Mike Gravel on Al-Arian prosecutor: “Find out where his kids go to school”
posted at 9:20 pm on August 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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First the Levant post, then the Cohen post, now this: “Tolerance,” in all its many flavors. In fairness to Gravel, he didn’t mean to suggest to the crowd that they should go and kill the prosecutor’s children. What he meant, clearly, is that they should … empower lawmakers or something. I’m not sure what that means, but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. All he likely meant was that he wants people to make up signs and posters, congregate outside the kids’ school, and peaceably hound them at every available opportunity. Besides, he’s always had a grandfatherly vibe; it’s just that he’s more the sort of grandpa who sits in a van with binoculars watching for an eight-year-old to emerge for recess so that he can go scream in his face about what a bad man daddy is. Let’s just consider ourselves lucky that he’s a progressive so we know his heart’s in the right place. If he wasn’t, I dare say this would have been covered on more than just Fox News.
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And who doesn’t have a grandfather like that?
amerpundit on August 6, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Gravel needs to be prosecuted. Now.
john1schn on August 6, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Just when I think I couldn’t hate democrats any more than I already do…
Rational Thought on August 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM
The liberal way; get surrogates to do your dirty work for you and you come out squeaky clean.
DAT60A3 on August 6, 2008 at 9:32 PM
For what? I found his little tirade to be disgusting but he didn’t actually encourage anything except picketing. I’m not a lawyer so I don’t really know but I think you’ve got to actually contribute to some illegal activity to even be charged. Maybe some of the lawyers or police who post here could throw some light on this. Did he do anything illegal? As far as I could tell all he did was call for more of what the left does on a routine basis.
Oldnuke on August 6, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Endangerment?
WisCon on August 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Mr Gravel needs to have someone shove a .40 in his mouth to get his attention. Then they should tell him “You now have a vested interest in the safety of those people, because if ANYTHING untoward happens to them, guess what?”
Shit like this and the people who do it ‘from the high moral ground’ need to know that there are consequences for their actions….and they won’t take place in a nice warm and fuzzy courtroom.
GarandFan on August 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM
What he said isn’t illegal. The Supreme Court distinguishes between “true threats,” where there’s a prospect of imminent action, and political hyperbole. Besides, he didn’t call for any crimes to be committed. It’s creepy as hell but not prosecutable.
Allahpundit on August 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM
He’s just a typical Democrat. what can you say?
TheSitRep on August 6, 2008 at 9:38 PM
He isn’t the funny kind of crazy anymore.
EJDolbow on August 6, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I wonder what would happen if a Republican Pol told an audience to find out where Obama’s kids lived.
TheSitRep on August 6, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Incitement, stalking, harassment. As Kafka taught us, innocence is impossible.
john1schn on August 6, 2008 at 9:40 PM
What a non-factor he is.
Seriously.
MadisonConservative on August 6, 2008 at 9:42 PM
“It’s creepy as hell but not prosecutable.”
Yeah, until some wingnut decides to DO SOMETHING.
Gravel’s arguement (if you want to call it that) is with Gordon Kromberg, not his wife, not his kids, not his relatives.
Gravel just wants someone else to do his dirty work.
GarandFan on August 6, 2008 at 9:42 PM
“Find out where his kids go to school”
Mike Gravel doesn’t want these people to find out where the kids go to school just because he wants them to talk bad about daddy. Anybody who thinks that’s all he’s telling them to do is delusional.
john1schn on August 6, 2008 at 9:43 PM
This has to violate some law somehow.
JonRoss on August 6, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Why is he a Al-Arian supporter? What the hell is wrong with this guy?
darwin on August 6, 2008 at 9:47 PM
By stalking and intimidating their kids and making them fear for their children’s safety? Wow, just wow.
This is a Representative Republic, Mr. Gravel. We elect people to make decisions on our behalf. Are you advocating mob-rule?
Bonusheadus Majorus.
