Rush: Malaise redux

posted at 2:40 pm on July 31, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

You know, Rush Limbaugh celebrates his 20th anniversary in syndication this week, an amazing accomplishment in any entertainment medium but especially so in radio.  Why has he succeeded so completely?  Perhaps because he can connect the dots, and the dottiness, as he does with Barack Obama’s energy policy as explained yesterday.  Take a listen to Rush’s deconstruction:

LIMBAUGH: This is Obama yesterday at a campaign event in Springfield, Missouri:

OBAMA: All the oil they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups, you could actually save just as much.

LIMBAUGH: This is unbelievable! My friends, this is laughable of course, but it’s stupid! It is stupid! How many of you remember the seventies? When we had these shortages, all through the Jimmy Carter years and we have all these tips, all these tips on how to save gasoline? Avoid jackrabbit starts, keep your tires properly inflated, there’s a list of about ten or twelve these things. I said if I follow each one of these things I’ll have to stop the car every five miles, siphon some fuel out, for all the fuel I’m going to be saving.

This is ridiculous. This is a presidential candidate and he’s talking about keeping your tires inflated and getting regular tune-ups and that would save as much oil as drilling would produce. And this guy is the Democrat presidential nominee. Who has filled his head with this stuff?

This is “malaise” redux.  Rush has been on the air twenty years, but the Democrats seem determined to recycle their policies from thirty years ago.  Revisit with me the infamous Carter speech from April 1977:

The energy crisis has not yet overwhelmed us, but it will if we do not act quickly. It’s a problem that we will not be able to solve in the next few years, and it’s likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century.

We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and our grandchildren. We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now we can control our future instead of letting the future control us. …

Many of these proposals will be unpopular. Some will cause you to put up with inconveniences and to make sacrifices. The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.

Our decision about energy will test the character of the American people and the ability of the President and the Congress to govern this Nation. This difficult effort will be the “moral equivalent of war,” except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not to destroy.

The absurdity here is that while Carter complained about declining production, it was American policies that forced that decline — just as it does today. Ronald Reagan relaxed restrictions and tax penalties on production, and the energy crisis abated. Today, we have at least six Saudi Arabias in oil shale alone, let alone what we can get from ANWR and the OCS — and just like in the Carter era, the Democrats won’t let us get it.

Instead, we hear the same kind of hysterical rhetoric today that we heard in 1977. “National catastrophe” has turned into “global climate catastrophe”, but otherwise the rest of it sounds exactly the same. Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are nothing but Jimmy Carter retreads.

Happy 20th anniversary, Rush. You keep proving why you’re indispensable.


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Carter’s most ridiculous solution was, or course, to put the north slope of Alaska off limits to drilling.

The more things change…

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are nothing but Jimmy Carter retreads.

Retreads! HA good one!

Speaking of tires, anyone seen the prices on them… man oh man.

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM

I need to ask Mr. Obama if it’s better for the environment to ran my car’s air conditioner or put the windows down instead. Mythbusters suggest running the AC saves gas, but how could that be? I need the answer straight from the Messiah.

DrW on July 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM

I want to know what will happen this winter if home heating oil prices don’t come down before the cold weather sets in.

The Democrat solution will probably to raise energy taxes on users of electricity and natural gas to subsidize the “poor” who are most impacted. That’s their idea of a solution. Sad thin is though that those that are helped will regard the Dems as their saviors rather then those at the root of the problem. God save us from ignorant voters.

DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

The one thing I remember about this as a kid were the people claiming that there were hundreds of oil tankers off the coast filled with fuel and just waiting for the costs to go up higher. I was a young, spunky, early adolescent with binoculars that lived on the beach and never saw one such tanker off the NE coast……..but people still repeat that story to this day.

Hening on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Avoid jackrabbit starts.
Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Rush’s show prep = Hot Air?

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

What next, Obama? Tell us to buy cardigan shirts for the winter?

newton on July 31, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Rush’s show prep = Hot Air?

