Beware the … Garbage Police!
posted at 9:50 am on August 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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San Francisco may soon deputize its garbage collectors and have them inspecting refuse before hauling it away. Residents who fail to compost food waste could find themselves fined a thousand dollars and without garbage service, under a new proposal from Mayor Gavin Newsom:
Garbage collectors would inspect San Francisco residents’ trash to make sure pizza crusts aren’t mixed in with chip bags or wine bottles under a proposal by Mayor Gavin Newsom.
And if residents or businesses don’t separate the coffee grounds from the newspapers, they would face fines of up to $1,000 and eventually could have their garbage service stopped.
The plan to require proper sorting of refuse would be the nation’s first mandatory recycling and composting law. It would direct garbage collectors to inspect the trash to make sure it is put into the right blue, black or green bin, according to a draft of the legislation prepared by the city’s Department of the Environment.
The program is designed to limit the amount of food and foliage that goes into the city-contracted landfill in Alameda County, where the refuse takes up costly space and decomposes to form methane, one of the most potent of greenhouse gases. It will also help San Francisco, which city officials say currently diverts 70 percent of its waste from landfills, achieve a goal set by the Board of Supervisors to divert 75 percent by 2010 and have zero waste by 2020.
This stupidity extends to several levels. First, let’s look at the practical implications of such a regulatory regime. Trash collection requires efficient use of vehicles and personnel. If sanitation workers have to stop and inspect every barrel and dumpster for compliance, it will make the entire process much more labor intensive and require an expansion of collection vehicles. Not only would the cost be prohibitive, but the increase in idling vehicles waiting for inspections to end before moving to the next stop would actually make emissions even worse than before.
Next, how does one enforce compliance in multi-tenant dwellings? Apartments and condos usually use communal dumpsters rather than individual barrels, again for efficiency. If the garbage is unsorted, who gets fined — the tenants or the landlords? Neither one could be proven responsible for the misdemeanor in court. If landlords risk fines and suspension of service because of tenant behavior they cannot possibly control, or even trace, then expect property values to take a dive while people sell of their assets in real estate.
Philosophically speaking, this represents a gross intrusion (in more than one sense of the word) of government into private life. Recycling plans work because they’re voluntary; most people don’t mind a simple sorting process involving one bin for refuse and another for recyclables. If they are required to start using three, four, or five bins for sorting their trash upon threat of prosecution, the good will compliance will end and people will stop recycling altogether. And wait until the municipal courts get flooded with the accused looking to clear their good names and avoid the $1,000 fine. Plus, can the garbage collectors even levy those citations without being sworn officers of the law or at least employed by law enforcement?
It’s yet another nutty idea from America’s leading source of them. I’d give it even odds of passage. (via The Corner)
Update: This reminded me of the excellent Penn & Teller Bulls**t! show in which they debunked recycling as beneficial for all but aluminum cans. Here is the most applicable part of that episode to today’s story (not safe for work):
If you haven’t watched the show before, you owe it to yourself to give it a try.
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Who in their right mind would want to live in that fascist city anymore?
TheBigOldDog on August 5, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Who will oversee the Garbage Police?
Looks like a job for – the Garbage Politician!
San Fran Nan, step up and accept this badge of disgrace, I mean honor.
NoDonkey on August 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM
The only thing this will produce is mass emigration from San Francisco.
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM
What do you expect from a city that intimidates, hyper-regulates, & harshly fines restaurants for serving trans-fats, but lets disease-spreading gay bath-houses flourish?
jgapinoy on August 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM
This sounds like a “Monk” episode from 2 seasons ago.
kiakjones on August 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Dry, recycling, and compost. It’s not a difficult concept. Apartment buildings will have separate dumpsters for each – not a mind-dizzying concept. Yes, you have to buy more vehicles for collection, but that’s just the way it is. But to not recycle is retarded. The compost in many cities is sold as it becomes soil to help offset the costs of the system.
Obviously they won’t be checking EVERY household’s garbage, just as they don’t have speed traps on EVERY road.
If you think it’s too difficult for you to separate your garbage, I’m sorry – you’re a moron. Recycling is hardly an intrusion into private life. Gimme a f’ing break!
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM
jgapinoy – nice ignorant homophobic comment. Your gay-bashing friends and family must be so proud of you.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Ed, you’re looking at this all wrong. These are entry level Green Jobs! Prove your merit in the Garbage Gestapo, and you’ll be eligible to join Barack’s civilian national security force!
