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posted at 12:00 pm on August 10, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama has twiced smeared John McCain and the Republican Party as racist and fearmongering — but perhaps that may be better explained as projection. The Atlantic plans to publish internal memos from the Hillary Clinton campaign in its September edition, and Politico reports that a campaign strategy of xenophobia didn’t come from the GOP. The Clinton campaign suggested painting Obama as un-American:

Mark Penn, the top campaign strategist for Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign, advised her to portray Barack Obama as having a “limited” connection “to basic American values and culture,” according to a forthcoming article in The Atlantic.

The magazine reports Penn suggested getting much rougher with Obama in a memo on March 30, after her crucial wins in Texas and Ohio: “Does anyone believe that it is possible to win the nomination without, over these next two months, raising all these issues on him? … Won’t a single tape of [the Reverend Jeremiah] Wright going off on America with Obama sitting there be a game ender?” …

Penn, the presidential campaign’s chief strategist, wrote in a memo to Clinton excerpted in the article: “I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.”

Hammering Obama on Jeremiah Wright? Looking for video of the Obamas nodding approvingly to Wright’s demagoguic tirades on race and America? It didn’t start with the Republicans at all; it started with the Clintonites. Furthermore, the Clintonites apparently agreed with Republicans in their assessment of Obama and his long-time association with anti-American radicals like Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, and Bernardine Dohrn.  They concluded that Obama is “not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.”

Democrats came to that conclusion long before Republicans even worried about Obama.  In March 2007, Penn warned Clinton’s team to focus on values-based voters, women, and working- to middle-class families.  That strategy finally got adopted in February 2008, when it was just a little too late to help, but Penn saw Obama’s flaws very clearly even in the early stages of the race.

Some have suggested that the release of these memos during the convention will help Barack Obama by marginalizing the PUMAs in the Democratic Party.  That could happen, but it seems more likely that these memos will confirm their own judgment of Obama, and help define him among centrists and independents.  Having that message not just confirmed by longtime Democratic strategists but actually originated by them will lend these conclusions a great deal more credibility.

It will also have one other effect, and that’s to put the race card out of reach for Barack Obama.  He can’t call McCain a racist and a fearmonger again without first pointing the finger publicly to the Clintons, who obviously went a lot farther than McCain would ever countenance along those lines.  (McCain all but forbid the mention of Jeremiah Wright by his campaign or surrogates.)

This could also rip the veneer of inclusionism off of identity politics and expose it for the tribalism that it is.  These memos and the Democratic infighting demonstrate the corrosiveness of identity politics and its eventual outcome — division, bitterness, and loss.  That will help improve American politics in the long run as we focus on ideas and philosophy, and not the color of skin, internal plumbing, or ethnicity of our great-grandparents.

Update (AP): I doubt this will give Team Barry pause before dropping any sinister new hints about Republican racism. Most of that is done on background with the media anyway so they don’t have to worry about being called on the hypocrisy, but to the extent that anything is said publicly, all they have to do is tweak the message. Instead of “McCain’s a racist,” now maybe there’ll be some oblique reference to how “sadly, no party or ideology is immune from the scourge of racism,” followed promptly by “and also, McCain’s a racist.” Remember, it’s already conventional wisdom on the left that the Clintons ran an explicitly racial strategy in the primary (mostly via Bill’s mad libs). That didn’t stop Obama from floating his “dollar bill” comment a few weeks ago.

Speaking of trying to paint Obama as inauthentically American, though, can I ask people to please stop sending us theories about his supposed dual citizenship? Juliette at Baldilocks, who shares the same background as Obama, tried to slap this down back in February by noting that her own supposed inauthenticity didn’t stop the U.S. Air Force from granting her a security clearance. (See also her comments in Gateway Pundit’s post last night.) In any case, the question is moot: If Obama ever did hold Kenyan citizenship, he lost it long ago thanks to Article 97 of the Kenyan Constitution. No mas, please.


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I agree trying to say Obama isnt an American is a losing deal. As is saying he is a Muslim (however I do think its fair to ask him if he ever studied the Koran while as a boy in Indonesia)

As for the Race card dont look for the democrats to play fair on that issue

John Kerry and Joe Liebermann on MeetthePress

William Amos on August 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM

These people (the democrats) have no shame. No matter what they do, no matter how nasty they get to each other, they will always use the fall back that they are just puppets on Republican strings, which begs another serious conversation about the intellect of their base, but I digress.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2008 at 12:08 PM

portray Barack Obama as having a “limited” connection “to basic American values and culture,”

Oh yeah and Hilpatine is just a glowing figure of basic American values! Why, she’s the Statue of Liberty!