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Heh! In my dreams. Other way around, I think. ;-)

Ed Morrissey on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Maybe the Dems will be unwitting beneficiaries of global warming if we have a mild winter and home heating oil and nat gas prices don’t crush homeowners. Of course I don’t believe in GW or CC.

DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Mythbusters suggest running the AC saves gas, but how could that be?

If you’re at freeway speeds, the increased wind drag of having the windows down costs more gasoline than the a/c.
In city traffic, windows down is probably better.

jgapinoy on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

In democrat fashion, wouldn’t government spending budgets be fixed by not allowing new taxes and repealing existing taxes?

Of course, some will cause our government to put up with inconveniences and to make sacrifices. The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.

jukin on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Yes indeed, happy 20th anniversary Rush. I am listening to him now. I plan to check my tire pressure in a few minutes, I need to help save the planet.
Thanks Ed for the post.
L

letget on July 31, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Rush’s show prep = Hot Air?
Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Heh! In my dreams. Other way around, I think. ;-)
Ed Morrissey on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

I dunno–your “deconstruction” of BO’s “energy policy” yesterday was at least as good as Rush’s.

jgapinoy on July 31, 2008 at 2:34 PM

I’m tell’n ya. The lib nominee’s name is more accurately, Barack CarBama.

Barack might as well have been born in 1950 and have a peace symbol (also known as the footprint of the American chicken) tattooed on his cheek.

Its the same old commie lite crap all over again.

Speakup on July 31, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Ed, you left out Rush’s subordinate (but lead-in) point, which was to question the value of an Ivy League education if this is the kind of thinking it produces.

And let me be the second on HotAir to recognize Rush’s 20th anniversary on the air. Has anyone ever rocked the way Rush has rocked?

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 2:37 PM

DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Fuel oil is probably going to go up… and fast here in about a month and a half.

If the Messiah comes about, I have a feeling that “rations” will come into effect and you will only allowed a certain amount of fuel oil per State, weather permitting, but not pretaining to the extreme.

In other words… I hope you got a wood stove and some friends with hundreds of acres of beautiful trees on private lands.

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Does a rock hammer count?

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Does a rock hammer count?

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Uh, no. Hammers hammer, they don’t rock.

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Looks like someone’s in the pockets of big Mechanic…

Grafted on July 31, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Happy 20th anniversary, Rush. You keep proving why you’re indispensable.

Also, today on his show, he addressed McCain’s rump-kissing of Pelosi and Gore, and admonished it.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are nothing but Jimmy Carter retreads retards.

You’re welcome.

NeighborhoodCatLady on July 31, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Hening on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

I remember waiting in long hot lines for gasoline as my Mom and some others puched the car forward. I hope it never comes to that again.

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 2:47 PM

NeighborhoodCatLady on July 31, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Quit insulting the retarded.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Uh, no. Hammers hammer, they don’t rock.

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 2:42 PM

rock hammers are used to crunch or crush open rocks to see what the outcome of their core is. Mostly used for Rock hounds (geologists looking for certain minerals) and Gemologists.

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Uh, no. Hammers hammer, they don’t rock.

Can we assume that a Harvard Law education leaves you dumber than a box of hammers?

NeighborhoodCatLady on July 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM

I remember, being an outside salesman, only getting gas every other day, odd license numbers one day, even the other. It was ridiculous. That speech he had a suit, but I remember him in sweaters so he could keep the heat turned down.
Inflate your tires…that is there answer…
Can’t afford to heat your home this winter, should have inflated your tires.

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Quit insulting the retarded.

That was the result of selective dyslexia.

NeighborhoodCatLady on July 31, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Rush rocks! The reason he is despised by the left is because he is right and they know it.

The talking point excuse by the left for not drilling everywhere is that we would not realize end results for ten years.

The truth is that if our Congress pases drilling, the world will see that the U.S. is serious about energy independence and the speculators will stop bidding crude oil higher. This realates of course to lower gas prices at the pump.