RushBaby on August 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Not only do I not recycle, but I let it the trash pile rot for a good long while so the methane builds up and harms the environment. Then, after all the methane is released, I top the trash pile off with about two gallons of gasoline and light it. I usually throw some old tires in to make a nice, dramatic black smoke. Heh, I would estimate that one week of my non-compliance should cancel out what you do for an entire lifetime.
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM
When I lived in Virginia, and they first started their recycling program (mandatory) they made us separate brown glass, green glass, clear glass, and plastic. Had to be in paper bags.
This one, however, is even more ridiculous. They’re worried about organic garbage now? What’s the difference if it decomposes in a mulch pile, or a landfill? Same amount of methane going into the air.
I tell ya, of all the things I worry about in reference to government intrusion, it’s the “food police” that angers me the most.
JetBoy on August 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM
That’s not a problem since there are plenty of criminal aliens ready to move in.
Hening on August 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Dave Rywall, am I wrong?
jgapinoy on August 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Dave — Must you always be belligerent?
BigD on August 5, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Man, I really wanted to drink my coffee instead of wear it..good one.
Gavin is really enjoying his little fiefdom out there. I really wish someone in Congress would yank some of their funding over cr*p like this. Let the rich libs fund their little freako Republic;
austinnelly on August 5, 2008 at 10:06 AM
I almost forgot; I drink about 15-20 units of bottle water each day. I just toss that nice plastic on the fire as well. It makes a thick, black smoke.
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Amen. Dave, its not the recycling that bugs people, its the insane enforcement policies.
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:07 AM
No, DRywall, but wasting tax money (read: MY money) picking through garbage cans to make sure I’m a well-behaved libtard is.
CurtZHP on August 5, 2008 at 10:08 AM
TheBigOldDog on August 5, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Fascists?
catmman on August 5, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Doesn’t sound very green to me.
Let’s reduce methane gas at the landfill using additional garbage collection trucks that inject carbon monoxide into the atmosphere during collection of separated garbage intended to reduce air pollution.
I think they call this circular logic. Or just a circle jerk. One of them.
Dave, you can be the ringmaster.
fogw on August 5, 2008 at 10:11 AM
jgapinoy – are you wrong? Your off-topic gay-bashing nonsense? Yeah.
BigD – if you take no offense to gay-bashing, then no wonder you think I’m the belligerent one.
carbon_footprint – By all means, keep your head in the sand. It makes it harder to hear your edgy Ann Landers humor.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:12 AM
As government becomes more powerful the citizen become less powerful!
Politico is covering the Democrats politically driven energy strategy and it isn’t good for Americans!
David
LifeTrek on August 5, 2008 at 10:12 AM
“Apartments and condos usually use communal dumpsters rather than individual barrels, again for efficiency. If the garbage is unsorted, who gets fined — the tenants or the landlords.”
Exactly. I’ve lived in condos and people often place their garbage wherever it’s convenient at the time. Even if it’s only 1 in 100, it would be a violation.
Perhaps San Fran can budget for round the clock watches on dumpsters. I nominate Gavin for the first watch.
NoDonkey on August 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Let’s not forget the need for “Block Captains” assigned to go through the trash and rat out non-compliant neighbors.
highhopes on August 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Notice that Dave didn’t really address the issue at hand: whether it makes sense to create a law that will be so incredibly difficult to enforce.
All I see is a way to get back at your neighbor who keeps letting his dog pee in you yard; plant a few bread crusts and apple cores in his garbage and then call the city.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Condoms in the blue bin. Syringes in the green one. Crack pipes in the orange…
whitetop on August 5, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Ahh, fogw – Pulls wild assumptions out of a part of his body that produces methane and proclaims that the trucks required to collect the separated garbage will cause so much environmental damage it will offset the reusing and recycling of the materials. Talk about a circle jerk of nonsense.
You people need to join the rest of us in 2008.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Keep Oakland Clean – Dump Your Trash in San Francisco.
Wade on August 5, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Dave Rywall, I was not “gay-bashing”. I know that the vast majority of homosexuals don’t go to “disease-spreading gay bath-houses”. I simply made a comparison of San Fransicko’s treatment of politically incorrect restaurants & politically correct gay establishments.
jgapinoy on August 5, 2008 at 10:15 AM
So the city of San Francisco issues the threat to stop trash collection to city residents who don’t comply? What would these residents do with their trash? The “banned” city residents would probably just let it pile up on the street corner. That would punish the whole neighborhood, not just the recalcitrant resident. Has mayor Gavin Newsom even thought this idea through?
capricorn on August 5, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Recycling is hardly an intrusion into private life. Gimme a f’ing break!
