Showdown: Bush sends “humanitarian” aid to Georgia as Russians advance; Update: “This is not 1968,” says Condi; Update: Russians camp along the road to Tbilisi
posted at 3:51 pm on August 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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President Bush said Wednesday that the Pentagon had begun a “vigorous and ongoing” humanitarian mission to ease the suffering in Georgia, and that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice would travel to France and then to Georgia to work for a settlement of the crisis…
Mr. Bush said that a transport plane with medical supplies was already on its way to Georgia, and that American air and naval forces would carry out the aid mission. And he said pointedly that Russia must not interfere with aid arriving in Georgia by air, land or water…
However, minutes after Mr. Bush’s comments, President Mikheil Saakashvili of Georgia characterized the import of the American aid as “definitely an American military presence” and called it a “turning point.”…
“What I expected specifically from America was to secure our airport and to secure our seaports,” he went on, concluding that the American presence would do so. “The main thing now is that the Georgian Tbilisi airport will be permanently under control.”
Saakashvili is spinning hard to make this look like a U.S. cavalry charge, going so far as to call it a “military-humanitarian operation” and claiming that Georgian ports will now be under U.S. “control.” The Pentagon quickly denied it, although given Bush’s warning to Russia not to interfere with aid, things are going to get mighty dicey if they move on Tbilisi and take the airport. Charles Johnson says he’s hearing news reports that the Russian army’s within 15 miles of the city; I haven’t seen anything like that, although I did see earlier that Russia started moving towards the city before veering off in another direction. As of this morning, Russian troops occupied Gori and others were crossing into South Ossetia; Human Rights Watch claims they’re burning villages in the territory populated by ethnic Georgians.
My reaction to Bush’s announcement was the same as Ace’s, and doubtless what Saakashvili has in mind: They’re going to insert a token American force, a la South Korea, as a “tripwire” that the Russians dare not cross lest it provoke a wider war. Per the emphasis on the mission being purely humanitarian, it sounds like Bush is eager to douse that speculation — but needless to say, if U.S. troops do get caught in the crossfire, it’s anyone’s guess what happens. If you believe the Times, the U.S. brought this all on itself by sending “mixed messages” to Saakashvili that don’t really sound all that mixed. Publicly the administration’s shown consistent solidarity, and privately they’ve made it abundantly clear that he shouldn’t do anything nutty like, er, invade South Ossetia. Assuming that’s true, he’s playing dumb, going on CNN this morning to say he appreciated McCain’s encouraging words yesterday but that words don’t mean much vis-a-vis those all-important deeds they’re counting on.
Well, he’s got some deeds now. Stand by for updates as the Cold War II brinksmanship escalates. Exit quotation: “We understand that this current Georgian leadership is a special project of the United States, but one day the United States will have to choose between defending its prestige over a virtual project or real partnership which requires joint action.”
Update: This warrants the always rare double exit quotation. Sit back, close your eyes, and meditate on this while you run through your mental list of despots, terrorists, and assorted other cretins that Russia’s been selling weapons to for decades:
“Bush’s speech said nothing of how Georgia was armed all these years, including by the United States,” [Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov] said, adding, “We have more than once warned our partners that this is a dangerous game.”
Update: Well, we’re now in a position where one or the other side is going to have to call the other’s bluff or lose face.
Just the position you want to be in with two superpowers armed to the teeth with nukes.
“This is not 1968 and the invasion of Czechoslovakia where Russia can threaten a neighbor, occupy a capital, overthrow a government and get away with it,” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said. “Things have changed.”
Update: Putin’s just taunting them now.
“Come with us, beauty, we’re going to Tbilisi!” one of the soldiers bellowed at a photographer in a sleeveless shirt along the road. Other troops grinned and brandished their weapons, and one hung his bare feet out the back of a truck. Another, a machine gunner riding atop an armored vehicle, wore a bandanna and a black T-shirt with the word “Russia” emblazoned in the red, blue and white colors of the national flag.
Asked from the side of the road, the soldiers shouted that their destination was Tbilisi — “With no detours,” one said. But then they veered abruptly into a field about an hour’s drive from the capital and camped conspicuously within sight of the road before the sun went down.
