Did Obama endorse rolling blackouts?
posted at 1:30 pm on August 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama repeated his call for a 15% reduction in electrical demand in Youngstown, Ohio, and held California up as a model for the rest of the nation to follow. Claiming that the Golden State made great strides towards efficiency, Obama apparently forgot the travails California went through:
Finally, I will call on businesses, government, and the American people to meet the goal of reducing our demand for electricity 15% by the end of the next decade. This is by far the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way to reduce our energy consumption – and it will save us $130 billion on our energy bills. One report found that right here in Ohio, improvements in energy efficiency can help save homes and businesses $1.5 billion in energy costs by 2020.
The state of California has implemented such a successful efficiency strategy that while electricity consumption grew 60% in this country over the last three decades, it didn’t grow at all in California. There is no reason we can’t do the same thing all across America.
Let’s emulate California? First, California didn’t cut their demand; they only kept it from increasing. Next, people may remember how well California’s energy policy worked over the last two decades. The aging infrastructure, price mandates, and botched privatization led the state into years of rolling blackouts, where utilities simply cut off supply in order to compensate for an inability to meet demand. Governor Gray Davis got recalled from office over the issue, but the blackouts continued for years afterward.
And again, California never did reduce demand, not even by 5%, let alone 15%. I’m not sure Californians would feel like a great example of an energy policy that worked, and I doubt the rest of the nation feels differently. And Obama once again repeated his pledge to get a million more plug-hybrids (at 150 mpg!) on the road while cutting electrical demand, a neat trick that Obama still hasn’t explained.
Obama also talked about jobs, but for some reason didn’t mention the jobs that would get created through a responsible energy policy:
The payoff from these investments in renewable energy sources will be renewable energy jobs across Ohio and across America. Now, I know that over the past eight years, you’ve lost more 236,000 manufacturing jobs in this state. But I also know that Ohio has the second highest potential of all fifty states to create new wind energy manufacturing jobs – and investing in wind power could increase workers’ wages in Ohio by more than $3.5 billion through the year 2020. I also know that with the right investments, this state could save $24 billion a year that you spend importing energy, and instead, power two million homes using wind power.
Eventually, when mass-production sources of energy are found, it will result in jobs. Those will come much later than even Obama’s pessimistic predictions of oil production from domestic drilling, at least ten years out and maybe more than that. Domestic drilling, however, would create jobs now. ANWR alone would create 750,000 jobs, and deep-sea drilling more than that. It would create American jobs at home as investments increased in our own resources — and could easily be done at the same time and in parallel to work developing energy sources of the future.
Why not do both? Obama never explains that, just as he never explains how we’ll cut 15% of our electrical demand while transferring vehicles to electricity.
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Could I possibly hate democrats more?
Why are they opposed to economic growth? I don’t get it.
lorien1973 on August 5, 2008 at 1:32 PM
I voted for Ahnold expecting The Gipper…instead I got a girly-man…ohhhhh boy…
ocbrat on August 5, 2008 at 1:33 PM
Reason # 2345 not to vote for him.
Barrack Obama is an arrogant man.
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Anyways, here’s your winning campaign commercial my McCain or the RNC.
Get this Obama quote, cut it short by about 3 seconds (right after California) to a black screen. Wait a moment or two. And say California, Obama’s model, has periodic rolling blackouts to stop its usage of energy. Is this his plan for America?
Or something like that.
I make great campaign ads. someone should use my ideas!
lorien1973 on August 5, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Because economic growth means power to the people; economic misery means power to the government. And, yes, you could hate Democrats more because I hate them the most. No one hates them more than me, so catch up.
Rational Thought on August 5, 2008 at 1:34 PM
He did indeedio. What he doesn’t explain is when you live in Montana (like I do) what you do when it’s well below freezing, the electricity is on a rolling blackout, and therefore your heat doesn’t work. I could start a fire in my front yard but then I’m contributing to global warming.
mjk on August 5, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Pray for wind.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM
The probabilities are high.
