It’s official: Obama runs from town-hall debates
posted at 10:00 am on August 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama’s campaign made its distaste for free-style debates more or less official yesterday in their letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates. Team Obama only will agree to three debates, which has been the tradition through the last several presidential cycles, and all of them in the standard moderated format. He will not accept McCain’s challenge to meet him in a format where voters can ask the questions:
Obama’s campaign released a letter this afternoon from campaign manager David Plouffe to the Commission on Presidential Debates only agreeing to the traditional three sanctioned fall debates and single vice presidential forum.
“Due to the late date of the two parties’ nominating conventions, and the relatively short period between the end of the conventions and the first proposed debate, it is likely that the four commission debates will be the sole series of debates in the fall campaign,” Plouffe writes.
Not said is whether Obama is any longer considering meeting McCain for any town hall meetings outside the Commission’s debates. After initial indications in June that some would take place, it appears increasingly unlikely that the two candidates will meet on stage before the first debate at Ole Miss in September. McCain wanted to do one per week; Obama’s campaign responded by proposing one town hall on July Fourth and a Lincoln-Douglas-style appearance in August. McCain’s campaign rejected this counter-offer and discussions have since ceased as the campaign has increasingly turned negative.
The McCain campaign responded with a dose of sarcasm:
“We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama’s magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he’ll reconsider.”
This news will surprise no one that has followed the number of gaffes Obama makes when speaking off the cuff. When the press finally got embarrassed by their fawning attitude and asked him tough questions in the Pennsylvania debate, Obama folded like a cheap suit against Hillary — and immediately stopped appearing in debates. He has provided an almost endless series of gaffes when speaking extemporaneously, and obviously wants no part of McCain in this format.
Either way, McCain can use this response to his advantage. He can continue appearing in town-hall forums and openly question why Obama lacks the courage to join him. In the traditional presidential debates, McCain can remind the national audience that Obama needed to hide behind the skirts of the media moderators rather than face voter questions directly. It’s a bonus for McCain in that sense, although he would have preferred getting Obama into his preferred format and watching him get exposed for the inexperienced naïf that Obama clearly is.
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He is going to change us. So, why should he waste time talking to our pre-change personas.
snaggletoothie on August 3, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Maybe Barack can take his ball and go have his own town hall meetings in Europe or San Francisco.
forest on August 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Lightworkers are not subject to the same rules as mere mortals. Your insubordination to His Lightness has been recorded for a future Day of Reckoning, Ed.
wccawa on August 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM
For a nice twenty minutes of entertainment, I give you:
Obama’s gaffes–
http://obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/
jgapinoy on August 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Lightworker!Lightweight!
hillbillyjim on August 3, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Come on, I was hoping for a nice lightsaber battle between Jar-Jar and Yoda!
Sekhmet on August 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM
You do have to give the Obamessiah (or at least his handlers) credit for good tactical acumen. His team is no doubt well aware that poor debate performances helped sink McGovern in 1972, Ford in ‘76, Mondale in ‘84, AlGore From The Planet Eco in 2000, and Kerry in ‘04. Like the song I’m listening to right now says, they “Won’t Get Fooled Again”.
Of course, like the old British Army saying goes, it doesn’t matter how many battles you can win or avoid if you end up losing the war. Tactical brilliance (or at least lack of idiocy) doesn’t always translate into strategic success. And from what I’ve seen so far, my unbiased opinion is that the DNC is trying to fight a tactical campaign as well as they can because they know that the Anointed One is a losing proposition strategically.
In future, I suspect that their belief that the Obameister was more “electable” than Hillary will be seen as one of two colossal blunders they made this year.
The other being that some of them actually believed that either one of them was electable.
clear ether
eon
eon on August 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM
McCain’s campaign should start making chicken sounds:
Bak-bak-bak-BARACK!!
mikeyboss on August 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Cluck…cluck…cluck…Ba Gaaaaaccckkk!
Continues pecking on the ground.
