Condi: America will be fine under President Obama
posted at 3:18 pm on August 7, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Indeed it will, unless you believe the power of The One is such that he can lay low even the mightiest of nations. Then again, “fine” is a subjective term. If, as Condi surely does, you think the west’s six-year tap dance over Iran’s nuclear program is a “fine” way of addressing the problem, replete as it is with ineffectual UN sanctions and time aplenty for Tehran to work out the kinks on mastering enrichment, then yeah — by that standard, President O will be just fine.
“I don’t need another job in government with anybody,” she said. “Look, I’m a Republican, all right? Sen. McCain is a fine patriot, and … he would be a great president. But there’s something to be said for fresh blood. And I know that there are a lot of very good people who could be his vice president.”
During the interview in a regal room at the State Department appointed with chandeliers, rich carpets and cases of porcelain, Rice was asked: “Would you feel safe with a President Obama?”
“Oh, the United States will be fine,” she responded. “I think that we are having an important debate about how we keep the country safe. I think we are having an important debate about our responsibilities, our obligations, our interests in the Middle East in the wake of the now increasing evidence of success in Iraq. Those are important judgments for the American people to make.”
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Way to go.
And, yes, both of President Bush’s picks for SOS have been poor ones. The fact that they are both black is mere coincidence.
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:08 PM
She’s in a bad position right now, with her job being what it is.
If she says “We’re completely screwed if Obama wins, and we might as well all start stuffing cash in our pillows and buying our hijabs now,” she’s going to have to face every foreign leader — who adore him — for the next three months with that hanging over her head. How would she get anything accomplished?
Which is not to say that she hasn’t broken my heart. Because she has. Just not with this, specifically.
Tanya on August 7, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I’m trying to step in the poo on this thread.
Is it cocktail hour yet?
wccawa on August 7, 2008 at 4:08 PM
AP pleeeeease post an update so that we don’t get any more idiotic, racist posts who can’t even read a couple of paragraphs to understand the context of what she said. NEW BLOOD IS NOT REFERRING TO OBAMA, QUICK DRAWS.
jimmy the notable on August 7, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Agreed. Thats a great example.
Zetterson on August 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Ummm…let’s see…
1) Invaded Iraq on advise of those tasked with defending America against all threats foreign and domestic…check…
2) Occupied Iraq for 6 years and have spent billions and billions and billions of tax payer dollars defending America against all threats foreign and domestic…check…
3) Kissed every dictator’s ass world-wide in the name of “statesmanship”…check
4) Brown nosed the first black POTUS nominee because…well…because…well…why the hell not…check
sabbott on August 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM
LOL
Condi thanks for the vote of confidence, but why take the risk and be just “fine” LOL
I want America to be Great like it always has been, why should we welcome an economic Depression with Obama taxes and Healthcare and a moral Depression with a defeat in Iraq and in the overall War on Terror?
Chakra Hammer on August 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM
She’s heading back to Stanford to teach after the term ends - this is any early effort toward gaining tenure.
Dead Hand Control on August 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM
This was fun, let’s do it again sometime soon ..
Later homeys.
redrock on August 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Maybe that’s the whole point of her answer. “Fine” isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Obama is not president yet, and freedom of speech is already attempted to be stifled :)
Nah, let her speak. I’ll never be able to prove this, but I have speculated that she and Mr. Powell will vote for Obama this time. He’s already hinted, and so has she, repeatedly. Part of me understands. If they wouldn’t, or wouldn’t say so, they could kiss their kin good-bye. It might also be a matter of pride, or whatever.
One thing’s for sure, you’d have to gore me first, before you’d have my dead hand pull the trigger for Nicolae Ceauşescu’s son, for example. No blood, of any kind, would ever change that.
Just get used to it (not you TRC, but all of us) and don’t condemn, nor condone.
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Thanks. I honestly don’t get the reaction here.
Maybe it’s just because people had such high hopes for her. I always thought it would be nice, a young, beautiful and intelligent woman, leading our party (and being a minority, she would have helped change the GOP image)… but that was just a fantasy that had nothing to do with her as a person.
I wonder if the Democrats will feel the same way about Obama as soon as they figure out who he really is.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM
If you mean saying so, perhaps.
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I understand your point, Esthier, but any complex system can come crashing down. That doesn’t say that the system wasn’t great or didn’t so what it was supposed to, or was not built correctly. It is more a testament to complexity.