The message was hard to miss: The Russian military is still the landlord in swaths of Georgia, and its forces remain in easy striking distance of the country’s capital.
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Where are the military advisers?
Where are the big guns?
I’ve been telling my friends for years the Soviet Bear would wake from its slumber. And now it’s happened.
madmonkphotog on August 13, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Dude.
Matticus Finch on August 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM
This could get ugly.
Matticus Finch on August 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I just knew we would get into a shooting war with the Russkies before I died…
tommylotto on August 13, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Curse you, John McCain! Curse you!
doodleduh on August 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
The Guns of August.
pseudonominus on August 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
They’ve been there for a while. Russkies even claimed to have captured one a few days back.
A lot of what we can and may be doing is out of sight. The airlift offers much larger scope for such activities.
someone on August 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Hopefully, the medical presence includes the gator freighter LHDs, which would be a part of an amphibious ready group, along with tank landing ships, helo gunships and a command and control center.
Along with thousands of US Marines.
The LHDs have very large medical departments, well-staffed with supplies to take care of civilian refugees.
Or enemy wounded, as the case may be.
NoDonkey on August 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
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Fox just corrected this. They report that the looting and burning is taking place at the hands of separists, not russians.
DrW on August 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM
As long as they don’t shoot down a plane or attack one of our ships and we don’t anything to provoke them, everything should be fine. But if it’s time to get it on, we’re going to miss those 10 divisions that that moron Clinton disbanded for the “peace dividend.”
fleiter on August 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM
I guess I’d better get in shape much quicker.
It looks like we’re going back to a two-front war.
madmonkphotog on August 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Bush standing by with Rice and Gates emphasizes a stern warning to Putin and his minions that the USA will not stand idly by. It’s about time. Also, sending “aid” could mean other things.
I heard Mark Levin for the past few days advocating sending weapons to Georgia and its neighboring countries so they can defend themselves. That could be what is going on.
jencab on August 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM
This is a smart move by Bush, this shows Russia we are not going to abandon Georgia to Russian ambitions. This should give the Russians pause and if not I think the Russians are about to make a big mistake.
Maxx on August 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Translation: “We will bury you.”
CP on August 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM
tommylotto on August 13, 2008 at 3:55 PM
I said almost the same thing after I heard Bush’s address this morning.
catmman on August 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM
I just saw a C-17 taking off outta Dover AFB in Delaware. I see ‘em everyday, but that one COULD be on it’s way to Georgia. God bless our Airman and I hope a flight F-22s will go with ‘em.
Tony737 on August 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I don’t get it… what’s Putin’s game here… obviously not the stated intent (protection). All of Georgia? More? Pre-emptive protection against an Iranian strike?
It’s obviously a “message” but why not wait until after the elections with Obama presumably in charge? Putin could’ve probably taken Georgia and Obama wouldn’t have cared because that was “then”. (Putin probably could even take Iraq and Obama wouldn’t care)
Skywise on August 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
who remembers the Clancy book Red Storm Rising? His best work but never made into a movie since the USSR bit the dust soon after it was published.
It might see the light of day afterall.. just change the locale from W. Germany to Georgia.
DrW on August 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
The more ‘humanity’ ‘progresses’ the more it stays the same.
I’m happy that the U.S. is doing something overtly. Make no mistake that there are a lot of hot calls going on in background.
Europe, all of it, grow some and show some solidarity, a word you are so fond of. Heh, that’s silly, to expect any steel from such wussies.
Sergei said it best, no doubt about it, whatsoever.
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Which candidate benefits the most from this whole conflict?
Obama is really toast.
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:01 PM
CNN: Russia says the U.S. must choose between supporting Georgia and continuing its partnership with Russia.
Reports indicate Russian troops are moving around Tbilisi.
amerpundit on August 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Obama, show thy power for “change”, “unity”, and “hope”, and heal the world.
Don’t wait for the formality of Jan. 20th, 2009. Do it now!