Claypigeon on August 6, 2008 at 9:47 PM
What is it about Democrats born in Massachusetts?
coldwarrior on August 6, 2008 at 9:48 PM
What a freaking idiot.
Terrye on August 6, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Gravel should be prosecuted.
radjah shelduck on August 6, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Reminds me of the Union organizer that hands out axe handles at a strike scene but never actually takes part.
john1schn on August 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Well, it’s not quite up there with the New York Times naming the person who interrogated the terrorists friends at gitmo, which added nothing to their story, against the CIA’s wishes.
and it’s not quite the same as that one democrat who said that he was glad that Al Qaeda knows what Cheney’s aid looks like, because they watch C-Span.
And countless other similar acts that democrats commit against our own citizens to the aid or comfort of our enemies, foreign or domestic.
Yeah, that one of the reasons that I also hate certain democrats. Despise them, actually.
wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Toward the end I could see start of rabid lip foam building.
sMack on August 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I’m sure the cool-as-crap kids at Reason Magazine will be all over this. Sit back and relax, AP.
It's Vintage, Duh on August 6, 2008 at 10:03 PM
No way would I defend Gravel on this but I just saw him on O’Reilly’s show and he seemed to be impaired, as in mentally disabled. It was sad to watch and made me wonder if his family should step in and try to prevent him from speaking publicly anymore.
This guy needs medical help more than prosecution I think.
Gilda on August 6, 2008 at 10:04 PM
See this: The Risk That Comes With Slaying Dragons
mram on August 6, 2008 at 10:04 PM
The line between the people who physically plant the bombs and their liberal mouthpieces and cheerleaders gets thinner all the time.
logis on August 6, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Sounds like an intervention is needed. Someone call Nurse Ratchett.
john1schn on August 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Whether is manifests itself in mild and amusing side effects, or the truly deranged and unhinged is all a matter of different levels of nature and nurture. Social genetics from the family, and the community. Maybe there is strength in numbers, and some act out more boldly because of that, or from youth and stupidity, such as indoctrination. Or in this case, advancing age and a lifelong IV drip of the poison that is liberalism collects in every cell and deposits a sedimentary layer of crust so thick that this comment from him sounds perfectly rational.
wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Obamanator’s (Campaign people, like the ones that removed the Muslim women with head scarfs from the photo shoot, and the ones that ask for “more white people”, you know people that Obama can throw under the bus)
Obamatics, Explaining Barack Obama’s Politics watch it funny..
Chakra Hammer on August 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I saw this yesterday on Brit Hume. He crossed the line when he encouraged his audience to find out where the kids go to school.
He should be brought up on charges for that, but he won’t.
He’s a scumbag. Democrats have no shame. And I’m painting with a broad brush when I make this statement. Any registered Democrat that accepts, through silence, this unacceptable behaviour, share the scumbag label.
SoldiersMom on August 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Sooooooooo,he’s not calling for a hit!
canopfor on August 6, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Maybe he’s got what Kennedy and Novak has.
wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 10:11 PM
This is a dangerously stupid and irresponsible man. He should be locked up.
Jaibones on August 6, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Hmm.
Oh, I’m sure he mean this is a totally innocent manner, and not at all as it sounded like, exactly. Just like in this instance,
I’m sure he meant for his rabid followers to hand the gun store owner some tobacco “snuff” and ask him to come “out” to accept their gift.
Again, what is it with deranged, unhinged, tolerant democrats who want to see their enemies physically harmed (by their supporters or to assist others who would harm them if only they knew where their target lives so they can commit violence against them) because they disagree with them politically.
wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 10:17 PM
i dont think he was advocating violence but pushing for protesting and such, i.e., intimidation tactics, against a prosecutor is just flat out wrong! to try and pressure someone not to prosecute a crime goes against all American values.
chasdal on August 6, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Obamatics…
Chakra Hammer on Aug 6,2008 at 10:10PM.
