Russia escalates war into western Georgia

posted at 12:40 pm on August 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Russia occupied an abandoned Georgian military installation in the west, on undisputed Georgian territory, as it escalated its offensive in the Caucasus.  The move attempted to block Georgia from responding militarily in Abkhazia as well as preventing a further mobilization by Georgia of its armed forces:

Russian forces carried out military operations Monday around the west Georgian town of Senaki to prevent Georgian troops from regrouping there, news agencies reported, quoting the Russian defence ministry.

The reports were confirmed by a Georgian official.

Russian forces “are conducting an operation to prevent firing on South Ossetia and on Russian peacekeepers by Georgian artillery and the regrouping of Georgian forces aimed at new aggression towards South Ossetia,” RIA Novosti quoted a Russian defence ministry official as saying, in a report also carried by Interfax.

Earlier, the Russians disclaimed any intent to invade Georgia.  This move not only belies their words but also their motives.  It comes close to the Black Sea area, strategic for both nations, and threatens to cut Tbilisi off from its navy.

Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili implored the US and Europe to act in its defense:

Ostensibly, this war is about an unresolved separatist conflict. Yet in reality, it is a war about the independence and the future of Georgia. And above all, it is a war over the kind of Europe our children will live in. Let us be frank: This conflict is about the future of freedom in Europe.

No country of the former Soviet Union has made more progress toward consolidating democracy, eradicating corruption and building an independent foreign policy than Georgia. This is precisely what Russia seeks to crush.

This conflict is therefore about our common trans-Atlantic values of liberty and democracy. It is about the right of small nations to live freely and determine their own future. It is about the great power struggles for influence of the 20th century, versus the path of integration and unity defined by the European Union of the 21st. Georgia has made its choice.

Unfortunately, the Russians can make similar claims with Abkhazia and South Ossetia.  Unfortunately, the US and EU set this precedent several times over in the Balkans by endorsing and assisting the breakup of Yugoslavia.  In those situations, we recognized the independence of ethnic enclaves to secede from their internationally-recognized countries without the general consent of their neighbors.  This is especially true in Kosovo, which had been part of Serbia for centuries.

The Russian military attack on Georgia does have parallels to NATO attacks on Serbia in the 1990s, if one accepts the notion that Tbilisi oppressed its ethnic enclaves.  Moscow can make those charges and claim just as much moral responsibility to protect Abkhazians and Ossetians from Tbilisi as we did for the breakaway republics in the Balkans, and if necessary they can fake a few atrocities to give it some PR value.  We unleashed this diplomatic game, and Georgia gets to pay the price.

That doesn’t mean we can just throw up our hands and leave the Georgians to the tender mercies of Vladimir Putin.  Even forgetting the strategic value of Georgia, the nation supported us in Iraq when most nations couldn’t be bothered, and we owe them our support now.  The flights delivering their troops back to Georgia send a message to Moscow that we will not stand idly by while it rebuilds its empire in the Caucasus.  We need to find other ways to sting Putin, especially economically, for his adventure.

But we shouldn’t pretend to be shocked at Russia’s convenient support of nationalism in the Caucasus after our own convenient support of it in the Balkans.

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Not if Pelosi has anything to say about it.

Darth Executor on August 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM

She won’t.

MB4 on August 11, 2008 at 5:27 PM

Key is who will blink first.

Romeo13 on August 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM

I think that would be us. But I could be wrong. Kind of hope so.

MB4 on August 11, 2008 at 5:29 PM

Well, now… If I were Putin, I’d be shaking in my boots right now.

I can picture the entire leadership watching Bush’s statement on TV, then as one… big, guffawing laughs echo through the room.

This truly, truly sucks.

wccawa on August 11, 2008 at 5:31 PM

I think that if I were Bush I would call Pooty Poot on the hotline and tell him that he can have those two whatchmacallit enclaves, most of who’s inhabitants don’t seem to want to be part of Georgia anyway, but that if he doesn’t get the HELL out of the rest of Georgia STAT both America and Russia would be sorry but Russia would be a LOT more sorry.

MB4 on August 11, 2008 at 5:33 PM

This may be Bush’s defining moment, his legacy. Is he Churchill or Chamberlain.