Tony737 on August 10, 2008 at 12:10 PM

This is where I get the Obama was a muslim at one time idea. He himself pushed it back before he ran for president.

William Amos on August 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM

In his Oneness and Lightness of Being, Obama will not easily look past this show of disrespect by the Clintons, regardless of how badly he needs to create a facade of unity at the Dem Convention. And Hillary has already made it clear that she wants a floor vote. Another blasphemy against the Prophet.

I’m betting the fireworks in Denver will put Beijing’s display to shame. It’s starting to smell like CHAOS.

Cicero43 on August 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM

LOL… actualy, by some interpretations, Obama is a potetial citizen of the Commonwealth.

When he was born, Kenya did not exist as a country. His Father had a Commonwealth Passport. As under Commonwealth law at the time, his son, no matter where born, gained Commonwealth citizenship. As there is caselaw that says unless you specificly give it up, you are a citizen, even if dual… he is by some interpretations a British Citizen…

Sooo… he really is a citizen of the world, as he said in his own speech!

(hey, you brought it up… LOL)

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Okay, I give up. What’s a PUMA?

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM

He’s a, Citizen of the World, he said so himself.

I am looking for an American president, myself.

JayHaw Phrenzie on August 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM

I’ve noticed this for both senators. Sen. Obama’s birth certificate doesn’t look “real” enough to some folks and Sen. McCain might not be an American because he was born in Panama, the child of two American citizens. Big picture, please. Of all the dumb things to talk about.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Okay, I give up. What’s a PUMA?

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Politicly correct term for sexualy predatory HOT 40’s type age women.

Kinda like MILF, but more politicly correct.

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM

(Crawls back under his rock, shuddering…)

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Furthermore, the Clintonites apparently agreed with Republicans in their assessment of Obama and his long-time association with anti-American radicals like Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, and Bernardine Dohrn. They concluded that Obama is “not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.”

Hey, when you’re right, you’re right.

funky chicken on August 10, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Okay, I give up. What’s a PUMA?

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM

A group of disgruntled Hillary supporters, mostly middle-aged women.

Party Unity My A$$.

Wethal on August 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM

mgraha on August 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Party Unity My Ass.

Clinton supports who have not yet fallen under the spell of The One.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM

This is the democratic party I thought I knew.

becki51758 on August 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM

The question of Obama being American is not a legal one, I am sure he is an American. The lack of authenticity comes from his perspective and his experience.

Terrye on August 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Ed wrote:
It will also have one other effect, and that’s to put the race card out of reach for Barack Obama. He can’t call McCain a racist and a fearmonger again without first pointing the finger publicly to the Clintons

The race card was placed out of reach of Obama after McCain called him on his “and did I mention he’s black” and “dollar bill” comments. I dare him to race-bait again. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson in “Pulp Fiction”, I dare ya, I DOUBLE dare ya, m*****f*****, race-bait one more g**d*** time!

Paul-Cincy on August 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM

The divisions in the Democratic Party are not over yet. Hillary! is supposed to campaign for the Chosen One, yet her campaign debt has yet to be retired. You don’t stand between a Clinton and money. She still has $12 million of her/Bill’s money that was used in her campaign. Anything she does say to support the Messiah is going to be blunted by film clips of what she said during her campaign. The “release” of her campaign memo’s in September seems very fortitious. Does anyone question the timing?

Denver! Denver! Denver!

GarandFan on August 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Okay, I give up. What’s a PUMA?

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM

PUMA in Wikipedia

Some of the PUMA blogs, especially the ones by Democrats for McCain, are the best place for unadulterated, 99 44/100% pure Obama-ragging, without competition from McCain-hating True Conservatives. Unfortunately, you also have to deal with nauseating levels of Hillary idolization. Feelings will differ regarding the Obama rumor-mongering along the lines of “the Whitey Tape” – which last I checked Larry Johnson was still standing behind. He and his co-bloggers are also still pushing the various Birth Certificate and deep dark secrets in Obama’s Hawaiian-Indonesian-Kenyan-Pakistani past stuff. I find the material somewhat entertaining, but am still waiting for the rumormongers to show me the money. The anonymous blogger at http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/, apparently a disaffected Chicago Democrat, also keeps an eye on that kind of stuff, but is better for sheer, highly personal ire directed at the Obamas, whom she claims to have dealth with personally. Hillbuzz openly supports McCain, frequently posts funny anti-O graphics and videos, was boosting a McCain-Palin ticket, and maintains a roll of links to other Puma blogs.