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Making it mandatory is. And the wasting of tax dollars on such ridiculous enforcement policies is.
If you don’t understand that, then you’re the moron.
catmman on August 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM
They do this nonsense with trash collection in Britain already, they’re beginning to have issues with people defying the stupid Nanny trash laws, or bad PR from harassing people (particularly old people, like this 96 year old vet, a gunner for the Desert Rats, who was denied trash collection because he put a ketchup bottle in the wrong bin) who have trouble following all of Big Brother’s orders. I know I’ve read stories about a big increase in garbage being dumped in abandoned lots as well, but my Google-fu is failing me.
doubleplusundead on August 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Pointing out that prevalence of STDs are higher in gay communities =/= gay bashing.
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Now of course the illegals will not have to comply. They’ll just continue to dump their garbage in the street.
Zaire67 on August 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I think it is time to name a dump after Mayor Gavin Newsom.
kh6zv9 on August 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Bishop – No. You people need to do 37 seconds of research about similar programs implemented in cities around the world before you take a giant ignorant dump on this program. You know nothing about the costs, nothing about the benefits, nothing about the minimal effort to participate, but your shriek and complain anyways. So typical.
You equate having to put a Coke bottle in a blue bin with a violation of your civil rights. How ridiculous.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Ah, thank you!
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM
I’ve been busted by the garbage police. Here in Suffolk, NY they drive around in little cars ahead of the garbage truck and inspect your stuff. About two years ago I had a new washer delivered. The delivery men placed the cardboard container at the end of my driveway for paper product pick up. Unfortunately, they did that one day early of the pick up which happened to be regular garbage pick up day. I received a very nasty letter telling me I was now “on the list” of offenders and would be fined $500 if I was caught again.
What I found so incredibly stupid about the whole thing is that the garbage men took the cardboard when they had to know that paper day was the very next day. It is the same guys in the same truck that pick up regular garbage one day, bottles and cans another, and paper on yet another day.
Actually, when we first moved here I took a “garbage lesson” over the phone, the system was so complicated. It has become even more so over the past few years as new restictions have been placed on putting brush or yard waste out. Can only do that now on approved days…
Babs on August 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM
You people need to join the rest of us in 2008.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Ahhh, Collectivism….
catmman on August 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM
But isn’t picking through someone else’s trash an invasion of privacy? Don’t the police even need a warrant to do that?
JetBoy on August 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Why I left San Francisco last year and have never looked back – Part 800.
Now if Newsom can mandate that San Francisco stop smelling of urine and fecal matter and can stop the people from running through the streets naked as a jay bird, we’ll be in business.
mjk on August 5, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Who are “you people” and who are “the rest of us?”
You sound like Ted Kaczynski or something.
BigD on August 5, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Hmmm. I double checked, just to see if I was as stupid as you are, but I couldn’t find anywhere in my comment where I said any such thing.
You lose again.
fogw on August 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Wow I wish I could get all of you on a panel and have you share your thoughts on recycling to a giant audience comprised to people from the rest of the industrialized world who have evolved and do it as second nature, just so I could hear the gales of laughter from them. Again, you need to join the rest of us in 2008.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Gavin Newsom seems completely determined to turn San Francisco into the very last place anyone on the planet would want to live in. He has turned the city into not just a cesspool of liberalism run wild, he has made San Francisco something of an international laughingstock, and yet the guy is allowed to keep coming up with dumb idea after dumb idea and no one out there calls him on it.
Normally, I would just laugh at an idiot like this, and leave it at that, but since he turned San Francisco into a sanctuary city, it has resulted in the shooting deaths of a father and his two sons at the hands of a violently dangerous and KNOWN illegal alien.
At that point, Newsom stepped over the line from being just another moron to being a dangerous moron who has misued the power of his office to the place where now innocent blood has been shed.
The only thing I am hoping for right now is that the wife and mother of that father and two sons sues Newsom into poverty.
Maybe then the people out there will see this guy for who and what he really is and throw his rear out of office.
But based on the way I am seeing the thinking, or in this case, the lack of thinking out there, I doubt that will happen.
pilamaye on August 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM
“Ridiculous” is Rywall’s fallback word for anything he doesn’t like.
