God bless him and let’s hope more will have the opportunity to do the same.

Maybe it’s a little deeper than fellow Abrahimic faiths being EEEEEVIL?

flashoverride on August 1, 2008 at 10:40 AM

What would you call a religion that supports honor killings, beheading civilians, strapping bombs to toddlers, genital mutilation, the oppression of women and those of other fates, and riots over cartoons? What would you call a religion where tens of millions of its adherents support violence on civilian targets? What would you call a faith where television shows encourage their children to be suicide bombers?

When these things are done because of scholarly interpretations of that faith’s doctrine rather than in spite of them, it should become fairly clear.

Are there national and cultural forces at play? Of course. Are those in Islamic nations a monolith? Not at all. Is there a common thread in these diverse peoples that appears to drive a significant portion of them to acts of terror and depravity? You betcha?

Tolerance is not a virtue when you tolerate something horrible.

What would it take for you to see that trends in the places you mention (Pakistan et al.) are toward more Islam of the Wahabbi variety and less of the indigenous brand of Islam? Do they have to change the name to Paki Arabia? Do you not see these as empirical questions or are they abstractions to you?

Well, my family and I supppose more directly my dumb, white, blue-eyed blonde-haired self would have to agree to play in your ignorant world-of-view. Since I am unwilling to subject them, I suppose you and I can play. You cast doubt upon my statement as to the “Islamic world” folly. Please care to enlighten us as to the finer points of Sunni Muslim Arab Saudi Arabians as it concerns Sunni Muslim non Arab Kyrgyzs.

Oh, can’t speak for it? Maybe there are more nationalist roots at play? Maybe it’s a little deeper than fellow Abrahimic faiths being EEEEEVIL?

Please please get your facts straight, for the love of God. I know you love to opine on how EEEEEVIL the Muzzies are, but point of fact the ‘Islamic world’ (if there is such a thing) already has the bomb (see: Pakistan). For 5 years, a majority Muslim country controlled 1500 nuclear warheads and the rockets they sat on at the launch sites in Kazakhstan. (Not organizationally, of course, but they did have physical domain and operational control over the old Soviet weapons).

Ah, the old “there’s no such thing as the ‘Islamic world’” red herring.

If you look at Pakistan’s history, it was supposed to be a more secular state and started out that way, but has become more Islamic, and specifically Wahabbist, over time. I recall reading that Pakistanis have recently taken to giving their children Arab names as opposed to the more traditional Pakistani names.

In those other countries from the former Soviet Union, obviously the brand of Islam is going to be different, since they were so isolated from the Islamic world, but again the Wahabbis are spending money to promote their brand of Islam there as well.

It’s clear that your head is in the sand on this issue. I guess what I don’t understand is why you feel the need to express an opinion when that opinion is clearly unsubstantiated by facts. What would it even take for you to agree that there was an “Islamic world”? Would every Muslim have to agree on every single point in some policy plan? So long as there is a single Muslim who thinks infidels aren’t all that bad there’s no Muslim threat? What would it take for you to see that trends in the places you mention (Pakistan et al.) are toward more Islam of the Wahabbi variety and less of the indigenous brand of Islam? Do they have to change the name to Paki Arabia? Do you not see these as empirical questions or are they abstractions to you?

Why don’t you find a thread about a topic you know something about and post there?

/sarc

Please please get your facts straight, for the love of God. I know you love to opine on how EEEEEVIL the Muzzies are, but point of fact the ‘Islamic world’ (if there is such a thing) already has the bomb (see: Pakistan). For 5 years, a majority Muslim country controlled 1500 nuclear warheads and the rockets they sat on at the launch sites in Kazakhstan. (Not organizationally, of course, but they did have physical domain and operational control over the old Soviet weapons).

Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
- Charles Mackay

Madness is rare in individuals – but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule.
Friedrich Nietzsche

I cannot wait for the day that this sentiment becomes “common sense”. I know a guy (as I’m sure many other HA readers do) who’s very “middle of the road” when it comes to all things and he’s reaching the breaking point, so I know it can’t be much longer.

venividivici on July 31, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
- Charles Mackay

This just gives more support to my belief that we need to destroy Islam

Tim Burton on July 31, 2008 at 8:57 PM

I cannot wait for the day that this sentiment becomes “common sense”. I know a guy (as I’m sure many other HA readers do) who’s very “middle of the road” when it comes to all things and he’s reaching the breaking point, so I know it can’t be much longer.

Exactly. I mean he was only there in the midst of it. It’s not as though he’s an American liberal.

Esthier on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

ZING! That’s gonna leave a mark.

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I should know, I was one of them

great, we have two conversions to celebrate!

After we burned down most of their cities and nuked two others, the Japs conceded that maybe surrender wasn’t such a bad thing after all.

Wow. Who would’ve thought this possible? Joseph Masab, the son of a Hamas leader, sees the light, and warns why Israel will never find any peace with Hamas around (via Hot Air):…

Islam, as the ideology that guides them…

This cannot be repeated enough.

Maybe it’s time for Jews to start thinking about exterminating Muslims instead of the other way around. Imagine the outcry from the liberals. It may be closer than many think. I read that Netanyahu’s party is leading in the polls there. If he becomes leader of Israel, you won’t be hearing about rocket attacks and wiping Israel off the map from the rag heads anymore. That guy makes Ronald Reagan look like Cindy Sheehan.

- The Cat