Will someone please drill this into the minds of the Democrat leaders? This should not be about politics but about people not having to spend a good portion of their paycheck on gas.

tazmebro on July 31, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Obama’s Energy Plan (OEP):

+Subsidize tune-ups or those making less than $100K per year
+Re-direct the US Border Patrol to check tire pressure on every vehicle entering the US – FROM CANADA
+Drop the speed limit from 65 mph to 25 mph for those making >$100K per year

(Anyone care to add amendments?)

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 31, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Rush should start a campaign of sending him a can of air for his car tires…

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Avoid jackrabbit starts.
Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Rush’s show prep = Hot Air?
Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Now, what actually works: Gentle acceleration. Does anybody else remember those animated ads from the Jimmy Carter era saying that jackrabbit starts waste gas so “Don’t be a leadfoot”–or am I dating myself? If you want to save gas, stop stomping on the accelerator and the brake. Go slowly and smoothly when speeding up, and do as much coasting to the stop sign as you can.

Maybe Rush remembers the Jimmy Carter era all by himself, and doesn’t read hotair.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

notice the ‘moral equivalent of war’ remark in Carter’s speech….right in line with what Jonah Goldberg has been railing against. Liberal Fascism

jp on July 31, 2008 at 2:54 PM

By inflating tires, driving slower, etc…you only save on gas you would have otherwise burned anyway. You can conserve yourself into more production of anything. Conservation only saves the consumer money short term and only relative to unit cost, it does nothing for supply chain and price inflation.

Wyznowski on July 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Rush is right as usual. nObama wants everyone to conserve resources and that’s great but that’s a plan to die slower rather than provide a long term energy solution. ARRRRG! Be smarter Dhimicrats!

Claypigeon on July 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Should’ve said…”You CAN’T conserve yourself into more production of anything.”

Stupid, stupid, stupid…(smacking self on forehead)

Wyznowski on July 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM

drilling for Oil is racist you know, just like the white man to want and suck the earth of one of its black resources, oil and then burn it!

/moonbat

jp on July 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Heh! In my dreams. Other way around, I think. ;-)
Ed Morrissey on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Um, no, Ed.

Happy anniversary, Rush!

Nichevo on July 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM

For what it’s worth, I don’t think the youth vote understands things like driving slower, checking your tires and getting regular tune-ups. This message might detract from Obama’s coolness.

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 2:59 PM

He makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein. If the MSM picked up on this like they would have with any other Republican, he would be laughed out of the race and Hillary would be giving the acceptance speech.
This comment by him is a stupid as it gets…you can’t be more out of touch then this comment.
This weekend, all of his surrogates will be out re-spinning this one. Which take up time, money, energy, focus=no traction.

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Maybe Rush remembers the Jimmy Carter era all by himself, and doesn’t read hotair.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

I’m not sayin nothin, I’m just sayin.

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Obama has the bloated ego of LBJ, the Borderline Psychotic personality of Nixon, the flatulent leftism of Carter, the man-skankiness of Clinton, the ideological obtuseness of AlGore and the glib elitist arrogance of Kerry

McCain isn’t Dole: If you want to compare him to a previous Prez candidate, he’s Ike in 1952: not a genius, not a conservative, and not the Silver-tounged Orator of the West, but a persistent campaigner who knows how to duck a punch from a lazy liberal Tool

( For those of you in Palm Beach County, William Jennings Bryan was the Silver-tounged Orator of the West, and you can google “Ike” )

Janos Hunyadi on July 31, 2008 at 3:01 PM

we could save a LOT of energy and reduce carbon emissions (if you care about that) if we could get the Left to help us stop illegal immigration. How many coal fired power plants are required to provide power to 21 million illegals? How many barrels of oil do 10 million illegals consume daily? (assuming not all drive). How many acres of land, gallons of water, hectares of trees, etc are required to support 21 million illegals?