1GooDDaDDy on August 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM
What happened to “Any time, any place”, eh Obama?
hillbillyjim on August 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Wow! I was totally caught of guard by that. Never in a million years did I think that…..
Oh wait, yeah I did.
ej_pez on August 3, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Great minds think alike…and on Sunday morning too.
1GooDDaDDy on August 3, 2008 at 10:18 AM
(high-five)
mikeyboss on August 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM
“anywhere, anytime”
Except at town hall meetings.
forest on August 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM
McCain’s campaign might want to dial back the snarky meter a bit. A little of that goes a long way, and too much can cause a backlash.
AZCoyote on August 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Agreed. Just when “the high road” is starting to pay dividends is not the time for a detour.
A matter of degree and timing, as ever.
hillbillyjim on August 3, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Barry really is truly dreadful when speaking without help.
Makes one wonder why the coddling of him when the entire media and it’s leech-like bloggers decided Bush’s ability to speak WAS SOOO SOOO IMPORTANT VERY IMPORTANT AND REQUIRED ACTION ALERTS!!!
Where are the questions about Barry’s GRAVITAS???
This election is such a joke. This guy is totally unfit.
benrand on August 3, 2008 at 10:27 AM
I think we can look forward to the Chosen One’s handlers insuring that he only speaks from a teleprompter in future. Aside from any scheduled and structured ‘debates’, everything else will be labeled a “distraction”.
GarandFan on August 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Obama is the most scared politician I’ve seen. Well…all liberals are. Anyway, Lindsey Graham is on Fox News Sunday and he is pissed at Obama’s lack of “getting his hands dirty.” I never seen him so annoyed.
jencab on August 3, 2008 at 10:29 AM
But .. but, he’s black and speaks so eloquently! [/sarc]
To date he refused to debate on Fox news, refused to debate Hilary anymore, and now is running from questioning from We The People. This is supposed to be presidential? Maybe it is if you are drunk out of your mind on the kool-aid.
DannoJyd on August 3, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Mccain should insist the first debate be at Fox News and be on Foreign Policy or drilling OCS. That way Obama cant back out on FNC but go for a MSNBC debate.
clover_dave on August 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM
That’s not the change I was hoping for.
Dusty on August 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Jesus did town hall meetings, AND he took questions from hostile skeptics. Maybe this new guy isn’t really the Messiah after all.
Mojave Mark on August 3, 2008 at 10:34 AM
I’d love to have the opportunity to ask Obama a question at a town hall style debate!
Me: “Senator Obama, for twelve years you taught at the University of Chicago, one of the finest institutions of secondary education in the world. That school was founded in the 1890s thanks to an extremely generous act of philanthropy by John D. Rockefeller, one of the richest men in America at the time. If you had been president back then and had instituted your preferred policies of taxation on the wealthy, do you think Rockefeller would have been as anxious to give away so much money to found the very school that gave you paychecks for a dozen years?”
radjah shelduck on August 3, 2008 at 10:36 AM
McCain should host each Town Hall with an empty chair on stage for the “Guy Who Didn’t Show Up.”
Hannibal Smith on August 3, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Right, and he was only 12 or 13 when he started.
Good point.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Note to handlers: We must control him at all times.
mimi1220 on August 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
You can bet the farm that The Messiah WILL take questions from audience members: of “The View” and “Oprah”. Fainting in the audience will be allowed, and encouraged.
Marcus on August 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
To better understand Obama you need to read this. Then you can see how taking the Race Card away from Obama will cripple his campaign.
Some things never change.
DannoJyd on August 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Very nice!
mikeyboss on August 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Uh, guys?
After listening to The One in that commercial, my arthritis disappeared and my allergies have vanished.
Just sayin’…
wccawa on August 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM
New Obama logo.
wise_man on August 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
I`m surprised Obama agreed to all three debates. He could still stumble like he did in Pensylvania.
