NRCC Conference Call: The House Oil Party
posted at 6:00 pm on August 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Rep. Tom Cole, chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee, held a blogger conference call to discuss the ongoing protest at the House over energy policy. He said that politics can sometimes emulate war, in that battles that no one anticipated can turn into major engagements. This protest is a good example. Cole called this a “major opening” on energy policy.
Cole thanked the bloggers for perpetuating the interest in this story. The national media has mostly been AWOL on this rebellion.
Republican leadership has decided to continue the protest for at least the next two weeks. Cole has personally experienced how this rebellion has resonated among Americans, and Democrats have begun to notice it. Will they come back early? Probably not, but Cole feels that they will have to deal realistic when they do return.
GOP members feel energized with this effort. They got a nice boost from Newt Gingrich’s visit, which gave the story an added boost.
Questions:
- Has anyone heard back from Senator McCain? — Not yet, but he’s been on the right side of this issue. They’re hoping he can fit it into his schedule.
- Can we harness this issue to get a couple of dollars from everyone on lists and petitions? — Great idea; he’ll work that out with the NRCC communications office.
- What are you doing about actually winning the vote, and stopping a continuing resolution that extends the ban on drilling? — Cole says that people have woken up outside of the energy states. Blue-collar families have been hit hard, and that makes Democratic electoral prospects cloudier. Cole says that the White House has to be willing to veto anything that passes with the CR on the drilling ban in order to “dramatize the issue”. Cole would like to get them to fold first, but the Republicans won’t let them off the hook.
- Cole says this controversy also does one more positive thing for the GOP: it reminds voters who’s in charge of the Do-Nothing 110th Congress.
- Will the momentum continue once Congress gets back in session? — Cole says he thinks that the GOP will win both politically and substantively. The momentum will build because everyone wants something done to expand drilling except Nancy Pelosi and the extremists.
- Cole also challenged Democrats who now say they support drilling to sign the discharge petition to get around Pelosi’s roadblock. They’re hoping that the recent slide in crude oil prices will take this off the table, but Cole thinks it has gone too far to disregard it in the future.
- “This thing may not have been elegantly planned, but that’s the beauty of it. … This is sort a work in progress.”
- Cole praised members facing tough re-election bids like Marilyn Musgrave and Jane Smith who left the campaign trail to come back to the Oil Party.
I had to drop off to take another call. The mood on the call seemed ebullient. Cole feels that the Republicans have a winning hand, which John Boehner says will allow Republicans to beat back a CR on the drilling ban. Let’s hope they’re right.
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the slide in oil means nothing. americians understand now what is at stake. thewy know that next summer if nothing is done $5.00/gal gas will be the new battle.
unseen on August 7, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Poor Republicans,
Energy is so last week, and nobody’s watching their little sleepover.
Talk about impotent…
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:11 PM
When Alphie says an issue is no big deal, that pretty much always means the libs are scared to death.
Buford Gooch on August 7, 2008 at 6:18 PM
So, are you for five dollar a gallon gasolene?
Johan Klaus on August 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM
By the way, alphie, you sound a lot like AlpahLiberal in comments on another blog. If you’re the same one, you are no smarter there.
Buford Gooch on August 7, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Which is why it currently makes the front page of Obama’s website, the Democrats website, is being talked about by both candidates, and makes just about every news cycle. Because the issue is so last week!
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:20 PM
If they try this, I will never sign another petition. I put down my information so they could tell I was a real voter, not to get put on a list so they could try to get money from me.
This shows the shallowness of the Political class.
Romeo13 on August 7, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Whenever you sign a political petition, assume your information will be used for fundraising/other support purposes.
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:23 PM
The silence of the MSM on what the Republicans are doing speaks volumes.
I can hardly wait to hear what their excuse will be. After all, isn’t their main reason for existance to “be a spotlight on government actions”?
Oh, I know, they’re faced with an energy crisis as well. Just can’t seem to get their asses in gear.
GarandFan on August 7, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Oh, and the issue is so last week and our efforts futile, that MoveOn.org planned a counter-protest and conceded that
“progressives” are losing on the issue.
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:24 PM
energy last week? The americian public understands that all it takes is one hurricane, one massive terrorsit act, or an escalation with Iran and it’s back to 147.00/bll
anyone that is in the market understands that oil is at a major resistence level at the moment. most feel it is done going down short term. If for some reason it breaks below 117 the next stop is 100/bll. However It should rally here and make a lower high short term. Think around $130-140 before retreating and retesting the $117 level. the problem with oil since it is a supply issue. Any increase in economic activity will result in an increase in prices at the pump. the only way gas continues to go down is bad news on the economy.