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Our guys on the tripwire are very much at risk. God bless them. They are walking the talk. Ivan needs to think this thing through very carefully.
a capella on August 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Oh great..Shep has some woman from South Ossetia on and shes blaming this all on the president of Georgia. He is responsible for these deaths, she says. ugh
He has also said the capital is surrounded by Russians. Yep..not lookin good.
becki51758 on August 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I doubt the US can support a war on 3 fronts. Afghanistan, Iraq and possibly Russia. Our economy and troop strength is stretched thin already.
On another note, if we do decide to engage Russia with our military, do you think North Korea and Iran will start acting out again?
offroadaz on August 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
is it SOP to have fighter cover for a humanitarin mission?
DrW on August 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
You mean the Russians took their uniforms off…
someone on August 13, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Don’t feed the truthers.
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM
move our large base from Germany to Georgia?
jp on August 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Another reason our gov’t shouldn’t waste so much money on BS pork-projects.
CP on August 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM
With America’s three heavy armored regiments engaged elsewhere and the big five (101, 82, 2ndAR, 1stAR, 4thID) running the cycle through Iraq what the hell are we going to be able to do if some trip wire is crossed? Russia is betting on just that, the paper tiger U.S. Army. Not complaining, just asking, how do you put in a pinch hitter when the dugout is empty?
Limerick on August 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM
They sent PELOSI!!!????
marklmail on August 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM
+1
You know it’s going to happen. “This ordeal with Russia and Georgia was staged by the Booooosh administration to give John McCain a boost in the polls.” There, I just wrote the NYT next headline.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 13, 2008 at 4:07 PM
where is europe?
MCain is getting ready to speak live and take questions, where is O?
trailortrash on August 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Georgian President says President Bush told him the U.S. military will also be used to clear routes for the humanitarian aid delivery.
amerpundit on August 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I think the Air Force could do quite a bit of damage.
CP on August 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Wes Clark is on Cavuto spinning that Obama would be the best leader under these circumstances.
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
I thought Barack Obama had fixed all this unpleasantness…
Martin on August 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Excuse me while I polish my Iron Curtain.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Well, here we go again.
I don’t think it’s a U.S. military move just yet, but, to steal from WFB for the umpteenth time (hey, he’s a good reference point for dealing with Russkies), sometimes a soldier’s as useful as a bushel of wheat.
In any event, God bless our boys.
emailnuevo on August 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Body surfing Beotch!
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
What a mess. I’m still a little confused over all of this so I guess I’ll have to read up on it a bit. I don’t have any pre-conceptions about it other than Russians are scum. I’m sure there is an exception or two but generally speaking they are hard, cold, indifferent, smell funny and have a thing for gold teeth.
Although my experience was in Ukraine. Even the Ukrainians don’t like to be lumped in with the Russians.
Geronimo on August 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Does “humanitarian” aid come in the form of gunships and nukes?
I wonder if Bush discussed this with Obama prior to his statement?
All of the sudden that missile shield we have in Europe was maybe not such a bad idea.
cntrlfrk on August 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Vacation. Aloha.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM
W. should send Capt. McCain over there to manage the airlift (and laze targets).
Akzed on August 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM
President Saakashvili says he speaks to McCain several times a day.
amerpundit on August 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Argeed on the damage potential, but I don’t know how a F-22 can secure any ground. That takes a big pair of boots.
Limerick on August 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Obviously, Governor Kaine was wrong…….or lied to.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
The personnel on the plane should throw out some candy bars with parachutes over Tbilisi, just for old time’s sake.
Mark1971 on August 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Italy said it would send 1,000 peacekeepers
William Amos on August 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
heh!
McCain is on live..
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Busy crapping his pants. This is WAY over his head.
Matticus Finch on August 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Push the button.
Onager on August 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Do our Warthogs have sufficient range from present locations? As I understand it, they are not fast movers or high fliers and would be vulnerable without other air assets to give them cover, even if they were within range in sufficient numbers.
a capella on August 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM
This will win the election for McCain IMHO.
He looks confident and like a leader.
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Yes, and Ukraine also.
pseudonominus on August 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM
True, but if they don’t have any convoys left to invade with, they can’t secure much ground either. Just sayin’.
