Infanticide, revisited
posted at 2:02 pm on August 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama wants to move closer to Catholics, or more accurately, wants Catholics to move closer to him. Despite a track record of abandoning all limits for on-demand abortion, Obama plans to argue that he actually is a moderate on the topic. He has repudiated criticism for his vote on an Illinois bill that would have required practitioners to give normal medical attention to infants born alive during an attempted abortion by claiming that it lacked a pre-birth neutrality clause that was included in a bill adopted unanimously by the US Congress in 2002.
The National Right to Life Committee now claims that Obama lied about the bill in order to provide cover for his support of infanticide:
When Obama was running for the U.S. Senate in 2004, his Republican opponent criticized him for supporting “infanticide.” Obama countered this charge by claiming that he had opposed the state BAIPA because it lacked the pre-birth neutrality clause that had been added to the federal bill. As the Chicago Tribune reported on October 4, 2004, “Obama said that had he been in the U.S. Senate two years ago, he would have voted for the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, even though he voted against a state version of the proposal. The federal version was approved; the state version was not. . . . The difference between the state and federal versions, Obama explained, was that the state measure lacked the federal language clarifying that the act would not be used to undermine Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court opinion that legalized abortion.”
During Obama’s 2008 run for President, his campaign and his defenders have asserted repeatedly and forcefully that it is a distortion, or even a smear, to suggest that Obama opposed a state born-alive bill that was the same as the federal bill. See, for example, this June 30, 2008 “factcheck” issued by the Obama campaign, in the form that it still appeared on the Obama website on August 7, 2008. The Obama “cover story” has often been repeated as fact, or at least without challenge, in major organs of the news media. (Two recent examples: CNN reported on June 30, 2008, “Senator Obama says if he had been in the U.S. Senate in 2002, he, too, would have voted in favor of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act because unlike the Illinois bill, it included language protecting Roe v. Wade.” The New York Times reported in a story on August 7, 2008 that Obama “said he had opposed the bill because it was poorly drafted and would have threatened the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade that established abortion as a constitutional right. He said he would have voted for a similar bill that passed the United States Senate because it did not have the same constitutional flaw as the Illinois bill.”)
Never mind that the bill itself expressly limited its reach to infants born alive during abortions, of course. David Freddoso makes this point in his new book, The Case Against Barack Obama. On page 195, Freddoso gives the full text of the bill, which clearly limited its concern to affixing personhood to any child born alive during an abortion.
However, the NRLC discovered in working through the Illinois bill’s path that their version of the BAIPA bill did have the neutrality codicil attached — and it got attached in Obama’s committee:
For the moment we can set that debate aside, however, for this reason: Documents obtained by NRLC now demonstrate conclusively that Obama’s entire defense is based on a brazen factual misrepresentation.
The documents prove that in March 2003, state Senator Obama, then the chairman of the Illinois state Senate Health and Human Services Committee, presided over a committee meeting in which the “neutrality clause” (copied verbatim from the federal bill) was added to the state BAIPA, with Obama voting in support of adding the revision. Yet, immediately afterwards, Obama led the committee Democrats in voting against the amended bill, and it was killed, 6-4.
The amendment with the neutrality language identical to that in the federal law is here. In the record of the vote taking on March 12, 2003, the amendment was adopted unanimously by Chairman Obama’s HHS subcommittee. That added the neutrality clause to the bill — which then went down to defeat on a party-line 6-4 vote, with Obama voting against protecting infants born alive during abortions.
This was no academic debate. The issue arose when, as Freddoso notes. Christ Hospital in the Chicago area got outed for leaving these infants to die after a nurse blew the whistle on the hospital. An investigation determined the truth of the allegations, and the Illinois legislature debated on whether infants born alive during abortions should be considered persons and require practitioners to provide care for them. Obama, even with the redundant “neutrality clause” attached to the bill, said no.
