The myth of the Obamacans
posted at 11:30 am on August 13, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Andrew Romano takes apart the supposed “Obamacan” movement of Republicans who support Barack Obama for President. As Romano notes in Newsweek, the appearance of Lincoln Chaffee — who is no longer a Republican anyway — and a couple of previously-committed endorsers yesterday doesn’t exactly make a movement. In checking the polls, the actual motion comes from the other direction:
But are there enough rank-and-file Republicans whispering their support at Obama rallies to actually make a difference on Election Day?
As I discovered from examination the last 18 months of head-to-head general election polls, the answer is an emphatic “no.” In fact, John McCain’s share of the Democratic vote has typically been larger than Obama’s share of the Republican vote. In other words, it’s not that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright scared the Obamacan masses off, as some pundits have theorized–it’s that they never existed (in any unprecedented way) to begin with. In December 2006–before the unfamiliar Illinois senator had officially announced his candidacy–McCain attracted 25 support among Dems versus Obama’s eight percent among Repubs, according to a FOX News poll. Those numbers tightened over the next few months, but Obama never established a sustained lead. A February 2007 Quinnipiac survey showed McCain with 17 percent crossover support, for example, versus nine percent for Obama; in a June 2007 sounding by the same firm, McCain still led 15 percent to 11. During primary season–between December 2007 and April 2008–McCain’s Democratic number hovered between 18 and 22. Obama, meanwhile, never climbed higher than 13 percent.
The latest announcement amounts to nothing more than a repackaging of previously-known support. It might have helped Obama keep his toes in the media water while vacationing in Hawaii, but it won’t move other Republicans to follow suit. Chaffee announced after his failed re-election bid that he was leaving the Republican Party, and would have done so even if he’d won. Most Republicans were happy to see him leave.
Are there a few Republicans supporting Obama? Sure, but there are a lot more Democrats supporting John McCain, and that has shown in every national poll. It’s not terribly surprising, since McCain has actually worked across the aisle — to his own party’s consternation at times — on contentious issues. Obama has built no credibility with Republicans in this manner, and in fact has never taken a political risk in his Senate career by supporting a piece of legislation or appointment that his party opposed.
Obama’s continuing reference to Obamacans is part of his effort to paint himself as the Democratic Ronald Reagan, who changed American politics by drafting large numbers of Democrats into the Republican ranks. Obama wants people to think of himself as a similarly transformational figure, but right now he’s having trouble hanging onto Democrats, let alone sweeping vast numbers of the opposition to his standard. Reagan didn’t pick up Democrats by running to his left in the general election, either; he ran on solid conservative and common-sense themes, and people flocked to his integrity and clear vision of an America freed of the shackles of an overwhelming federal bureaucracy.
Obama’s vision is almost the exact opposite, which is why the Obamacan is still an endangered species.
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Yeah, I would definitely argue there are more DeMcCains then Obamacans
jtorres138 on August 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM
the repubs supporting obama are RINOS…wish we could just get rid of all of them.
the dems are looking for a messiah, and they’ll support anyone who’ll give em a few more bucks.
right4life on August 13, 2008 at 11:35 AM
There are going to be more reasonable dems trotting over to McCain over the Georgia crisis, especially considering Baracky’s ham-fisted response.
Bishop on August 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Hmm, Jeromy Corzi’s ObamaNation & David Zucker’s An American Carol will make sure of it, if not already.
Anita on August 13, 2008 at 11:37 AM
McCain should make a one-term pledge and get the support of all those Dems dreaming of Hillary in 2012.
blue13326 on August 13, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Usually when someone begins a comment to a talk show host, journalist, or poll taker with “I’m a lifelong Republican, but…” you can rest assured he or she isn’t a lifelong Republican. That’s where the myth of the “Obamacan” gets perpetuated.
How’d all those “Kerrycans” work out for Kerry in ‘04?
crazy_legs on August 13, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Only dopes would vote for a dope, Republican or Democrat.
Not trying to go OT but sorta will: Read two chaps of Corsi’s book Obama Nation yesterday, and so far it is poorly written. Does he know what a pronoun is? He keeps repeating names rather than using pronouns. Irritating. Too many adjectives too, can’t seem to help squeezing twenty words out of ten. Anyone else read/reading it?
Akzed on August 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I’d hazard a guess that those few Obamacans who crossed over are either sore losers in the primaries, or Ron Paulistas with a permanent chip on their shoulder….or as right4life succinctly put it, RINO’s.