CP on August 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM
While I understand what you are saying, I still have a hard time understanding how Georgia can invade their own internationally-recognized territory. I guess it’s the same kind of logic that claimed that the US military occupied New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
Big S on August 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Obama: “thay boyzzz, sounds like somebody needs a community organizer!”
cntrlfrk on August 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Ummm…Not to be morally relativistic here but…Yugoslavia? Iraq?
]shudder[ in the words of the Joker…
“And…here…we…go…”
Skywise on August 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Dems. Is it now clear why the world needs a powerful USA?
marklmail on August 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Dr. W. -
As someone said, the Russians took their uniforms off.
Considering they have been fomenting trouble for years in Georgia, tried to kill Viktor Yuschenko before he was elected President of Ukraine, killed Litvinenko in England and Politkovskaya in Russia… no benefit of the doubt should be given to them. It was only a matter of time until this happenedRussia’s deals with Iran, stalling in the UN and lucrative oil revenues combined with their crack down on liberties set the stage for this. Shouldn’t be surprised.
I hope to GOD we stick by Georgia, Ukraine, etc. They are good allies and suffered under the Communist yoke for generations. Georgia went into Iraq with us; we cannot be a fair weather friend.
linlithgow on August 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
I really think people should stop invoking the almighty nukes so easily. Neither side is insane enough to start a nuclear war over Georgia.
Darth Executor on August 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Lieberman and Graham going to Georgia, McCain says.
amerpundit on August 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM
No joke! This is the dems worst nightmare. It was either something like this or another terror attack on US soil to be the election in the GOP hands.
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM
We are all Georgians, now. Woot!
Pass me a peach.
Dusty on August 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Naval experts: do we have ships in the area? How long will it take tham to steam there?
pseudonominus on August 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Bush has to draw a line, and NOW.
He also has to make clear there will be no tolerance for repeating this behavior with the Ukraine.
How about NATO making the Ukraine a temporary member ASAP?
drjohn on August 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Neither country was a democracy while Georgia is
William Amos on August 13, 2008 at 4:17 PM
What’s permitted to Jove is not permitted to a cow.
emailnuevo on August 13, 2008 at 4:17 PM
There is always Turkey.
A member of NATO.
Money where mouth is.
BobMbx on August 13, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Instapundit linked to an interesting explanation at http://www.classicalvalues.com:
This was not supposed to happen yet. Putin assumed he could continue provoking Georgia, but assumed also that the US and EU would hold Georgia back from retaliating. When it looked like Israel (with US backing overt or covert) was going to hit Iran, then the Russians would really provoke Georgia. The US would be split among Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel and Georgia (not to mention keeping an eye on Taiwan), and the attack on Iran would fail for lack of US support.
Something went wrong. The classicalvalues analysis notes that Putin was “ashen” in Beijing (he probably wasn’t upset at how the Russian Olympians were doing or at being yelled at by Bush). Someone back in Russia may have pushed a little too hard on Georgia too soon (and said person has since had an old Soviet-style “heart attack”).
Now Putin has a war on his hands and has to save face. He also knows that his BFF Bush will never trust him again, and any alleged “help” with Iran wouldn’t be believed. The US and Russia were supposed to have joint naval exercises together sometime. McCain is talking about kicking Russia out of the G8 (and McCain is looking more like a likely president with whom Putin might have to deal). NATO allows a Russian liaison office at NATO headquarters (for now…).
As horrible as it is for Georgia now, at least the mask dropped, and everyone saw what McCain saw: KGB.
Wethal on August 13, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Second look at Condi for Veep!
cthulhu on August 13, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Dunno, but Su-25 vs. A-10…our mudfighter is better than their mudfighter.
pseudonominus on August 13, 2008 at 4:18 PM
This has potential to be a similar Cuban Missile Crisis. This could be W’s legacy.
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:18 PM
I’m not a naval expert, but I think we do have some assets in the area as we just concluded a wargame with Ukraine in the Black Sea.
I would bet that if any humanitarian vessels from the Navy head that way, a strategic sub will be escorting them.
CP on August 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM
The only thing a logical man could conclude is that Hussein told the Rooskies to resume hostilities.
Akzed on August 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM
How about kicking Russia out of NATO and the G-8.
McCain is telling some reporter that this is not the time for partisan bickering. After he was asked about Susan Rice’s comments last night.