Clearly, Obama lied about his position. It’s no small rhetorical matter, either. His vote puts him on the extreme of the pro-abortion camp, so extreme in fact that not a single member of Congress would follow his example. Obama voted to allow Christ Hospital and other facilities performing abortions to allow live children to die.
Update: Jill Stanek was the nurse that blew the whistle on this horrid practice.
Update II: Yes, the action that day first added the neutrality clause and the second action defeated the bill, as shown above. The staff analysis written at the time by the Republicans (linked at the NRLC) shows the sequence:
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COMMITTEE ACTION: On 3/13/03, SB 1082 failed on a “Do Pass As Amended” motion (Righter/Syverson) by a vote of 4-6-0.
CA #1 was adopted on a “Be Adopted” motion (Righter/Syverson) by an attendance roll call (10-0-0).
CA #1 (Winkel) to SB 1082 (Winkel) adds to the underlying bill.
Deletes language, which states that a live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.
Inserts language, which states that nothing in the bill shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or right applicable to any member of the homo sapien species at any point prior to being born alive as defined under this legislation.
That is the neutrality clause that Obama claimed wasn’t in the bill when he voted against it, and kept infanticide as an option for Christ Hospital.
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Questions:
1. Assuming His Holyness was right about his complaint, the question remains: is he so evil that he’s willing to led living children die to protect a woman’s sacred right to slaughter her offspring?
2. Why the **** is a place called “CHRIST Hospital” performing abortions?
Sick.
Darth Executor on August 11, 2008 at 2:07 PM
That’s better.
Akzed on August 11, 2008 at 2:08 PM
If only they were illegal aliens or members of terrorist organizations, then Obama would support the granting of rights to them that almost all Americans enjoy at birth.
rw on August 11, 2008 at 2:10 PM
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/2003AmendedILBAIPAandFedBAIPA.html
ninjapirate on August 11, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Ed, will ya stop with th’ distractions, already!
Kafir on August 11, 2008 at 2:11 PM
I was born in Christ Hospital; it sickens me to know that they were doing this.
Kensington on August 11, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Quite the anti-abortion crusader aren’t you Ed?
Righteous!
Ares on August 11, 2008 at 2:11 PM
I don’t understand how even a pro-abortion person can support this.
If life doesn’t begin after birth, can we arguably say that it ever begins?
Esthier on August 11, 2008 at 2:13 PM
This makes me sick at my stomach. I was a nurse for years and would never in this world worked for a place that had a live baby be allowed to die because ‘mom’ didn’t want it. There are thousand of couples who want babies and can’t have them, let them love this child.
L
letget on August 11, 2008 at 2:13 PM
More like Moloch, who required parents to sacrifice their children to him.
Democrats worship at the altar of Moloch nowadays. Obama’s vote isn’t a surprise.
Sydney Carton on August 11, 2008 at 2:14 PM
This matter has now become a distraction from Hope ‘N Change. Please cease discussion immediately.
This is a perfect example of why we are better off running against Obama that Hillary. He just won’t be able to make it to November.
pedestrian on August 11, 2008 at 2:14 PM
After Obama votes to murder the newly born, lying about a past vote is not difficult.
Obama makes the Clintons seem virtuous by comparison.
Right_of_Attila on August 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Finally. Help for Michelle’s children.
JiangxiDad on August 11, 2008 at 2:17 PM
This is very significant information, Ed. It confirms Obama’s willingness to lie about his past and does so in a way he can’t re-interpet.
a capella on August 11, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Hmm, where have I heard that before…I wonder.
Rick on August 11, 2008 at 2:18 PM
This is a right-wing blog, go to Kos if you want to hear the leftist screech for women’s so called right to murder their children.
Maxx on August 11, 2008 at 2:20 PM
“Pro-abortion” has always been far more accurate than “pro-choice.” How can these people live with themselves? Live babies, completely separated from their mothers, left alone in “soiled utility” rooms to die, occasionally getting tossed in the garbage by “mistake”, the mind reels at the obscenity of it.
