Afghanistan looking pretty good, says … Harry Reid?

posted at 10:03 pm on August 6, 2008 by Allahpundit

Just two months ago he declared that Iraq was still locked in an “intractable civil war.” Today he’s sanguine about a war which, by most accounts (Michael Yon’s especially), is going badly. Say this for bizarro world — its rules, at least, seem to be consistent.

“We’ve been so focused on Iraq, and we all know Afghanistan has not received the attention and resources it needs,” Reid told reporters. “We are where we are, but not where we should be. After 9/11, we spent a little time here and left. It would have been better if we’d spent more resources here. We didn’t, and that can’t be undone. But we are in a better position now… I feel we’re in pretty good shape.”

Reid said U.S. commanders in Afghanistan are avoiding mistakes made in Iraq, such as paying more attention to diplomacy and infrastructure needs.

“We’ve frankly learned a lot from Iraq,” Reid said. “We’re not attempting to win this war with sheer military power.”

To appreciate how amazing it is to hear him say that, consider that the same point was most recently made by none other than Hitchens, the liberal hawk of hawks, in the course of an article attacking the conventional Democratic wisdom that Iraq and Afghanistan are in all respects a zero-sum game. Quote: “Many of the most successful drives against the Taliban have been conducted by American forces redeployed from Iraq, in particular from Anbar province. But these military victories are the result of counterinsurgent tactics and strategies that were learned in Iraq and that have been applied triumphantly in Afghanistan.” Emphasis his. If you take this logic seriously, Reid’s implying that victory in Iraq is begetting a victory in Afghanistan — to which he’d doubtless reply that we could have learned these lessons in due course in Afghanistan and won the war there anyway if we’d never gone to Iraq. Exit question: What strange twist of fate has brought Dingy Harry to the brink of applauding Bush’s management of a war? No doubt he has his eye on next year, but which way is he going to spin the progress he claims to be seeing? By citing it as evidence that we’re winning and should therefore support President Obama’s call for more troops? Or by citing it as evidence that the country’s in good enough shape that we don’t really need any more troops, as candidate Obama is hinting now about Iraq? Remember, a majority of Democrats have soured on Afghanistan. Any excuse to abandon ship will suffice, I’m sure.

Update: A reality check from Roggio on how “pretty good” things are looking these days.


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Hey Harry, No One Cares What You Think!

kahall on August 6, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Does anyone know where his kids go to school ?

JonRoss on August 6, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Enjoy your vacation Harry, maybe work on some more real estate deals.

GarandFan on August 6, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Some military contractor must have finally met his demand for grease.

You know, for his filthy palm.

TheSitRep on August 6, 2008 at 10:09 PM

just stay away, you are worthless. I guess he could This War Is lost again.

jdsmith0021 on August 6, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Wasn’t there a time when leading Congressional Democrats earned and commanded some respect?

Dennis_Second_Thots on August 6, 2008 at 10:11 PM

oops I meant he could say “This war is lost again.

jdsmith0021 on August 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM

He’s scared.

TheBigOldDog on August 6, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Whoever thought it would take $4/gal to wake up a Nation? As painful as it is, it may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. The event that shocked people into paying attention and waking up to reality.

TheBigOldDog on August 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Maybe it is about time they retired him to Yucca Mountain? I understand that is where the most toxic substances in America are going to be stored. Then, again, perhaps Reid won’t qualify. He has no substance at all.

coldwarrior on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Must really suck to be Harry Reid. First Iraq, and now Afghanistan.

wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Wow,

Such bitter, hate-filled little bumpkins.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

DIRTY HARRY REID…SUCH A PATHETIC WORM!

byteshredder on August 6, 2008 at 10:20 PM

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Are you talking about the people here?

You know, some people get a little ticked off when a guy openly attempts to surrender on the senate floor.

jimmy the notable on August 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM

“We’ve frankly learned a lot from Iraq,” Reid said. “We’re not attempting to win this war with sheer military power.”

And what, pray tell, was the surge but sheer military power?

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on August 6, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Current leadership of the democrat party must be insane.

rockhauler on August 6, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Maybe it is about time they retired him to Yucca Mountain? I understand that is where the most toxic substances in America are going to be stored. Then, again, perhaps Reid won’t qualify. He has no substance at all.

coldwarrior on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

LOL! Excellent post!

backwoods conservative on August 6, 2008 at 10:25 PM

“You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.”