The dems lose either way. If gas goes down because we go into a recession it will be the dems that got us here. If oil goes up because the economy gets better, the eeconomy will hit the $4.00/gal wall again. thus until new prospect of new supplies come online or a new alternitive the economy is in limbo.
unseen on August 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM
With unemployment at record highs thanks to the neocons, Johan, I think Americans are more concerned about keeping their jobs right now.
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM
With unemployment at record highs
I guess Alphie really was born yesterday. Try looking up what the actual “record highs” were in unemployment. After that, check out the Carter era. Then come back here and explain how 5.7% amounts to “record highs”.
Ed Morrissey on August 7, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Poor Alphie, so masochistic.
Hunt035 on August 7, 2008 at 6:29 PM
With unemployment at record highs thanks to the neocons, Johan, I think Americans are more concerned about keeping their jobs right now.
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM
Are you better off then you were 2 years ago? The problems we are facing started about 2 years ago with the takeover of the Congress. One of the first things the dems did was put oil shale off limits. The price of oil reflected that.
unseen on August 7, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Uh, why? I’ve signed numerous petitions over the years, on many local issues, and have never had them contact me for money.
And if the stated intention of said information is to ensure that the signers are not bogus, and there is no disclaimer stating that this information will be shared? I did NOT sign a REPUBLICAN Petition… I signed one that had NOTHING about the Repbublican party on it…
Romeo13 on August 7, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Judging by the previous post, I thought it was truthiness day.
And McCain say Obama wants to lose the war, too.
Guess I was right.
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:33 PM
In which universe?
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM
I thought we were talking about how energy was so last week…………..?
Seven Percent Solution on August 7, 2008 at 6:35 PM
I should’ve been more specific. I’m talking about petitions on issues sent out by parties, committees, etc.. If you didn’t sign something sent out by the NRCC/It’s members, I doubt you’ll get anything from them about it.
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:39 PM
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:33 PM
a retreat underfire is considered losing in military circles. Only in mind adled dems would running away be considered a victory
unseen on August 7, 2008 at 6:40 PM
In honor of the previous post, we’re calculating the unemployment record based on the last 4 months of a two-term president, amer.
Unemployment was 3.9% when Bill Clinton left office.
Oh. and he paid down the debt on his watch, too.
Just sayin’
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Excellent.
Spirit of 1776 on August 7, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Which wouldn’t be an all-time high. And no one hid anything in the last post about what we were talking about: Obama received more money than McCain from the major companies the Dems demonize.
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Don’t mess with Alphie. He is a masochistic liberal who likes being abused – he’s the Alpha Victim, after all.
OmegaPaladin on August 7, 2008 at 6:45 PM
But, Amer,
The Bush tax cuts were supposed to help the economy sooooooo much.
The tax cuts are still in effect and…the economy is in the crapper and unemployment is skyrocketing.
What happened?
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Energy Independence: A Bi-Partisan Pander
Indeed, true independence will only be achieved when we can harness the voluminous quantities of hot air being generated by our political leaders. That, at least, appears to be an infinitely renewable resource.
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Unemployment was 3.9% when Bill Clinton left office.
Oh. and he paid down the debt on his watch, too.
Just sayin’
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:41 PM
highest unemployment rate during Clinton was 7.3. highest unemployment during Bush 6.3
Just sayin’
unseen on August 7, 2008 at 6:51 PM
“Compassionate conservatism”.
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 6:51 PM
The tax cuts are still in effect and…the economy is in the crapper and unemployment is skyrocketing.
What happened?
alphie on August 7, 2008 at 6:50 PM
The dems won Congress
unseen on August 7, 2008 at 6:52 PM
So I take it you’ve conceded the point on energy and all-time high unemployment, no?
The economy’s down as a result of bad mortgages. You’re assuming that the situation wouldn’t be worse without the tax cuts.
amerpundit on August 7, 2008 at 6:54 PM
5.7% is the record high for the last 4 years. Maybe Alphie was born four years ago.
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Of course, government regulation and interference has nothing to do with job loss. By the way, what is the rate of unemployment?
Johan Klaus on August 7, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Aug. 7 (Bloomberg) — The number of Americans filing first- time claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly rose last week to the highest level in six years, signaling the labor market continues to weaken.