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM
If we decrease electricity by 15%, what are going to use power all of the electric vehicles that will be on the road because we have weened ourselves off of (nasty, sickening) foreign oil? Answer that one, Messiah.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 1:36 PM
It’s not the Democrats that need to be hated. It’s the “-ists” that have invaded that party. By “-ists”, I mean the Marxists/Leninists/Stalinists/Socialists/Communists, etc.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Ed, you forgot to mention that California was also buting a bunch of Electricity from other State to compensate as well. Utah, Washington and I forget the other State was ticked and was getting pennies on the dollar as the California Electric Companies were raking in the money.
Also this is a median number, it may become more depending on how much, if any, drilling is allowed.
upinak on August 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM
CA is keeping a lid on demand by refusing to increase supply and denuding the state of manufacturing jobs and facilities. Companies are moving out due to the high tax and regulation conditions to more favorable climes. popultion growth is not due to US citizens moving in, there is a net outflow there. Immigrants, (legal or otherwise) abound and are making lots of babies.
Employment growth is highest in government, even as they go broke.
Obama’s dream is for such a diseased state to become the norm for the country.
Harry Schell on August 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM
The only way demand for electric will go down 15% is if we have a depression.
This guy just keeps getting scarier.
forest on August 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Obama’s lords would revel in the hardships that blackouts produce. Drive the public crazy to take whatever the government allows, and say “merci beaucoup” to Obama for nothing but pain and hardship.
AS IF energy is to be denied as the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Keep us all dumb?
OBAMA IS THE QUINTESSENTIAL RACIST treating all Americans like slaves. His cowardice and his intellectual fraud have been exposed. He is now reacting with an inferiority complex, tightening the screws while telling us to sing his praises.
He even got the “tune-up” advice wrong since modern cars post late 1980’s don’t get “tune-ups” since their engines are computer generated. Barack is out of touch with everything except Marx.
maverick muse on August 5, 2008 at 1:40 PM
It seems Glowbama was reading Bob Herbert’s latest today.
According to the NYT affirmative action columnist and national laughingstock, all we need to do is turn over our energy policy to deep thinkers Jerry Brown, Chuckie Schumer, Jimmy Carter and Al Gore and all will be fine.
JammieWearingFool on August 5, 2008 at 1:40 PM
But you know what would help?
Mandating people to recycle but making COPS go through their trash to make sure they are sorting correctly.
yeah, California is not exactly full of proper priorities.
mjk on August 5, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Why didn’t he just propose our changing our A/C filters often and cleaning the condenser coils each week?
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 1:42 PM
C’mon Ed. You know that’s racist. BLACKouts.
there it is on August 5, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Pretty soon, he’ll be calling for governments (local, state, federal) to reclaim land by eminent domain, that was given to developers to increase tax revenues, for the use of establishing
“prison farms”green collar jobs./sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I don’t get it. Where did the 15% number come from? If you put out goals like this they need to be tied to some tangible outcome. Why 15% and not 10% or 20%? And what does it do for us? Yes, energy consumption will be down but that may not even translate into “savings” if the cost per Kilowatt rises as a result of less usage.
highhopes on August 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM
That prayer has already been answered.
NeighborhoodCatLady on August 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Show us the calcs, Barack.
– What are the methods of saving energy?
– What’s the investment cost for these energy saving methods?
– Whats the O&M for these methods?
– What’s the return on investment?
I’m not in Missouri, I’m in NY but I’ll still say, “Show Me!” Put them on your website, Barack.
Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Anything related to a Kennedy should be kept at a safe distance. Anything merging with a Kennedy is a Kennedy, regardless of gender or tradition. He’s their frumpy girly-man, giving them the false image of accepting of other points of view. And now with Carolyn picking the DNC VP, Ugh.
maverick muse on August 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM
OK. Have about BROWNouts? Nope. Still racist. How about fluffy pink cloud-outs?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Looking at a map of California, it does looks like a phallic symbol.
