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The belated yet obligatory “Tyson Foods replaces Labor Day holiday with Eid” post

posted at 7:51 pm on August 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The flow of e-mails tells me people want to talk about this but I’m not sure what there is to say.

Workers at a Tyson Foods poultry processing plant in Tennessee have opted to trade a paid Labor Day holiday for the Muslim celebration of Eid al-Fitr.

A 5-year contract approved by members of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union at the Shelbyville, Tenn., plant last November includes the change to accommodate Muslim workers.

“The negotiating committee made the holiday a top priority in contract talks,” the union’s Alabama and Mid-South Council Representative Randy Hadley said in a statement issued in June. “And we were able to get management to commit to it.”…

“Given the nature of our work, many, many, many times we have to work holidays anyway, and Labor Day is usually one of those holidays that our workers have to work,” [Tyson spokesman Libby] Lawson said. “And, of course, they are paid holiday pay when they have to work any holiday that is recognized at our facility.”

Tyson officials said that approximately 250 of the plant’s 1,200 employees are Somalis who entered the United States as political refugees. Most, if not all, are believed to be Muslim — among them, Abdillahi Jama.

700 employees are Muslim. According to Tyson, fully 80 percent of the union’s 1,000 members agreed to the new holiday arrangement. If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares? And why are there rumblings about boycotting Tyson when it’s the union that’s driving this? Per the Fox News story, the policy isn’t company-wide; it applies to just that one plant to accommodate the laborers who bargained for it. Exit question: What am I missing? Is there an anti-Eid exception to freedom of contract?


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If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares? And why are there rumblings about boycotting Tyson when it’s the union that’s driving this?

No idea.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Is there an anti-Eid exception to freedom of contract?

Allah I think it is the fact that we are changing the traditions of America (via holidays) and letting people from other countries and nationalities have their way instead of becoming Americans.

I think THAT is the problem and I don’t blame them.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM

I think this story is a bigger story.

The DNC had Goodwill Industries which helps the poor pay for 20,000 gift baskets with 40 items each to hand out to delegates.

I knew the DNC was hard up for money but to see John Kerry and Ted Kenedy get free stuff from Goodwill will be priceless.

William Amos on August 5, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Here we go. This is just the beginning folks.

4shoes on August 5, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Allah I think it is the fact that we are changing the traditions of America (via holidays) and letting people from other countries and nationalities have their way instead of becoming Americans.

I think we crossed that bridge the first time any school or business gave its employees Yom Kippur off. Also, I’m not sure why having Eid off stops them from becoming Americans when they also get Independence Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM

Here we go. This is just the beginning folks.

The beginning of what? Muslims are one percent of the population. There’s no state involvement here that causes any First Amendment problems. Don’t be so reactionary.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM

“If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares?”

I basically agree. I am anti-terrorist, not anti-muslim. And I knew of businesses that were Jewish owned that closed on Jewish holidays. And I doubt if you will find many shops open in Pennsylvania Dutch country on Good Friday.

If 80% of the employees voted for that holiday, what the heck, this is America. Let them have it. Besides, the rest of the country said they would rather have legal Muslims in those jobs than illegal Christians. Tyson fired the Mexicans and hired the Somalis. Now they work on Cinco de Mayo but have off on el Eid. What’s the big deal?

crosspatch on August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

I think we crossed that bridge the first time any school or business gave its employees Yom Kippur off. Also, I’m not sure why having Eid off stops them from becoming Americans when they also get Independence Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM

When Jews begin sawing the heads off journalists you might have a point.

TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

I’m pretty sure the workers at Tyson aren’t sawing off heads.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Eh I dont have a problem if Tyson wanted to allow muslims to take off another day and work Christmas

However denying labor day for some to acomodate Muslims is a bit much.

William Amos on August 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM

I’m pretty sure the workers at Tyson aren’t sawing off heads.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Missing the point. Islam != other religions.

TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

I think we crossed that bridge the first time any school or business gave its employees Yom Kippur off. Also, I’m not sure why having Eid off stops them from becoming Americans when they also get Independence Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM

I will give you that, but when it comes down to it and the fact people everywhere are moved to traditions, Americans hold true to theirs.

Unionized or not, I don’t know anyone who gets their holidays off if they are a Jew or Seventh Day Adventists.

As I am not religous but more Spiritual… I think it has more implications because Labor Day is a National Holiday or rememberance when we started working in the fields for crops. EID is not an American holiday.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

So Muslims shouldn’t be treated equally? 80% of workers voted in a democracy to take off the day. You’re advocating overriding their will because Islam counts extremists as members?