I’m not saying that a BHO Presidency will spell the end of the US, but it is a distinct possiblity - as it is with a McCain Presidency if he gets his shamnesty plan through. The difference is that BHO has so many other ideas that could kill the US that the one must consider the possibility. Hell, if the SCOTUS comes out with many more idiotic decisions (like the Habeas or Eminent Domain ones) they could bring our country crashing down, too.
I do not think that it is advisable to look at the US as if nothing can irreparably damage us. In my mind, our Republic is under more threat today than at any time since the Civil War. At least that’s how I see it. Frankly, I’m not sure we’ll make it through a McCain Presidency.
progressoverpeace on August 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Not sure if that was snark or agreement…
But either way, I still think you are great. ;-)
I never liked Colin. Loved Condi until it appeared to me that she was just a little too soft on terrorist and terrorist supporting organizations when it came to their activities outside of U.S. territories. And once I noticed that, I started to notice a lot of other political/philosophical ’squishiness’ about her that she did not show as the NSA…. (Where, I do believe she did a superb job.)
LegendHasIt on August 7, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Then we’re doomed either way!
I guess my biggest disagreement with you is based on the fact that our system of government was specifically set up to prevent any one person from destroying us.
If it fails, then obviously the entire system was a failure.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Damn, I did NOT expect the 93% to include Condi.
I’m soooo glad race won’t play into this election./
.
Character? What was it ML King said? It must not apply when one is talking about the U.S. Presidency.
shooter on August 7, 2008 at 4:20 PM
RICE was fantastic before she went to STATE. Must be something in the water at STATE, huh??? Talk about STEPFORD, more like STATEFORD… Yeah that’s the ticket…
pueblo1032 on August 7, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Perhaps this quote might apply:
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
- Ronald Reagan
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I’m going to cry right now. I thought Dr. Rice knew better than to fall for a slickly scripted empty suit.
Sigh.
I remember Jimmy Carter. We didn’t do so well under his leadership. Obama is Jimmah lite.
Ellen on August 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Hmm. A lot better than an Obama presidency, would br my opinion.
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM
We will be fine.
However, it is the combination of Dem majority Congress PLUS a President Obama that is most worrisome.
Brat on August 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM
No, this is the smartest woman in the world.
backwoods conservative on August 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Did you watch the video? As JustTruth101 said: “She was saying she didn’t want to be VP, after serving in the gov’t that fresh blood is good meaning she would be happy to see someone other than her serving.”
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 4:26 PM
The best course of action would be to insert foot before the words come out.
meci on August 7, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Fortunately, even if Obama wins, he won’t be president for an entire generation. They’re only allowed eight years, remember?
Tanya on August 7, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Something to be said for her keeping her mouth shut to avoid further outbreaks of athlete’s mouth.
She seemed to have such promise before Foggy Bottom fogged her brain.
viking01 on August 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Well, I think that we’re probably doomed one way and walking a very fine line the other. I will be a very reluctant McCain voter.
Yes, that’s true. But often times we depend on one man to STOP others in the government from destroying us - veto power. With BHO in office, that stopgap would be gone. With a liberal House and Senate and liberals in control of the courts, there isn’t much left, really.
There is a good chance, however, that liberals owning all of the government would act as they did with Bill Clinton’s first 2 years - tear each other apart and get nothing done - but that’s the best that could be hoped for.
Again, the death of an entity (which all entities must succumb to, eventually) does not take away from what happened during the life of that entity. Just because the world’s greatest sprinter might stumble and destroy his ankle doesn’t mean that he wasn’t great. He made one bad misstep, and that’s all it takes.
Just because a system eventually fails does not mean that the system was a failure, only that it finally met its match in stupidity/poor judgment/…
progressoverpeace on August 7, 2008 at 4:34 PM
I do.
The reality is that a goodly portion of black Americans have never forgiven America for her long-term failure to live up to her ideals–in spite of of genuine change (sorry) on America’s part and a goodly portion of white and other Americans don’t understand why, merely find themselves to be unjust victims of that anger and become angry in their turn. And it is the Left-leaning (mis)educations that almost all Americans receive which stokes black anger and keeps the circle turning.
The Left’s version of education leaves its students ignorant of history and philosophy unless it’s the Left’s version of these. And the only history and philosophy that the Left teaches is of America as villain and minorities as victim.
I contend that most of these people–black and white–don’t even know about the history of real oppression in this country; nor do they know the particulars about how this same country turned itself around. All they know is how to be angry.