I can`t wait. :)
ThePrez on August 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Excellent. I hope his people have figured out that smarties hang out at HotAir.
mikeyboss on August 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM
And the liberals tried to paint GHWB, a guy who was a friggin WAR HERO, as some big pussified wimp.
Barry is a callow coward. The liberals will have to live with that fact.
The late great Celtics announcer Johnny Most would call Barry a yellow gutless coward.
Whoops, RACIST ACTION ALERT!
benrand on August 3, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Lovin the new seal. :) Plus, everyone has some great ideas for the debate format. I hope Barawwk is considering them.
becki51758 on August 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Great idea, but I would add to it by putting an empty suit on display too.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM
This is actually better for McCain–Obama can continue his self-imposed slide in the polls, on his own dime. He’s his own worst enemy.
PattyJ on August 3, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Which inspires another idea: Haunt all of Barry’s campaign appearances with someone dressed up in a chicken outfit.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM
In controlled debate format, Obama is counting on softball questions from moderators from the Messiah-enabling media, who know the acceptable script.
onlineanalyst on August 3, 2008 at 11:04 AM
<blockquote>Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 11:00 AMWell, that would be ironic.
wise_man on August 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM
It reads exactly like the “Plot line” from the “Manchurian Candidate”.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 3, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Fraidy cat!!! Fraidy cat!!!
jeanie on August 3, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Why should he go to these debates?
They are nothing but distractions.
Give him a format where he can discuss the REAL ISSUES…like how the racist republicans won’t vote for him, simply because he is a president who doesn’t look like all the other RACIST,SLAVE OWNING presidents on our currency.
SaintOlaf on August 3, 2008 at 11:16 AM
You guys might be right. The snark about the media and cult worship may have run it’s course. Now it’s time to start tying him to the Pelosi-led Democrat majority in Congress and her big chicken-out of the drilling vote.
forest on August 3, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Thank goodness someone mentioned Comrade Pelosi!! I was worried that the rebellion had gotten lost in the shuffle.
jeanie on August 3, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Zowie. Speaking of Messiah-enabling media, does Michael Moore think Barry is the Messiah? I ask because look at this adoring story about the savior of mankind which I found at Moore’s website:
Read the whole thing, as it illustrates Obama the Lightworker in a nutshell (and shows how incredibly stupid and gullible his supporters are, but I digress).
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 11:23 AM
I like the empty chair … but only if McCain invites Obama to join him at every one of his Town Halls. It’s a gimmick, but I think it would resonate.
Now, if Obama was smart, he’d issue his own invitation … oh, the scenarios!
njcommuter on August 3, 2008 at 11:32 AM
This guy is a joke, anyone who votes for him will be the same.
TroubledMonkey on August 3, 2008 at 11:32 AM
I bet Obama will only do debates, if he has the questions before hand and can do little mini-speeches in response. I wonder what he thinks he is going to do when he gets this job and has to do press conferences, and make decisions and appointments and policy and all that? Who will protect him then?
Terrye on August 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM
The emperor is banking on the media’s ability to clothe him.
Connie on August 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM
He’s also lying his ass off with his can’t do town halls because of scheduling conflicts, since he’s been doing town halls already.
The Messiah just won’t do them with McCain where the audience won’t all be dumbed-down acolytes who fall to their knees at every uh, um, ah and promise to save the world by seizing windfall profits.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM
FOXNews just announced that they will be doing a longer story on Fridays “Repubs. Rebellion” at the top of the hour.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Obama’s reticence to participate in townhall meetings with McCain is the best possible scenario for McCain. Politically speaking Obama is ‘taking the 5th’ so to speak. Any time someone takes the 5th in court proceedings everyone automatically assumes they are guilty of something. Here Obama is now assumed to be officially scared to participate. McCain gets all the positives from that without having to actually beat his opponent down . . . which can sometimes take unexpected directions and get mixed results.
JonPrichard on August 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Why is anyone suprised by this? Obama works best from a script. A scripted debate, with a couple moderatators asking softball questions [you know, the "debates" we've been subjected to for the last several election cycles] is a format Obama can control or at least minimize gaffes.