Chakra Hammer:Couldn’t help myself with your title!
How about Ebonics,Obamaonics,or sumpin
like dat! haha:)
canopfor on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I saw that segment too, and for someone who is mentally impaired he sure did a fine job of buttering up O’Reilly and his great big ego. Under his avuncular demeanor, this guy is as ruthless as it gets.
Look at how detailed his plea to stalk the prosecutor was, down to the typical Marxist trick of suggestint that they accuse him of being a racist.
Don’t be fooled.
Meanwhile, just imagine if Gravel had made it to the White House, and had the FBI working for him to enforce his personal enemies list.
Buy Danish on August 6, 2008 at 10:20 PM
[suggesting]
Buy Danish on August 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Could be? I have no clue of course but I couldn’t help thinking “Alzheimer’s” while he was prattling on. He seemed to be unable to completely grasp the thread of the narrative, if you know what I mean.
Though there are plenty of Democrats who aren’t potentially ill who could be denouncing his statements, if they sufficiently disagreed. I haven’t run across any of that yet and don’t really expect to.
Gilda on August 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Can you imagine the shock and outrage if a Republican had encouraged the supporters of an abortion clinic bomber (or abortion doctor killer) to harrass the children of a prosecutor or a judge?
Infidoll on August 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Hmmmm. I wonder if there’s an obstruction of justice angle that could be pursued?
He was very slyly prattling on, flattering O’Reilly, trying to get him off guard.
Buy Danish on August 6, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Did you see Mike Gravel on the O’Reilly show tonight? Boy, is this guy an arrogant, abrasive jerk? Aside from that, I think he is a pretty good egg. The reason he appeared on the show is due to his current support of former University of South Florida Professor and associate of some pretty questionable Middle East charities, Sami Al-Arian, who sits in prison because he won’t testify before a federal grand jury on all those “charities” that we are afraid might be sending “charitable contributions” to terrorists. Now, Mike Gravel, former Alaska senator and former Democratic Party candidate for president is Al-Arian’s new-found best friend. Why not? They are both abrasive and arrogant.
On the O’Reilly show, Gravel showed his “human side” by calling O’Reilly a liar twice. He pimped his new book. He did everything he could to convince me that he would be a perfect running mate for Barack Obama-especially now that Obama’s designated guy for Muslim outreach has stepped down because it has been revealed that he was associated with some other Muslim guy tied to… well, you get the point.
But here is what really sets former Democratic Party presidential candidate Mike Gravel apart. During the O’Reilly show, Bill put up the following quote from Gravel in connection to the Al-Arian case:
“Find out where he (the Al-Arian case prosecutor) lives…Find out where his kids go to school…They can’t take the heat. Deliver it to them.”
Boy, am I glad Gravel didn’t win the Democratic Primary. Can you imagine President Gravel knowing where you live and where your kids go to school?
Rather than deny or apologize for the remarks, Gravel launched into an attack on the prosecutor and the case against Al-Arian, interspersed with insults directed at O’Reilly. As I sat there listening to this bozo, I kept asking myself how the Democrats could let this guy stand on a stage with all the other candidates in televised debates.
Then I remembered Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Question answered.
gary fouse
fousesquawk
gary fouse on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM
It would be front page news on the New York Times for weeks, daily news specials from Olbermann and all of the other MSNBC programs, National Public Radio would spend half their broadcasting budget on the coverage hosted by Daniel Schorr and Dan Rather would come out of retirement to host a dozen full hour specials with his special investigative correspondent, Bill Moyers.
… or maybe nothing at all. Yeah. Probably nothing at all.
wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 10:30 PM
And this is from a Leftist, such as Alphie, who professes:
Response to Afghanistan looking pretty good, says … Harry Reid?
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on August 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Stupidity isnt a crime its just a left leaning political party in the US
William Amos on August 6, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Yeah, you may be right. I may be being too charitable and too reluctant to accept that level of idiocy from a public figure. It’s hard to believe that sort of behavior is coming from a fully rational person.