MB4 on August 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM

MB4 on August 11, 2008 at 5:33 PM

If I were Bush, I’d signed legislation outlawing Russia forever.

And announce we begin bombing in five minutes.

Right after we received confirmation that Medvedev soiled himself, call Putin up to say “jk”.

TheEJS on August 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM

30 days…that’s is about all that would be needed…just thirty days of ALL financial transactions between Europe, the US/Canada, Japan, South Korea and China to and from Russia being brought to a standstill.

The dollar is strong and getting stronger, gold dropping, oil is steady (or dropping), foreign investment here is rising, again, other than the housing crunch, most other US economic indicators are within a range that we could easy stand this 30 day economic war program, and most of Europe could as well, as could South Korea, and certainly China and Japan.

It would be enough to tell Russia that we will hit them where they are weakest…and another 30 days beyond that could well push their economy over the edge. The amount of Russian money in the West (and Far East) isn’t chump change. There is legal precedent for it here in the US, within the EU and certainly under the eunuch-UN.

Still trying to hear something, anything, other than the sound of crickets…

coldwarrior on August 11, 2008 at 5:46 PM

From NRO Corner. But the Euros are too wussy and need Russian oil and gas. That’s why they vetoed Georgia’s membership. Putin put on the screws.

Wethal on August 11, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Well yeah they do need Russian oil and gas! It would be better if the US and Canada would supply it but they won’t.

In any case expanding NATO right up to Russia’s borders would be (correctly) interpreted by the Russians as aggression.

aengus on August 11, 2008 at 5:47 PM

He said the Russians may be trying to overthrow “The Government of Russia“!

pseudonominus on August 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM

LOL.. Freudian slip?

Texas Gal on August 11, 2008 at 5:51 PM

But anyway, how much do you want to escalate this BS to rescue GeorgiaCzechoslovakia?

I give up. I really do. I can’t honestly believe so many people can act so ignorant about what Russia has been doing.

reaganaut on August 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM

EJS shush about the spaceport/black hole navigation thing. it’s top secret. But my favorite part is how we get all the Navy’s aircraft carriers and submarines through it.

Romeo13, how many days does it take subs to get from, oh, the mid Atlantic and mid Pacific to interesting locations close to this area?

funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM

But anyway, how much do you want to escalate this BS to rescue GeorgiaCzechoslovakia?

should have been a quote….

reaganaut on August 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM

“In any case expanding NATO right up to Russia’s borders would be (correctly) interpreted by the Russians as aggression.”

aengus on August 11, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Correctly?

It has already been accomplished…ask the Baltic countries. Russia huffed and puffed…but they are still part of NATO.

A bully is a bully is a bully. Once you let a bully know they have power they own you. Time for Russia to finally be free of the ex-KGB cliques that are robbing Russia of its wealth each and every day, with Putin et al being deeply involved at all levels.

coldwarrior on August 11, 2008 at 5:54 PM

reaganaut on August 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Nobody here is ignorant of Russia’s game here. It’s just that putting together enough power to do something about it takes time. And broadcasting intent right off the bat when serious people and important current/future allies are lining up on Georgia’s side and leading the diplomatic, public charge.

You really think Poland doesn’t understand this issue? How about Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine, and Finland?

be patient

funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 5:55 PM

be patient

funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Yes, I agree. It would probably be different if Bush wasn’t 4 months from retirement! He has to be sure that whatever is done that it can’t be undone by Obama if he should succeed as president. And the best and longer lasting action is for Europe to stand up and tell Putin to sit down. They also need to see what they could face without a strong US president in light of this provocation.

Texas Gal on August 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I think the world should acknowledge Russia’s claims to South Ossetia. Right after Russia acknowledges our claims to West Alaska (the break-away republics formerly collectively known as “Siberia”).

Seems fair to me.

TABoLK on August 11, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Free West Alaska!

I forgot to add that at the end.