Too many of us have become tools of the Left, sadly, more black Americans than any others.
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:34 PM
I hear what you’re getting at. But I’m of the mind that if a statement is not entirely true then it is false. There are palpable remnants of truth in your statment. We all get what’s happening in this election. Lot’s of black people are going to vote for a black guy.
I just think that it’s the same thing that has happened in a majority of elections in our nation’s young history. Some voting bloc gets screwed…man bites dog…in the ass.
It’s hip to be all snarky and act like blacks invented this, but that’s a joke. The fact of the matter is that anything annoying is amplified in its annoyingness when done by black people. Black people vote as a bloc just like evangelicals, or feminists or Southern Baptists and the World comes to a halt.
Nobody seemed to care when blacks voted for white candidates — like in 99% of elections in our nation’s history.
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As far as chopping Sec. Rice off at the knees, well that’s what Republicans do nowadays…unless you’re a Rovian drone. That will earn you a pass.
The Race Card on August 7, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Excellent quote.
I agree, which is why I will probably end up voting for McCain, though I really don’t want to.
progressoverpeace on August 7, 2008 at 4:36 PM
It was a pat on the back for being an adult. :-)
You too!
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:36 PM
I would hope she’s referencing Gearge Carlin’s ‘The Planet will be fine’ routine (”The planet will be fine; we’re screwed, but the planet will be fine.”)
I doubt it, though; I used to be her advocate. No longer; the State Department has poisoned another one.
michaelo on August 7, 2008 at 4:37 PM
[Winebabe on August 7, 2008 at 4:06 PM]
Unless I read yor comment wrong, I think you’ve jumped to conclusions, Winebabe. Browse for ThackerAgency comment.
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[Cindy Munford on August 7, 2008 at 4:04 PM]
Cindy let your mind wander some more, like to the Vietnam war, or back to Nixon, or the Depression, or the Civil War, not to mention that we didn’t come close to ruination or destruction under Carter and we didn’t let him get a second chance to try.
Dusty on August 7, 2008 at 4:38 PM
I understand very well. I share some but maybe not all of your concerns.
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 4:39 PM
How will it be fine having a Socialist-Marxist in the White House and a Socialist-Marxist as Speaker of the House and a Socialist-Marxist as Senate Majority leader? Am I the only one that sees that socialism is taking this country over? I don’t want to live under Communism, really, I don’t…
adamsmith on August 7, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Well, no, that’s not exactly what I mean. Obviously anything can break, but if a system’s sole purpose is to do one thing that it can’t do, then I would call that a failure.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 4:42 PM
What if Obama picked her?
AprilOrit on August 7, 2008 at 4:42 PM
It’s the only way the liberals can exist as a majority party - it’s the Peter and Paul principle.
He wouldn’t. He knows that it w/b too much for America, on one ticket.
TRC, deep breath, my friend. High blood pressure and heart attacks are not a good thing.
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Um, how was Condi suppose to answer the question?
terryannonline on August 7, 2008 at 4:46 PM
C. Rice…One Classy Woman.
Wish there were many more like her.
bridgetown on August 7, 2008 at 4:47 PM
What history are you referring to?
As to the rest, that sounds about right. Though I would put some hefty blame on the Right for having not fought against the misinformation better. We’re supposedly the party of the rich and yet we can’t seem to afford better PR.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 4:47 PM
How so?? Are you meaning as in 2 black people or as in 2 incompetant morons?
AprilOrit on August 7, 2008 at 4:47 PM
AprilOrit on August 7, 2008 at 4:42 PM
She would turn him down.
Did you miss the part where she is a Republican?
etc?
So…wouldn’t matter if he picked her.
bridgetown on August 7, 2008 at 4:48 PM
This just shows how important race is to racists.
Her name is Condoleezza, what did we expect?
carbon_footprint on August 7, 2008 at 4:48 PM
She’s a republican, not a Maavveerrrriick. And she’s also not interested in another political job.
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Two blacks on the first black presidential ticket…and they are both not “incompetent morons”.
There’s much to be critical of, both, but this is not an item.
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Slavery and Jim Crow.
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:51 PM
You might want to read the actual link and this thread. And are you busting on her parents?
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:52 PM
What is being left out in your view regarding those two topics?
Spirit of 1776 on August 7, 2008 at 4:53 PM
ME? Nah. But thanks.