It’s amusing also to observe the war on the PUMAs at places like Talkleft.com, which backed Hillary in the primaries, but now officially backs Obama. Despite numerous rules against even mentioning PUMA at the site, the comments threads frequently turn into anti-Obama free-for-alls.

The fear and loathing among many rank-and-file Democrats about their candidate can be very refreshing to observe.

CK MacLeod on August 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM

How can the Clintons even think of attending the Convention after revelations like these? There is only one reason.
Floor vote and KAOS. It’s gonna be sooooo much fun to watch.

AnthonyK on August 10, 2008 at 12:42 PM

OK- Floor vote and KAOS are two reasons. I revise my remark.
LOL

AnthonyK on August 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM

I get the sense of rival media titans pulling strings in a puppet show.

First, the National Enquirer confounds Obama by revealing that the democrat voters’ top preference for his VP is a complete phony.

Now the Atlantic pours acid in Hillary’s face just as she’s primping herself for the convention.

But wait, Obama looks incompetent in both stories. A fool for not vetting Edwards, and a clown for playing the race card against the wrong target. Maybe the leaks on Edwards and Hillary are actually tied to a bigger fish who is out to make Obama’s life a living hell?

John McCain, you magnificent bastard!

jeff_from_mpls on August 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM

jeff_from_mpls on August 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Oh what a tangled web we weave…. :):) Great stuff!

AnthonyK on August 10, 2008 at 12:55 PM

I think Obama understands the concerns of Americans. Unless the American didn’t go to Harvard. Those who didn’t go to Harvard he doesn’t have a clue what they think or feel. So I’ve always wondered how he can unite with people he doesn’t have a clue about. McCain seems to have some of the same problems uniting with Republicans.

snaggletoothie on August 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM

It’s Obama’s cartoonish opinions about America that make me think he doesn’t really ‘get’ America. Not his background, not his color.
Even when he was trying to diffuse the whole Wright controversy, everything he said was about what he’d learned as he traveled this country during his campaign.

I don’t like that being lumped into the term xenophobia. That isn’t it. It is about Obama himself, not about some “other”-ness, and I think it was a valid thing to explore in a campaign.

MayBee on August 10, 2008 at 1:01 PM

Politicly correct term for sexualy predatory HOT 40’s type age women.

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM

I believe that would be a “cougar”. Look for fake breasts, dyed hair, a face lift, expensive shoes, and a martini.

Jaibones on August 10, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Jaibones on August 10, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Actualy Puma came in on the online dating sites a couple of years ago… not really common, but it was out there… Never could figure out the distinction between Puma and Cougar, seeing as how in real life they are the same critter… may be a central US slang thing though…

Amused me when the Clintonites took that name though…

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM

As for the right approach on Obama, the only reference I would be making on race would be to constantly and pointedly ask the public “why is Obama constantly talking about race? Why do Democrats believe that every issue relates somehow to race?”

This is how you stop Obama from talking about race. Sadly, it will also keep race a central part of the campaign, if that’s what he wants. The only reason he would want that is if he thinks it helps him.

I would happily make race the central theme of this campaign, but only to crush the racists and identity politics hucksters in the Democrat party. Keep talking about how race doesn’t matter, and keep wondering why Obama thinks it does. Keep ripping the race hucksters that back Obama – the Jackson Five, Fat Albert, the NAACP, the Urban League, the Jewish Far Left, the academy, the entire liberal political power structure – and keep calling them racists.

We can play this game, too.

And Penn is absolutely right: hammer him over and over on Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, and Pfleger. Three out of four are white – not racist!

Jaibones on August 10, 2008 at 1:11 PM

What I wonder is, how in the holy heck did they get ahold of internal emails?

Who’s the mole? This is explosive–carries Dem infighting to new heights…depths.