Environmentalists ought to be natural allies against illegal immigration.

DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 3:02 PM

What a scary nightmare flashback. I remember Ronald Reagan asking the question “What would John Wayne say if he heard about all these things we just can’t do anymore?”

Those of us who fail to learn from History are destined to repeat it.

Churchill said “There is no History, only biography.” And what a sorry biography Carter was.

Obama will prove to be even worse if givin the chance, and that idiot McCain is no Reagan.

McCain should have learned from the 1986 amnesty that turned out to be a monumental catastrophy for America by encouraging millions upon millions more to follow suit.

If McCain is not an idiot, he must be a liar or a fool. Without his dispicable performance on amnesty, McCain would be a shoe in. But nnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooo. He has to suck up to Juan Hernandez and the “reward liars, cheaters, and thieves” crowd.

I just can’t forgive him for promoting treason.

saiga on July 31, 2008 at 3:03 PM

OBAMA: All the oil they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups, you could actually save just as much.

LIMBAUGH: This is unbelievable! My friends, this is laughable of course, but it’s stupid! It is stupid!

With congratulations and all due respect to El Rushbo that isn’t so much stupid as a bald faced lie. Obama, Pelosi and Reid will continue to lie to protect their bona fides with the gorons and the other members of the environmental lobby.

The stupidity is thinking that a majority of the American people are meekly going to swallow high energy prices and the lie whole. Methinks not.

BJTex on July 31, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Rush and his staff could well take advantage of the many good comments from this site, Akzed. Including so many of yours.

Maybe this and other sites are unofficial members of the “EIB memory division.”

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:03 PM

I loved it today when Rush said that he almost puked when he heard McCain talk about his respect for Pelosi. He actually made sense as to why we don’t elect Senators as Presidents. I agree with Rush, McCain pisses me off every other day. But what are we to do?

luckybogey on July 31, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Rush. You keep proving why you’re indispensable.

Rush, like most of us conservatives, cannot stomach the McCain. Is he still indispensable?

Valiant on July 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Not only are we back to Jimmy Carter on oil, we are STILL in Jimmy Carter land on nuclear power, paralyzed by one minor accident and one horrible Jane Fonda movie. It is truly disgraceful and unconscionable that this country has not built a new nuclear power plant in 30 years. Yet every one of our Navy’s aircraft carriers and many of its submarines are nuclear powered. Imagine how much gasoline our Navy has saved in the last 20 years from these nuclear powered ships.

rockmom on July 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM

If you read it in Carter’s voice, it comes out as

“This difficult effort will be the “moral equivalent of wawh”.”

I missed the war. Except for sweaters indoors in winter and 55mph speed limits.

Paul-Cincy on July 31, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Thanks for this post Ed. I hope everyone here, especially those under forty years of age, take the time to watch the Jimmy Carter video above. This is important because you will see that the same lie Democrats were putting forth 31 years ago, is the same lie they are putting forth today.

Folks, we are NOT running out of energy. I know it seems hard to believe that we can forever use energy and not run out, but its true nevertheless. Energy is neither created or destroyed.

Every time a survey has been taken for the amount of KNOWN oil reserves since the mid 1800′s, the amount has INCREASED each and every time. The world’s current KNOWN oil reserves are LARGER today than at anytime in the past.

Some energy experts believe the Green River formation alone has enough oil to fuel the USA for well over a hundred years, maybe two-hundred years. This is without ANWAR or the OCS.

And we are not talking about natural gas, or coal, current estimates for coal are about another 500 years worth. But these are just the KNOWN reserves and we’re not even talking about nuclear power.

So where is the panic over RUNNING OUT of energy? Its only in the minds of liberals that use such scare tactics to gain power, to tax and to control.

There is no energy crisis and there is no oil crisis, there is only a production crisis that the Democrats and environmentalists have caused with there screeching lies of …. RUNNING OUT for the past thirty years.

