The belated yet obligatory “Tyson Foods replaces Labor Day holiday with Eid” post
posted at 7:51 pm on August 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Workers at a Tyson Foods poultry processing plant in Tennessee have opted to trade a paid Labor Day holiday for the Muslim celebration of Eid al-Fitr.
A 5-year contract approved by members of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union at the Shelbyville, Tenn., plant last November includes the change to accommodate Muslim workers.
“The negotiating committee made the holiday a top priority in contract talks,” the union’s Alabama and Mid-South Council Representative Randy Hadley said in a statement issued in June. “And we were able to get management to commit to it.”…
“Given the nature of our work, many, many, many times we have to work holidays anyway, and Labor Day is usually one of those holidays that our workers have to work,” [Tyson spokesman Libby] Lawson said. “And, of course, they are paid holiday pay when they have to work any holiday that is recognized at our facility.”
Tyson officials said that approximately 250 of the plant’s 1,200 employees are Somalis who entered the United States as political refugees. Most, if not all, are believed to be Muslim — among them, Abdillahi Jama.
700 employees are Muslim. According to Tyson, fully 80 percent of the union’s 1,000 members agreed to the new holiday arrangement. If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares? And why are there rumblings about boycotting Tyson when it’s the union that’s driving this? Per the Fox News story, the policy isn’t company-wide; it applies to just that one plant to accommodate the laborers who bargained for it. Exit question: What am I missing? Is there an anti-Eid exception to freedom of contract?
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Infidels Christians and Jews we defeat
You are weak but we are strong.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
You said it way better than I could have.
4shoes on August 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
PEOPLE WHO TYPE IN NOTHING BUT CAPS ARE ANNOYING!!!!
DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
sure…go and mock us…
innocuous is the word of the day.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 9:09 PM
I’m starting to think that Andy in Agoura Hills and Debbie Schlussel are the same person.
I don’t know why people are so pissed about this but Michelle had to close comments at her site for a while on this topic. Pick your battles, people.
SnarkVader on August 5, 2008 at 9:10 PM
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG HERE. Geeze, get annoyed by “headline only” commenters.
It is the private sector, a company and its employees chose to switch the days. Big deal. If there is anything to whine about it is that 20% of the UNION members have been forced to accept it.
But that is just what you get being in a union, deal with it.
I will say it again: there is nothing wrong here. If the work force was 90% Wicca and they wanted to swap Christmas for some pegan holy day have at it - PRIVATE SECTOR.
This would only be an issue if it was the Federal Government forcing the muslim holiday on the nation. We are not a muslim nation, never have been never will be. You want to live somewhere where they do celebrate those holidays, move out.
Voidseeker on August 5, 2008 at 9:10 PM
My point was, if you are going to swap out a holiday, why not swap it for something with no meaning to you? Labor Day is for ALL Americans, Christmas holds no meaning for Muslims. So, keep Labor Day, let the Christians have Christmas off, and offer the Muslims this day. Which they cannot even agree which day it falls on, as I understand it. SOooooooooo, Christians have Christmas off, Muslims work Christmas Day, and Christians work this day, while Muslims are off.
That would work for me. Am I wrong?
CrimsonFisted on August 5, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I am urging all Infidel forces who are working against the Islamic Holy Forces at Tyson Foods to stop their resistence immediately.
Otherwise, we will hold them responsible for their actions. Any attempt to fight the Islamic Holy Forces of Tyson Foods is pointless. We are committed to putting all of America under our jurisdiction.
You cannot say bad things against the Islamic Holy Forces of Tyson Foods. Any group that tries to resists the Islamic Holy Forces of Tyson Foods will be destroyed. The Islamic Holy Forces of Tyson Foods will overcome the Hotair infidel stooges.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:14 PM
You could think that be you’d be wrong. As usual. However, since I only posted about AP’s stupid comment about Jews, are you suggesting that YOU also have a problem with Jews?
Andy in Agoura Hills on August 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Looks pretty on paper but I’m not sure how well assembly line type production works with 80% of the work force missing.
This is the solution that the private company and the employees of said company came to together. I am in no possition to second guess them.
12thman on August 5, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Your argument has a flaw or two…
This approach was instituted by the brotherhood back in the early 90’s.
