Comments on: Report: New security agreement may see combat troops withdraw within Iraq http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:46:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: IceCold http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1305560 IceCold Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:55:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1305560 Uh, anyone who thought the Iraqi bargaining posture of "all US forces out" of recent memory was serious is not being realistic. The Maliki government or any other coalition - Shi'a-dominated or otherwise, though it's unlikely any other sort would emerge any time soon - will not push US forces out of the country for the foreseeable future. Common sense. US forces will be the guarantor of a new order - at least of law and order in a fundamental sense, against insurgency or terrorism or large-scale foreign intervention by Iran - indefinitely. This is quite obvious and utterly conventional. Folks ought to really get a little more serious about these matters, and not just take the transparently tactical utterances of Iraqi leaders at face value. It's tremendously in the interest of the US to keep a significant force presence in Iraq, it's equally in Iraq's interest, if for different reasons (i.e., their own behinds). It's extremely unlikely US forces will be out of Iraq anytime soon. Uh, anyone who thought the Iraqi bargaining posture of “all US forces out” of recent memory was serious is not being realistic. The Maliki government or any other coalition – Shi’a-dominated or otherwise, though it’s unlikely any other sort would emerge any time soon – will not push US forces out of the country for the foreseeable future. Common sense. US forces will be the guarantor of a new order – at least of law and order in a fundamental sense, against insurgency or terrorism or large-scale foreign intervention by Iran – indefinitely.

This is quite obvious and utterly conventional. Folks ought to really get a little more serious about these matters, and not just take the transparently tactical utterances of Iraqi leaders at face value.

It’s tremendously in the interest of the US to keep a significant force presence in Iraq, it’s equally in Iraq’s interest, if for different reasons (i.e., their own behinds). It’s extremely unlikely US forces will be out of Iraq anytime soon.

]]> By: Kafir http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304904 Kafir Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:21:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304904 I'm OK with any withdrawal/redeployment plan <strong>as long as</strong> it is drawn up by Iraqis rather than beltway Democrats. I’m OK with any withdrawal/redeployment plan as long as it is drawn up by Iraqis rather than beltway Democrats.

]]> By: Bigfoot http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304890 Bigfoot Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:52 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304890 <blockquote>How about redeploying to Georgia? j/k :) ThePrez on August 13, 2008 at 9:43 PM</blockquote> Yes, we could redeploy them to Georgia. I'm sure the folks in Macon, Savannah and Jekyll Island won't mind.

How about redeploying to Georgia? j/k :)

ThePrez on August 13, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Yes, we could redeploy them to Georgia. I’m sure the folks in Macon, Savannah and Jekyll Island won’t mind.

]]> By: Terrye http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304793 Terrye Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:34:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304793 alphie: Once again, you are stupid. Like you care about the women of Iraq. alphie:

Once again, you are stupid. Like you care about the women of Iraq.

]]> By: Terrye http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304791 Terrye Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:33:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304791 Seems reasonable. Seems reasonable.

]]> By: Yakko77 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304762 Yakko77 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:12:14 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304762 Gah, posted that last comment in the wrong spot. sorry. Gah, posted that last comment in the wrong spot. sorry.

]]> By: Yakko77 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304760 Yakko77 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:11:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304760 The economic hits Krauthammer mentions like the G-8 and WTO might sting a bit but otherwise there's not much else we can do other than arm the Georgians. The economic hits Krauthammer mentions like the G-8 and WTO might sting a bit but otherwise there’s not much else we can do other than arm the Georgians.

]]> By: Kaptain Amerika http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304753 Kaptain Amerika Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:37:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304753 <blockquote>alphie on August 14, 2008 at 1:14 AM</blockquote> last I saw their fingers were just as <a href="http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/iraqi_women_voting.jpg" rel="nofollow">purple</a> as the men after the election... we only liberate, we don't tell them how to live... that should be their choice. if they choose a theocracy then they choose a theocracy...

alphie on August 14, 2008 at 1:14 AM

last I saw their fingers were just as purple as the men after the election… we only liberate, we don’t tell them how to live… that should be their choice. if they choose a theocracy then they choose a theocracy…

]]> By: alphie http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304736 alphie Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:14:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304736 Surely, you aren't including the woman of Iraq and Afghanistan in your silly total, are you Mojave? You guys have doomed them to Sharia subservience. Call it a push for the Republicans, eh? Surely, you aren’t including the woman of Iraq and Afghanistan in your silly total, are you Mojave?

You guys have doomed them to Sharia subservience.

Call it a push for the Republicans, eh?