Kensington on August 11, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Guess he REALLY wants to make sure his daughters don’t have to be punished for any mistakes they might make.
ctmom on August 11, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Disgusting! I pray some day the American people realize that the mass infanticide of abortion is far worse than the abominations of the Nazi Holocaust and slavery combined.
davenp35 on August 11, 2008 at 2:21 PM
https://www.priestsforlife.org/testimony/jillstanektestimony.htm
ninjapirate on August 11, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Agree. My belief is he had already been defeated by the time he received the nomination.
JiangxiDad on August 11, 2008 at 2:23 PM
It appears that BO’s “Hope” mantra is specific to swooning liberals, teenagers and media types – not infants who had the “Audacity” to live.
/sheesh… this guy makes me ill.
Cody1991 on August 11, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Congratulations! You ignore the obvious implication of Obama’s willingness to lie about his legislative record and go for the cheap shot. Or, perhaps you feel the lie is justified for the cause.
a capella on August 11, 2008 at 2:25 PM
I’m still wondering why giving medical care to ALIVE HUMAN BEINGS is even something that has to be voted on? Regardless as to the circumstances they arrived here.
pb5000 on August 11, 2008 at 2:25 PM
And these are the people that find the death penalty cruel. Just remember, Bush is the torturer responsible for the deaths of millions, but Obama is a defender of womens’ rights. I’ve really got to stop chasing rabbits.
trubble on August 11, 2008 at 2:26 PM
This is possibly the most disgusting aspect of Obama.
BadgerHawk on August 11, 2008 at 2:26 PM
What’s your point? Did you happen to look around here before you commented?
Rick on August 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Foreign Policy Experience = unchecked
Economic Experience = unchecked
National Security Experience = unchecked
Infantcidal Experience = CHECK
Rovin on August 11, 2008 at 2:31 PM
I’m glad Morrissey’s reporting on this; if Allahpundit was on this story, the title would be “The Obligatory ‘Barack Loves Killing The Unborn” Thread” or something similarly condescending…
Spanglemaker on August 11, 2008 at 2:33 PM
If parental responsibility applies for the first 18 years of an American person’s life, and since we now know that Obama supports killing in the fourth trimester if the parent doesn’t want the child, does he also think it’s permissible up through the 75th trimester?
pistolero on August 11, 2008 at 2:35 PM
is that Righteous as in 80’s lingo
bad.. wicked.. Righteous..= Awesome?
or as a pejorative?
meaning that Ed is a self righteous prick for point out that Obama wants to kill babies who are alive and kicking and crying?
DaveC on August 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM
A key question is why a place called “Christ Hospital” was performing abortions to begin with?
CP on August 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I don’t understand, either, and it sickens me. These are living babies! There should be no further wiggle room once it’s been delivered and separated and continues to live! Sweet lord, and my college sophomore nephew, a Eucharist minister, can’t wait to cast his vote for Obama!
Kensington on August 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I find the “Obama = Babymurderer” meme about as convincing as “Bush Lied = People Died”.
Some people find catholic moralizing highly unpersuasive.
I couldn’t possibly comment.
Ares on August 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM
That’s not the viable infant that I knew.
marklmail on August 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Ending the life of a child that has been BORN has nothing to do with any church. Every human being on Earth ought to consider this a complete abomination!
davenp35 on August 11, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I question the timing
urbancenturion on August 11, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I hope this story at least gets some coverage from other conservative bloggers.
davenp35 on August 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM
I remember reading somewhere ( on Hot Air or that nurse’s blog) that Christ Hospital is affiliated with the United Church of Christ, the same ultra liberal denomination that Obama is part of, and that many of the hospital’s board of directors are from Trinity UCC. Since this law was a direct response to the outing of Christ Church, with ties to Trinity UCC, I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t more lurking to this story.