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:06 PM

If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares?

Not me.

Spirit of 1776 on August 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM

I live 25 miles from Shelbyville–pronounced, by the way, “Shulbval”–and I think the holiday is a non-issue. The real issue is the importation of refugees by Catholic organizations. This is a small place which has been over-run the past few years by illegal aliens and Somali refugees.

robblefarian on August 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Americans hold true to theirs.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

And their top value is freedom. This wasn’t a decision by one guy to give Muslims off the day. It was a vote.

Unionized or not, I don’t know anyone who gets their holidays off if they are a Jew or Seventh Day Adventists.

Then you need to get out more. I’ve worked with several companies where Jews get off their holy days.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Besides isn’t EID like a week long? I know it is longer then a day in most cases.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Conservatives are against letting companies decide what days to let employees have a day off?

Interesting.

lorien1973 on August 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM

I do? Jesus I have been to 25 states…

My State and most of my employeers don’t go off religion or religous holidays. We are more for the family type.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Is EID the day they take barbed wire and hit themselves on the back until they bleed ??

redrock on August 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM

I do? Jesus I have been to 25 states…
upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM

And that means nothing. I can visit every nation on the face of the earth, but that doesn’t mean I understand that many companies give different religions their holiday off.

My State and most of my employeers don’t go off religion or religous holidays.

You guys work Christmas? I’m sorry. That stinks. Anyway, many people don’t and Tyson isn’t the first company to do what they did.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:13 PM

I don’t see a problem with this. Freedom of contract and all that.

Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 8:13 PM

I’m pretty sure the workers at Tyson aren’t sawing off heads.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Y’all might ask the chickens about that….

MrScribbler on August 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Another thing to keep in mind … the it generally takes three generations for people to fully assimilate. Those people’s grandkids will be wanting Labor Day off.

crosspatch on August 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM

This is not a big deal, unless you fly off the handle at the mere mention of the word Muslim.

brak on August 5, 2008 at 8:15 PM

My problem is that Eid is on a lunar calandar. So this means that it can fall on Thanksgiving, Christmas, The 4th, Memorial Day.

So will we still say no big deal?

I going to boycott, if Tyson want to bargain away American traditions I don’t have to buy there stuff.

jharada on August 5, 2008 at 8:15 PM

reminds me of the old woody allen joke about being hired by some company to be their token jew and then getting fired for taking all the jewish holidays off

here is a post, btw, that illustrates what people are really getting mad about in this story.

AdrianG on August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:13 PM

Oh come on amer, I have worked Christmas and Sunday’s. Doesn’t bother me to do it.

Is it ignorant if I have never had an employeer not do other religous holidays? No, and getting pissed at me for that is ignorant on yourself, not everyone has been around like you I guess. Heck I am still trying to figure out if those who take their religous holidays off get Christmas off. Does that make me a BAAAADDDD person. Nope.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

The problem is they took away Labor Day.

THey should have made EID an additional holiday so people can have off Labor Day as usual.

EJDolbow on August 5, 2008 at 8:19 PM

I agree with you, AP. The problem is (as it usually is) with unions.

Weight of Glory on August 5, 2008 at 8:21 PM

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

I’m not claiming it makes you a bad person. But people have to understand this isn’t something new. People of other religions have been getting their holidays off for a while. Now that workers at Tyson vote democratically to take off a Muslim holiday, there’s outrage and calls for boycott.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Careful, everyone. Many of the people here complaining about it may actually be libs pretending to be conservatives.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:23 PM

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Ok gotcha.

and I agree with ejdolbow. Should have just given them another day… what would it have hurt and everyone would have been happy I guess.

I am outtie you all have a great night.

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM

A holiday in honor of a pedophile warlord and founder of a faith built on terror and intimidation and intolerance and misogyny.

What’s the problem with honoring that?

profitsbeard on August 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM

My problem is that Eid is on a lunar calandar. So this means that it can fall on Thanksgiving, Christmas, The 4th, Memorial Day.

[jharada on August 5, 2008 at 8:15 PM]

Why is that a big deal, or should I ask if you are being sacastic?

On the latter two of those they get screwed out of a holiday. Thanksgiving is basically a religious holiday “secularized” to any religion (and those damn atheists get get a free ride) so they lose out again. Now that I think about it what’s the big deal about it coinciding with Christmas either?

Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

According to Tyson, fully 80 percent of the union’s 1,000 members agreed to the new holiday arrangement. If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares?