]]> By: DJ Elliott http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304660 DJ Elliott Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:45:23 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304660 Still the same plan that existed last September and was briefed to congress. Following that plan, the US will be down to 10 combat brigades in overwatch by July 2008. Barring any hickups... Still the same plan that existed last September and was briefed to congress. Following that plan, the US will be down to 10 combat brigades in overwatch by July 2008. Barring any hickups…

]]> By: Mojave Mark http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304649 Mojave Mark Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:33:00 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304649 Republicans freed 40 million people over the last few years. Dhimmicrats and their beloved abortion industry has murdered 40 million in America alone since they started up in the 70's. Equivalence? Republicans freed 40 million people over the last few years.

Dhimmicrats and their beloved abortion industry has murdered 40 million in America alone since they started up in the 70’s.

Equivalence?

]]> By: Baxter Greene http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304613 Baxter Greene Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:12:21 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304613 This agreement still flies in the face of what Obama's core disciples want,total withdrawl.Even though they have reversed themselves and sided with Obama's move toward Bush's "withdrawl based on conditions on the ground",it will still leave a significant level of troops in Iraq. How much more disappointment can Obama's base take from him (changing on wiretapping,gun control,campaign finance,drilling for oil,NAFTA). His positions parallel Bush's more and more everyday except by silly little word games that his campaign plays to try and show a difference between them. Maliki was his buddy a couple of weeks ago,it looks like he's under the bus now. If Powell endorses him and Obama goes with it,the Kos crowd will go crazy.The only thing left is maybe he could announce Cheney as his running mate. If Obama wins, I just don't see him being able to change anything significant in this agreement without bringing on a lot of headaches between the Iraqi leadership and DC. This does enable them to blame problems that could arise with the this agreement on Bush later on which fits perfectly in their only platform that democrats can come together on,Blaming Bush. Obama loves his poll numbers too much to let things go down hill in Iraq after the incredible success that the surge has brought,so liberals need to get out there tissue because they have given their money and votes only to be bitc$ slapped again like they were with hopes of: Impeaching Bush Ending the war Plame gate NSA wiretapping Haliburton conspiracies Prosecuting for war crimes Torture allegations Bush did 9/11 And all the other cut and paste conspiracy theories and propaganda that the super intelligent liberals have pushed in their pathetic little war on Bush. <strong> Barack W. Bush?</strong> By Victor Davis Hanson http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/barack_w_bush.html <blockquote> Almost everyone is talking about Barack Obama's flip-flops, as the Senate's most liberal member steadily moves to the political center and disowns firebrands like Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger. But less noticed is that Obama is not just deflating John McCain's efforts to hold him to his long liberal record, but also embracing much of the present agenda of an unpopular President Bush on a wide variety of fronts. </blockquote> <strong>How twisted do you have to be when freeing 25 million people from a genocidal terrorist dictator and winning the insurgency is bad for the political party you are aligned with. democrats suck. </strong> This agreement still flies in the face of what Obama’s core disciples want,total withdrawl.Even though they have reversed themselves and sided with Obama’s move toward Bush’s “withdrawl based on conditions on the ground”,it will still leave a significant level of troops in Iraq.
How much more disappointment can Obama’s base take from him (changing on wiretapping,gun control,campaign finance,drilling for oil,NAFTA).
His positions parallel Bush’s more and more everyday except by silly little word games that his campaign plays to try and show a difference between them.

Maliki was his buddy a couple of weeks ago,it looks like he’s under the bus now.

If Powell endorses him and Obama goes with it,the Kos crowd will go crazy.The only thing left is maybe he could announce
Cheney as his running mate.

If Obama wins, I just don’t see him being able to change anything significant in this agreement without bringing on a lot of headaches between the Iraqi leadership and DC.

This does enable them to blame problems that could arise with the this agreement on Bush later on which fits perfectly in their only platform that democrats can come together on,Blaming Bush.

Obama loves his poll numbers too much to let things go down
hill in Iraq after the incredible success that the surge has
brought,so liberals need to get out there tissue because they have given their money and votes only to be bitc$ slapped again like they were with hopes of:

Impeaching Bush

Ending the war

Plame gate

NSA wiretapping

Haliburton conspiracies

Prosecuting for war crimes

Torture allegations

Bush did 9/11

And all the other cut and paste conspiracy theories and propaganda that the super intelligent liberals have pushed
in their pathetic little war on Bush.


Barack W. Bush?
By Victor Davis Hanson
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/barack_w_bush.html

Almost everyone is talking about Barack Obama’s flip-flops, as the Senate’s most liberal member steadily moves to the political center and disowns firebrands like Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger.
But less noticed is that Obama is not just deflating John McCain’s efforts to hold him to his long liberal record, but also embracing much of the present agenda of an unpopular President Bush on a wide variety of fronts.

How twisted do you have to be when freeing 25 million people from a genocidal terrorist dictator and winning the insurgency is bad for the political party you are aligned with.
democrats suck.