Google muslim brotherhood….become enlightened…
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 9:18 PM
I get the feeling that some Americans think America is immune to Islam.
BL@KBIRD on August 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM
William, I think you miss one more important point, that most all 20,000 Goodwill workers will be inspired to vote for Obama.
Entelechy on August 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
scarey stuff…
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Providing the Zionist nonbelievers with support against Muslims, whether they are Hezbollah who fight for the sake of Allah or ordinary workers at Tyson Foods, is forbidden by the Koran. It is a major act of disbelief and he who commits this is considered a dissident of Islam, because it falls within the framework of supporting disbelievers over Muslims.
The great dream of Islam will come true. Muslims dream to see flags that read: “There is no god but Allah” fluttering in the wind on the Temple Mount and over Tyson Foods then Washington D.C., Allah willing.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
scary
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
by the way, all caps guy, I grew up in Cherry Hill New Jersey. For the record, I am not Jewish (otherwise I would be sorta like Sammy Davis Jr.) but we _always_ had off on Yom Kippur.
Here’s an article about what happened when some people tried to snatch those holidays away from principles.
12thman on August 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Hey, Aleph, quit that nonsense. They ran out of virgins, a long time ago. It’s questionable that they even had any.
Entelechy on August 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM
If you have Gold then Tuco’s Guns will take care of Aleph.
Tuco on August 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Yeah- it’s in the Koran:
“And the Prophet (pbuh) spoke: It is the duty of all believers to dominate the chicken wing, and forever plant the black flag of Islam over all places where sacred drumsticks are packaged.”
Tyson is just trying to keep their employees happy- I’ve little doubt that if their workforce was 80% Jewish, they’d make the the same concession for Yom Kippur. If 80% were athiests, to celebrate Christopher Hitchen’s birthday.
I’m no fan of Islam either, but what were they going to do? Tell the vast majority that they can’t have a holiday because their religion sucks? Somehow I don’t see that going over very well with the union.
Hollowpoint on August 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Last I heard, Eid just means “festival”, “holiday”, or some such. The al (of) Fitr identifies the actual day. (As usual, if you know better than I do, please correct me here.)
As to chopping off heads: I expect that chicken heads are severed; that’s fine with me. That’s what Tyson does.
As to the holiday: they bargained for it and there’s no evidence they are planning on using it to store gunpowder beneath Parliament. So what’s the problem?
njcommuter on August 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
An accommodation between employer and employee(s) will bring about the destruction of western civilization ?
If we are that weak, we deserve to go…
elgeneralisimo on August 5, 2008 at 9:39 PM
So here we have conservatives getting upset about the sacrosanct Labor Day? ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME? This holiday was originated by the Central Labor Union of New York as a street parade to exhibit to the public “the strength and esprit de corps of the trade and labor organizations”, followed by a festival for the workers and their families.
Sounds kind of communist to me….. Maybe next we’ll be fighting for the sanctity of May Day?
As for MB4 and his nonsense, I mean really. Please, Tyson Foods is not the GOVERNMENT. I’m reasonably certain I don’t pay taxes to Tyson Goods nor do they hold a monopoly of force.
flashoverride on August 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM
You have no clout
You better not try
You better watch out, I’m telling you why.
Twelfth Imam is coming to all of USA
Chickens first then A-Bomb is on list
I’ll use more than twice
Good Muslims who die
Will go to paradise
Twelfth Imam is coming to all of USA
He knows if you’re a Christian
He knows if you’re a Jew
He knows if you’re an in-fi-del
He’s told me what to do
So….You have no clout
You better not try, I’m telling you why.
Twelfth Imam is coming to all USA
Twelfth Imam is coming to all USA
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Yes, the PRINCIPALS were contesting the issue.
Cherry Hill NJ, has a pretty high concentration of Jews. Sooo, the BOE, has the choice of closing the school or not. They choose to close the school since most of the school would be absent anyway. The same is true for schools with high Muslim concentrations. But, in general, it is not an official school holiday across the nation. Cherry Hill is the exception.