An open Townhall format leaves him open to those same gaffes. But, a townhall fformat can also enable Obama to backtrack later, like he has been doing, with spin and clarifying commentary from his campaign staff, as well.
What is really needed is something along the Newt Gingrich model…weekly Sunday night debates, each weekend running up to the election, starting right after the conventions are over. On the first night the subject would be…US policy towards the Middle East, the next, solutions to the energy problem, the next, economic development in the US, the next, social security and government assistance programs, and so on and so forth. In true debate format. Each candidate staking their turf, stating their position at the beginning, each candidate speaking for 30 minutes or 20 or so, on their key points, then rebuttals, and then a summation. No sound bites. No quick witty answers designed to distract from the main points or to deflect the question, and certainly no more of the Jeopardy format we’ve been subject to for so long. “I’ll take jihad for $200, Alex,” is not what we need to understand the cnadidates and their ideas.
So, of course, Obama would not be likely to allow himself to be part of this either. He’d have to put out his ideas and his rationale, for the record…for the record…and this is something he has studiously avoided for most of his life since his Ivy League days.
coldwarrior on August 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Guys..check this Obama video, it makes the hair on your arms stand.
http://www.eyeblast.tv:80/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036
malkinmania on August 3, 2008 at 12:06 PM
To paraphrase a line often used by diplomats, that is not helpful.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Wait wait wait, did I miss something here? Why does Obama call the shots? Home field advantage? I think the McCain camp should demand that at least one of these meetings be a townhall format. We are going to get stuck with this rookie, spoiled brat because no one has the guts to say no to him. One townhall meeting with a guy, who off teleprompter, makes W sound like he is in charge of the potato salad at the Mensa picnic this year, is worth a ton of expensive campaign ads. Come on, John, don’t roll over on this.
Cindy Munford on August 3, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Unfit for Command—Part Deux
The saga of the Democrat Party continues in this 2008 version of a selection process that has once again failed to produce a candidate worthy of an electorate that hungers for the kind of leadership that is anything other than empty promises based on reinforced entitlements and a re-distribution of wealth philosophy. Obama’s banter of “give me your tired, poor, and destitute and I’ll provide a government program to relieve your pain” is nothing short of the same tactics the left has attempted going back to Lyndon Johnson. His recent world celebrity tour was nothing short of an embarrassment by kow-towing to other world leaders with his “we are the world” conception based on his willing appeasement and virtual apology for this nation’s success in putting world terrorism in check. It’s quite understandable that the man could not face our brave comrades in a foreign hospital with the knowledge that he has turned his back on their heroic efforts time and again.
On the national economic front, Obama has (in the Clinton tradition of governing by polls) once again shifted his position on offshore drilling just enough to appease the “undecided’s” knowing full well that the environmental lobby will tie up the much needed exploration with lawsuits well into the next decade, (think spotted owl). Many of Obama’s plans to double the size of government are explained on his own website: A perfect example is his plan to create a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank LINK to “to expand and enhance, not supplant, existing federal transportation investments”. In the guise of “change”, taking an already complex government bureaucracy and adding another will simply put more of our tax dollars into the hands of the very politicians the electorate has despised. Bowing to his socialist left constituency, Obama’s plans to re-invent government is nothing short of a re-distribution of wealth philosophy that will destroy the business structure and free market capitalism that has provided this nation with a tradition of success that has rivaled the world.
From McGovern, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry, the Democrat Party has once again provided the electorate with a candidate that is not only dangerous to our economic and national security future, they’ve simply chosen “ONE” who is unfit for command.
Rovin on August 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Cindy Munford on August 3, 2008 at 12:26 PM –
“…a guy, who off teleprompter, makes W sound like he is in charge of the potato salad at the Mensa picnic this year…”
LOL Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are. That’s funny!
coldwarrior on August 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM
B. HUSSEIN ain’t no fool… You don’t bring a knife to a gun fight…
pueblo1032 on August 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM
I will be interested to see who’s chosen for the panels of questioners. I hope the McCain campaign holds firm and doesn’t let them be loaded up with MSM.