AverageJoe on August 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Agree. My belief is he had already been defeated by the time he received the nomination.
JiangxiDad on August 11, 2008 at 2:23 PM
No, he has several more weeks to screw up and for some other bad stuff to surface. I don’t think he will even get the nomination unless the Democrats want to lose another one.
duff65 on August 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM
How is this surprising for a person who doesn’t have any principled stand on everything?
And completely OT:
Ed, does it not seem strange that Obama ‘vacationed’ by himself in Hawaii? The Chosen One does not believe in shared family vacation then? Why does The One need a vacation all by HIMSELF?
Sir Napsalot on August 11, 2008 at 2:48 PM
BHO: “I’m a moderate..I absolutely do not support aborting teenage children sometimes.”
SaintOlaf on August 11, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Hmmmmmm….
What signs of life are we talking about here I wonder? Late term abortions are typically done using a vacuum type device I believe. Not very likely you’re going to produce a viable human being after you get the dyson out now is it?
Ares on August 11, 2008 at 2:49 PM
May your deeds be shown to your servants, your splendor to their children.
Psalm 90:16
Hening on August 11, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Sure. Obama isn’t actually killing babies, so he isn’t actually a babymurderer.
But voting to allow newborns to be ignored to death is messed up by any objective standard.
Esthier on August 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Well, maybe he was at the Senate Banking Committe instead?
funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 2:52 PM
If that were the case, then that act wouldn’t be necessary.
If you look a little further into this issue you’d see that hospitals have allowed infants who survived an abortion (don’t ask me how) to simply die without the medical attention they need, sometimes taking an hour or more to die.
We didn’t make this up.
Esthier on August 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM
He didn’t take his girls to the beach? I guess they’ve probably been to HI before, but it’s still a fabulous vacation spot. And I bet somebody would have “loaned” the family a private jet to make the flights more comfortable.
funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Obama’s life is pure tragedy, and it must be played out. The prodigal son returns to the father (grandmother) for succor.
JiangxiDad on August 11, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I dont know what to make of all this, but as a first time father with a 4 month old it’s very depressing to me.
Dash on August 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Late term abortions are done by reversing the baby in the birth canal, leaving the crown of its head in contact with the mother’s vagina and driving a pair of scissors into the back of the skull to create a hole large enough to suck out the child’s brains.
This procedure which has full support of the Democratic party was also called a myth, by “Dr.” Dean.
Jesus wept.
Hening on August 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Well, the reason why anybody should be interested in the lone vacation is that “Is Obama so thoroughly rejecting his white half that he is limiting exposure of his wife/kids to his white grandparents?”
Sir Napsalot on August 11, 2008 at 2:58 PM
There are many totally unnecessary laws.
Pray tell what medical attention you’d give to something that had half its brain sucked out of its soft head? Reconstructive surgery? Seems a little dicey not to say counterproductive.
Ares on August 11, 2008 at 2:59 PM
President Hillary, here we come!
Why couldn’t the NRLC wait until after the official nomination to come out with this? Are they on Hillary’s payroll?
JohnJ on August 11, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Oh, and STOP SWIFTBOATING OBAMA!
JohnJ on August 11, 2008 at 3:01 PM
And remember that no medical care = no pain medication, no comfort care, NOTHING. After surviving a vacuum or saline solution (ie, burning) Obama voted to let the baby suffer for as long as it took until it was dead, no matter how long.
As always, the most important thing to the pro-abortion person is a dead baby, no matter how they get it.
JustTruth101 on August 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I think the neutrality cocidil attatched by Obama’s committe before he voted against it is despicable, too. Basically it says “We’ll agree not to let unwanted newborns die of neglect in hospitals, but only if you promise not to use our generosity against us to undermine Roe v Wade.”
Dear old untouchable Roe. No living document there.
NellE on August 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I’ve read that he has not seen his grandmother in ten years, and that she has not seen her grandchildren, although I don’t know if that is factually correct.