]]> By: Tony737 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304611 Tony737 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:10:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304611 CanOp, in this case, the P.I. means Philippine Islands. CanOp, in this case, the P.I. means Philippine Islands.

]]> By: Tony737 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304609 Tony737 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:08:59 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304609 <em>Actually we are. At least making plans to increase Navy presence there.</em> - High Don't forget the Special Ops and CIA guy there to help the P.I. to crush the A.S.! Actually we are. At least making plans to increase Navy presence there. – High

Don’t forget the Special Ops and CIA guy there to help the P.I. to crush the A.S.!

]]> By: canopfor http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304600 canopfor Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:04:55 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304600 oooooooohhhhhh Um,wouldn't that be P.E.I jgapinoy on Aug 13,2008 at 10:59PM. jgapinoy: Um,ya that would be right,me thinks I got lost in translation,like an F-14 Tomcat with the after- burner a lit(as i flies over canopfors head,and misses the point!)duh! :) oooooooohhhhhh
Um,wouldn’t that be P.E.I

jgapinoy on Aug 13,2008 at 10:59PM.

jgapinoy: Um,ya that would be right,me thinks I got lost
in translation,like an F-14 Tomcat with the after-
burner a lit(as i flies over canopfors head,and
misses the point!)duh! :)

]]> By: jgapinoy http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304588 jgapinoy Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:59:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304588 <blockquote>canopfor on August 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM</blockquote> Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhh. Um, wouldn't that be P.E.I.?

canopfor on August 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Um, wouldn’t that be P.E.I.?

]]> By: canopfor http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304584 canopfor Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:57:02 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304584 Huh jgapinoy on Aug 13,2008 at 10:49PM. jgapinoy: You were talking about P.I.(Prince Edward Island)? Huh

jgapinoy on Aug 13,2008 at 10:49PM.

jgapinoy: You were talking about P.I.(Prince Edward Island)?

]]> By: dmann http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304583 dmann Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:55:53 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304583 <em>alphie on August 13, 2008 at 10:38 PM</em> Save us some future entitlement money and hang youself! alphie on August 13, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Save us some future entitlement money and hang youself!

]]> By: Maquis http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304577 Maquis Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:54:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304577 I like this plan. I like this plan.

]]> By: MB4 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304575 MB4 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:54:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304575 <blockquote>The draft accord also refers to the prospect of US troops beginning to exit small bases set up inside various cities in Iraq to larger camps outside from next summer - which could be as early as June - depending on the security situation.</blockquote> Yup, sounds like General James Gavin's enclave proposal for Vietnam. Close enough. Deja vu.

The draft accord also refers to the prospect of US troops beginning to exit small bases set up inside various cities in Iraq to larger camps outside from next summer – which could be as early as June – depending on the security situation.

Yup, sounds like General James Gavin’s enclave proposal for Vietnam. Close enough. Deja vu.

]]> By: SouthernGent http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304574 SouthernGent Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:53:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304574 So we WILL be there for 100 years or more. Bring on WalMart! McDonald's! <strike>Southern pork bbq</strike>! Petco! Cable! The DMV! Lawyers! Rap music! MTV/BET/VH1! Ann Coulter (burqa-less with a black mini!)!! So we WILL be there for 100 years or more. Bring on WalMart! McDonald’s! Southern pork bbq! Petco! Cable! The DMV! Lawyers! Rap music! MTV/BET/VH1! Ann Coulter (burqa-less with a black mini!)!!

]]> By: canopfor http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304573 canopfor Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:53:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304573 Our troops... alphie on Aug 13,2008 at 10:38PM. alphie: There cutting back on cross's in the urine jar arts! That will save an ungawdly amount of cash,and even free up more money for the US Military! What say you! Our troops…

alphie on Aug 13,2008 at 10:38PM.

alphie: There cutting back on cross’s in the urine jar arts!

That will save an ungawdly amount of cash,and even
free up more money for the US Military!

What say you!

]]> By: jgapinoy http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304570 jgapinoy Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:50:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304570 <blockquote>Actually we are. At least making plans to increase Navy presence there</blockquote> Really? Excellent! Taiwan needs us in the region.

Actually we are. At least making plans to increase Navy presence there

Really? Excellent! Taiwan needs us in the region.

]]> By: jgapinoy http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304566 jgapinoy Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:49:29 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304566 <blockquote>canopfor on August 13, 2008 at 10:48 PM</blockquote> Huh?

canopfor on August 13, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Huh?

]]> By: jgapinoy http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/13/report-new-security-agreement-may-see-combat-troops-withdraw-within-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1304563 jgapinoy Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:48:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=22292#comment-1304563 <blockquote>alphie on August 13, 2008 at 10:38 PM</blockquote> Nice to see you, pal! How was your time working the phones for Pelosi today?

alphie on August 13, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Nice to see you, pal! How was your time working the phones for Pelosi today?

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