BigD on August 5, 2008 at 10:22 AM
A 96 year old war hero in Britain denied garbage collection for two weeks because he put a ketchup bottle in the green bin instead of the blue bin. That might not be a civil rights violation, but it’s pretty f*cking vile.
doubleplusundead on August 5, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Again, nobody is complaining about voluntary recycling, you condescending dolt.
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM
As was mentioned in the piece, how do they plan on enforcing the law at multi-tenant dwellings with common trash bins? You can’t enforce a law here and not there when the law is supposed to apply evenly to all.
It’s a stupid idea, you just can’t admit it.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM
How cute, it is insinuating that we is all dumb and needs to gets evolution. Typical lib.
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I have an idea. If the government puts a camera in everyone’s house to monitor whether they sort their garbage properly and correct them on the spot if they don’t, then they won’t need to have extra vehicles and garbage collectors.
BigD on August 5, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Now…now…now…
We must NEVER question or admonish the purely unselfish, all knowing, morally righteous indignation of our more tolerant liberal/progresseive/socialist members of this site.
It just feeds their already overly inflated egos.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 5, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Join? While I’d certainly visit you in the psychiatric ward, I have no desire to join you.
Recycling is not an intrusion. Having some pick through your garbage is. The fact that you cannot-or will not- see the difference is a problem.
Physics Geek on August 5, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Its nanny-state laws like this that have given the British government over 1000 ways to enter the homes of their citizens. That’s not so ridiculous to me, but then “civil rights” are an imaginary term that has no meaning in GB.
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Bishop – the multi-unit dwellings get MULITPLE BINS. How can you possibly not understand this simple concept??????
carbon_footprint – if you’s don’t understand the simple concept of recycling and its benefits, then sorry, you IS dumb.
Dave Rywall on August 5, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Why am I not surprised that Drywall actually likes this idea?
MarkTheGreat on August 5, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Errr how about how recycling paper creates more polution than virgin paper; with the enzymes, the bleaching, etc.? Don’t even get me started on plastics.
- The Cat
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Wow I wish I could get all of you on a panel and have you share your thoughts on recycling to a giant audience comprised to people from the rest of the industrialized world who have evolved and do it as second nature
So I guess the non-industrialized world hasn’t evolved yet? If I were an Obamanation, I might find that bigoted.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM
P.S. I pay them to take my garbage away. They work for me. If they want it separated they can do it.
MirCat on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM
But Dave, it just takes so much time to recycle and it is so much funner to watch it burn.
carbon_footprint on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM
What the heck are the people of San Francisco thinking?
Sheesh.
I have a recycle bin in my classroom and do not let students put paper into it. Recycling paper is very bad for the environment, and I’m against it.
Thank God I do not live in San Francisco–for many many reasons. The 100 miles between here and there could be another universe.
When my family and I visited San Francisco over the weekend for a wedding we figured the 5 of us quadrupled the number of sane people within the city limits.
Bob's Kid on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM
We used to live in a city that required using multiple bins. 1- trash. 2-glass.3-plastic. 4-paper. The City threatened fining people that didn’t sort trash. After spending our time sorting, we watched the driver to the trash truck dump the glass, plastic, paper into the same bin in the truck. Feeling conned and stupid, we stopped wasting time sorting, making it easier for the driver to do his job.
Exit question: Will SF go the same way or will it become an “Empire” operation focusing on authority over others rather than sane waste management?
Perfesser on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Guys, this is incredible. I’ve never seen anyone so dense before. Its like we give him reasons, and he says, “Hah. You’re so ridiculous. What’s wrong with recycling? How ridiculous.”
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Don’t worry! I work in San Francisco. I urge people who live here to just throw their trash in the street. The homeless can sort it and take it to the recycling center for cash to buy crack. Everyone wins!
sdillard on August 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM
The garbage strike one? That was hilarious! Love Monk. BTW, IIRC that episode’s crime involved corruption by the mayor. Hmmmmmm…. :)
LOL good one. Great handle too. hahahaha
inviolet on August 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Bishop – the multi-unit dwellings get MULITPLE BINS. How can you possibly not understand this simple concept??????
Ok, concentrate now. Get into a yoga position, put on some Yanni and concentrate.
I said “enforcing” as in who will be punished if food waste or plastic bottles are found in the wrong bin? Thirty apartments in a building with common bins and you find those bins filled with the wrong items…who gets in trouble?
How can you possibly not understand this simple concept??????
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Gavin Newsome the spokes”person” of the militant homosexual agenda needs to be impeached for his crimes against the voters of california.