Swap “Labor Day” with “Fourth of July” and see if the blase quotent would be as high (I agree with an earlier poster that it would be better to swap religious holidays with religious holidays — if they want to keep the Shelbyville plant open and work on Christmas, since it’s not a high holy day for them, that’s fine, as long as you don’t start coercing non-Muslims to also work on that day).

jon1979 on August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

As I am not religous but more Spiritual

AARRRGGHH!!!! No offense, dude, but I hate it when people say that.

It’s even worse when someone says:

“Yeah, I don’t believe in a god, but I’m spiritual.”

Yeah, you don’t believe in a spiritual being but you are spiritual. Okkaaaaay….

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

I have a bigger problem with the fact that they hire illegals on a regular basis. I don’t know if they have been broken of the habit yet but they have had several raids. I know in their day unions made a lot of sense but they have been counterproductive for a long time.

Cindy Munford on August 5, 2008 at 8:28 PM

I personally think that Labor Day was the perfect one to substitute to be honest. Labor Day exists to honor laborers and in this case the laborers chose a different day. It sound like it honors the spirit of the idea to me.

Dawnsblood on August 5, 2008 at 8:28 PM

I was totally bummed that it was Tyson Foods.
I was hoping it was a company that I could start boycotting, but I have been boycotting Tyson for years.

Darn it!

TheSitRep on August 5, 2008 at 8:29 PM

No big deal; if anyone has a problem with this, start buying Pilgrim’s Pride; better chicken anyway.

carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 8:31 PM

I’d tell ‘em if they want their own holidy they should go start up their own chicken company.

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:33 PM

A company is an association of persons for carrying on a commercial or industrial enterprise. As such, I don’t care what lawful behavior they engage in as long as it doesn’t affect the quality, price, or availability of their product in a negative manner.

Now, if you could show that a Tyson employee’s observance of Eid somehow lowers the quality of Tyson chicken, I’d be willing to listen.

Sure, Tyson sucks, but this isn’t one of the reasons why.

jaime on August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Just as an FYI, Jesus was pretty anti-religion pro spirituality.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with relieving yourself of man made hoopla (see christmas trees, not eating x on day y, no “working” on day z, etc.) in order to find a closer connection to God.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

my company designed homes for both Don Tyson (Tyson Chicken) and Red Hudson (Hudson Foods) I think Don would be very disappointed in this however, he also was a good employee boss, he took care of his employees Tyson was and probably is one of the better paying manual labor jobs in the area. if most of the employees were Muslim I can see he might have done the same thing. and he is still a consultant to the company, and his son is chairman of the board.
-
btw only Union workers will have this Muslim holiday, non union will still have a labor day holiday. and the union is almost all Muslim in that plant.

Kaptain Amerika on August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

I think we crossed that bridge the first time any school or business gave its employees Yom Kippur off.

Which school or business? I never got it. Then again, I’m not from New York.

Incidentally, this incident is only #5 when you Google “Boycott Tyson.” Reasons cited have to do with bad treatment of workers, not special privileges: Employing illegal aliens, providing an unsafe work environment, or giving insufficient compensation (all of which, of course, feed into each other). In some sense, the fact that they bended to a union’s whim is good news here. It’s more ironic than scary: A union voting to get rid of Labor Day.

calbear on August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Can someone who is upset about this please list for me which U.S. holidays are sacred and not to be worked at all cost and which are free from that burden. I want to forward the list to my fiancee’s hospital.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Wait! I got it!!

Employees at a Tyson Foods want a Muslim holiday off.

Mike Tyson is a Muslim.

Labor Day is a day that children have school off.

Mike Tyson wants to eat children.

OMG!!! Mike Tyson owns Tyson Foods!!!!!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:35 PM

… I have been boycotting Tyson for years. - SitRep

Yeah me too, since the 90’s, it had something to do with Klinton in Arkansas, but now I don’t even remember why.

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Hey, at least the folks at Jimmy Dean’s Pork Sausage and Smithfield Ham won’t have to worry about any of this nonsense happening with them.

pilamaye on August 5, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Mike Tyson wants to eat children. - Deth

Ha! He got the taste of Holyfield’s ear and never looked back!

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:37 PM

DeathMetalCookieMonst

He wishes!

Cindy Munford on August 5, 2008 at 8:38 PM

Just as an FYI, Jesus was pretty anti-religion pro spirituality.

Then why were his disciples starting/growing/teaching-at churches?