Andy in Agoura Hills on August 5, 2008 at 9:46 PM
How does a company end up with so many muslims? Or so many of ANY single group? Is the town that Tyson is in similarly proportioned? If so, why? If not, why hire so many Somalis? Are the working conditions really so gross that ordinary Americans won’t work there? If so, do I really want to eat food from Tyson?
I really don’t have that big a beef about a majority of employees seeking their holiday. I have a beef about so many of one ethnicity/religion being concentrated like this. Is it gov’t policy to cloister refugees? Or is it muslims uniting to carve out their own little microcaliphate?
So many questions. None of the answers I can think of are encouraging.
innominatus on August 5, 2008 at 9:48 PM
The best thing you can do to ensure the success of Islam, is to strap on a bomb vest and blow yourself up. Preferably far away from any infidels.
Andy in Agoura Hills on August 5, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Why didn’t they just say they could swap “The Team Member’s Birthday” for Eid? That way, everyone still gets Labor Day off to celebrate with their families, considering it is an American Federal holiday. And then they would also have the entire plant shut down for Eid as well, instead of only possibly having 500 of 1200 employees show up on Eid. Instead, they take away Labor Day (a guaranteed 3-day weekend celebrated across the nation) and add a Holiday that changes each year, which only Tyson food employees will be celebrating.
Michael in MI on August 5, 2008 at 9:49 PM
MB4 and his nonsense, waah!.
You sound whiny and more than a little prissy.
MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 9:50 PM
You are that weak. The Koran tells me so.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:55 PM
It may be sooner than you think…
this is just one of many places you can go…
I for one …will not submit..
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM
“My point was, if you are going to swap out a holiday, why not swap it for something with no meaning to you? Labor Day is for ALL Americans, Christmas holds no meaning for Muslims.”
They probably wanted to take a day that was fairly close on the calender. Ramadan ends in October. Taking Christmas away from the Christians would be unfair, taking Thanksgiving away would also be unfair because it is generally a time of family gatherings, often spanning thousands of miles of travel.
Labor day is just a day off, it generally has no major family or religious tradition associations. I suspect that if they had gotten a Columbus Day holiday, they would have chosen that one but people rarely get that holiday off anymore unless you work for the government.
crosspatch on August 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM
First I’ve heard of it.
I think this provides a good example of how in the private sector the overwhelming majority can vote and be taken care of.
In the public sector the “underwhelming” minority wins.
Perdue has way better chicken, anyway.
reaganaut on August 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Most of your fellows have already submitted. You will eventually too, Allah willing.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Are they here legally? Ironic that a UNION would allow a holiday celebrating UNIONS to go down in flames.
SouthernGent on August 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
crosspatch on August 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM
There was no reason to take any day away. As I said, they could have simply took away “Employees Birthday” and added Eid and everything would have been fine. Instead, they take away Labor Day? Doesn’t make much sense.
Michael in MI on August 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
The event here is small. It does not need to be overturned or outlawed.
It is just an indication of the future.
The left embraced the idea of Islam as under dog and scourge of the Imperialists.
The right now seems inclined to accommodate and befriend it and inject all powerful democracy into it like poison to a Borg Queen.
She’s immune.
BL@KBIRD on August 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
We have seen this trick already. Is it the only one you know?
One-trick ponies are boring.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
There is good reason to question Islam. Look at the rest of the world and how they are going under Allah quicksand. Islam is a mad cult, and the members are very savvy at turning the advantage of democracy against their foe in order to eventually overtake democracy.
My question would be, why did this company and money hungry union allow so many Muslims to work at this one location? Nobody thought this might lead to trouble? If these are all Somalians, the companies management is nuts. Is this another example of jobs that Americans won’t do, or another example of the feds thinking it’s a great idea to get these Somalian, Muslim people jobs, like they did at freakin’ LL Bean?
Hening on August 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
One step at a time, Infidel.
The Koran protects us from your democracy, Infidel.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
It is my understanding that it is faith-based charities that are involved in relocating a lot of these refugees.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Depends. Islam is different from most other faiths in that Muslims are only peaceful and “moderate” insofar as they do not adhere to scholarly interpretations of their own doctrine. When Muslims are not willing to swear off violent Jihad, they should be treated differently - specifically they should not be allowed in the country.