Wethal on August 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM
That’s all well and good, but townhall style debates just don’t help Michelle’s children.
Vic on August 3, 2008 at 12:57 PM
I will be interested to see who’s chosen for the panels of questioners. I hope the McCain campaign holds firm and doesn’t let them be loaded up with MSM.
Wethal on August 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Which is why the current accepted format of “debates” is just plain dumb. Moderators? We don’t need no stinkin’ moderators. Which is why I’d love to see the Newt Gingrich model utilized.
coldwarrior on August 3, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Yeah – what Hannibal and Buy Danish said…
Set up an empty suit behind a vacant podium equipped with an LED screen that flashes “PRESENT” when it is time for the empty suit to respond.
innominatus on August 3, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Let me take a wild guess The obamamessiah also wants all the debates moderated by Chris Mathew and he wants to hold them in Europe too right.
anyplace anytime bull****.
Mojack420 on August 3, 2008 at 12:59 PM
The Commission on Presidential Debates. Right. How many real conservatives or even republicans are on the commission? mccain needs to start hammering barry on this now, even set up appearances in the same cities on the same day as barry to show what a bs excuse this is.
peacenprosperity on August 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Talk about an example of big government! Why is a commission on presidential debates even needed? So the demofascists can control the debate and tighten the noose on America? Two guys running for president can’t organize a few appearances together without help from a commission? Hello ministry of truth.
peacenprosperity on August 3, 2008 at 1:06 PM
My thought, too. And everytime McCain holds a townhall meeting, he should say, “Well folks, Obama was invited to this, but he wimped out.”
Connie on August 3, 2008 at 1:10 PM
anywhere, anytime, ready to duel? While we’re doing trademark infringment of recorded artists, how about Queen singing “Liar, LIAR!” in a campaign commercial? I would love it.
JustTruth101 on August 3, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I am off in search of a way to contact this Commission on Presidential Debates, this is ridiculous. And what is even dumber is that I don’t even like John McCain. Darn it I could just spit nails.
Cindy Munford on August 3, 2008 at 1:21 PM
The prospect of people coming up to the podium to ask the empty suit a question only to get a response of “present” would be absolutely hilarious.
They may want to add a booming voice that sounds like God speaking from the heavens when the present sign flashes too.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Oh, and add a little thunder and lightning sound effects.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 1:25 PM –
For a very very funny mental picture of this God speaking from the heaven’s, find one of Bill Cosby’s earliest albums where he did his Noah’s Ark sketch…
coldwarrior on August 3, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Depends. How fast can a man run in a chicken costume if he is being chased by a mob?
entagor on August 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM
B.O. is a coward. Pure and simple.
pilamaye on August 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM
vooba-vooba-vooba———DING!
Rovin on August 3, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Good point. Too bad our side doesn’t have guys like these to provide security.
Buy Danish on August 3, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I still don’t get how the Left can call Bush dumb for the way he speaks, when Obama is 10 times worse at speaking.
Tim Burton on August 3, 2008 at 3:08 PM
That was when he wasn’t even presumtive.
Now, he’s presumptuous.
Entelechy on August 3, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Baraaak, Baraaaak, Baraaaak! Methinks I hear the sound of a chicken. And here I thought it was just a funny name.
duggersd on August 3, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Oh wow. Me likey.
- The Cat
P.S. Oh I get Obama’s change now. He wants to change everything back to the way it was years ago. Old debate styles, Communism growing abroad, high gas prices. What’s next; hostages?
MirCat on August 3, 2008 at 8:54 PM
What’s next; hostages?
If Obama gets elected, we ALL are going to be hostages.
coldwarrior on August 3, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Chickensh*t!!!!! This clown is gonna lose bad in Nov. We…the American people, are way too smart to elect this empty suit fraud.
Winebabe on August 3, 2008 at 10:30 PM
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