TABoLK on August 11, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Romeo13, how many days does it take subs to get from, oh, the mid Atlantic and mid Pacific to interesting locations close to this area?

funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Thing is that Subs are not out in the mid Atlantic or Mid Pacific… there is almost at least one hanging with any Carrier Battle Group… one or two active in the Med, Often one (or two) up in the North Atlantic… and of coure, the Boomers runnin their tracks…

Thing is that one sub in the Black Sea has been done many many times… more than that and the chances of them getting run across goes up… Black Sea is a tough environment without Surface support… and Naval Air to run CAP…. too many sub hunting subs and planes which can stage from land and range over the entire area.

Romeo13 on August 11, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Russia huffed and puffed

Yes but they’re no longer huffing and puffing but launching wars! If thats not blowback then what is. You’re right that Putin and his ex-KGB pals are thugs. I suppose they would have arrived at their present course anyway but as Ed says its harder to decry them given all thats been done in the Balkans. I don’t know what the solution is.

aengus on August 11, 2008 at 8:27 PM

We have a MORAL DUTY to support Georgia not just a strategic interest. To suggest that we leave the Georgians to face the bear alone is sniveling and dishonorable. WE ARE NOT A NATION OF COWARDS DON”T ACT LIKE IT!

Stop the hand-wringing; this is the price we pay for the country we live in. When you put gas into your car or heat your home this winter remember it is because of the regulatory and environmental policies and punitive litigation that we have due mainly to leftists that the energy markets are the way they are.

This situation can be managed in our favor; there are economic, diplomatic, and military levers we can use to resolve this crisis short of war but we need the resolve to do it;

Diplomatically and Economically;

We need to force the Russians to Veto a condemnation resolution in the UNSC. Then we can proceed to isolate them diplomatically. we can convene every forum that exists to issue condemnations and offers of assistance. We can dissolve the G8 and exclude the Russians from it. We can have the Russian request to be admitted into the WTO rejected. We can convene NATO and OSCE to Censure Russia and offer both military and Humanitarian aid to Georgia.

We need to announce immediate deployment of anti-missle defenses to the Czech Republic, Poland, Latvia, and Ukraine.

Militarily;

We have a great opportunity to bleed the Russians here folks. The Georgians are no pushovers; It took 3 wars for the Bear to crush Chechnya and the Chechens had no outside help. With our help we can turn Tblisi into a meatgrinder a Russian graveyard.

What we need to do is immediately reinforce our SPECWAR and Special Forces people on the ground (they can come in overland from Turkey). Resupply the Georgians with both anti-tank (JAVELINS and DRAGONS) and short range anti-air weapons (STINGERS.)as well as deploy Naval assets (DDGs AEGIS Destroyers)into the Eastern Black Sea from the Eastern Med immediately they could be there by the end of the week to bolster Georgian airspace. We can also stage out of Incirlik in Turkey.

Then its up to the Russians to decide if they want a war with the United States by firing on our ships.

Buck up people this is serious but not a lost cause;

oh and before some sniveling turd tries to cover up their own cowardice by impugning me (by calling me a chicken hawk or some other cowards argument) I wore the uniform of a Naval Officer and would do so in a heartbeat if called upon to do it.

elduende on August 11, 2008 at 9:14 PM

EJS shush about the spaceport/black hole navigation thing. it’s top secret. But my favorite part is how we get all the Navy’s aircraft carriers and submarines through it.

funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM

It’s bigger on the inside. :)

OldEnglish on August 12, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Free West Alaska!

I forgot to add that at the end.

TABoLK on August 11, 2008 at 6:15 PM

we should immediately begin issuing US passports/citizenship to those in West Alaska…

BadBrad on August 12, 2008 at 10:00 AM

elduende on August 11, 2008 at 9:14 PM

That is actually a very good plan. Machiavelli said there are two kinds of people in this world. Those who dominate and those who are dominated… and you get to choose which one you want to be.
I don’t think we should be a bully in the world… but we should be the guy who sits by quietly and is nice to everyone… but punches the bully in the nose when he tries to steal your lunch money.
or we could be the guy who looks the other way and whistles as you dig into your pocket… then goes “man that sucks dude, next time I’ll have your back though, promise”

BadBrad on August 12, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Do you really think that the KGB is spending their time at Hotair?

MB4 on August 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM

I think that the Russians are probably monitoring everything from the U.S..

Johan Klaus on August 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM

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