You said grandparents. I didn’t know his grandfather was alive.
As for the reason for his unusual and solo visit, there is rampant speculation elsewhere on the internet,as I believe you know.
JiangxiDad on August 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Yeah, but it is ‘conspiracy crazy’ talk.
Sir Napsalot on August 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Once a baby has been born alive, denying the baby needed medical care and deliberately allowing the baby to die is not “abortion” — it is homicide. Obama knows that, he understands that the majority of the public would be repulsed by his vote to allow it, and that is why he is flagrantly lying about his vote.
AZCoyote on August 11, 2008 at 3:05 PM
you know what’s always seemed strange to me?
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Christians, who believe in eternal life in heaven, where a unborn baby would go if aborted, are against abortion.
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Atheists, who believe in no afterlife and this is the only life we get, are pro-choice.
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I find that a little odd… seems reversed…
Kaptain Amerika on August 11, 2008 at 3:05 PM
One can read here a transcript of a Christ Hospital nurse’s testimony before the Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee. In it, she describes baby’s surviving abortion attempts and then being denied care until the die, a process which often takes 1.5-3 hours and sometimes as many as 8 hours. The transcript is a little fuzzy on whether or not brains are being sucked out, but, quite frankly, that only makes it seem even more barbaric.
Kensington on August 11, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Barry Who’ssane? thinks he’s living out a plot in one or all those books i read as a young ‘un. (Brave new World, 1984, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451.) I can’t explain it any other way except to recall the speech he gave about how we shouldn’t punish a child/teenager (?) with a child at that tender age.
davenp35 is right. The irony is that the black community has been hit hardest by abortion. I could be wrong, but isn’t that population declining or at least not growing?
Christine on August 11, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Apparently that’s not quite true. Christ Hospital would offer “comfort care” — they would wrap the babies in a blanket so they could be…wrapped in a blanket…as they died.
Kensington on August 11, 2008 at 3:10 PM
I’m a pro-choicer with no religious convictions whatsoever and I am absolutely appalled by Obama’s vote. What kind of person would vote AGAINST requiring medical personnel to provide medical treatment to a live human infant? What kind of medical practitioner would refuse to provide that care whatever the law?
In the difficult legal and moral area of abortion, this law should have been something that all reasonable people could agree on. The far left owns this guy, no question.
Infidoll on August 11, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Here ya go, troll:
nottakingsides on August 11, 2008 at 3:13 PM
+1
funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Abortion is a great issue. It gets everyone going, time after time and serves as a welcome distraction from everything else that is not quite right.
Ares on August 11, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Christians believe in the sanctity of life based on the biblical truth that each one of us is a unique creature loved by the Creator. Each one of us has a purpose in creation. Murdering a child isn’t seen by any sane person as fulfilling God’s purpose for life whether they believe in God or not..
Not all so-called Christians are anti-abortion, and not all atheists are pro-abortion. That’s a wide brush you are painting with.
Hening on August 11, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Seriously, you’re making an @ss out of yourself, either cause you have no idea how these babies who survive were aborted (hint: not all of them were late term abortions with their brains sucked out; many survive the saline), or because you simply don’t know enough about this issue to be able to comment intelligently.
Babies have survived abortions before. There is even a famous Christian singer right now who is one such survivor, Gianna Jessen.
There
are
many
others .
And, no, smart@ss, we’re not talking about surgery. Often we’re talking about little more than what most premies need after birth. You see, even though a fetus can be viable outside of the womb at 22 weeks, abortion is legal until 24, putting those survivors in the same shoes of any premie born early.
Esthier on August 11, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Spangle, I thought it was just me. I’ve always thought “The Obligatory….Post” title has always sounded condescending to me. Like “oh, if I must – *sigh*”
MsUnderestimated on August 11, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I have to thank Obama for not taking the family to Hawaii, I guess. The thousands of happy pictures on the beach would have been pretty nauseating.