Sergei on August 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM
I knew i heard this idiot say that , and first thing i thought was” oh yeah the rest of the country wants to be as screwed up as we are in Cali” did anyone tell Nobama that our generators run on natural gas , dose he know we have to drill for that too . maybe he can just go stand out by the wind farm on 580 and open his pie hole and spew forth more bs on the days when we need more wind .
sure you just have to give them some more time .
Mojack420 on August 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Oh! and one other thing. Say we “save” $130B, where does that savings go? Do people bank it or do they spend it or does government up taxes to take it as McCain and Obama both suggest?
highhopes on August 5, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Can Obama send someone out who actually knows what in the hell they are talking about for once?
This guy is just an actor playing a President on TV, reading the lines.
All he’s trained in is the law, and it’s not even a given he knows a whole lot about that.
So can we dispense with the middle man here? Who is behind these ideas? We know it’s not him. He’s merely the delivery man.
NoDonkey on August 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM
It struck me as I was tihnking today that Barry’s entire plan is extremely self-destructive.
It has no practical ideas, he wants to cut us off from being able to use gasoline, expects all of us to spend a ton of cash to be able to access the power network…
He is a nut.
benrand on August 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM
California is pretty blessed, weather-wise.
It would be interesting to know how the housing bubble affected our energy use, too. With easy refinancing, flipping, home equity loans, and rapidly rising equity, I imagine installing new energy-efficient appliances and air conditioners was pretty common during the last few years.
MayBee on August 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Let’s not forget that if Barry gets the presidency, he and his little buddies in Congress have made it a point to go after big bad OIL. The fallout from that will be thousands of jobs lost by people who work for the oil companies. I have yet to hear him address his solution for those people — or are they supposed to go get jobs at the alternative energy factories (despite the fact that they aren’t trained in that area)? Unemployment will be at its highest level ever if Barry and the rest of the Dem morons win big this fall. I guess taxes will have to be raised even higher to pay for all the unemployment. Change we can all believe in, from someone who has the judgment to lead…
Rick on August 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I’m surprised he didn’t suggest that. He’s just full of ideas.
forest on August 5, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Why must we decrease electricity by 15%? Just build a new plant.
You can not conserve your way out of a recession. You just end up paying more for less as those utility companies raise their rates to compensate for less energy usage.
economic expansion means using more energy not less.
unseen on August 5, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Stay tuned for next week’s episode of “Hope and Change”…
Rick on August 5, 2008 at 1:52 PM
This is Affirmative Action on display.
It’s not lookin pretty. This man is a fool. I’m so glad it’s not Hillary.
stenwin77 on August 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM
I don’t understand this concept of reduction of electricity use. We are a civilization based on electricity and we should be advocating the expansion of electrical uses rather than the reduction. Imagine how much oil consumption could be reduced if houses and buildings were changed to electric heat. Our problem is not how much electricity we use but how much the environmental movement has restricted us from expanding. We do not have a shortage of resources but rather an abundance of environmentalists. I vote for a 15% reduction in environmentalists rather than electricity.
jmarcure on August 5, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Details are not a strong suit for Obama.
He calls upon the energy faeries to assist him.
drjohn on August 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM
I am hoping for a very cold fall in the Northeast. that 9% lead by BHO over McCain in MA could disappear rather quickly has the fuel bills start showing up. Hopefully if the fall is cold enough we can save thousands from freezing to death come winter. by getting rid of the dems leadership.
unseen on August 5, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Does anyone know what he’s talking about when he says “renewable energy”? Exactly how would this create jobs unless he’s talking about some new federal entity … Department of Renewable Energy … at a cost of billions to to manage and pay the bureaucracy it would birth.
Screw this guy … everything he talks about sounds like it would bring us closer and closer to what the old USSR was.
darwin on August 5, 2008 at 1:59 PM
I was expecting something even simpler: Go naked.
aero on August 5, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Well, that’s one way to make sure our thermostats aren’t set to 72 degrees!
lorien1973 on August 5, 2008 at 1:59 PM
That cuts it! If Barry is looking at California as our example I’m voting for him! I personally get up every morning and sigh and wish that I lived in California and it sure sounds like he’s going to remake to whole nation to look just like them! McNumbnuts campaign can’t make this stuff up themselves!
sabbott on August 5, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Obama: “Blah blah blah blah. Thank you, and did I mention, if you vote for me I’ll give you $1000 bucks???!!!”