America needs cheap and abundant energy in order to achieve a robust economy. If we want energy, we need only to develop it, we are not running out. We need to stop being bullied and buffaloed by the Democrats and environmentalists and make America energy independent for centuries to come. It can easily be done if we only tell the Democrats and environmentalists to shut up and get out of our way!!

Maxx on July 31, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Re-watching those old Carter speeches makes me nauseous. I remember seeing them when I was a kid, and being scared. I thought I was growing up in a country that was in steep decline thanks in part to that weak old fool, his speeches, and his damned sweaters.

forest on July 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I hate to think of a world without Rush on the airwaves. I am one of those who came across his program many years ago and said, “Hey, here’s someone who agrees with me”. Libs of course think the opposite is true, that we are a bunch of mindless idiots (like them) who can’t think for ourselves so we depend on Rush to think for us. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are in lockstep, although no one expresses our thoughts as clearly and eloquently as El Rushbo.

He’s my daily fix, who eases the pain of political buffoonery. When he’s not in the studio I go into withdrawal.

fogw on July 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Now I understand why the rabbit went after Carter! Good rabbit!

sabbott on July 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM

As a youngster in my late 20′s I was selling cars while this dufus was POTUS! Car dealership owners were literally going insane as interest rates hit 20% on floor plan and we couldn’t give cars away because of interest rates, huge inflation and this nit wit in the White House telling us it was our fault!!! Obama will be the 2nd term of the the Carter White House!

sabbott on July 31, 2008 at 3:18 PM

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Aw shucks.

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 3:19 PM

I’ve seen theories that say that oil and gas are natural products of mother earth and NOT fossil fuels. Don’t know how much I believe this theory BUT how many moons around the gas giants have thick methane atmospheres or lakes of other hydrocarbons? They weren’t produced by prehistoric life.

DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 3:19 PM

as a small business owner in the state of maine(insulation contractor) my phone is ringing off the hook.
people are in a panic up here. one might think it’s good for business but it is impossabie to keep up with. HELP WANTED!!!

aceinstall on July 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM

rockmom on July 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Worse yet, it will take 8-10 years to bring a new nuclear power plant on line. We need to get moving on this NOW.

sabbott on July 31, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Just think how much fun it was purchasing a home with a mortgage interest rate of 12% during the end of Carter’s term.

fogw on July 31, 2008 at 3:22 PM

My little tribute to Rush is that I have been eating my meager lunch in my car everyday to listen to him between 1:00 & 1:45 ET for fifteen years.

My complaint about Rush is that his advocacy of stogies caused them to double in price overnight, and they’ve been overpriced ever since.

I wish congress would open up more land to tobacco drilling.

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 3:24 PM

First, I don’t listen to Rush (or the radio period), but congrats to him for being around for so long. Second, I am so glad I was not alive for Carter (was born during Reagan’s first term). Scary, scary speech. Third, my tires are perfect (and brand new), properly inflated, and I drive like a little old lady (I have kids, and I lurve my car)… and yet, I still can’t afford gas. This kind of thinking boggles my mind, and I hope the masses come to their senses. My family has a steady paycheck (thank you US Navy), and this is killing us – just think how bad it’s hurting people who are less fortunate. I ranted about this earlier on my blog, but it’s still fresh on my mind.

I’m starting to get angry enough to protest. I guess Congress is lucky I have no gas. I got plenty of sweaters, though.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 3:26 PM

I loved it today when Rush said that he almost puked when he heard McCain talk about his respect for Pelosi. He actually made sense as to why we don’t elect Senators as Presidents. I agree with Rush, McCain pisses me off every other day. But what are we to do?
luckybogey on July 31, 2008 at 3:05 PM

What are you to do? Please start by reading these two comments:

ya know, it’s easy to toss grenades on the internet, or in a printed article, or even on the phone. but when you face someone eye to eye, or work with them, or interact with them personally on a regular basis, the rhetoric has to take a back seat to civility. we can vehemently disagree on the issues without resorting to hostility. give Gore and Pelosi the respect that a retired US Senator and current Speaker deserves.