Companies are reducing staff as demand slows and raw- material costs surge. Rising unemployment adds to concerns that consumer spending will falter in coming months after the effects of the government’s tax rebate checks wane.
“The labor market is slackening,” said Michael Gregory, a senior economist at BMO Capital Markets in Toronto. “The underlying trend for jobs has got recession written all over it.”
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 7:00 PM
How did Clinton pay down the debt? I thought that the congress controlled spending.
Johan Klaus on August 7, 2008 at 7:02 PM
High gasolene prices have nothing to do with spending either, does it?
Johan Klaus on August 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM
U.S. Consumer Credit Increases $14.3 Billion in June
By Shobhana Chandra
Aug. 7 (Bloomberg) — U.S. consumers borrowed more than twice as much as economists forecast in June as a decline in home equity forced Americans to fund purchases with credit cards and other loans.
Consumer credit rose by $14.3 billion, the most since November, to $2.59 trillion, the Federal Reserve said today in Washington. In May, credit rose by $8.1 billion, previously reported as an increase of $7.8 billion. The Fed’s report doesn’t cover borrowing secured by real estate.
Consumers are using credit cards and loans to cover expenses as falling home values cause banks to restrict access to home- equity lines. The Bush administration sent out tax rebate checks in the past three months to help support spending, which accounts for more than two-thirds of the economy.
”This is definitely showing some level of spending activity on the part of the consumer following the fiscal stimulus bounce,” said Maxwell Clarke, chief U.S. economist at IDEAGlobal Inc. in New York. ”The impact of the stimulus has put our problems off for tomorrow.”
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Let’s shop for today, tomorrow may never come
Let’s shop for today, tomorrow may never come
But you just can’t tell anymore
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 7:13 PM
We need a picture/video taken of them in the House in the dark with night vision cameras. The lights mess up the narrative.
nottakingsides on August 7, 2008 at 7:13 PM
If we DON’T drill and OPEC decides to do to us what they did in the 70’s what will be the impact now that we import 70% of our oil? Maybe that will wake the idiots.
DerKrieger on August 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Wake them? The idiots will have yet another orgasm, ever-hopeful that the full economic destruction of the USA will enable frauds like Obama to usher in their Socialist utopia.
In this glorious new realm everything will finally be “fair and equal”; the $300K/yr. industrial equipment salesman will stand in a bread line (for a handout) right next to a fellow komrade that used to work in a fast-food restaurant for $16K/yr.
Yesssir, everything will finally be made fair – that’s the reason Obama gave for wanting a near doubling the capital gains tax, even though history shows doing that reduces tax revenues to the federal coffer.
electric-rascal on August 7, 2008 at 7:48 PM
[Buford Gooch on August 7, 2008 at 6:18 PM]
LMAO.
Dusty on August 7, 2008 at 7:49 PM
The local radio station (carries Rush) is doing something called Hob Knobbing, all the Dems are saying the same thing. Drilling if there is a comprehensive plan. Until they get a larger majority. Last part was mine.
Cindy Munford on August 7, 2008 at 7:58 PM
He did? With what, his Chinese campaign contributions?
fossten on August 7, 2008 at 8:13 PM
IS anyone keeping a running list on the Representatives who are actually taking part in this?
I’d like to have such a list handy when it comes time to write some more checks for congressional campaigns, and I don’t have the time and energy to make the list myself.
LegendHasIt on August 7, 2008 at 8:25 PM
I thought that, according to the Democrats, energy is so ten years from now.
aero on August 7, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Here’s today’s list of participants in DC. Note, however, that participants are taking turns and rotating out. Some are in their districts spreading the word while others are in DC. My rep was there on day one and early this week but has apparently left now. He’s not on today’s list.
But you’re asking for a cumulative list, aren’t you? I don’t know if they’re keeping a running list or not. If they’re not, we should ask them to publish one.
aero on August 7, 2008 at 8:34 PM
And here I thought Congress set the budget… unless you’re saying that he personally paid it down.
dominigan on August 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM
McCain should go to DC to shine a little MSM light on our GOP house protest. Would this not force the MSM to report further on the continued effort by the GOP and the lack of it by the vacationing left? I know that they would try their darnedest to not report it, but having the Rep. nominee there surely would make it news worthy.