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with relieving yourself of man made hoopla (see christmas trees, not eating x on day y, no “working” on day z, etc.) in order to find a closer connection to God.

I”m not referring to people who believe in God. I mentioned that the one remark irked me but it’s mainly because it reminds me of athiests saying “I don’t believe in God but I’m very spiritual”.

I’m mainly referring to atheism, not christians who don’t practice every bit of dogmatic law or who don’t have crosses all over their house.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:38 PM

So,were seeing the old values,traditions,slowly
go out the window,with the slow process of creeping
incrementalization of Muslim values and traditions!

And again,this union,with Muslims as the majority,
was this by design,or pure serendipity,sh#t luck,
that they happened to have a majority in their union
to be able to make the changes!

canopfor on August 5, 2008 at 8:39 PM

If 750 out of 1000 workers are Islamic then of course they can vote to replace unbelievers holidays with their own.

The Tyson folks said they were often so busy that they were forced to work on the holidays. I’m sure that Islamic holy days will never be trampled by commerce in this way.

What are you missing? Nothing overtly explosive. Just a sign of the impact that a tiny fraction of the population (less than 1% you said) has on the landscape it finds itself in. What other group is catered to as carefully as the slaves of Allah? Britain is 2%? Look at their situation.

Nothing to see here folks move along.

BL@KBIRD on August 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM

If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares?
[...]
Exit question: What am I missing? Is there an anti-Eid exception to freedom of contract?

Good Lord, you are such a suicidal fool.

Lee on August 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM

… the folks at Jimmy Dean’s Pork Sausage and Smithfield Ham won’t have to worry about any of this … - Pila

HAHA! But they might have this problem at Habersett’s … ’cause I don’t think muslims (or anybody else for that matter) know what scrapple is made out of!

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM

upinak on August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

agreed… sharia creeppppp

jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 8:41 PM

This whole situation would piss me off if less then 50% of the people working at that specific branch (or whatever you call it) were muslim. Considering that the majority are, there is really no reason to get a hissy-fit.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:41 PM

The beginning of what? Muslims are one percent of the population. There’s no state involvement here that causes any First Amendment problems. Don’t be so reactionary.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM

1) One percent of the population - Muslim Holidays replacing American Holidays.
2) Two percent of the population - Muslim prayer breaks.
3) Three percent of the population - Women who work with Muslims must be covered.
4) Four percent of the population - Men who work with Muslims must grow beards.

Well, I’m not sure of the exact progression, but I think I can see the general pattern. I don’t even want to think above about 10 percent.

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

Not feeling the outrage on this one. Were it Thanksgiving, Independence Day or Christmas I might have a different opinion, but Labor Day? It’s a nearly meaningless holiday that serves as little more than an excuse for a late Summer three-day weekend.

Hollowpoint on August 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

Eid

Die backwards. Ah ha…….

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

Once the camel’s nose is in the test, can the rest be far behind? This is the United States. We celebrate Labor Day in the US. If you don’t like it, live somewhere else. Jews don’t celebrate Christmas–but they don’t insist on replacing it with Hannuka. Multiculturalism is going to be the death of the West. These particular Somalis may be very sweet right now, but will they always be? I’m not accepting Islamic culture in any way shape or form. I’m not letting any well-meaning liberal idiot give away my culture.

The radicals who are trying to bring down our society are using our tolerance and liberalism against us–to destroy us. Is it not a question of time until precedents, such as these, make it impossible for us to hold our own? Look around. Europe is dead. The Brits just threw in the towel. The curtain is coming down, and actions like this are hastening it. Multiculturalism is the result of relativism and self-doubt.

Tyson gets not one penny out of me from now on.

ahem on August 5, 2008 at 8:43 PM

Then you need to get out more. I’ve worked with several companies where Jews get off their holy days.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM

all well and good, but to replace one holiday with another…why not both? creep creep..sharia creep…
don’t by into this…please

jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM

If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares?

Here’s where your logic breaks down:

Christians in America don’t enjoy the same “tolerance” when it comes to these issues. Presumably Tyson runs their production line on Easter and I’d bet that there is no exception for Christianity’s highest holy day. Until Christians are given the same rights as Muslims and the Christ-haters known as atheists, there is no room for exceptions.

highhopes on August 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Swap “Labor Day” with “Fourth of July” Martin Luther King day and see if the blase quotent would be as high

jon1979 on August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Not feeling the outrage on this one. Were it Thanksgiving, Independence Day or Christmas I might have a different opinion, but Labor Day? It’s a nearly meaningless holiday that serves as little more than an excuse for a late Summer three-day weekend.

