the individual Christian with those of government, which God ordains to be in a different sphere or different kingdom.

We evangelical Christians find a Huckabee candidacy very troubling .

ColtsFan on August 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM

As a Romney loyalist, I’m tired of Huck, really. I mean, really. The constant whining and crying about flip flop this and phoney that is old.

It really is all about religion, or why are the evangelicals not screaming bloody murder about Ridge.

Romney is the best VP candidate. Because of bigotry in the one country founded to eliminate bigotry, he won’t be.

eaglesdontflock on August 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM

I do miss Red Pill though.

Notably missing lately are:

right2bright
upinak
Limerick

BigD on August 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM

The Orthodox Church is the true church BTW…the Roman Catholics split from the Orthodox church because the Roman Catholics believed that the Holy Spirit proceeded from both the Father and The Son and the original early church has always maintained that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father…

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM

The Church of Rome is the true Church. It stands here today as testimony of the Lords promise.

As for the Holy Spirit…from the creed of Nicea:

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.

The prophets…who were around longer than Jesus on Earth. How did God speak to Moses and Abraham? By the power of the Holy Spirit.

And it was by the power of the Holy Spirit that Mary became with child.

Now say again how the Holy Spirit came after Jesus?

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 6:17 PM

I do miss Red Pill though.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM

I do from time to time, too. If you ever feel the urge, his blog is here. Be warned, he’s as prolific as ever.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Most churches, Protestant AND Catholic teach their parishioners to be loyal to the church hierarchy (and to their doctrine) — instead of teaching them to be loyal to God. I will NEVER accept this approach to the Christian faith.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM

The Catholic Church teaches loyalty only to God. The Church is there merely to guide you on His path…where many other Christian churches…well intentioned they may be…are many times misguided on scripture. God intended scripture to have one interpretation….not thousands.

Therefore, one church.

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM

ColtsFan on August 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Glad you showed up. Collie’s really not well read enough to represent the Calvinist view of things.

My collie says:

I can read. It’s just that I keep drooling on the books and it makes them illegible.

BTW, would you happen to know if Huckabee hails from a Calvinist or free-will Baptist church?

My collie says:

Kinda’ late in the game to be askin’, ain’t it CC?

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:22 PM

BTW the NIV is a horrible translation that depicts God to be some sort of cruel overlord not the loving God that He is..

SaintOlaf on August 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM

***WARNING***

Irony level on this thread has been exceeded.

Sekhmet on August 14, 2008 at 6:23 PM

TheHighReverendHuckster “I think that there are better choices for Sen. McCain that will have the approval of value voters.”

lol coming from the corrupt Huckajerk. Romney has more values in his little finger than Huckajerk will ever have.

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

And the term “values voters” drives me up a wall. I guess everyone else practices value-less voting?

Slublog on August 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Yes, and there are a lot of us out here…

Tzetzes on August 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM

My collie says:

Wait ’til ColtsFan gets a hold of you. HE can read.
CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM

:–)

What a wonderful pet!! Are there any more collies out there waiting to be adopted???

Not only can he read, but as near as I can tell, he’s pretty doggone well read. I never would have expected that of a Calvinist.
CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Hehehe.

Thanks CyberCipher, your check (large denominations) is in the mail…..

My collie says:

Grrrr.

Growl at me again, and you ain’t gettin’ dinner, ya’ know.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Collie, I got your back.

Here you go, boy!!

ColtsFan on August 14, 2008 at 6:31 PM

The collie always makes me smile.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Corrupt Huck

In Arkansas, Mr. Huckabee was investigated by the state ethics committee at least 14 times. Most of the complaints centered on what appears to be a serial disregard for government rules about gifts and outside financial compensation. He reported $112,000 worth of gifts in one year alone, nearly double his $67,000 salary.

Five of the 14 investigations resulted in admonishments: Two for failing to report gifts (one was later overturned), the other three for some $80,000 that Mr. Huckabee and his wife received but failed to initially report. One of these admonishments involved a $23,500 payment to Mr. Huckabee from an opaque organization called Action America that he helped found in 1994 while lieutenant governor, and that was designed to coordinate his speeches and supplement his income.