But how shitty is he to do this to his grandmother, who is (her own words) in poor health? He had a chance to bring her granddaughers to visit her, and didn’t do it?
This guy is as much of a cad to the woman who raised him as Edwards is to Elizabeth.
funky chicken on August 11, 2008 at 3:21 PM
So if a child is born alive…when the hell does life begin? After Barack Obama says it does…that’s when!
sabbott on August 11, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Seriously, you’re making an @ss out of yourself, either cause you have no idea how these babies who survive were aborted (hint: not all of them were late term abortions with their brains sucked out; many survive the saline), or because you simply don’t know enough about this issue to be able to comment intelligently.
Babies have survived abortions before. There is even a famous Christian singer right now who is one such survivor, Gianna Jessen.
There are many others .
And, no, smart@ss, we’re not talking about surgery. Often we’re talking about little more than what most premies need after birth. You see, even though a fetus can be viable outside of the womb at 22 weeks, abortion is legal until 24, putting those survivors in the same shoes of any premie born early.
Esthier on August 11, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Seriously, you’re making an @ss out of yourself, either cause you have no idea how these babies who survive were aborted (hint: not all of them were late term abortions with their brains sucked out; many survive the saline), or because you simply don’t know enough about this issue to be able to comment intelligently.
Babies have survived abortions before. There is even a famous Christian singer right now who is one such survivor, Gianna Jessen.
There are many others.
And, no, smart@ss, we’re not talking about surgery. Often we’re talking about little more than what most premies need after birth. You see, even though a fetus can be viable outside of the womb at 22 weeks, abortion is legal until 24, putting those survivors in the same shoes of any premie born early.
Esthier on August 11, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Oh, but not only is he a partisan of the worst extreme, not only is he a liar of the most brazen and deceptive type, but take a look at the management of Christ Hospital during the time that killing babies born during aborted abortions was “good policy” according to Lord Barack.
Jaibones on August 11, 2008 at 3:28 PM
I have not yet seen you comment on Obama’s willingness to lie about his legislative record. Care to do so, or is that not included in the category of “what is not quite right?”?
a capella on August 11, 2008 at 3:29 PM
This is just another issue that the press refuses to cover, since they agree as a group, nearly 100% on abortion-on-demand, and on infanticide – “if that’s what you insist on calling the death by neglect of babies born during abortions”.
Other issues that Lord Barack Messiah will never be pushed on, because they implicate the press: Chicago political corruption, government waste, his myriad positions on Iraq and Afghanistan, his utter failure to govern on Afghan foreign policy, and his record in the Illinois state general assembly.
Jaibones on August 11, 2008 at 3:32 PM
What an absolute piece of garbage Barack Obama is.
Seriously, no matter how many morons vote for this clown this fall, he will never be my President.
Slimeball. The worst of the worst.
The Democrat Party obviously is trying to find the worst possible candidate for elected office and once again they’ve succeeded.
Barack Obama – subhuman sewage.
NoDonkey on August 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Most members of the press are very pro-abortion. They won’t bother Himself about it at all. They think he’s right to take the postition he does. Me, I see things quite simply. He doesn’t want the least little restriction on abortion.
He’ll never have my vote.
Ellen on August 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Great link. Thanks. It appears that TUCC administration, in spite of it’s claim to be Afrocentric, is remarkedly enthusiastic about killing unwanted AA babies.
a capella on August 11, 2008 at 3:40 PM
From Jill Stanek’s blog.
Buford Gooch on August 11, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I’m sorry but the word “infanticide” to me may not have the PUNCH that it should have..
Definition..
infanticide
–noun
1. the act of killing an infant.
2. the practice of killing newborn infants.
3. a person who kills an infant.
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How can he be for that then say “It’s for the children” with the next breath?