Yep, I feel the same way.

Look at it this way, fellas. It’s a business, doing what the business wants to do, not what the government wants it to do.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Muslims wanting their own holiday, ‘no big deal’.

Muslims cab drivers not taking seeing-eye dogs, ‘no big deal’.

Muslims refusing to handle pork at Target checkout, ‘no big deal’.

Muslims demanding foot baths in college, ‘no big deal’.

etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, no big deal.

But add ‘em all together …?

(P.S., the seeing-eye dog one IS a big deal).

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

drip drip drip

bill30097 on August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Christians in America don’t enjoy the same “tolerance” when it comes to these issues. Presumably Tyson runs their production line on Easter and I’d bet that there is no exception for Christianity’s highest holy day. Until Christians are given the same rights as Muslims and the Christ-haters known as atheists, there is no room for exceptions.

Easter is on Sunday. Very unlikely that they would be running their production line that day. Unless you have proof otherwise, that dog won’t hunt.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Just as an FYI, Jesus was pretty anti-religion pro spirituality.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

No he wasn’t. Learn what a religion is.

Darth Executor on August 5, 2008 at 8:48 PM

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM

pft… Most people I know who work in the private sector don’t have off MLK day. Nice try though.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

I’m pretty sure the workers at Tyson aren’t sawing off heads.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Why is it that I saw that exchange and thought “no, they’re being bitten off.”

cthulhu on August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Allah hates you this I know
For the Koran tells me so
Infidels Christians and Jews we defeat
They are weak but we are strong

Yes Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you,
The Koran tells me so.

Allah hates you, you will die
Blow your ass up on labor day to the sky
Say the salat, chop off infidel chicken head,
Eat falafel, go to bed.

Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you!

The Koran tells me so.

Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

If a workforce with a huge Muslim contingent wants to make a deal with management to have their biggest religious holiday off, who cares?

So why dump an American holiday in favor of a specialized holiday if not to poke a stick in our eyes? Why not have both? Did you notice that they didn’t give up Christmas, a religious holiday that means nothing to them?

CrimsonFisted on August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Since we’re talking about all things Tyson

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Taking a trip down memery lane,for those who might
have forgot!

Allegations of influence peddling!

A Tyson executive was convicted!

Hillary Rodham Clinton served as Lawyer
for Tyson foods,while Bill was President!

http://www.laborers.org/projo_TysonChicken_1-10-02.htm

canopfor on August 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM

pft… Most people I know who work in the private sector don’t have off MLK day. Nice try though.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Racist!!!

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM

From the article:

But Tyson spokeswoman Libby Lawson told FOXNews.com that employees who are not a member of the union at that plant would still be eligible for Labor Day as a paid holiday.

The seven additional paid holidays are the employee’s birthday, New Year’s Day, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas, Mickelson said.

But we’re on the verge of sharia because they decided to ditch Labor Day.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:52 PM

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:46 PM

They have the habit of starting off with the most innocuous of requests…
And before you know it …you’ve got to start praying to mecca 5 times a day.

jerrytbg on August 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Three percent of the population - *INFIDEL* women who work with Muslims must be covered. - MB4

And don’t forget number 5), police not allowed in muslims ‘no-go zones’.

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM

pft… Most people I know who work in the private sector don’t have off MLK day. Nice try though.

And the ones that do usually have primarily minorities working for them. Just like since the one Tyson branch mainly has Muslims working for them, they have a Muslim holiday off.

Again, people, it’s the right of the business to operate that way. Don’t get the government involved.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM

But we’re on the verge of sharia because they decided to ditch Labor Day.

amerpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:52 PM

drip drip drip

bill30097 on August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM

No he wasn’t. Learn what a religion is.

Darth Executor on August 5, 2008 at 8:48 PM

Unless you’re reading a different Bible than I am, yes he certainly was against it in this context. Or, more appropriately, those who claimed the mantle of religion were against him. See Mark 3:1-6 for a perfect work day example.

Then ask yourself who was it that pushed for his fake trial and execution? religious people or non-religious?

…but this is a huge digression.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM

Refugee Resettlement Watch follows this type issue very closely.

DerKrieger on August 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Here we go. This is just the beginning folks.

The beginning of what? Muslims are one percent of the population. There’s no state involvement here that causes any First Amendment problems. Don’t be so reactionary.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM

I can’t help but be reactionary. This particular religious group gets away with far too much as it is.