Mr. Huckabee caused an uproar when he used a $60,000 account intended to maintain the governor’s mansion for personal expenses, including restaurant meals, dry cleaning and boat supplies. He also faced a lawsuit over his assertion that $70,000 worth of furniture donated to the mansion was his to keep. Sprinkled among all this are complaints about the misuse of state planes and campaign funds, mistakes on financial disclosure forms, and fights over documents related to ethics investigations.

Any one of these episodes individually may appear penny ante, but they add up to a disturbing pattern. People I’ve spoken with who worked with Mr. Huckabee in Arkansas dispute the idea that he is “corrupt.” They instead ascribe his ethical mishaps to a “blind spot” rooted in his beginnings as a Baptist minister and a Southern culture of gift-giving; they suggest he never made the mental transition to public office.

Some will also argue Mr. Huckabee is no more ethically challenged than Mr. Giuliani, who is getting pounded with questions about Judith Nathan’s security detail and Giuliani Partner clients. The difference is that Hizzoner is a celebrity whose past bones were long ago picked clean by the media crows. Even the Nathan flap is an extension of news that made the rounds five years ago.

The obscure governor from Arkansas is, in contrast, a deep sea for media diving. Most recent have been stories about his pardons and commutations, as well as the news that R.J. Reynolds contributed to Action America. Mr. Huckabee–who now wants a national smoking ban in public places–responded that he never knew he accepted tobacco money, which has inspired a former adviser to claim Mr. Huckabee is being “less than truthful.” What’s next?
- Kimberley A. Strassel

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM

They’re creepy and they’re greedy,
Mormon thumping and spooky,
They’re all together sicky,
The Huckabee Family

Their back yard is a dead dog museum
Where people come to see ‘em
They really will a scream
The Huckabee Family

(They’re not Neat)
(They’re not Sweet)
(And they’re sure not Petite!!!)

So get a gift givers shawl on
A collection plate you can bring contributions on
We’re gonna pay a call on
The Huckabee Family

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Many of us Christians are concerned about a Huckabee candidacy because he often confuses the role and duties of the individual Christian with those of government, which God ordains to be in a different sphere or different kingdom.

We evangelical Christians find a Huckabee candidacy very troubling .

ColtsFan on August 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM

If I was going to be a Christian, fat chance for someone who like AP is an atheist, I would want to join your church.

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 6:40 PM

I’m SUPPOSED to like Huck. I’m one of “those” born-again on-fire-for-Jesus Christians. I can’t stand him. He lost me with his amnesty bs. Plus, I’m not supposed to say this, but he looks like a sack of skin with mangled teeth. He would be an embarrassment. Romney is the only choice for vp or I swear I will not vote. It will be a cold day in hell that I’ll vote for a liberal RINO without a decent vp.

PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on August 14, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Huck is a liar and a religious bigot.

iamse7en on August 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM

If I was going to be a Christian, fat chance for someone who like AP is an atheist, I would want to join your church.

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Sorry. They wouldn’t take you. Neither Barry Goldwater nor Samuel Clemens rose from the dead — and idol worship will not be tolerated.

My collie says:

Oh brother. Why do you INSIST on provoking him like that?

Oh I dunno. I guess it’s sorta’ like polkin’ a stick in the dog’s cage.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM

SaintOlaf, you never told me you were a TV star!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TJLOGI2Odc&eurl=http://www.goingchurching.com/?p=143

muyoso on August 14, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Sorry. They wouldn’t take you. Neither Barry Goldwater nor Samuel Clemens rose from the dead — and idol worship will not be tolerated.

Actually, upon reflection, for the sake of his church, I should probably not try to join it, as his church might then be hit by lightening if they let me in. Maybe I should join the Huckster’s church instead.

Oh I dunno. I guess it’s sorta’ like polkin’ a stick in the dog’s cage.

CyberCipher on August 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM

Actually, I am more of the free running cat persuasion.

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 7:00 PM

It is not normal for a grown man to behave the way the Huckster does.

Does he have a man crush on Romney?
Seriously, is Huckabee jealous of Mitt Romney or what?

Mitt – always fit and handsome.
Mike – NOPE

Mitt – Worked hard to become financial secure.
Mike – Gives speeches for his dinner and mortgage.

Mitt – Gorgeous Wife
Mike – NOPE

Mitt – 5 Handsome, successful and gracious children.
Mike – Oldest son is a fat slob who killed a puppy for fun and was arrested for attempting to board a plane with a gun.