rslancer14 on August 7, 2008 at 10:29 PM
NEWS FLASH FOR ALPHI THE IGNORANT
news flash for alphi the ignorant
http://www.anwr.org/Video/View-our-ANWR-Flash-Movie.php
Jobs created by drilling in anwr
allrsn on August 7, 2008 at 10:42 PM
It should be newsworthy whether McCain goes or not. The media’s bias on this and the Edwards scandal is so blatant and unabashed it turns my stomach. I think it is worrisome that McCain has not shown up there. This is a big issue and he could score some points with his base. Of course, if you ask a cynical b**tard like me, I don’t think McCAin is going to show up there; he’s going to hang them out to dry. As I said when he made his initial lackluster statement on drilling, he’s making minimal effort on this issue that won’t cost him anything whichever way it goes. Given his asinine stance on ANWR, I don’t think he really gives a duck’s a** about drilling; that’s why he’s not going. Now please, I hope I’m wrong. Maybe for once he’ll surprise me by doing the right thing. I doubt it. I think he’s incapable of it, but maybe he will. Nevertheless, good on the GOP congress.
austinnelly on August 7, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Thanks Very much!
LegendHasIt on August 8, 2008 at 1:36 AM
Wow. Does alphie need a lesson in economics?
1) Price of gasoline and other energy resources go up
2) Cost of heating, cooling, delivering raw materials, supplies and equipment, making supplies and equipment, buying supplies and equipment goes up.
3) Dollar decreases, other companies go bankrupt or write down debt, companies owed money cannot collect monies due
4) Profit margin goes down
5) Cash flow decreases
6) Corporations look to decrease highest cost ledger items and that, in 80% or more of companies is…drum roll, please…labor costs.
Say hello to unemployment. Check the increasing unemployment rate for the last six months against the increasing cost of gasoline, energy etc. In other words, inflation is bad for the economy and bad for employment.
When did oil start it’s quadruple inflationary rise? 2006. The year the democrats won congress. When did job creation begin to slip? 2006, right after the Democrats won congress. Why? Because they immediately began to threaten not to renew Bush’s tax cuts and even threatened to increase taxes on businesses and individuals. The natural reaction of any company, seeing the probability of a Democrat president with a Democrat majority congress that will be able to raid these corporations and raise taxes, is to start writing down their bad debts and reduce the value of their receivables against future taxation. Cheaper in the long run against falling into a much higher tax bracket.
We’re talking about companies that might average 14 to 18% profit margins. Typically, that’s enough to pay off current debts, improve technology, expand a little, increase employee wages, buy more products, supplies, materials, etc that puts money into the economy. Now, raise that tax by 4% to 36% or higher and companies are making 10 to 14% profit margin. That is no longer a supportable cushion in many cases, especially if you imagine needing technology upgrades or experiencing an emergency. there will certainly be limited expansion which limits job creation and will very likely result in a second look at that largest bottom line eater: labor.
So, while you’re blaming Bush, alphie, keep cheer leading for more taxes and higher energy costs. At least, you won’t be forced to confront the reality of those policies. You can stick your fingers in your ears and chant “la-la-la” all the way to the bread line.
Kat_Mo on August 8, 2008 at 2:43 AM
alphie whines,
Since when is 5.7 a record high? This is only a tad above the average for the Clinton years. During Carter’s term it broke 12%. Back when Roosevelt was in office, he drove it up to 25%.
Wasn’t too long ago that economists were telling us that 6% was full employment and you couldn’t get unemployment levels below that.
MarkTheGreat on August 8, 2008 at 7:24 AM
The economies in the crapper alphie? Since when?
Clinton took the Bush recovery and killed it.
As to what has caused the economy to slow, perhaps you haven’t noticed, but Democratic policies have caused oil to spike from $30/barrel to over $100.
MarkTheGreat on August 8, 2008 at 7:27 AM
Don’t forget about the Democrat minimum wage increase either. Killing jobs all over America as we speak.
rockmom on August 8, 2008 at 7:50 AM
There have been almost a million jobs lost in the housing, mortgage, and financial services industries since the peak of the boom in 2006. (Of course, most of the construction jobs were held by illegals who have gone home.) Yet the overall economy has not collapsed. Only in the mind of an 18-year-old does 5.7% unemployment look like a disaster.
rockmom on August 8, 2008 at 7:53 AM
Please do not confuse Alphie with the facts…
brtex on August 8, 2008 at 11:05 AM
By the way, wasn’t the economy doing ok up until 2006? What happened then?
brtex on August 8, 2008 at 11:07 AM
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