My observation (and a question, perhaps) is that IF Obama (according to all the adulation given Him in the media) is so gosh darn popular, such a nice guy, has the script for saving America, saving the world, well in hand, why doesn’t He have at least a 30 point lead over McCain?
coldwarrior on August 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM
No Republicans support Obama. Anyone who calls himself a Republican and supprots Obama is lying about one or the other.
Buford Gooch on August 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Obama doesn’t offer anything to Republicans they can’t get from McCain. I would say the few Repubs that will vote for Obama are doing it more for spite than policy.
McCain has cheerfully sided with Democrats, while bashing his own party and base on several issues, so he has quite a bit of credibility with them; so he is a good alternative for them if they can’t bring themselves to vote for the big zero (O).
I think the calculus that McCain has been engaged in is how many Democrat votes he can count on compared to how many conservatives he’s willing to lose over certain issues. It’s obvious with the blatant pandering to La Raza, he’s going full speed with another amnesty bill once he’s in. He’s hedging his bets on drilling; he still has ANWR cred and he’s only been talking about offshore drilling; I think that one’s going to drop by the wayside once he’s safely in. Pragmatists voting for McCain knowing his history will feel vindicated by how bad Obama is on the trail; but I think McCain is going to give a lot of people buyers remorse. Hope it’s worth it guys.
austinnelly on August 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Revolting.
So is Obama’s – (or his – supporters) comparison of Obama to Abraham Lincoln.
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:45 AM
And there’s a third reason.
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Knee pads O’Reilly had several of these ass-clowns on The Obama-Factor yesterday, I can’t take anymore of BO’s desperation. He is fast becoming the Fox version of his good pal Olberdouche….quaffing down gulp after gulp of Messiah-aid!
dmann on August 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM
C’mon, now, he’s just snagged that major Jim Leach endorsement and a really big fish, the mayor of Fairbanks, Alaska.
How can we stop this momentum?
JammieWearingFool on August 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:45 AMHuh. I guess that proves that he’s just like Abraham Lincoln. If I had Photoshop I’d do a mashup of Hussein and Norman Thomas. It’d make more sense.
Akzed on August 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I never thought that there were more than a handful of superidiot, shoot-yourself-in-the-
foothead Republicans.Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Not all of them. I work with an Obamacan. Talking to this guy, he is as conservative as they come. Guns, death penalty, taxes, you name it, he’s on the conservative side of the issue.
Since we’re in Texas, I’m not even trying to flip him. If McCain doesn’t take this state in a big way, it’s all over for him anyway.
Kafir on August 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
O’Reilly had a college professor who says he is a republican voting for Obama…A college professor? A republican?
Who is doing the fact checking for this show?
No self-respecting republican will vote for a socialist.
jencab on August 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
has never taken a political risk in his Senate career by supporting a piece of legislation or appointment that his party opposed.
Well, FISA, I suppose, although to be fair a bunch of other Dems did too. Call it “suicide-avoidance”.
daveintexas on August 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Got three links on that post, Akzed. It looks like just one in the comment. The photoshop of Obama Lincoln was for the obvious laugh. Just like the Rolling stone magazine cover with Obama’s glow. Or the artist who made a life-sized Obama Christ sculpture.
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Not all of them. I work with an Obamacan.
Its called a bi-polar disorder, he should seek treatment!
dmann on August 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Quite a lot more than that it seems, from the noise they make on the blogs.
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Well, you could stop watching him, and spare us all the updates on the Leprechaun’s pandering.
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:54 AM
The plain truth: Obamacan = white racial guilt.
Obama or Die
dmann on August 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Obama Republican = Liberal Democrat that voted for Reagan once, hates President Bush, wants to see the Constitution “restored”, and thinks Obama is cool.
Hening on August 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM
And when/if he loses, there will be an ocean of excuses to trawl to continue the pathetic whining about slavery/racism.
LimeyGeek on August 13, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Just a non-judgmental true statement: Whether they want the credit or not, considering the margin of presidential victory in the year 2000, Nader voters can take at least half the credit for electing George W. Bush.
In 2008, if there are Obamacans, they might earn the title by putting Obama over the top in the same way as the Naderites put Bush over the top–voting for the kook “perfect” (Nader) rather than the kook “good” (Gore.) A win is a win. Obama will take it.
RBMN on August 13, 2008 at 11:57 AM
the list of Obamacan’s are those that live in Republican districts so they can mess up the Republican Primary (their version of operation Chaos), and they have no intention of voting for any Republicans in the General.
kirkill on August 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 11:54 AM
I usually get home around 04:30 and just check his talking points, lately I’ve been turning to Glenn Beck before lights out. I used to enjoy the Leprechaun….a long time ago!
dmann on August 13, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Anyone who would consider voting for that guy is not even close to being a Republican. The whole thing is phony.