we complain about the lunacy the Left heaps on our President, and the lack of respect they show for his office. I’m proud that my AZ Senators, MCCain and Kyl, are gentleman who show respect to their adversaries.
DrW on July 30, 2008 at 4:22 PM

and

Pelosi is going to be Speaker for at least one more term. What good would it do for John McCain to trash her now, before he is elected President? She may still treat him as badly as she has George Bush, but at last he has been a gentleman and the ball is in her court to reciprocate. He is signaling that he wants to work with her after he is elected, not use her as a foil to score cheap political points with rabid right-wingers who despise her. I may not like it, but it is totally in character for John McCain. nd I’ll bet this quote surprised the hell out of Pelosi, maybe even humbled Herself.

It also could be interpreted as yet another backhanded slam at Barack Obama and his tissue-paper resume. He respects Nancy Pelosi, because, like him, she has paid her dues and risen through the ranks, and not cut the line at the front like Obama.
rockmom on July 30, 2008 at 4:41 PM

And then consider these two comments.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:31 PM

What are you to do?

Shut up and vote for him because he’s the GOP’s pick. Don’t pay attention to anything he says or thinks, because the alternative is Obama, and anything is better than Obama. Plus, if you don’t vote McCain, or don’t like McCain’s positions, or dare to criticize Obama’s opponent, you’re an idiot

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Paraphrased.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Rush does read Hot Air – I heard him mention Ed Morrissey the other day.

Buy Danish on July 31, 2008 at 3:35 PM

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Gent bent you f*ing troll.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Rush does read Hot Air – I heard him mention Ed Morrissey the other day.
Buy Danish on July 31, 2008 at 3:35 PM

He was referring to the other Ed Morrissey.

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 3:37 PM

I am a gent. Thanks for noticing.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Shut up and vote for him because he’s the GOP’s pick. Don’t pay attention to anything he says or thinks, because the alternative is Obama, and anything is better than Obama. Plus, if you don’t vote McCain, or don’t like McCain’s positions, or dare to criticize Obama’s opponent, you’re an idiot
MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Seriously, you can’t counter anything that I say with the facts so you have to act like an internet troll and attempt to strawman what I say into what your mind (if you can call it that) thinks I am saying. You disgusting disgrace of a “conservatie.”

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Speaking of vulgarity in online anonymous comments…

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM

OBAMA: All the oil they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups, you could actually save just as much.

I’m shaking my head right now, oh the idiocy, it’s unbelievable.

I do remember my parents arguing in the car about something, at which point my Dad started speeding, and my Mom ribbing him about wasting gas, just made him even more pissed! (My Dad’s a total liberal dem.) This was during the Carter admin. I remember sitting in those lines in the unbelievable heat of a DC summer.

4shoes on July 31, 2008 at 3:39 PM

and if he didn’t act like an internet troll, Anna, then I wouldn’t have to respond to him in the only language he can understand.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:40 PM

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:40 PM

I was just trying to relieve the tensions with a little humor, that’s all. One man’s troll is another man’s, um, non-troll. Or something like that.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 3:42 PM

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Erm. You are aware, aren’t you, that Rush is a LYING LIAR WHO LIES ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!

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MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Heh.

misterpeasea on July 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Of course. It’s my fault you insult people who disagree with you, dislike McCain, and swear like a teenager who has discovered the ability to act tough with a keyboard.

You’re not responsible for your actions. That’s what a conservative thinks, right?

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Boys! Don’t make me come down there!!!

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Hening on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

I lived in Virginia Beach at the time and my husband (then boyfriend) lived by the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. Honest to goodness there were MANY tankers sitting in the Chespeake Bay. All heading into N.I.T. Were they filled with oil? Who knows? There may have been something else going on at the time but you could sure understand people being suspisious.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2008 at 3:45 PM

I want to know what will happen this winter if home heating oil prices don’t come down before the cold weather sets in.

DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Barry O Says

Get a Coat!

Rbastid on July 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Looks like the malaise has set in around here.

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Jimmy Carter what a downer, what an Idiot!

our domestic production has been dropping!(well DUH do you think the environmentalist wackos had anything to do with that?) WTF..

Chakra Hammer on July 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Why do you insist on making nothing more than strawman arguments when you speak to me? Is this a disease that you have? If so, then I suggest you seek medical treatment.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I lived in Virginia Beach at the time and my husband (then boyfriend) lived by the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. Honest to goodness there were MANY tankers sitting in the Chespeake Bay. All heading into N.I.T. Were they filled with oil? Who knows? There may have been something else going on at the time but you could sure understand people being suspisious.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Funny you should mention that! I was at First Landing this past Saturday with the family, and there were a few tankers anchored offshore. One was high in the water (empty), but the others were not. Some of them sit out for days before they come in, mostly to wait until there’s pier space for them. But the gas prices down here are lower than, say, Maryland, so I know we’ve got a goodly supply coming in, at least around here.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Quick slightly OT question about those “jackrabbit starts”.
That term was from when we all drove cars with carburetors. With the advent of fuel injection and variable valve timing, does this still hold true?

Thanks,
Fat Old Guy capitalist Pig

Fogpig on July 31, 2008 at 3:54 PM

misterpeasea on July 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Wow. All we need now is floating rock and we’ve got ourselves a real party.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 3:37 PM

I have no idea who the other Ed Morrissey is, but he specifically said Ed Morrissey of Hot Air and pointed to one of his threads.

Buy Danish on July 31, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Fogpig on July 31, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Just like when you might say that you are going to “film” something, and you are actually going to use a video recorder, it’s not really ‘film,’ but you use the term anyway.

The term “jackrabbit” starts is the same phrase for accelerating very quickly from a stop, and it still wastes some gas. As opposed to a gradual start.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Why do you insist on making nothing more than strawman arguments when you speak to me? Is this a disease that you have? If so, then I suggest you seek medical treatment.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM

You insult anyone who disagrees with you or criticizes McCain. If they provide proof, you either ignore it or reject it on your own convictions, nothing more. There is no debate with you, because you look down upon anyone who thinks other than you.

You are a straw man, because a straw man is not actually a real man.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:59 PM

I am a rock solid conservative! Ronald Reagan is my hero along with Winston Churchill. I will not and can not support John McAmnesty! Just because the RNC tells me to do something doesn’t make it right…pardon the pun! John McAmnesty is not and never will be a conservative. I knew Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was a friend of mine (he was my President) and you, John McAmnesty are NO Ronald Reagan!

sabbott on July 31, 2008 at 4:04 PM

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 3:59 PM

What You are doing, is attempting to insult me. By making crap up that isn’t true.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 4:05 PM

McCain, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc.. all need to get together and come up with a comprehensive cap/trade destroy-the-economy plan and force it through.

Currently they seem to be butting heads on the best way to destroy the US with cap/trade, so why don’t they all just put the best components of each other’s plans and hope for the worst?

Maybe they could work this in with one of the failed McCain shamnesty bills. 2 for one in the destruction of American as we know it.

nottakingsides on July 31, 2008 at 4:06 PM

wise-man

Have Pelosi and the Dems given our President respect? I think not. They can say and do anything for their own political gain. As an example watch CPAN and the Kucinich impeachment proceedings. Is this the respect you are talking about?

luckybogey on July 31, 2008 at 4:08 PM

By making crap up that isn’t true.

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Everything you disagree with is either a lie or “made up”. Thanks for the irony.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 4:14 PM

tazmebro on July 31, 2008 at 2:51 PM

The current Congress is Banking on not lifting the drilling ban. The more people feel miserable, the more they rely on Democrats to “fix the economy”. Thus usher in Dems in the WH, and majority control (more than just the 51-49) in Congress.