4shoes on August 5, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Why not do both? Obama never explains that, just as he never explains how we’ll cut 15% of our electrical demand while transferring vehicles to electricity.
Details are not a strong suit for Obama.
He calls upon the energy faeries to assist him.
drjohn on August 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM
No he has a very detailed plan on how to destroy this country.
He does not want low energy prices. Her understands low energy prices brings great economic growth. The environmental wackos/communists don’t want this country to get stronger. we have a 13trllion economony 4 times the size of the next largest economy Japan. In order to change the world to a less USA centric place the USA economy must brought down to the other countries levels therefore high energy prices in the USa is needed to accomplish this goal. So you keep gasoline prices high, you change over to electricity while limiting electric production thus making all energy in the USA expensive. The freed up gasoline will then be used by China, India and others to fuel their economy and become the USA equal thereby “as the peace in our time folks believe” ensureing peace has everyone is on equal footing and then no one has a reason to go to war.
unseen on August 5, 2008 at 2:02 PM
This guy and his followers sincerely scare me.
- The Cat
P.S. McCain may not be the perfect conservative, but Obama is the perfect socialist.
- The Cat
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 2:03 PM
I’m sure I’m not a lone but I won’t be cutting my use of electricity back a single kW. His assumption is a poor one, i.e. Americans waste 15% of their electricity by “you know, setting their thermostats at 72 degrees. We can’t do that anymore.”
DerKrieger on August 5, 2008 at 2:03 PM
10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[4]
How many of these 10 do democrats support? 8 or 9 maybe? All 10 perhaps?
lorien1973 on August 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM
I LOVE IT!!!
ocbrat on August 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM
My God, he *is* insane. (And I live here!)
irishspy on August 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM
I believe Michelle O. clued us into this when she said Barrack would expect us to work hard! I think Obama thinks we are the renewable energy. We’re the ones we’ve been waiting for… Or something.
Hope!
Change!
4shoes on August 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM
And how this isn’t an ethics (vote buying) violation, I don’t know.
- The Cat
P.S. He’s the walking Nigerian Scam.
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM
drjohn,
Unicorn flatulence is an abundant, powerful, and clean source of natural gas. The self styled President Obama should have advocated that as an energy source.
Harnessing the flatulence of mythical creatures is about as realistic a scenario as cutting the United States’ energy demands by 15% and expecting anything other than economic collapse to occur.
Mike Honcho on August 5, 2008 at 2:06 PM
If we have rolling blackouts, how am I supposed to recharge my electric car batteries on a regular basis? Duh-oh, I got it…I can use my gas powered generator to recharge my electric batteries. Obamessiah…what will he think of next?
sdd on August 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM
I think this is the
the Cali model BHO likes
we will cut electricity use by 15% and we dont care if you melt or freeze , we are saving the planet from you .
Mojack420 on August 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM
because he will give you a $1000 but tax you $4000 so your still losing $3000 its the dimocRAT way .
Mojack420 on August 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Obama will mandate all healthy citizens to take shifts running on giant hamster wheels. Then we’ll all lose weight and generate clean, renewable energy at the same time! Perfect solution.
aero on August 5, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Better yet, let’s emasculate California! Oops. I guess that explains everything already. Never mind.
[grumble, grumble, grumble] Friggin’ pussies. [Grumble, grumble, grumble]
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM
So, looks like Obama is just trying to make it easier to transition into a third-world nation. I, for one, welcome my new overlords. I’m just waiting to be carted off to the nearest
gulagreeducation camp.Anna on August 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM
I just saw his new ad. It’s no longer a rebate. It’s now a tax cut.