Are you talking about the people here?
jimmy the notable on August 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Hard to tell. (5:39 PM)

wise_man on August 6, 2008 at 10:26 PM

The American economy wouldn’t be in the crapper if we’d gotten out od Iraq years ago, jimmy.

Don’t know if we’ll pull out of this one.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Whiney little kiss ass.
Where is my bat.

ambuldog on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM

“We’ve been so focused on Iraq, and we all know Afghanistan has not received the attention and resources it needs,” Reid told reporters…….”

What? What an A”"-Clown?

Change your Depends and retire in disgrace………..

………. you live in the “New Media” idiot, we never forget.

Seven Percent Solution on August 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Harry Reid is 3 years younger than John McCain, seven…

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Don’t know if we’ll pull out of this one.

[alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM]

Good to see you’re still batting 1000 on not knowing things, alphie.

Dusty on August 6, 2008 at 10:45 PM

The American economy wouldn’t be in the crapper if we’d gotten out od Iraq years ago, jimmy.

Don’t know if we’ll pull out of this one.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM

yes, because a descent into civil war and decreased stability in the region would be sooo great for the economy.

jimmy the notable on August 6, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Such bitter, hate-filled little bumpkins.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Once again alphie adds nothing to the discussion, attempts to add nothing to the discussion, doesn’t have the IQ to be a part of the discussion. Pure 100% dingbat troll.

Now, back to Dingy Reid… Harry’s attempt to say something of substance today was simply pure jealousy. San Fransicko Nancy is getting all of the headlines (as bad as they are) and the Harry man is tired of taking second fiddle. What a pair to draw to.

Keemo on August 6, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Harry Reid is 3 years younger than John McCain, seven…

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Right. But that stroke aged his brain at least 10 more….

john1schn on August 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM

coldwarrior on August 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Ouch; much truth to those words…

:)

Keemo on August 6, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Something tells me Reid is still clueless about the wars.

F15Mech on August 6, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Who were the Republican’s Congressional leaders?

Haster and Feltch?

It’s easy to jump over the bar when it’s buried underground.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 11:09 PM

The number of Taliban-related incidents per day has jumped by almost 50 percent, according to data compiled by Vigilant Strategic Services Afghanistan.

.

But we are in a better position now… I feel we’re in pretty good shape.

.
Just who is this ‘we’ Harry refers to? The taliban?

News2Use on August 6, 2008 at 11:11 PM

I understand why Nancy has that stupid expression on her face. Botox will do that. But Reid, man the guy always looks constipated. What’s with that?

GarandFan on August 6, 2008 at 11:14 PM

“But Reid, man the guy always looks constipated.”

GarandFan on August 6, 2008 at 11:14 PM –

Too much time hanging around the Nevada Test Site. Suffers from atomic piles.

coldwarrior on August 6, 2008 at 11:17 PM

After 9/11, we spent a little time here (A-stan) and left. It would have been better if we’d spent more resources here (A-stan).

Huh? Our troops LEFT Afghanistan?! This guy is even more clueless than Obamabi. Hey, dumbazz, we went to Iraq to draw jihadis in from all over the M.E. and guess what, it worked! We won. Our guys killed thousands of jihadis who were trained for attacks in the West. Bin Laden himself said Iraq was the central battlefield in the war against the infidels. They LOST. Now they’re scurrying back to Afghanistan to try again there. The first time around, they got their azzes kicked and ran across the borde into Pakistan, so don’t sit there and say we didn’t do enough to fight ‘em there, THEY left, idiot, let me repeat that THEY left, not us.

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I don’t think you grasp the war these guys are fighting, tony.

They’re not afraid to die…and territory means nothing to them.

And they’ve lasted twice as long as the Confederacy did against the U.S. military.

Scary dudes.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 11:23 PM

The American economy wouldn’t be in the crapper if we’d gotten out odout of? Iraq years ago, jimmy.
Don’t know if we’ll pull out of this one.
alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM

‘In the crapper??’ ‘We’ll pull out of this one’?? We’ll pull out!?!?

Where did you get the idea that you are part of the ‘We’?? Toilet bugs like you are the Code Pink pukes, the MoveOn.org zipperheads…yer not part of any solution…YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!

BigWyo on August 6, 2008 at 11:32 PM

I don’t think you grasp the war these guys are fighting, tony.

They’re not afraid to die…and territory means nothing to them.