Is it really like that, overall? I know that in the ‘inner cities’ and the like, that is probably correct, but nearly all the ‘black’ folks that I ever knew in rural areas were pretty conservative. They may have voted Democrat, but their personal values were pretty much in line with yours and mine.
While far from an expert, I think that it is the negative pressure of big city life and the ‘educational’ system that makes so many people ‘tools of the left’, regardless of the amount of melanin of their skin.
Heck, around my neck of the woods, all of the real lefty tools are pretty pale.
LegendHasIt on August 7, 2008 at 4:54 PM
“As a Republican, I support Sen. McCain and think that he would make a better president…for reasons x, y, z”.
That’s what a conservative with convictions could say - alas, she’s not a liar, and she said exactly what she’ll do. She, of course, has a full right to do that.
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I’m going to have to disagree with you there.
Blacks are a unique voting block with something like 80 to 90% voting Democrat in every election (though this has nothing to do with the candidate’s skin color; Alan Keyes would easily lose out to Hillary).
I don’t know about feminists, though the term itself is decidedly liberal, making the statement a little like saying conservatives vote in block for Republicans.
And as far as Southern Baptists and Evangelicals are concerned, unless I’m mistaken (which is possible), the numbers are more like 60/40 or 70/30, a far cry from 90%.
When I read about voting blocks awhile ago, the second largest block were Jewish voters, but even they were less than 80%.
What happens in the black community is unique, even among voting blocks.
Now I will agree with you that it’s an odd thing for people to talk about here, considering Obama is a Democrat, someone who’d get the voting block regardless of his skin color.
It would actually be racist if Obama were a Republican.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Just to start with…basic philosophy–The Great Thinkers, Bible as philosophy, Constitutional education. A Judeo-Christian nation should know why it was founded as such.
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 4:56 PM
In fairness though, (not to contradict you) but it has been this WH’s policy not to comment on the candidates or the election. Sure occasionally, something gets through, but they have deliberately walked a path of non-involvement.
Spirit of 1776 on August 7, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Are elected officials (below the office of president while in office) allowed to comment on upcoming elections? Or, maybe was there a tradition where they would decline comment?
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Her inflection would tell a lot as to just how “fine” she meant by “fine”. Having the “Oh” at the front gives a pretty good indecation as to what her inflection was.
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Oh, I thought you were referring to something more obscure. I see what you mean.
I agree. Though I’m not sure what most public schools teach on the subject. I was in private school until junior high, and the concept of Puritans coming this country because of religious persecution in England was drilled into us.
Esthier on August 7, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Well said.
AZCoyote on August 7, 2008 at 5:02 PM
As wise_man pointed out, she could have declined comment, then. It’s hard to comment in this climate, with the approval ratings of the executive and the Congress in the toilet, and the parties at war with each other.
Frankly, I don’t care how she’ll vote, or how any bloc will vote. In a few years the only bloc which will matter is the Latino one, no mistake mathematically about that. This discussiont will be completely mute.
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 5:03 PM
TRC, how did you sneak that “t” in there? :)
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 5:04 PM
That was an extremely misleading headline, AP. When Condi was asked about an Obambi presidency, she said, “Oh, the United States will be fine.” I can see her waving her hand, and you
the meaning was, “We can survive that, too.”
Condi is a class act. I’ve argued elsewhere (futilely, to be sure) that John McCain ought to stop running from President Bush and embrace him. William McGurn in the WSJ made the same argument a couple of days ago:
“McCain’s Problem Isn’t Bush”
I would go further: McCain should offer Condi the Vice Presidency!
MrLynn on August 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Gee I think I do remember that the State Dept issued a directive to it’s very own employees about not participating in the Obamathon while he was on his European vacation. Now .. so many here seem to want to condemn Condi for not following her very own directive.
She did not endorse Obama, she didn’t endorse anyone. She very correctly responded to the questions. She even prefaced her comment with the fact that she is a Republican.
Texas Gal on August 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM
I perused but am at work and don’t have time to read the entire article.
Did I jump to conclusions? Yes.
Is her name retarded?
Yes.
carbon_footprint on August 7, 2008 at 5:08 PM
She wasn’t asked how she would vote, she was asked if America would be safe. No comment in that case is an indictment of Obama.
Spirit of 1776 on August 7, 2008 at 5:08 PM
That ‘know’ was supposed to be in italics, not a quote.
Wish we could edit our posts.