PattyJ on August 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Amused me when the Clintonites took that name though…

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM

See…I learn something new every day. That image would be an improvement for Hillary, and retch-inducing at the same time.

Jaibones on August 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Hammering Obama on Jeremiah Wright? Looking for video of the Obamas nodding approvingly to Wright’s demagoguic tirades on race and America? It didn’t start with the Republicans at all; it started with the Clintonites. Furthermore, the Clintonites apparently agreed with Republicans in their assessment of Obama and his long-time association with anti-American radicals like Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, and Bernardine Dohrn. They concluded that Obama is “not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.”

Why would that be injecting race into the race? I think accepting that premise takes these very real issues off the table for Republicans.

On the other hand, even if a memo says to point out his skin color and is signed by Hillary herself it’ll all go down the memory hole and McCain’s camp will get blamed. Keep in mind it was Al Gore that introduced Willie Horton to the 1988 campaign.

RW_theoriginal on August 10, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Some have suggested that the release of these memos during the convention will help Barack Obama by marginalizing the PUMAs in the Democratic Party.

I thought they wanted to get PUMAs to support Obama rather than marginalizing them. I don’t think the Obama campaign can afford to marginalize any more voters at this point.

forest on August 10, 2008 at 1:14 PM

“I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.”

Neither can I.

Mr. Citizen of the World Obama should take his favorite reading material (The Post-American World) and his distaste for the concept of “American exceptionalism” to the place where it belongs: The United Nations.
He should be running for the top spot there, not in D.C.

AZCoyote on August 10, 2008 at 1:14 PM

AZCoyote on August 10, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Awww… don’t worry, Barry does not need them because he is campaigning in all 57 States… while McCain is only campainging in 50!

Lots of electoral votes in those extra 7 States ya know!

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 1:17 PM

Party Unity My Ass.

Actually, this sounds a lot like McCain until the microsecond after he won the party nomination, at which point he became a rabid party-unity supporter.

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 1:29 PM

The divisions in the Democratic Party are not over yet. Hillary! is supposed to campaign for the Chosen One, yet her campaign debt has yet to be retired. You don’t stand between a Clinton and money. She still has $12 million of her/Bill’s money that was used in her campaign. Anything she does say to support the Messiah is going to be blunted by film clips of what she said during her campaign. The “release” of her campaign memo’s in September seems very fortitious. Does anyone question the timing?

Denver! Denver! Denver!

GarandFan on August 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Hillary could make that twelve million back with one divorce and a tell all book of the past twenty years. Then sit back in the Senate and become another Pelosi “I’m trying to save the planet” curmudgeon.

Rovin on August 10, 2008 at 1:29 PM

Now that Obama is the presumptive nominee, The One has adopted positions not that different from McCain.

If it here not for his previous positions & associations and his many gaffes when away from a teleprompter, you’d think Obama has suddenly embraced American values.

Right_of_Attila on August 10, 2008 at 1:39 PM

I’ve ordered a case of popcorn (kettle corn flavor) – hope it’s enough.

HawaiiLwyr on August 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4375

Canadian press reports Obama not a US citizen and not qualified to be POTUS, National Enquirer next?

Mainstream press ? Oh yea their too busy trying to get the Obammunist elected

dhunter on August 10, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Tralala.

Will the DNC Convention allow Hillary her supporters’ vote? Does Hillary dare tempt fate at a re-vote? Pretty cool, her speech timed to align with Womens Suffrage.

maverick muse on August 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM

National Enquirer next?

Mainstream press ? Oh yea their too busy trying to get the Obammunist elected

dhunter on August 10, 2008 at 2:01 PM

I wouldn’t Dis the Enquirer… they’ve broken some pretty important stories over the years… Like the Edward’s affair… and have very very seldom been prooven wrong…

Or, to take Barrys’ line… I don’t think this is the Enquirer you used to know…

Romeo13 on August 10, 2008 at 2:18 PM

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 1:29 PM

I know, the choices this year are Moron and Pain in the Ass. Lucky for Pain in the Ass, he is still more qualified.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Romeo13, I am most certainly not dissing the Enquirer they just “Pinned the Tale on a whole bunch of Donkeys”.