I know exactly who these guys are and what they’re fighting for, I’ve been following this war since 1979 when I was 10 years old, starting with the Iranian hostage Crisis. They’re still fighting the same war Muhammed started 1,400 years ago. You’re wrong, territory is very important to them, and to say otherwise is to flaunt your ignorance. Just ask a Palistinian about territory. The muj are still pissed about losing Spain. Once a piece of land is islamic, they consider it a sin for it to revert back to whatever it was. You need to do some research before you challenge me, Alfy.

Scary Dudes? Yes, all the more reason to for real men to fight and KILL them than for the puzzies on the Left to negotiate with them. Afraid to die? Some are, some are not. Some blow themselves up, some surrender like little b!tches.

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:35 PM

All Muslims are the same, Tony?

*sigh*

Wonder why you neocons got handed your asses in 2006…reread your racist little post and understand.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 11:39 PM

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 11:23 PM

They’re human being fighting a war for power in the name of something bogus, just like every war ever fought. They can be defeated, its just a question of does the West even want to defeat them. They’re not some sort of step above normal human existence because they happen to be zealots.

jimmy the notable on August 6, 2008 at 11:40 PM

All Muslims are the same, Tony? – Alf

Where did I say that, Alf? I didn’t, nor do I believe it, if I did, I would NOT support the liberation of over 50 million muslims. But nice attempt to chenage the subject you obviously know nothing about. Oh, and BTW, islam is a religion, not a race. As I said, do some research. I’ve been doing it for almost 20 years and it’s reason I joined the Service.

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Oooops! Change. Hopne and chenage! haha

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:45 PM

… reread your racist little post and understand.

Um, yeah, still don’t see it. Care to copy and paste my so-called racism?

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:48 PM

These wars would have been over a long time ago if they would turn the military loose to do their job.

Johan Klaus on August 6, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Afraid to die? Some are, some are not. Some blow themselves up, some surrender like little b!tches.

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:35 PM

And unlike congress, they are definitely afraid of pork.

Johan Klaus on August 7, 2008 at 12:00 AM

All Muslims are the same, Tony? – Alf

Where did I say that, Alf? I didn’t, nor do I believe it, if I did, I would NOT support the liberation of over 50 million muslims. But nice attempt to chenage the subject you obviously know nothing about. Oh, and BTW, islam is a religion, not a race. As I said, do some research. I’ve been doing it for almost 20 years and it’s reason I joined the Service.

Tony737 on August 6, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Tony,

I doubt you will hear any answer from alphie.

The concept of saving 50 million Muslims will be foreign to him.

F15Mech on August 7, 2008 at 12:02 AM

Such bitter, hate-filled little bumpkins.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Save your foolery and cliches’ for the DailyKos.

Claypigeon on August 7, 2008 at 12:02 AM

… they are definitely afraid of pork. – Johan

haha But not as afraid as they are of your son and grandson! How goes the recovery?

Tony737 on August 7, 2008 at 12:03 AM

I doubt you will hear any answer from alphie. – Eagle Fixer

You’re right Bro, this guy is a hit n’ run puzzy. I usually just ignore him and his kind, but he wants to fish for responses, I’ll play is little game. It’s fun destroying libs and their pathetic arguements, but I wish there was one here that could present a challenge.

Tony737 on August 7, 2008 at 12:07 AM

… they are definitely afraid of pork. – Johan

haha But not as afraid as they are of your son and grandson! How goes the recovery?

Tony737 on August 7, 2008 at 12:03 AM

Thanks for the concern. I talked to the grandson Sunday and he is back to work. He said that he can play the guitar again. I ask him if he had learned to play over the hill and very far away.

Johan Klaus on August 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM

… he is back to work.

Hey man, I’m glad to hear that :-) This is good news for the Air Force!

But, here’s bad news for the Marine Corps: Brian Stann lost his WEC light-heavy weight belt to Steve Cantwell! NNNOOOOOOoooooo!!!

Tony737 on August 7, 2008 at 12:19 AM

Harry Reid is 3 years younger than John McCain, seven…

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Is that all you got? ………………….. pathetic.

Seven Percent Solution on August 7, 2008 at 12:34 AM

Is that all you got? – 7

Yup, that’s all he’s got, and yes he is pathetic. Sometimes I think he’s a plant, a Con pretending to be a stupid Lib, trying to make stupid libs look even more “stupider”.

Tony737 on August 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Because of Obama, right?

WisCon on August 7, 2008 at 12:54 AM

For somebody who thinks that the United States should automatically lose any war in which we participate Reid may quite logically see Afghanistan as a “good thing.”