Moderate “national security” Democrats can logically support McCain because that’s basically what McCain is.
forest on August 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM
I would wager that upwards of 90% of “Obamicans” were never really Republicans to begin with.
It is one of the easiest lies to tell to pollsters, to say you are a member of the opposite party supporting your candidate. It makes your answer much more significant. People lie to pollsters all the time.
gridlock2 on August 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Sorry, didn’t mean to strike out yer name, intended to hit quote. I saw all three. I can’t believe that he could get elected crossing guard let alone be compared to Lincoln. Why do they hedge? They should just come out and say that he’s the Messiah and be done with it!
Akzed on August 13, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Especially considering that, technically speaking, John McCain is, y’know… dead.
gridlock2 on August 13, 2008 at 12:07 PM
There may not be significant McCaincrats or Obamacans, but oddly in my own house, there is a whole lot of sideline sitting. Kind of like a game of political chicken. I tell my wife, you know in the end you’ll support Obama and she responds that in the end, she knows I will vote for McCain.
Until Georgia and $4 gas, I didn’t think I could vote for McCain. If he stands against the democrats (and that little rat Lindsey and the gang of 10) on ANWR/off shore drilling and with the President against Russian aggression in Georgia, I’ll quietly climb on the back bumper of the straight talk express.
I may just vote absentee so I don’t have to wait for the drive home to take that shower.
/resume lurking
Angry Dumbo on August 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Communist newspaper urges support for Obama…. no kidding !!
Commies for Obama
Maxx on August 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I’ve been visiting my Dad and we’ve been watching the news a lot. He told me that he’s always voted Democrat but this year he might just have to vote Republican. He said he maybe coulda voted for Hillary but Obama is just too way out there.
I suspect a lot of people feel that way.
atxcowgirl on August 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM
On the other hand I heard a rumor that my father who has always been a Republican will vote for Obama. Course he’s dead but that has never stopped the Democrats.
TooTall on August 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Cavuto had a guy on yesterday claiming to be a REAGAN REPUBLICAN who was going to vote for Obama. Only brain damage can take you from Reagan to Obama.
woodman on August 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM
There’s one thing about this “Obamacans” term that really has started to bug me. Today, thanks to Ed, I know what it is.
The Democrats that voted for Ronald Reagan were called “Reagan Democrats” meaning Democrats that chose to support Mr. Reagan while remaining Democrats. By contrast, Sen. Obama seeks to claim that Republicans that support him are “Obamacans” rather than “Obama Republicans”. Slapping his name on these people and subsuming their Republican affiliation comes across to me as very arrogant. By contrast, I’ve heard Democrats that support Sen. McCain more often referred to as “McCain Democrats” as far back as 2000 and far more often than as “McCainocrats”.
Jill1066 on August 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM
You know, just the stupidity of the name alone is enough to inspire someone at Toho Studios to create a new Japanese monster movie:
GODZILLA VS OBAMACAN
pilamaye on August 13, 2008 at 12:56 PM
How far left can you be and still consider yourself a Republican to think that John McCain is too dangerously conservative for America, and the country is better off if you endorse Barack Obama.
jon1979 on August 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Not necessarily. There are some former Reaganites who really hate the Bushes; they think that W. has ruined the Republican Party that Reagan built and that the party needs to lose this election and purge itself of the remaining “Bushism.” There are also some longtime Republicans who hate the takeover of the party by evangelicals and social-issue conservatives (Reagan was neither) and think McCain won’t change this. I’ve had this dicsussion many times with a few of my neighbors who have never voted for a Democrat but are thinking of voting for Obama. They are not brain damaged – they are average voters who haven’t seen all the nastiness we have seen out of the Obama campaign and have not become afraid enough of him yet.
rockmom on August 13, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Jim Leach is really liberal. He is also a holier-than-thou guy when it comes to ethics issues, never took PAC money in his campaigns, threw lobbyists out of his office, etc.
Leach’s name was on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill but he had almost nothing to do with its passage – it was shepherded by Tom Bliley, who chaired the House Commerce Committee. Leach got his name on it when he saw that it had the votes to pass, and decided that as chairman of the Banking Committee it would be embarrassing to not have his name on it.
Leach was so poorly regarded as chairman of the Banking Committee that when the committees were reorganized to recognize the new regulatory landscape provided by G-L-B, he was not picked to chair the new Financial Services Committee; Mike Oxley was.
rockmom on August 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Obamacan = Jackalope.
Hannibal Smith on August 13, 2008 at 1:18 PM
My feelings as well.
A more likley explanation to this phenomenon.
/Pheon ma Om nom nom nom nom….