Chakra Hammer on August 11, 2008 at 3:42 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=infanticide
Chakra Hammer on August 11, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Howard Dean calls this a “woman’s healthcare”.
You right-winged wackos would be against a woman’s healthcare??
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carbon_footprint on August 11, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Besides the sickness of Obama’s choice and his constant lying, what really bothers me about this is that the Chicago media could have easily researched this just like the NRLC did. It’s just a matter of going to Springfield and getting the documents. But God forbid they reveal Obama for the liar and hack that he is.
Sensible Mom on August 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Barry is an ideologue. That is more important to him than displaying a glimmer of humanity to the most vulnerable of creation.
Mallard T. Drake on August 11, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Yeah, thats where I read the connection between Christ’s hospital and TUCC. I have a feeling that Obama was lobbied hard not just by the Pro-Abortion crowd, but by Wright and his TUCC bretheren as well.
Also on Nurse Staneks blog is an entry on how Obama was satisfied how the hospital had created “comfort rooms” with colorful walls, where they wrap the dying babies in blankets, play music, and baptise them if the mother wishes. Aparently, for Obama, it’s much more humane to allow a baby to die in this “comfort room” than the utility closet that Stanek originally reported.
Obvious question: Why was the hospital willing to “baptise” what they considered a fetus?
AverageJoe on August 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I hope Barack is enjoying the warm temps in Hawaii because it’s just a warm-up (pun intended) for where this race-baiting, lying bastard is going spend enternity…
D2Boston on August 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Instead of being called THe Chosen One, better yet, call him The Cameleon. All things to all people. Pick and choose, he’ll blend right in.
GarandFan on August 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM
It’s strange that the amendment that the NRLC website shows doesn’t say that it’s amendment number one. It just says it’s amendment __.
I wouldn’t be sure that the National Right to Life isn’t the one lying here.
jim m on August 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM
There is a group of people who I am convinced would defend the Holocaust if it could be couched as a pro-abortion position.
jl on August 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Who was it who said, “I’m not surprised the holocaust happened, what I am surprised about is that things like the holocaust don’t occur more often.”
Personally, I would sooner allow Barack Obama to die of exposure in a utility closet, than I would one of these newborns.
He’s had his try at life and has f-ed it up completely.
What a cold, sub-human, sociopath this guy is.
NoDonkey on August 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Don’t tell me Obama is “pro-choice”. He’s pro-death. He’s anti-life. And so are most Planned Parenthood types.
jgapinoy on August 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Jill Stanek is the nurse who blew the whistle.
jim m, you might look at the NRL statement with links and at Stanek’s column on this.
Check her side bar under Born Alive, Obama, and Obama Born Alive Votes for more info and links.
Here’s a post she did back in February:
Links to Barack Obama’s votes on IL’s Born Alive Infant Protection Act
INC on August 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Well, an organization that plans to end parenthood is called “Planned Parenthood”, and people who advocate mega-infanticide to stop a woman from reproducing are called champions of reproductive rights…so anything is possible in the liberal lexicon.
It’s a brave new world we live in.
ynot4tony2 on August 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Here’s another article Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act by Stanek in which she writes:
and this bit of interesting information:
INC on August 11, 2008 at 4:33 PM
I’ve looked at the links. The amendment in their links doesn’t have a number. It’s amendment ___, so it’s hard to determine what amendment no. 1 actually was.
You have to take Stanek and NRLC at their word about the language of the actual amendment presented, because the amendment itself has no number and because the GOP (rather than any offical) summary was written before the committee met.
It also looks like the original 10-0 vote may have been an attendance vote.
jim m on August 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM
When I pray for America, I pray that we turn away from abortion and can be forgiven for what we’ve done. I pray for mercy.
There is no bigger political issue than abortion. It is the alpha and the omega of a culture of death or a culture of life. Right now America is struggling to turn away from death. I pray we succeed. If we don’t, we are lost.
bonnie_ on August 11, 2008 at 4:52 PM
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