Gilda on August 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Imagine how this would dominate the news if it was a Republican calling for a Democrat (& his kids) to be harassed.
jgapinoy on August 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM
thats not my video, i just found it on youtube, search for “Nobama” without quotes, lots of video out there.. that person seems to think that Obama is a terrorist as seen in some of his other videos(something that i dont agree with, but the video that i posted was funny and pretty much accurate, also the one where Obama lashes out at the person that asks tough quesions he just did that today to the guy that asked him tough questions Obama called the journalist a McCain surrogate )
Chakra Hammer on August 6, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Remember this is the guy who thought this was a good ad for the democrat nomination.
dawgyear on August 6, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Omamafy
-Verb
The practice of answering any hard hitting political question, with a smear upon the person who posed said question.
Chakra Hammer on August 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Obamafy
-Verb
The practice of answering any hard hitting political question, with a smear upon the person who posed said question.
Chakra Hammer on August 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Dude………………. Money post all the way.
Mr. Gravel, you have been introduced to……… the Mob.
Now……………….. how do you feel?
Seven Percent Solution on August 6, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Here’s the thing,maybe its just me,there’s a
Presidential election on the go,and you would
think that each party would like things to run
pretty smoothly,like tickity boo!
But oh no,not the Liberal Democrat Party,between
Gravol calling for something bad to happen to the
prosecutor,and Pelosi shutting down democracy on
the floor in the drilling vote,
I say hell,giv’em all the rope they need to hang
their own party! haha.
canopfor on August 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Who voted for this guy? Seriously, anyone who supported him needs to take a long hard look at themselves.
I would hope it is senility that made him talk like that. How horrifying if he is sane and has that sick a mindset.
katieanne on August 6, 2008 at 10:50 PM
criminal
Kaptain Amerika on August 6, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Funny how Mike Gravel has so much trust in the masses, when they so obviously have no trust in him.
Failed presidential bid? Thy name is Gravel!
emailnuevo on August 6, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Again proving that progressives are reflexively supportive of anything aggressively anti-Western, and like the jihadists they support will use every freedom they are afforded by Western culture to do it.
spmat on August 6, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Mike Gravel, a real polished guy. /Sarcasm
byteshredder on August 6, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Is anyone shocked in any way that Gravel is obviously off the deep end?
I thought this had already established that fact.
SouthernDem on August 7, 2008 at 12:33 AM
What an a$$clown…
eanax on August 7, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Gravel is simply following the new SOP of the radical left, and it has nothing to do with democracy or civility. Whether it’s intimidating a federal prosecutor by targeting his children, or firebombing the home of a research scientist in Santa Cruz, these radicals embrace violence, even violence against children, as a means to an end. It will only get worse.
sgt_rich on August 7, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Mr. Cromberg, I recommend the versatile Glock 30. It is easy to carry concealed, more accurate than many target pistols, and holds 11 rounds of the authoritative .45 auto in a small, easy-to-shoot package. It’s the ideal weapon to defend your home or your family against those that would do you harm.
sgt_rich on August 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Typical scum bag leftist. Find out where his kids go to school and picket him everywhere he goes and call him a racist or anything you want?? Is that his idea of democracy? Gravel is a total idiot. I wish someone would do that to him and play the tape of his own words everywhere he goes, see how he likes it.
Dollayo on August 7, 2008 at 1:28 AM
This isn’t the Mike Gravel I thought I knew.
myamphibian on August 7, 2008 at 6:24 AM
Dotage creep?
Zorro on August 7, 2008 at 6:48 AM
My brother-in-law was a police officer for many years. He always had some scumbag tell him he was going to get his family.
Bill would ask, “Do you know what my wife and kids look like, where we live, where my kids go to school?” Etc.
Scumbag, “No.”