- The Cat
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Thanks! I didn’t realize I was so important to the “renewable energy” plan. I had erroneously thought liberals wanted us to reduce our population by aborting everything in sight.
darwin on August 5, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Because they want to control it.
CP on August 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM
If you’re looking for Obama’s overarching principle, it’s socialism. Everyone must be equally miserable. Not to make the country great, but mediocre. When has he promoted a policy that inspires people to reach higher. Let’s cut back on our energy use and become as weak as possible. I’m all for conservation, but what about something more to help make this country great.
Paul-Cincy on August 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM
It won’t save consumers a penny if Cap and Trade goes into effect, it will only mean you will have to find a way to get by with 15% less energy. But with Cap and Trade, you may be paying two or three times as much for the amount you are still using. Thus your $100.00 electric bill will become a $300.00 electric bill but you will be receiving LESS energy.
BO, your plan stinks, DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!! BUILD MORE COAL FIRED PLANTS AND NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND REFINERIES. WE WANT ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR AMERICA NOW AND IN THE FUTURE!! AND NO CAP AND TRADE SCAMS!!
Maxx on August 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM
A “mediocre” country would then more easily drawn into the jaws of the UN’s “global governace” scheme. As it stands now, we’re way too free, way too independent and must be beaten down a bit doncha know.
darwin on August 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM
A tax cut that is funded by increasing the taxes on oil companies. “To each according to their need; from each according to their ability.” Yep. Paul-Cincy, you are correct, sir.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM
So far Obama hasn’t advocated cold fusion as an alternative source of energy. It makes more sense than most of his program.
Cicero43 on August 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM
All this alternative energy stuff makes me wanna do bad things the the wall with my head. Before any of this is usable, some is going to have to invent a new way of travel.
- The Cat
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM
We WILL reach Obama’s goal of 15% reduction in electricity usage if he is allowed to tax us back to the Stone Age.
One of the best (of many) things that President Bush did was to reject the Kyoto accord. As much as I dislike McCain, a vote for him is a vote against Obama.
Doug on August 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM
This would make a good ad.
Announcer: “Obama’s Energy Plan”
Then shut the lights out on LA.
drjohn on August 5, 2008 at 2:30 PM
you mean like the giant wheel they chained Conan as a child .
Hmmm would that make BHO thusa doom and we saw how well that worked out for him .
Mojack420 on August 5, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Does Barry hold stock in the Soylent company?
Hmmm…
benrand on August 5, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Personally, I think Obama’s 15% reduction in electricity usage will easily be achieved.
With his proposed 35% reduction in oil consumption and 80% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, we will most likely be spending our time walking to and from work (25 miles for me) so when we finally get home we will only have time and energy to put on our sweaters and crawl into bed.
cntrlfrk on August 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Things liberals hate: oil, corporations, trans-fats, cigarettes, light bulbs, toilets with enough water to flush, SUVs, free speech, God, the United States military, missle defense, suburbs, paper sacks, corporal punishment in schools, personal responsibility, plastic bags, styrofoam, freon, prayer in schools, the Founding Fathers, Foxnews, talk radio, DDT, open debate, guns, pro-lifers, loggers, secure borders, competition, and now…electricity.
flyfisher on August 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM
[forest on August 5, 2008 at 1:50 PM]
Think of what you want before opening that refrigerator door!11!!!
Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Thank you Ed for telling the truth about energy ‘conservation’ in my state of Kaleeforneah. It just shows what a stoopid politician Barack is.
I guess BO has a point tho, if you take into account our population and the ‘relatively low energy consumption’. What he isn’t saying is that many of us can’t afford, say, air conditioning, (like my family), and others live out on the street, the canyons or in jail. (In Arizona they do have folks living in tents–in Sherriff Joe’s turf.)
Christine on August 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Deport 50 million illegals and watch our fuel and energy demand drop like a rock.
darwin on August 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Proof that dems don’t THINK anything through. They lack logic and reason. Man, I thank God I stopped drinking that koolaid years ago.