I really don’t care what Tyson does. That’s the minor issue. The major issue is, what should be done about the doctrinal necessity for Muslims to wage violent Jihad? Should Muslims in the US be required to swear off Jihad? What, exactly, should happen?
But in the interim, let’s not pretend that it’s just another faith and that its adherents will always seamlessly integrate itself into our culture.
I don’t have the answers. But I do know the questions are worth pondering. I also object to any equivocation, express or implied, between Islam and other faiths. They don’t work the same way.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I get uneasy with creeping Islam too, but there are bigger issues here. Read the article that MM linked to. Apparently the reporter is more concerned that these Somalis are possibly indentured servants:
IrishEi on August 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
“There was no reason to take any day away. As I said, they could have simply took away “Employees Birthday” and added Eid and everything would have been fine. Instead, they take away Labor Day? Doesn’t make much sense.”
Who gets “Employees Birthday” off? I certainly never have anywhere I have ever worked. And I certainly doubt that a bunch of minimum wage chicken pluckers in Arkansas are going to get their bday off with pay. That sounds like something a company with more money than brains does.
crosspatch on August 5, 2008 at 10:07 PM
“As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%”
aengus on August 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
The Koran furnishes many things to trick you Infidels. More than enough. Some work on country bumpkins. Some work on city slickers.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Here’s the problem with it: it’s Un-American. While I have no doubt that most conservatives would disagree with the notion that labor unions are needed, they only think that way because most conservatives can’t separate the idea of labor unions from communism, socialism, and organized crime.
Labor unions are needed as a counter measure to basic human nature. That the powerful will always try to conquer and beat down the powerless. That’s got nothing to do with communism or capitalism. It’s human nature. Like the neighborhood bully who picks out the weakest kid to torment, the powerful will almost always try to prey on the weak. That’s why workers need to band together, as one voice, because together their one voice gives them a stature that the bully can’t ignore.
While a labor union has the right to negotiate with management, and management has the right to agree with whatever the union wants, this incident is alarming in the respect that Muslims did not demand something for all. They demanded something just for them. The fact that management gave it to them does not change the fact that they asked for it.
That’s not what a union if for. A union is a collective voice for all members. Past, present, and future.
You don’t sell out your retirees to gain a raise for yourself. You don’t agree to keep your pension while new members loose theirs.
That’s what is alarming about this. Labor Day is about as American a holiday as you can get. It’s right up there with Presidents Day, Veterans Day. And yes, even Memorial Day. Labor Day is our Memorial Day. I know conservatives won’t understand that, and many will be offended by it, but it’s true.
The fact that these unions members don’t understand that is alarming.
And yes, I work for Verizon for anyone who has been following the news. I’m management now. But my heart will always be with the union.
Jaynie59 on August 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Interesting thought experiment, huh? What if this were the headline? Would everyone be promoting “voting in a democracy” then?
Let’s just see if this sets precedence for any other demands from Islamic majorites in other companies or other neighborhoods/cities.
By itself, this doesn’t seem like a big deal. Added to the Flying Imams, the Minnesota Cabbies, the McDonald’s women, the prayer rooms and footbaths being put in companies and universities across the nation, the Mohammad Cartoons, the woman wanting her hijab on her I.D. … little by little… more and more …
Michael in MI on August 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I had, at one time, the hope that we could find some within islam that would reform it…
not gonna happen…
The followers are hardcore…enablers…or consenters. period.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Don’t believe him. He is an alarmist. Go back to sleep. All is well. We are the Religion of Peace. All have equal rights under Islam. Trust me.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Tyson’s policies aren’t the issue. They merely raise a larger issue.
The minute we equivocate the concessions made to Islam to those made to other faiths we introduce problems. Although if some would like to begin tossing out the “Islamaphobe” label, now would be the time.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM
In which case you must not feel very entertained by Muslims who have been one-trick ponies for 1,350 years.
aengus on August 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Islam is an anti-Constitutional subversive movement to establish a global theocratic tyranny.
What could go wrong honoring that?
profitsbeard on August 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
This explains a lot. I should have guessed with it being Tyson Foods. I guess one of the shows by the feds must have scared off their Mexican serfs. Now they have got replacements.
MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Well that’s certainly beyond F’d up.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
I would wecome it…
A phobia is an unnatural fear of …whatever…
I don’t fear these people…I do respect them for their guile …
I certainly don’t trust them… and will fight them wherever I can.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Wow…that’s some seriously flawed logic you’ve got going on there, Deb. I mean, Andy.
And hey! Look what I found! Schools with Jewish Holidays off!
http://www.peabody.k12.ma.us/Calendar/2008-2009.htm
SnarkVader on August 5, 2008 at 10:34 PM
A phobia is an irrational fear.
Given all the terrorism, atrocities and murders that Muslims have committed in the name of Islam, with the “moderate” Muslims standing by, and with all indications being that they will continue doing such and that they would like to do even more, far more, any fear of Islam is clearly not irrational.
It therefor follows, and clearly so, that the term Islamophobia is essentially a self contained non sequitur.
The real “phobia” with regard to Islam is the fear of Muslims that the truth will be told about Islam, the Koran and Islam’s founder, their “Perfect man”, AKA the murdering, thieving, torturing pedophile.
MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
You are correct, sir. I see nothing entertaining about Islam at all.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM
“The seven additional paid holidays are the employee’s birthday, New Year’s Day, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas, Mickelson said.”
Just curious, but if they really wanted a day off, why not just axe the birthday day off?
BallisticBob on August 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Exactly.
Jaynie59 on August 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Damn…I’m being corrected on definition by mb4…
Oh the horror of it all…hehehe just joking…
And the rest of what you said …no argument here.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Andy, without establishing any opinion on this (I’m reactionary), the answer to your question is: I believe all four schools in my district still take off Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.
And we’re in south suburban Chicago. I guarantee that in Allah’s New York neighborhoods, there are lots and lots of schools that honor those holidays.
They take off Christmas, of course, and place a week of vacation around Easter. Also, our high school choir performs a concert at Christmas - they call it the “holiday concert” now - and it is full of traditional sacred Christian music, and Jewish music, and more recently some African-derived spirituals.
Every concert for decades has ended with the reverent singing of The Blessing of Aaron, which doubles down on the religious themes.
We should be careful in our declarations, Andy, to be certain that we get it right. That’s the only fair way to do it.
Jaibones on August 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Nah- you see the same thing here in Minnesota. A couple families move in, they bring their extended families, word spreads, other members of their clan come, etc.
Not unexpected really; where would they be more comfortable- somewhere where they’d be the only Somalis in town, or where there’s already a population of them?
There’s also a significant population of Hmong; especially in St. Paul. Don’t know why they chose Minnesota, but I don’t think it was some government plot to put them here.
Hollowpoint on August 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Exactly.
Just as any criticism of Obama is deemed “racism”, Muslims have created the culture that any criticism of Islam/Muslims is deemed “Islamophobia”. Both parties do this to prohibit any relevant criticism, so that they don’t have to defend themselves against relevant critcisms. Simply demonize those who criticize and you’re golden.
Michael in MI on August 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I asked that very question earlier. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that.
Michael in MI on August 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Yeah, it’s right next to the anti-homosexual exception.
Mark Jaquith on August 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
oh…good point.
I may regret this but I’m gonna quote…someone…
drip drip drip…lol!
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 10:48 PM
I am the “I do not give a f**k” camp. But I do have issue with this
I had to fire someone because they refused to work Saturdays (Seventh Day Adventists), which he did not be let known during the interview…he threw some crap about suing me that I let roll down my back, and never got sued.
That was several years ago, but in today’s world, I bet my business would have been taken from me.I agree that it is a local thing and will not proliferate upon America. In the same voice, I have to say, What if?
lsutiger on August 5, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Slightly OT:
Given the inroads that Al Quaeda has made in Somalia, the question that comes to mind is how hard would it be for Al Quaeda operatives to immigrate here in the midst of the influx of refugees?
Disconcerting, to say the least.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Very good point!
lsutiger on August 5, 2008 at 10:54 PM
It would be of no difficulty whatsoever. The planners of the 9/11 attacks operated from within the US. This tends to get muddled in people’s minds because the jihadists were flying airplanes but remember that said airplanes took off from within the US.