He wants to run for governor of california…he will be in for a big surprise when he finds out he only has the support of the other militant homosexuals…a whopping .005% of the population.
SaintOlaf on August 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM
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Nope. Once it gets to the curb, anyone can go through it.
thekingtut on August 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM
SaintOlaf versus DRywall. Stand back, everyone.
BigD on August 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM
You know Dave, go screw yourself.
My family is probably the most environmentally concious household in the neighborhood. We compost 95% of our yard waste, use no chemicals on our property and make a huge effort to comply with all the myriad regulations for waste pick up. I even hang the laundry on the line to lower our “carbon footprint” (electricity bill)
I would say that my experience personifies “recycling gone amuck.”
We have little people driving around in little cars inspecting our trash. That is gov’t intrusion. My family has recycled for decades. This is the ignorance of Nanny gov’t gone crazy.
Babs on August 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I’m sorry. Have you BEEN to San Francisco? Where in God’s name are they going to put these MULTIPLE BINS? Are people expected to keep them inside their apartments? It costs well over $2000 for a 600 foot studio in San Francisco. I’m just curious in such spacious places where multiple bins for recycling paper, plastic, soda bottles, glass bottles, etc are supposed to go. Who is going to be paying for all of these extra bins? Who is going to be paying for all these extra trucks? Shouldn’t the cops be enforcing the more important laws, like oh, say, murder, rape, defecating on public streets (happens a lot in San Fran)? Do you really want cops making sure the 70 year-old Grandma in Chinatown is properly disposing of her glass bottles?
Just wondering.
mjk on August 5, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Interesting that Drywall won’t give a response to the abuses of power going on in the UK…
doubleplusundead on August 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Nope. Once it gets to the curb, anyone can go through it.
thekingtut on August 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM
And there is the problem.
“Ma’am, we found that you had pizza crusts in your garbage, here’s your ticket”.
“Sorry officer but I saw a couple of hoodlums digging through it last night, they must have thrown those crusts in there. See you in court”.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM
That’s not the only source of methane emanating from San Fran-sicko.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM
And don’t forget how much worse this makes the jobs of the garbage collectors, which are pretty awful already. They’re supposed to dig around in your garbage and not just remove it?
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM
“Thank you sir may I have another…”
-Rywall Chant-
catmman on August 5, 2008 at 10:39 AM
But it will require more city workers, thus creating even more ready-made votes dependent on patronage from the various supervisors and the mayor. And, if San Francisco’s Muni bus system is any example, no one will be able to force these new workers to do any work, anyway.
But, honestly, I have to feel sorry for garbagemen forced to dig through the trash in areas like Castro. Eww. And is the city prepared for the lawsuit to follow some garbage collector jabbing himself on a needle tossed in the can by a (environmentally conscious) junkie?
No worries, however. Mayor Newsom will soon be obsessed with his quest to be governor (God help us), and San Francisco will be handed to some Far Left nut from the Board of Supervisors. (God help the city.)
Sigh. My favorite city in California is run (and being run into the ground) by total wackos. I weep.
irishspy on August 5, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I like to recycle; sorting my garbage fits into my semi-OCD organizing tendancies. But down here in Va Beach, we’re just supposed to dump everything into a giant blue trash can, no sorting, which is picked up every two weeks. I have a sneaking suspician the blue can contents end up in roughly the same place as the black can. We’re probably the only household that ever fills up our recycling trash can well before the two-week pick-up, at least, we’re the only ones that don’t use it as a secondary black trash can. I do believe, though, that the day they start enforcing what you actually put in the cans is the day my neighbors stop what little recycling they actually do.
If municipalities actually want people to start recycling and to participate voluntarily, this is not the way to go. Bring back the can recycling centers (where you got money for your cans, I used to buy gas with that money), organize community drives to see who can recycle the most in one week (maybe with donated prizes or a discount on trash pickup, something). People need to be educated that it’s not a political thing to recycle, it’s a responsible thing to do. Having the garbage police knock on your door because you didn’t sort properly is a waste of time, money, resources, and smacks of fascism.
Anna on August 5, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Europe has been fining improper recyclers for a long time. Fines in the UK are from $200 to $2,000. They use “refuse snoopers” to check for improper recycling. (1) Australia uses spy cameras in their garbage trucks. (2) I know. Europe and Australia are fascist, as Mr. Morrissey says:
I don’t understand how this is any different than fining someone for a parking violation. Is the US fascist because we have parking cops?