4shoes on August 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM

I wonder if CAIR has a wish list,for
changing all those American traditions
that might offend the average Muslim!

Me thinks,there might be a grand blueprint
somewhere with a long term strategy on how
the west can be changed to accomadate their
(Muslims)lifestyles!

And ya,I know its crazy talk!

or

Is it!:)

canopfor on August 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM

I’m utterly unoffended. How many of you would have your panties in a twist if 80% of the company decided that it was appropriate to take Good Friday and Easter off, and give up Labor Day?

Show of hands?

Tanya on August 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Did you notice that they didn’t give up Christmas, a religious holiday that means nothing to them?

CrimsonFisted on August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Ever think that maybe they didn’t dump Christmas in order to accomodate their Christian co-workers?

I mean come on… it’s Labor Day.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM

I have got an idea. Some of us should all get together and start working for a small company in Saudi Arabia and say we want a muslim holiday replaced with Christmas. Do I have any takers?

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM

I wrote Tyson and this is what they said:

Thank you for contacting Tyson Foods. Contrary to recent reports, Labor Day has not been done away with at the Tyson plant in Shelbyville, TN.
Recent RWDSU (Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union) contract negotiations resulted in a different holiday for workers covered by the contract, for which the union bargained. Employees not covered by the contract will still have Labor Day as a paid holiday. The union asked for and received eid al-fitr in place of Labor Day as a paid holiday.
Employees receive eight paid holidays per year, which is the same number provided in the old contract. The contract does not provide for an additional holiday.

wepeople on August 5, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Yeah, I reaaalllly don’t see what’s so wrong with this. Some of you are being a bit too paranoid. Sure, Muslims (even the “mainstream” ones) often go too far with their demands of society to fit their mold, and we can oppose them when they do that. But as Allah said, no need to get so reactionary. Seriously.

OneGyT on August 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Exit question: What am I missing? Is there an anti-Eid exception to freedom of contract?

Well there was that famous NYC landmark that was bathed in green light for a certain religion that happens to be one percent…

With publically funded footbaths, Muslims schools doing what the ACLU skewers Christians for, and the fairly obvious political ambitions of Islam within the US this just feels wrong.

Then there is the TB.

Theworldisnotenough on August 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM

MB4 on August 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM

I’m down but only if we replace it with some non-religious, excuse for a bar-b-q holiday, as was done here.

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM

How many of you would have your panties in a twist if 80% of the company decided that it was appropriate to take Good Friday and Easter off, and give up Labor Day?

Show of hands?

Tanya on August 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM

That would be any insult to the Prophet. If I see any hands I and all good Muslims will go into a rage.

Aleph on August 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Unless you’re reading a different Bible than I am, yes he certainly was against it in this context. Or, more appropriately, those who claimed the mantle of religion were against him. See Mark 3:1-6 for a perfect work day example.

Yet his disciples started churches and preached, which he told them to do.

He wasn’t against religion. If he was, do you think he would have quoted the Tora and the Prophecies of the OT? He was angry because they were afraid of losing power and felt that Jesus was a false prophet.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Tony737 on August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Yours is a good point. We need to separate them into two parts: private sector and governmental mandated. And let the private sector work congruent with our foundational freedom of religious expression, and fight all the governmental religious exceptions.

Spirit of 1776 on August 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I think we crossed that bridge the first time any school or business gave its employees Yom Kippur off. Also, I’m not sure why having Eid off stops them from becoming Americans when they also get Independence Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Allahpundit on August 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM

JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST ALLAHPUNDIT IS, EVERY SCHOOL AND BUSINESS GIVES JEWS THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE YOM KIPPUR. THAT’S RIGHT FOLKS, ITS CALLED “PERSONAL TIME OFF” AND USUALLY COMES OUT OF VACATION TIME (SOMETIMES SICK LEAVE). I CHALLENGE ALLAHPUNDIT TO LIST THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT INCLUDE YOM KIPPUR AS A PAID HOLIDAY OR OFFICIAL SCHOOL HOLIDAY.

YOUR “PROOF” IS FLAWLESS AS USUAL ALLAPUNDIT.

Andy in Agoura Hills on August 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I got an idea..

MB4 on Aug 5,2008 at 9:00PM.

MB4:Now,that has got to be one of your more brilliant
ideas,but,you go first,I’ll hold your jacket while
your head is on the block!

Because thats the answer you’ll get!

canopfor on August 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Andy in Agoura Hills on August 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM

lmfao

12thman on August 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM

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