MrLynn on August 7, 2008 at 5:08 PM
She said McCain would make a “great president.” That sounds like an endorsement to me. I think it would have been extremely inappropriate of her to engage in fear-mongering and say that we would not be safe under President Obama. I think she answered the question well. I have no problems with it.
terryannonline on August 7, 2008 at 5:10 PM
terryann, whatever she says, or will do, regarding this election, is completely fine by me. In a few years this entire topic will be mute.
Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Oh, I doubt that.
Without hearing an audio, with “Oh” in there seems more like, “Oh, the United States will be fine[, don't be silly.].”
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM
1) Hope.
2) Worry.
3) Deep concern.
4) Anger.
5) Sad resignation.
6) Oh, what the hell do I care!
MB4 on August 7, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Your anger, that Condi doesn’t agree with you 100% and expresses herself differently than you, is showing.
Dusty on August 7, 2008 at 5:31 PM
McCain: “would be a great president”
Obama, unmentioned by name or by what kind of president he’d be, but “The U.S. will be fine.”
not exactly a ringing endorsement of Obama. we survived eight years of Clinton, the trailer park Caligula; we can survive an Obama presidency. Assuming he stinks as bad as Clinton did his first two years, we’ll get back the GOP majorities to check his inexperienced behind.
sulla on August 7, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Why do you think both have been poor choices?
Dusty on August 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I think Sec. Rice is incredibly smart and able but I think when she went to State she found that there were few friends there. Look how many things have been “leaked” to the New York Times from that hell hole. Can you imagine working in a place where the vast majority of people do not want you or the President’s policies to succeed? All you have to do is look at the dust up over the removal of the U.S. Attorneys by the Justice Dept. to know that liberals control the vast number of paid positions in D.C. and they don’t want to give up even one of them.
Cindy Munford on August 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Just for grins…there’s an acronym used in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings to keep newbies from saying “I’m fine” all the time.
F - F’d up
I - Insecure
N - Neurotic
E - Emotional
I doubt Condi is AA, but she may have heard the lingo from someone she works with. I’m just sayin’.
marybel on August 7, 2008 at 5:39 PM
It just goes to show how playing the diplomat dance means to say anything.
onlineanalyst on August 7, 2008 at 5:45 PM
AllahP, the headline teaser on the main page is dishonest, with “something to be said for fresh blood” under “America will be fine under Obama”. Condi’s “fresh blood” comment was regarding McCain staff, not an Obama presidency. Or did you do that just to get more clicks for that story … are you that smart … hmmmm …
Paul-Cincy on August 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM
[Cindy Munford on August 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM]
True. I’d also note that SoS’s are not rogue actors who after being nominated and confirmed, get to do whatever they want on policy.
Much of the problems associated with Powell’s poor performance are as much a result of being required to advance and administer policy based on poor inputs from other departments, some of those being due to incompetence, some due to inadequate intelligence and other parts just due to choices on direction and approach that were found to not work.
I won’t apply view so much to Condi. She has had a different set of conditions, but I do think that, under the circumstances, she is handling it fairly well, considering it is more a long term approach that should never have been expected to bear fruit during Bush’s term.
Dusty on August 7, 2008 at 5:51 PM
That’s not what she said…you took her way out of context.
SaintOlaf on August 7, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Thumbs up.
Okay you got me there, but the name does have a meaning. :-)
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Condi needs to be replaced by Paris Hilton, ASAP.
We need a Secretary of State who can lampoon our enemies, and is HOT!
Right_of_Attila on August 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Wrong Condi. On this issue, you never got your head out of that dark area!
byteshredder on August 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM
What was Powell’s excuse for the idiotic advice he gave during the first gulf war? After that debacle, I didn’t want to see him as the local dog-catcher. Powell acted at State as he had for all the time before (that I had seen). There was nothing surprising about his tenure.
If a SecState really didn’t like what s/he was “forced” to do, they could just resign. If Bush had told me to push that silly Road-Kill Map, which was beyond a joke, I would have resigned, immediately.
SecStates might not make policy but they certainly agree with it enough to stay and implement it. I don’t buy this idea that people are changed by State.
progressoverpeace on August 7, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Perfectly understandable.
Isn’t much of a surprise when you watch the video that you see so many people jumped to conclusions. Paul-Cincy (5:46 PM) Accurately summed up why.
wise_man on August 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Does anyone here actually read the articles?
New blood referred to the VP pick for McCain.