As for border vigilance since then? Forget it. The Fort Dix plot was executed in 2007, partly by illegal immigrants. But then the terrorists were Kosovars (i.e. pro-American) so I guess they get a free pass, even if they do like to murder Americans in their spare time (we all have hobbies).
aengus on August 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM
“Who cares?”
Well, I do, not because they are Muslim, but because the radical Muslims want to destroy our country, either by culture or by force, and this plays into their hands. You can’t say that about conservative Jews or Hindus or Buddhists.
I also don’t believe it’s a benign holiday issue. Why are Somalis always the ones refusing to assimilate, like the airport taxi drivers?
PattyJ on August 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM
This has to be the goofiest controversy ever.
RightOFLeft on August 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I am guessing here, but I would imagine that radical Islamist leaders and agitators would find easy pickin’s among the newer immigrants, who are probably easily led by someone with an agenda who shares their faith in a strange new land.
I don’t believe it is all coincidental.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Muslim Brotherhood is well entrenched in Somalia…Gee
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 11:16 PM
You are very wise. It is just a minor matter with no other implications whatsoever.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Re-arranged for clarity.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 11:19 PM
you be
cleaveredclever…loljerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Some days you eat the chicken, some days the chicken eats you…
elgeneralisimo on August 5, 2008 at 11:29 PM
If things keep going at this rate, in like 2000 years 100% of Somali immigrants will be having barbecues on Eid instead of Labor day. The horror.
You are very goofy. And you’re right, it’s a minor matter with no other implications whatsoever.
RightOFLeft on August 5, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Hey Jim,
here’s an interesting link.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I don’t really see a problem with this.
aikidoka on August 5, 2008 at 11:33 PM
check the link above.
No correlation whatsoever…right…nah couldn’t even be remotely possible.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Don’t let MB-4 fool you. He is a clever one. He’s just not afraid to upset our delicate sensibilities.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 11:37 PM
true
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 11:39 PM
uh… ok? Are you worried that 250 Somalis are going to use their extra day off to overthrow the U.S. government? Seriously, you lost me…
RightOFLeft on August 5, 2008 at 11:42 PM
If Muslim employees, earning near or at minimum wage are allowed to have a day off of their choice, then the terrorists have all ready won…
elgeneralisimo on August 5, 2008 at 11:42 PM
What do you need ? A dissertation with 10,000 footnotes and a bibliography.
jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 11:44 PM
There are horrors being committed by all sides in Somalia, and it has been this way for a long time. I’m sure a lot of the refugees are just glad to escape the barbarism and poverty.
But I am not confident that the U.S. bureaucrats have any competence whatsoever in vetting potential immigrants.
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I have no problem with it. I will just refuse to buy product from Tyson foods. They make their choices and I make mine, no biggie.
pjf626 on August 5, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I am much more clever than he will ever be. It is my side that is making so many inroads afterall not his. And so it will continue to be, Allah willing.
Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 11:53 PM
In response to your wearing a hijab comparison:
What’s going on here is that they moved a holiday. Nothing more, nothing less. In your example, they would be forcing their dogma on others against their will. There’s a pretty big difference, and where I come from we like to call that “apples to oranges”.
OneGyT on August 5, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Dude. You made your point about 50 posts ago. Have you ever heard of beating a dead horse?
hillbillyjim on August 5, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Well, when it’s put that way.
;)
aikidoka on August 5, 2008 at 11:59 PM
True, but the latest round was backed by us the U.S.A.
and with the Muslim Brotherhood so much in charge…
I don’t know what else to tell you.
The irony here is that when they come for you…will there be anybody left ..
Yes, that is rhetorical. The point is that you have not read up on the Muslim Brotherhood.
These people think generational…much like the Chinese…which is another topic…
And they will slowly but surly chip away at our culture and feast on the bones of Western Civilization.
Ignore the warnings at your peril. Goodnight..
jerrytbg on August 6, 2008 at 12:02 AM
As usual, the event that gave rise to the discussion of the issue doesn’t necessarily have much to do with the issue itself.
Um … are we turning into women?
Anyway. I’m sure you can find a goofier controversy. Googling “sodium earthobate” might produce entertaining results, if it gets what I think it will.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 6, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I like beating dead infidels much more.
Aleph on August 6, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Natch.
hillbillyjim on August 6, 2008 at 12:13 AM
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