Good for him!
becki51758 on August 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM
I should add I have an aunt and cousins living in western Ukraine, living in the house my father grew up in, on land that was in our family for generations (before it was collectivised and reduced to a fraction of what it was). I know first hand how bad Russian communists are, what they did to my family and to the land of my father. We need to make sure we stop this, or it is Sudetenland redux, USSR v2 and we’re looking at a bad period.
linlithgow on August 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM
+1 big one for mccain
trailortrash on August 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM
What would Reagan Do?
We should supply weapons to these states and get them into NATO ASAP. I am sure France, England, and Germany will not hesitate.
We can not have Russia just invade and take over countries over false pretenses. These are democracies and our allies. Isn’t it enough they brought their people into Iraq and helped us out in our time of need?
jencab on August 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM
We’ll see – maybe her studies will come in handy, still.
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM
He also has to face the prospect that our 21st century military will anihillate his 20th century military.
pseudonominus on August 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
So, where are the British, French, Canadian, German, Dutch, Danish, and Spanish supply planes?
Mark1971 on August 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
How quickly topics change. The summer is on-going, will be looooong, arduous, interesting, the fall too, to the chagrin of “Hope” ‘n “Change”.
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
They counted on America to be passive…
cntrlfrk on August 13, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Why would Putin not want an Obama presidency?
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:22 PM
$100 says Barry cuts his vacation short and holds a press conference. His 300 advisers are working on his teleprompter statements as we speak.
2008 election is truly one in a million.
carbon_footprint on August 13, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Wouldn’t it be fun if somehow the Georgians suddenyl had TOW anti-tank missiles and Stingers and IED’s?
Hey, maybe they came from Iran. Who the heck knows!
drjohn on August 13, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Understatement of this century.
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM
The lefties will explode their bodies, heads already being gone, if/when Cheney makes a statement.
Entelechy on August 13, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Russia’s not in NATO. NATO exists to defend itself against Russia, more or less.
Akzed on August 13, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Now the conventions will go up in flames
William Amos on August 13, 2008 at 4:24 PM
is it SOP to have fighter cover for a humanitarin mission? – DrW
Not sure, but I’d like to see (or NOT see, as it were) F-22s patrolling the skies above Georgia. Once the sky is clear, F-15E/F-16 fighter/bombers and B-1/B-2 heavy bombers can clear the ground of Sov … Russian tanks. WW3? Nah, I think they’ll punk out just like they did in Afghanistan, only it won’t be 10 years, it’ll be more like 10 days.
Tony737 on August 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM
As a very reluctant McCain supporter, this guy’s who you want in charge in times like these. While Barack’s conferring with George Clooney about how to respond, the salty old dog McCain looks evil in the eye.
Matticus Finch on August 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Interesting. Except that Georgia DID make the first move. In that light I wonder if Bush didn’t prod the Georgian leader a little (not for political reasons but to force Putin’s ace against Iran…)
Skywise on August 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Permanent fleet headquarters in the Med (Fifth, I believe) with rotating ships, though I believe there are about five carrier battle-groups on station or en-route to the Persian Gulf.
Bishop on August 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Putin wants the oil pipeline — which is the only non-Russian one in the region — neutralized.
He also wanted the threat of Georgia for leverage against the US vis-a-vis Iran, but Sakashvili’s pre-emptive strike (attempting to cut off the Russian entryway into the country) has forced the card to be played too soon. Oops.
someone on August 13, 2008 at 4:26 PM
They’d have to come from the Med. The Black Sea isn’t a pond we play in. Depending on where they are in the Med, it could take 2 days to get in range. And then there are the political problems of transiting the Dardanells and Bosporus Straits. Don’t look for a CVN to enter the Black Sea.
However, the Navy wouldn’t be my first choice (even though I’m a USN Vet). We have a BIG airbase in Turkey (Incirlik). Just south of there is Iraq. Where is all the stuff we need? Uh…Iraq? And I’m not talking about foot soldiers. I’m talking airframes.
We’re already “in theater” with major combat capability. I wonder if Putin put that in the calculus.
BobMbx on August 13, 2008 at 4:26 PM
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