Bill, “That’s too bad, ’cause if I see you near them at the mall, near my house, near my kids’ schools, I’m going to assume you are there to hurt them, and I’m going to blow your @$$ away.”
Mr. Prosectutor, carry heat–if Mr. Gravel-for-brains shows up anywhere near your family … .
davidk on August 7, 2008 at 7:13 AM
Anybody feel like finding out where Gravel’s kids live? That hammer slices both ways.
Farmer_Joe on August 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM
This is a Democrat. This is the kind of people they are.
Never forget what absolutely, putrid scum Democrat politicians are.
You don’t get to be a politician in the Democrat Party unless you are a complete POS. They weed out the decent people early.
Never, ever, ever, even consider casting a vote for a member of the Democrat Party. We might be able to destroy this blight on humanity in our time.
NoDonkey on August 7, 2008 at 8:26 AM
Hey Gravel you graceless degenerate – how’s Elizabeth Ray doing? (You have to be a certain age to understand that).
Hilts on August 7, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Relax…he’s just calling for a hit..it’s not like he said he’s going to go there and murder them himself.
SaintOlaf on August 7, 2008 at 9:20 AM
If a far left lunatic ever like Gavel ever got the fight he’s been spoiling for, he’d get hit so hard he’d starve to death rolling.
NoDonkey on August 7, 2008 at 9:25 AM
This is exactly the Mike Gravel I thought I knew.
Oh, come on, Allah! Are you not going to tell us what the Fever Swamp Rats are saying about this?
Jaibones on August 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM
I saw the interview too and I agree with your assessment, the man has fallen off his rocker for sure.
Not only that but in my opinion he’s a fraud and this whole ‘outrage’ over this prosecutor having ‘rail-roaded’ the “victim” (a terrorist supporter/fundraiser) is a farce and has more to do with selling his new book! I support this statement by the fact this foaming at the mouth fruitloop immediately started the interview with O’Reilly by pushing his book, even offering O’ an autographed copy, which O’ declined! What a sad joke this man is, so transparent in his faux rage!
This miserable waste of human flesh is willing to create controversy where none exists and in doing so is hampering our ability to cut off funding to terrorists that will use the money to kill us, worse yet he does so all in the name of making a few bucks off his crappy book! If his actions aren’t despicable and justification for him being thrown in prison for aiding and supporting our enemies I don’t know what is!
Liberty or Death on August 7, 2008 at 11:48 AM
dat60A3 @ 9:32 PM 6/8: I agree with you on this about SURROGATES… Kind of reminds you of another great PROGRESSIVE who likes to use SURROGATES, OSAMA BIN LADEN. This group always likes others to do the HEAVY lifting “FOR THE CAUSE”.
pueblo1032 on August 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM
“He also has been charged with contempt for refusing to testify before a grand jury, and that is what Gravel was objecting to.”
So Gravel thinks that the prosecutor is “a racist” and “an injustice” for doing his job to prosecue a real contempt charge? I wonder what Gravel’s stance was on KKKarl Rove and his “contempt” charge.
brainy435 on August 7, 2008 at 2:03 PM
It is a crime to “incite” another to the commission of a criminal act.
So the questions would be: (1) whether that jackass Gravel said constituted incitement, and (2) whether in fact it caused others to commit a criminal act.
seanrobins on August 7, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Yeeeesh!!!!
Lib-Speak!
seanrobins on August 7, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Why do we need to debate legal or illegal? He’s talking about kids for crying out loud. When it comes to politicians morality and ethics are not synonymous with legality. But regardless of any of that, going after children for any reason is just plain wrong.
Reminds me of the mother who pretended to be a teenage boy on MySpace in order to humiliate a teenage girl she thought was saying mean things about her own daughter. That young girl committed suicide and federal prosecutors went to great lengths to find this mother guilty of something, anything. Why? Because we protect the defenseless and innocent and what’s wrong is wrong. It’s just that simple.
Sultry Beauty on August 7, 2008 at 4:38 PM
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