They can do it again by investigating the claims in the link I provided and actually reporting on them, can’t rely on mainstream media or clueless RNC to do it.

dhunter on August 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Right_of_Attila on August 10, 2008 at 1:39 PM

So every crisis or question that comes up Sen. Obama can just say, “Yeah, er ah oh, like he said.” I guess if Sen. Obama wins he will have to hope Sen. McCain is available for comment first. It’s a strategy.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2008 at 2:35 PM

“This is where I get the Obama was a muslim at one time idea. He himself pushed it back before he ran for president.”
William Amos
I listened to the clip but didn’t hear anything about BO being a Muslim, even when he was young. I know that he attended a madrasa for several years but I haven’t heard anything about being a Muslim except for the connection with Wright, (and Trinity Church,) and Farakan.
I truly cannot believe that Michelle would tolerate a Muslim lifestyle, being an ultra-liberated female and all. Having said that, she’s no (true) Christian either.
…I can’t wait for the memo game to begin.

Christine on August 10, 2008 at 3:22 PM

To clarify: I haven’t heard any Muslim connection (thru the media) except with Trinity Church. Perhaps the books out about him, such as Jerome Corsi’s book (ObamaNation) will fill in the ‘missing years’ of the Obamessiah.

Christine on August 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM

Juliette at Baldilocks, who shares the same background as Obama, tried to slap this down back in February by noting that her own supposed inauthenticity didn’t stop the U.S. Air Force from granting her a security clearance.

Ed, while I’m not a conspiricy theorist on Obama’s nationality, one can’t use the fact that one got a security clearance in the Air Force as proof. I’ve been in the USAF for 27 years and know personally several foriegn born nationals who became US citizens and got securtity clearances in the USAF. Again, though, I don’t see any proof that Obama’s a foriegn born national yet.

Big John on August 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Americans have always voted into office someone who eptiomizes the stereotypical version of an American. That is, someone whose ancestors came from where America originated, the United Kingdom. If you look at the names of all the presidents in the 20th century, they’re typically one or two syllable Anglo-Saxon sounding names (with a smattering of Irish), except for war heroes. We have Taft, Harding, Cooledge, Hoover, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush. The war heroes included Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower who had more ethnic sounding names. (I believe FDR traded on his famous cousin’s name.) So, will the American voters pick an Barack Hussein Obama, whose name and ethnicity are not representative of a stereotypical American, or will they choose John McCain, whose name is? I’d wager on the latter. But America is changing, and it may not be long before people of other ethnic backgrounds will be voted in by an American majority of people who came from the rest of the world.

NNtrancer on August 10, 2008 at 3:47 PM

The best website I know of that goes into Obama’s background in detail is http://www.theobamafile.com.

NNtrancer on August 10, 2008 at 3:51 PM

“…perhaps that may be better explained as projection.”

I’m convinced that this is the driving force behind most of the far left’s political doctrine, and why their squeals of indignation are so loud when one rips away their tissues of self-delusion: they know it to be true.

As for ‘obama is a muslim; not a citizen; forge birth certificate; yadda-yadda. Agreed. Enough already. Non issues. Like that of McCain being a citizen of Panama because daddy was stationed there when baby McCain was born.

All anyone has to focus on about the obamanator is what we know to be true: the man’s a marxist at his core & puppet of George Soros.

The rest is foul & pointless.

locomotivebreath1901 on August 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM

I know, the choices this year are Moron and Pain in the Ass. Lucky for Pain in the Ass, he is still more qualified.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM

I totally agree.

rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I totally agree. rmgraha on August 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM

motion seconded.

I’m looking forward to fighting with McCain for the next 4 years. The alternative is unthinkable.

Edwards was the Dhimmicrats best shot and look what’s happened to him.

Mojave Mark on August 10, 2008 at 4:39 PM

It will also have one other effect, and that’s to put the race card out of reach for Barack Obama. He can’t call McCain a racist and a fearmonger again without first pointing the finger publicly to the Clintons

Sure he can. This is Obama we’re talking about. Whatever he says today has nothing to do with whatever was said or done yesterday.

The thing that killed me was the columnist who tried to make out that Obama was joking when he made those “race card” statements. “And did I mention he’s black? … He doesn’t look like all those other Presidents on the currency” BWAAAhahahaha. We’ve all seen what a great sense of humor the man has, you know. (wish I could remember who wrote that, I’d give you the link)

Rosmerta on August 10, 2008 at 5:29 PM

I’m surprised yet unsurprised at the same time.

I’m quite conflicted.