January 2009, they can safely lift the ban “follow the will of the people”, and implement all their DREAM projects.

Sir Napsalot on July 31, 2008 at 4:16 PM

“sabbott”

Another “conservative” for Obama.

You guys don’t tire do you?

Ron Paul crapped the bed, so now it’s “let’s lose a few elections so we can get a real “conservative” in the White House, huh?

Fine – just don’t call yourselves “conservatives”.

You are merely a citizen of the Obama-nation.

NoDonkey on July 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM

Fine – just don’t call yourselves “conservatives”.

NoDonkey on July 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM

That’s right. If you don’t vote Republican, no matter what, you are not a conservative.

Wait…

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 4:19 PM

From Rush, aka A LYING LIAR WHO LIES ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN:

…[The Wall Street Journal was] always in favor of McCain-Kennedy, the amnesty bill, not just in the news pages but in the editorial pages as well…But [McCain] would sign amnesty if it came across his desk as president…McCain’s supporters don’t even believe what he’s telling voters now. They know he supports amnesty and open borders, and that’s why they support him. When the rubber hits the road, these people at the Journal and everywhere else think that when it comes down to it again, McCain will get amnesty done…The New York Times is endorsing the liberal John McCain, the McCain who hates the Republican Party and doesn’t have much love for conservatives…

That secret Obama support Rush Limbaugh ought to just go on over to Kos or HuffPo with the rest of the trash, huh, _man?

misterpeasea on July 31, 2008 at 4:20 PM

You’re not a conservative if you work to get Obama elected, which is exactly what you “don’t vote McCain” “conservatives” are doing.

Hey, but you guys are magic. You made the name “Ron Paul” a punch line, and harped on the immigration issue to the point that no one wants to talk about it.

Maybe McCain’s gaining voters who are sick of the “conservatives” who continually bash a hero and a patriot like John McCain, while seemingly never having an unkind word to say about the far left Barack Obama.

NoDonkey on July 31, 2008 at 4:22 PM

Anna

I miss home so much! I live in St. Johns, FL right now due to BRAC. We are all set to move back but the housing market is playing well with others. Like I mentioned before, I have no idea about the tankers but it was bizarre to see them all out there heading in and none going out. I worked for a trucking company back then and they gave us five gallons of gas every week. It’s kind of funny how business don’t get much praise for what they did and do to help their employees during this blips. The company I am with now lets us work four tens. Very helpful.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM

There is no doubt a lot of bidding was going on, and if they could negotiate a higher price then they would wait a couple of days, but not much more. It could have gone the other way also.
There were huge problems on the West coast with getting tankers in and out. I don’t know the reason, but everything was in chaos, Carter had lost complete control of the country.

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 4:24 PM

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008

Can I go way off topic with you and ask if you have the scoop on why Sandy Sullivan lost the election for Secretary of State in 2006?

Sorry, HotAir.

BigD on July 31, 2008 at 4:26 PM

NoDonkey on July 31, 2008 at 4:22 PM

This is for you absolutely static-minded fear-driven McCain shills, for the millionth time:

A vote for McCain is a vote for McCain.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama.
A vote for neither is a vote for neither.

Get that through your diehard partisan little heads, and get wise to the fact challenging other’s conservatism when your own candidate’s conservatism is, at best, questionable, is not helping your candidate. If anything, it’s reinforcing the image of his hostility to conservatives through your behavior as loyal acolytes.

In the end, your attitude is a mirror image of the attitude of Obama worshippers.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 4:26 PM

That secret Obama support Rush Limbaugh ought to just go on over to Kos or HuffPo with the rest of the trash, huh, _man?

misterpeasea on July 31, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I am a McCain supporter, and I can’t argue with what Rush stated…amnesty is his Achilles hell (heel), fortunately he is up against Obama.

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 4:27 PM

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