Obama is a total marooooon! I cannot believe any thinking person would ever vote for this dolt!
ihasurnominashun on August 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Yeah. I hear that it is a very human operation.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Reduce electricity by 15%? Nuke Kaleef-ornya! How much energy do those pigs use out there? Oh, and nuke the Goracle’s house, too. Carbon neutral my ass!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Uhhmmm. You guys become too cynical.
An Obama Presidency will cure you all. He promised that.
Sir Napsalot on August 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM
To reduce energy, locate your nearest dairy farm. Out in the pasture is where you will find how you will heat your home this winter.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
What is when whites screw up? Is it ‘white privilege’ on display? No. It is simple incompetence. Since you cannot extend this simple but fair consideration to Blacks, I will not extend it to you.
Do you blame blacks for every job for which you were passed over? Did a black guy steal your girlfriend? At least if Obama wins, you can spend the rest of your life blaming a black guy for your woeful state.
The Race Card on August 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Tell a lie enough times……tell a lie from a racist and….
jukin on August 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Isn’t Polar Bear fat an alternate energy source?
- The Cat
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Flagrant channel surfing can increase your energy bills by up to 0.0001% and use up battery life by 3% over judicious use of the remote control.
Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM
When are we going to get a story about obama supporter Sarah Palin’s obama love?
SaintOlaf on August 5, 2008 at 2:46 PM
A bad economy would help them elect more Democrats. Therefore, they don’t want a good economy.
Of course, if Obama wins, they’ll be all for a good economy…
tom on August 5, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Yes, Obama advises America to kick out Democrats and elect Republicans like they did in California! When Louisianna was unhappy with the Katrina situation, they looked at their neighboring states with Republican governors and elected their own Republican governor.
Does he even know what he is saying? Obama is admitting that Democrats are the problem and Republicans the solution.
jerseyman on August 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Cow Farts and a Dream baby!
upinak on August 5, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Tru dat, playette!
It is a renewable energy source.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Don’t go too far. We may have a solent green effect on the horizon.
YUCK!
upinak on August 5, 2008 at 3:09 PM
The worst part about this factiod slinging is that the numbers are all over disconnected, it is hard to pin down the errors. But I think I did finally find an egregious one. Here’s Obama:
Per US DOE, here, California’s electrical consumption from 1980 through 2005 grew at an annual rate of 0.9%. If you take it straight, that’s 22.5% in 25 years compared to Obama’s claim of 0% in 30 years. It’s ranking is 30th of the 50 states.
Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 3:12 PM
True, but that’s not the lesson of this speech. This is all about a demonstration of his stupidity. He doesn’t have the wherewithal or want to invest the energy into properly considering what he just said, so he just says it as if he believes it, but he doesn’t apparently even know what he said.
Reduce electrical consumption while switching millions of cars from gasoline to electricity. Riiiiggghhhttt.
Jaibones on August 5, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Funny… just did a quick search for Wind Generator MANUFACTURERS and more than half were CHINESE companies…
Romeo13 on August 5, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Don’t you mean its ranked 30th of the 57 states????
and just how much energy do those other 7 states really use ???
Mojack420 on August 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM
[Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 3:12 PM]
D$mmit, I took it off the wrong chart. California electrical consumption rose by 1.6% from 1980 to 2005. That would make it 47.5% over 25 years and they are ranked 39th. It was the total energy consumption which rose by 0.9%.
Dusty on August 5, 2008 at 3:27 PM
FIFY.
I much prefer the “Logan’s Run” option.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 3:29 PM
The Democrats are against discrimination so much that they’ve lost all ability to discriminate:
Between stupid and reasonable,
Between good and evil,
Between dangerous and safe,
Between sane and insane,
Between taxes and investments,
Between waste and thrift,
Between our money and their money,
…but they still retain the ability to hate everyone who is not just like them!!
landlines on August 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM
You do not understand, mortal!!!
The Obamessiah is exempt from the Second Law of Thermodynamics!! And he is going to get the other Laws of Thermodynamics repealed!!!
landlines on August 5, 2008 at 3:56 PM
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