{^_^}

herself on August 7, 2008 at 1:26 AM

The American economy wouldn’t be in the crapper if we’d gotten out od Iraq years ago, jimmy.

Don’t know if we’ll pull out of this one.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Your premise is completely flawed. alphie, you’re so nice to play with.

Entelechy on August 7, 2008 at 1:29 AM

And, somewhere deep in the mountains of Pakistan, in a little mud hut, Obama Osama bin Laden takes a sip of camel’s milk, and gives a satisfied chuckle.

franksalterego on August 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM

Slightly OT but maybe connected, the MSM have started counting military deaths in Afghanistan like they did in Iraq. They reported 500 as of today. Ghoulish pukes.

maxine on August 7, 2008 at 2:07 AM

Dingy Harry had to speak up sooner or later. He was losing too much ground to Pelosi and Schumer for the Biggest Waste of Space Award.

viking01 on August 7, 2008 at 2:28 AM

Is that all you got? ………………….. pathetic.

Seven Percent Solution on August 7, 2008 at 12:34 AM

You’re not exactly firing depleted uranium rounds tonight, either, seven.

Is the Republican sleepover still going on, btw?

This is the only place reporting on it.

alphie on August 7, 2008 at 2:29 AM

I think it’s safe to say that the Democrats are going to flip-flop en masse when Obama’s president, and suddenly Iraq will be won and the sky will open up and…

Seixon on August 7, 2008 at 3:39 AM

Reid said U.S. commanders in Afghanistan are avoiding mistakes made in Iraq, such as paying more attention to diplomacy and infrastructure needs

.

So since when did this pompous dried out old blowhard windbag become an authority on how military officers should be conducting operations? I think the closest this clown has ever come to the military is watching his DVD copy of “Platoon”.

pilamaye on August 7, 2008 at 6:05 AM

Let’s not alphie hijack another thread. When he gets off his meds, {which is often} he has this compulsion to act out. And so he comes here in the hopes of engaging people in useless and stupid banter. He wants attention. Maybe him Mum didn’t love him or maybe he is stuck in a crappy job and feels the need to take his frustrations out on others.

But he is a pest. Ignore him and maybe he will go find some other place to haunt.

Terrye on August 7, 2008 at 7:03 AM

As for Harry Reid, he is thinking the Demcorats will win Novemeber and he wants to be ready to declare victory, the sooner the better. So they can vamoose.

Terrye on August 7, 2008 at 7:04 AM

What?

We haven’t “lost” this war too?

drjohn on August 7, 2008 at 8:11 AM

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Muslim is not a race, dipstick.

drjohn on August 7, 2008 at 8:13 AM

Call it a preview of what is to come. Harry can’t and won’t call Afghanistan a failure because it is ‘their’ war.

Of course they will blame any thing wrong in Afghanistan on Iraq (Bush).

Nevertheless, they will continue to paint a rosy picture of Afghanistan so the B.O. will not take any heat for it in ’09.

cntrlfrk on August 7, 2008 at 8:38 AM

Wonder why you neocons got handed your asses in 2006.

alphie on August 6, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Because the dems promised to lower gas prices, reach across the aisle to solve all our problems,
and run the most ehtical congress evah!

Which I guess, now that I think of it, has all come to fruition.

Oh yeah, raise the minimum wage which has done more harm than good.

elifino on August 7, 2008 at 8:49 AM

Harry Reid is a : 1) liar 2) thief 3) incompetent fool 4) talking cadaver 5) Peloser lap dog 6) All of the above

volsense on August 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM

After 9/11, we spent a little time here and left.

Harry Reid 08/06/08

Maybe Harry should resign.

Buy Danish on August 7, 2008 at 9:19 AM

Ah….Harry…….A song from Old Blue Eyes, The Chairman himself, seems appropriate here.

Call me irresponsible – call me unreliable, throw in undependable too
Do my foolish alibis bore you, well I’m not too clever – I just adore you
Call me unpredictable – tell me I’m impractical, rainbows I’m inclined to pursue
Call me irresponsible – yes I’m unreliable,
But it’s undeniably true – I’m “irresponsibly mad” for you

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 7, 2008 at 9:30 AM

TheBigOldDog on August 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM

True, but I worry that the American public with their notoriously short memories may lose focus since the price of oil and gas is falling right now.

TooTall on August 7, 2008 at 9:50 AM

Military genius!!

Steve McCullough on August 7, 2008 at 10:27 AM