Sir Andrew on August 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM

This could also rip the veneer of inclusionism off of identity politics and expose it for the tribalism that it is. These memos and the Democratic infighting demonstrate the corrosiveness of identity politics and its eventual outcome — division, bitterness, and loss. That will help improve American politics in the long run as we focus on ideas and philosophy, and not the color of skin, internal plumbing, or ethnicity of our great-grandparents

Amen

Janos Hunyadi on August 10, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Ed, while I’m not a conspiricy theorist on Obama’s nationality, one can’t use the fact that one got a security clearance in the Air Force as proof. I’ve been in the USAF for 27 years and know personally several foriegn born nationals who became US citizens and got securtity clearances in the USAF. Again, though, I don’t see any proof that Obama’s a foriegn born national yet.

Big John on August 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM

It depends on the type of clearance that you’re up for. For the one I had, it was a definite ‘no’ for naturalized citizens to be considered.

baldilocks on August 10, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Oh yeah, thanks for the link, Ed.

baldilocks on August 10, 2008 at 8:52 PM

One more thing: for the job I did, the USAF didn’t even allow applicants who had one parent who wasn’t a US citizen, regardless of native-born status. They waivered me because I hadn’t had any contact with the African side of my family for ten years. That ought to indicate how serious the AF was about ‘no foreigners’ in that particular field.

The upshot: if all that stuff about Obama’s citizenship were true, it would be true for me also. I would have had to have been naturalized and I would have never worked in the AFSC in question.

But none of that is true.

Thing is, Obama’s list of negatives is becoming so unwieldy it’s difficult for people to keep track of whether they’ve been address or not.

baldilocks on August 10, 2008 at 9:10 PM

That will help improve American politics in the long run as we focus on ideas and philosophy, and not the color of skin, internal plumbing, or ethnicity of our great-grandparents.

I don’t think you have any foundation for reducing the differences between men and women to “internal plumbing.”

Kralizec on August 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

This is where I get my thought on Obama’s duel citizenship.

From what’s written there, his time in Indonesia looks a lot murkier than whatever people might say about his time in Kenya.

Vatican Watcher on August 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM

Speaking of trying to paint Obama as inauthentically American, though, can I ask people to please stop sending us theories about his supposed dual citizenship?

AP

I thought that went pretty well, don’t you?

Jaibones on August 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM

The bottom line is, the Democratic Party, in a year in which every star should have been aligned for them to win, picked two possible nominees who were and are manifestly unsuited to be President.

It hasn’t got a damned thing to do with his ethnicity, or her gender. It has everything to do with the fact that both are products of the Chicago Daley political machine, one of the most corrupt and incompetent organizations of its type in history (even Tammany Hall and the Cleveland Crew aren’t up to Chicago standards on either one).

Obama came to national prominence from that machine via Harvard, where he apparently learned that the “common people” exist to be used, not respected and certainly not cared about. He also apparently learned a lot about how hating America pays big dividends in Democratic Party circles.

Hillary came from the same source via first the Senate Watergate Committee (where she learned that “the ends justify the means”), and then Hot Springs, AK, the Mos Eisely Spaceport of Southern politics (”You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy”). Anyone who still believes the whole “Man From Plains” act needs to look at a map of the state. While Obama was matriculating under William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Hillary was doing likewise under Saul Alinsky. Different streams, but leading back to the same headwater. (Hint; it’s not the source of the Nile.)

Any way you look at it, who these two characters are now is the product of their own conscious choices along the road, just like most of us. And in their case, the choices were apparently motivated by a single thought;

I want power, and I don’t care who I have to step on to get it.

I find it ironic that it is the debate over energy policy that seems to be what may finally derail their collective train. After all, energy is power, as well. (Defined as “the ability to do work”.) Something that these two are totally incapable of. And when things don’t go their way, they both look for scapegoats to punish.

That is not the stuff of leadership. You’d think that by now, the Democratic party would understand that.

Since they obviously don’t, I think it’s time we explained it to them again.

By voting “no” on their Messiah.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 11, 2008 at 8:04 AM

All anyone has to focus on about the obamanator is what we know to be true: the man’s a marxist at his core & puppet of George Soros.locomotivebreath1901 on August 10, 2008 at 4:02PM

Bingo…

Nice post eon!

Keemo on August 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM

eon’s comments are always on point.

baldilocks on August 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM

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