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM
rockmom
I am no fan of the Bushes either. When Bush started with his “compassionate conservative” bunk and letting Uncle Teddy write ANYTHING I knew there was going to be a problem. He talked the talk and that was it.
And I have never believed the party has been “taken over” by evangelicals or social-issue folks. The problem is we elect a bunch of people who don’t have the stones to stand up for CONSERVATIVE values. They get there and want to be liked and accepted by the DC crowd and the first thing they do is bend over (See Trent Lott in 2000).
We have a lack of real movement leadership at the top. I think it stinks that our greatest conservative voice is on the radio and has no equal in a position of power. As great a Rush is he isn’t making laws, appointing judges or creating budgets.
Of course McCain won’t change anything but losing an election for “principles” is just dumb. Will the Party really learn anything? No! All that can happen is the election of someone so far to the left and so ill-prepared for the job (as evidenced especially by the last few days) that the country will be left in worse shape than when Carter got shown the door.
What kind of discussions are you having with the neighbors because they seem to be grossly uninformed.
woodman on August 13, 2008 at 1:52 PM
John Kerry will be the Dem VP nominate. That realization alone will sway millions of republicans and dems alike. To vote for John McCain. ;)
Griz on August 13, 2008 at 1:54 PM
There are/were any number of Republicans who switched parties to vote in the Rat primaries just so we could vote for Barry to give Herself a well-deserved loss. Even where she didn’t lose, some votes were tight. I would suspect that this is where Barry gets his myth of Obamacans from. Go check the voter registration rolls and see how many folks switched party right after the primary to hand Barry a shellacking…
GeneSmith on August 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
That is dead on! Reagan was a man of substance who had a definitive philosophical compass. Every time I hear or read about anyone comparing Obama to Reagan I simply want to PUKE! He is the antithesis of everything Reagan ever stood for – - – and Reagan was at his absolute best OFF script, too!
Obama is a phony, a big nothing, fittingly symbolized by a huge “O” (zero) as his logo. There is no “there” there, let alone anything even remotely resembling a great man like Ronald Reagan!
Logic on August 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
My wife is a Democrat and she says she doesn’t trust Obama with running the country. One of her Democrat friends says this is the first time she’ll be voting against someone (Obama) instead of for.
Kafir on August 13, 2008 at 2:14 PM
I can say that one lady that both my husband and I know (the wife of a former co-worker who retired in January), who never liked George W. Bush in the first place, surprised me the other day when she was bad-mouthing Obama for his lack of patriotism. Her reaction to his lack of give-a-damn: “It makes me sick!” When I heard that, my jaw dropped. I thought she’d be the first one to give him the nod, but that isn’t the case.
I believe there are more Democrats and Independents who just can’t stand Obama than people actually know.
newton on August 13, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Obama (if he gets the nomination) is toast. His handlers can’t possibly pump up the “great Obama” image from now until November. Every day he (or his handlers) commit another major screw up. He may carry CA, Mass and IL but that is about it. Even the MSM has to get realistic eventually.
duff65 on August 13, 2008 at 3:47 PM
I wonder how many other stories like that there are.
At this point, I kinda don’t mind that the media likes to play up the ‘republicans will be voting for Obama’ for the upcoming months, and keep the real truth of the matter silent as they are. When Obama doesn’t win. The democrats are really going to go ape sh*t over the election, claim that the gop stole it, and blah blah blah blah…
Maybe some more democrats will actually leave the US like they promised to in the past. Maybe they will riot, and begin their ’second revolution’. I really hope they do. Halliburton didn’t build those detention centers just to let them sit around and collect dust.
wise_man on August 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Too true. If Lincoln Chafee, the ugly Rita Hauser, and mentally unbalanced James Leach are the best that The One can do re: “Republican” support then he is grasping at straws. As The NY Sun had in its editorial today – the one thing all three have in common is that they are virulently anti ISrael.
Hilts on August 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
O’Reilly had two pseudo Republicans on the other day claiming to supprot Obama – they were pathetic and did not seem very bright.
Hilts on August 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Obama is for live birth abortion, banning all guns, and raising the capital gains taxes and all other taxes… thus no such thing as an “Obamacan”.(other than maybe a 1% that may be voting for him because of his RACE and thats it i.e. Colin Powell and possibly a few other black politicians for example Michael Steel or J.C. Watts.(However i doubt all 3 will vote for him)
Chakra Hammer on August 14, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Oh Obama also is for reducing our overall Military strength..
Thus no such thing as an “Obamacan”
Chakra Hammer on August 14, 2008 at 2:13 AM
His footnotes are decidedly poor as well.
Squid Shark on August 16, 2008 at 10:10 AM
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