Maybe parking meters would work if they were voluntary and there were no parking cops. I doubt it, though. I think it works better with the fines. It works with recycling, too. Recycling went up 41% in Montreal after fining went into effect. (3) London hit their recycling target after fining. (4)
1)See:
The Evening Standard (London)
September 12, 2007 Wednesday
Recycle or face a £100 fine as council ’snoops’ enforce rules
BYLINE: JONATHAN PRYNN
2) The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, Australia)
November 1, 1999, Monday
Spying on our recycled rubbish
BYLINE: MARK SKELSEY
3)The Gazette (Montreal, Quebec)
September 23, 2000
Fear of fines gets citizens recycling: Mayor boasts of 41-per-cent jump in collection
BYLINE: MICHAEL MAINVILLE
4) The Guardian (London) – Final Edition
January 19, 2005
Recycling hits 17% national target
BYLINE: Paul Brown, Environment correspondent
dave742 on August 5, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Fixed it for you.
dominigan on August 5, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Certainly not.
And the garbage police can make helpful suggestions, such as you’re eating too much pizza, drink too much wine, but are doing well with your fruit intake.
As for all those discarded condoms? Well done.
NoDonkey on August 5, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Yah, wouldn’t that be fun, pawing around used condoms, dirty diapers and toenail shavings just to pull out that evil peach core.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:41 AM
In drywall’s world, gay bath houses are not a known vector for numerous diseases. Anyone saying otherwise is immediately identified as a homophobe and punished accordingly.
MarkTheGreat on August 5, 2008 at 10:42 AM
THIS IS A VIOLATION OF SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! It’s obvious that Gaia worshipers are pushing their relivion unto the state. It even includes the dhimmi tax.
shick on August 5, 2008 at 10:43 AM
“You vill separate seh gahbage or ve vill send you to re-education camp for you to become environmentally friendly. Papers? Do you have seh papers? Are sey in seh blue bin? Ve vill give you a varning sis time, but not next! Heil Newsom!”
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 5, 2008 at 10:43 AM
relivion=religion
shick on August 5, 2008 at 10:43 AM
So, if I wish to recycle the teenage drug dealing illegal aliens I am harboring, do they go in the blue, red or green bin?
rbb on August 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I think it works better with the fines. It works with recycling, too. Recycling went up 41% in Montreal after fining went into effect. (3) London hit their recycling target after fining. (4)
And I hear China has had great success with it’s ‘one child’ policy by “fining” offenders with forced abortions.
Why stop at recycling, fine everything.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM
The police don’t need a warrant to go through your trash.
Every TV lawyer knows that.
MarkTheGreat on August 5, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Dave, still waiting for you to explain how common trash bins will be regulated.
Bishop on August 5, 2008 at 10:46 AM
That’s true. I’ve seen Briscoe and Green do it hundreds of times.
BigD on August 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Better grab a nice, good book, you’ll be waiting for a while.
I recommend Liberal Fascism – it goes nicely with the subject matter. ; )
Anna on August 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM
If I lived in this city I would first pull my head out of my ass and then I would move to a part of the world that still believed in freedom…
sabbott on August 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Here here! We need to start fining straight people who don’t go to enough counseling sessions to make sure they aren’t gay, lest they be closeted, which counts as a hate crime against yourself. Freedom is completely overrated if you ask me.
jimmy the notable on August 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM
I live in a town that doesn’t do recycling. We have plain ol’ trash cans only. We were in an office at the local Air Force Base and my daughter saw a recycling bin. Having only seen them on TV, she said “Look, a real live recycling bin!” I cracked up but I’m sure someone within ear shot was horrified.
MamaAJ on August 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Silly. He doesn’t have to explain. He can just play j’accuse.
inviolet on August 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM
This isn’t a problem to deal with.
Just get a big box of those 3 mil contractor garbage bags. Then fill them with all your crap, put your ninja outfit on go out at midnight to the nearest dumpster and toss the whole bag in.
If that doesn’t work, put a rock in the bottom of the bag and toss it in the Bay.
BacaDog on August 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Zaire67 on August 5, 2008 at 10:51 AM
My thoughts exactly. But despite this minor oversight, Ed provides a superb analysis of the multi-leveled stupidity of the Green Shirts :)
Buy Danish on August 5, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Well, I learn something new every day. Came up with this from the NY Times, from 1988:
I guess pizza crust = criminal activity.
JetBoy on August 5, 2008 at 10:51 AM
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