She made a point of telling the guy she was a Republican, which means she is voting Republican. But, if Obama gets elected the Republic will survive.
I am not a huge Condi fan - but lets criticize her for her soft stance on Terrorist and wierd stance on Israel. Not for something she didn’t actually say.
If Obama gets elected are you all gonna go out and shoot yourselves…or, do you too believe the Republic will survive?
MYounger on August 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM
The more I think about the “fresh blood” part of her statement the more nauseating it becomes.
Is the standard for the Presidency whether a candidate is “fresh blood” or is that standard whether or not the candidate is qualified by experience and temperment to be President???
Utterly meaningless and straight-up moronic statement, especially for a supposed Republican. And tell my why John McCain isnt fresh Presidential blood? Oh yeah. Old White Dude who isnt popular in the Bush White House. Got it.
I had such high hopes for Ms. Rice once. Now I think she’s more or less a clownish figure with little to show for her time as SOS.
And note the racial code word “blood.” j/k…or not. :-)
Mike D. on August 7, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Condi is paving her yellow brick road back to Berkeley. No surprise, actually. She said something along this strain early on in the primaries, so she’s repeating herself. Just another reason to thank God that Condi isn’t likely to be involved in McCain’s presidency. She’ll go make love, not war, in the Bay.
maverick muse on August 7, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Condi got her talking points and delivered them, now she doesn’t have to comment again? Okay Condi I get it you don’t care who the next President is your leaving with the last one.
Check!
Dr Evil on August 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Well, so much for my admiration of Condi!!! Here I thought she was intelligent and analytical. I was wrong.
jeanie on August 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM
[progressoverpeace on August 7, 2008 at 6:07 PM]
Could you be specific on the idiotic advice during the Gulf War?
As for the “Road-Kill” map, you’re entitled couch to your opinion and your sentiments however your want, but it doesn’t necessarily make it true. Could you explain why you characterize it as a joke?
Dusty on August 7, 2008 at 6:23 PM
One mediocrity approves of another.
Whoopie.
profitsbeard on August 7, 2008 at 6:28 PM
I’m not angry at Condi. I have always thought her name to be retarded.
Nice lady, retarded name.
Not angry.
carbon_footprint on August 7, 2008 at 6:31 PM
I hear too many horror stories from the State Department to find anything they say credible.
I will say, it seems the setting is fit who the person who heads the department that really runs our foreign policy…
VolMagic on August 7, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Answered by MYounger ahead of that post:
This misinterpretation we can lay at the feet of AllahPundit. He should apologize.
MrLynn on August 7, 2008 at 6:32 PM
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carbon_footprint on August 7, 2008 at 6:33 PM
To leave the job undone. The minute Saddam Hussein intentionally dumped 40,000,000 barrels of oil into the gulf and lighted just about every oil well in Kuwait on fire it was clear that he could not be left in control of that strategic part of the world. From my memory, Powell was one of the only people on Earth who thought leaving Saddam in Iraq was a good thing. We see what it ended up costing.
Besides the fact that 3 of the 4 quartet partners have been actively working for the destruction of Israel for decades and had no business being given any entree to enmesh themselves further into Israel’s sovereign affairs …
Because, among many other problems with the actual details, it was another attempt to sign a contract with a group that had never honored any contract they had ever signed. The Road-Kill Map was then violated by the Pals in the first day of its appearance and just about every single day after. It was not taken seriously by anyone, but kept showing up as if it was a real document - even after Israel expressed a list of 14 objections to it that were brushed aside while the pals used copies of it as toilet paper. It made the US look like a total joke, which is bad for everyone.
Is there anything about the Road-Kill Map that you think was good and has been honored by the Pals? I can’t think of a single thing. For most people, such a set of circumstances would lead them to shelve the proposal and work on something more realistic.
progressoverpeace on August 7, 2008 at 6:37 PM
If anyone is the Peter Principle candidate it’s Colin Powell. Plus I contend that he has Scott McClellan disease–and I don’t mean flop-sweat.
As for Dr. Rice, she doesn’t seem to to have the tough temperament for SOS. She’s more of a wonk–she herself will admit it.
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 6:40 PM
What is this, the idiot thread? If your reading comprehension skills are such that you could interpret Rice’s remarks as a kind of crypto-endorsement of Obama, perhaps this isn’t the website for you.
I blame the public schools.
Infidoll on August 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM
:-)
baldilocks on August 7, 2008 at 6:46 PM
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