Mitt Romney is the man Mike Huckabee could never be and Mike is handling it like a teenage girl.

EJDolbow on August 14, 2008 at 7:16 PM

SaintOlaf, you never told me you were a TV star!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TJLOGI2Odc&eurl=http://www.goingchurching.com/?p=143

muyoso on August 14, 2008 at 6:59 PM

I thought THIS was her…

All in good fun, Olaf…;-)

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 7:19 PM

So get a gift givers shawl on
A collection plate you can bring contributions on
We’re gonna pay a call on
The Huckabee Family

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Fun-nee!

RushBaby on August 14, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Just ’cause it’s been so long…

HUCKASCHMUCK!HUCKASCHMUCK!HUCKASCHMUCK!

Frozen Tex on August 14, 2008 at 7:23 PM

If it weren’t for huckleberry we would have an intelligent, articulate, good looking candidate that would be beating the tar out of the false messiah, oh did I forget young, good looking. Mitt

Instead we’ve got McCain! Huckleberry sounds like hes’ runnin for vice pres. yuk!

dhunter on August 14, 2008 at 7:33 PM

Huck just needs to go away. *

*No, I’m not an atheist, I’m a pro-life, gun owning, politically conservative Christian.

aikidoka on August 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Any thread about Huck inevitably becomes a religious thread. And not a nice one, either.

THIS is the prime reason McCain would never consider Huck for Veep.

Once again….McCain/Crist 08

JetBoy on August 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Any thread about Huck inevitably becomes a religious thread. And not a nice one, either.

Which is a shame. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Huckabee that have nothing to do with religion.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Does he have a man crush on Romney?
Seriously, is Huckabee jealous of Mitt Romney or what?

Mitt Romney is the man Mike Huckabee could never be and Mike is handling it like a teenage girl.

EJDolbow on August 14, 2008 at 7:16 PM

Out: Doctor Phil.

In: EJDolbow.

MB4 on August 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

Sulla’s right. There’s plenty to disagree with about Huck without resorting to religion. But since I’m one of those “Satanic” Mormons he’s willing to elect Obama to prevent one of “them” getting into office for, I’ll reserve the right to dislike him on those grounds too.

I still think he’ll make a comeback trying to outdo Jim Bakker in the phony televangelist department. It seems like a likely career path for the Huckster. And that’s a great name for it, to–Hucksterism.

Vanceone on August 14, 2008 at 7:52 PM

Huck is the schmuck that Duncan Hunter endorsed. Go figure.
If anyone has a problem with Mormonism, they might want to look at Huckleberry Hound’s past as a slick, holy roller. Heck, just watch him: pure sleaze. I’d go with Mitt any day, (but McCain won’t). I can guarantee that he won’t be dragging his religion into the office of VP. Huck sure would.

Christine on August 14, 2008 at 8:04 PM

vanceone hit it on the head.

Christine on August 14, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Which is a shame. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Huckabee that have nothing to do with religion.

sulla on August 14, 2008 at 7:45 PM

I agree, but I’m still ticked off at how he used my faith as a political hammer and makes it so easy for others to label him a theocrat. People use that enough against Bush and Huck only makes it infinitely easier and also harder to shake off. Romney wasn’t my first pick but I hate that some rejected him over his religion. He has a history of NOT insituting Mormon religious practices as an elected official.

aikidoka on August 14, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Huckster wringing out his 15 minutes.

Dr Evil on August 14, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Speaking of crazy ladies, I think I have had this person on my phone when her computer died.

Sekhmet on August 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM

SaintOlaf

You probably would get more support for your ideas if you spent less time “exposing” Mormonism and more time promoting your positions. Anyone who has talked to a Mormon knows we aren’t hiding anything and your presumption that you need to fill people in is condescending.

I think you have some great ideas that I agree with but to quote Wilde “Who you are speaks so loudly I can’t hear what you are saying.”

Mormon Doc on August 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM

cjs1943

There are usually plenty of evangelicals lined up protesting our semi-annual conference meetings yelling “You’re going to hell!” Nice folks for the most part but I’m guessing there is something about us they don’t like.

Mormon Doc on August 14, 2008 at 9:11 PM

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