Hamas scion converts to Christianity, sends regards to Israel
posted at 1:45 pm on July 31, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Actually, Joseph Masab has more than just regards to send to Israel. The son of a West Bank Hamas leader also tells the Israelis that they will never have peace as long as Hamas exists. He spoke to Haaretz from his new home in California, but Masab longs to return to Israel in peace as a practicing Christian (h/t: Meryl Yourish):
“You Jews should be aware: You will never, but never have peace with Hamas. Islam, as the ideology that guides them, will not allow them to achieve a peace agreement with the Jews. They believe that tradition says that the Prophet Mohammed fought against the Jews and that therefore they must continue to fight them to the death.”
Is that the justification for the suicide attacks?
“More than that. An entire society sanctifies death and the suicide terrorists. In Palestinian culture a suicide terrorist becomes a hero, a martyr. Sheikhs tell their students about the ‘heroism of the shaheeds.’”
Culture of death — doesn’t that sound familiar? Golda Meir once said that the Middle East would have peace when Israel’s enemies learned to love their children more than they loved death. Masab plainly tells the Israelis that not only has that time not yet come, but that the death-worship has gained steam. The same warning applies to all forms of radical Islam. There simply is no room to negotiate with people in love with death.
Maybe our own State Department should get in touch with Masab. We’ve done a pretty decent job of keeping sanctions on Hamas, but pushing Israel into negotiations with the Palestinians when they remain wedded to this death-cult doesn’t do anything to increase security in the region.
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Oh what’s he know?
Akzed on July 31, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Bravo. Bravo.
Jaibones on July 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Do Muslims ever stop and take a look around at the material differences between their culture and the cultures of leading nations and ask themselves what the differences are? The poorest Western culturally Christian nation is more prosperous, free, and democratic then the best Musilm nation.
DerKrieger on July 31, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Maybe this will open the floodgates…
RushBaby on July 31, 2008 at 1:57 PM
The same warning applies to all forms of
radicalIslam.Truth.
peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Don’t tell that Barry Hussein Obama.
RobCon on July 31, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Wow. On a grimmer note, we’re measuring this guy’s lifespan in what, minutes now?
“The Religion of Peace: What, cemeteries are totally peaceful!”
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 31, 2008 at 1:59 PM
The extremists (actually main stream Wahabbi Muslims (Sunni) and orthodox 12ers (Shi’a)) know they only have to win once and soon they’ll have the bomb. All Muslim sects will temporarily put their differences aside when the mushroom cloud(s) form over Israel.
Annar on July 31, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Yet another Pali with the brains to walk and chew gum at the same time flees the institutionalized insanity.
mojo on July 31, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Actually she said “the Middle East would have peace when Israel’s enemies would love their own children more than they hate ours.”
Clearly that day is not even on the horizon, as far as HAMAS and many in FATAH are concerned.
AlexB on July 31, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Turn Al Aqsa into a ‘martyr’ and THEN start negotiating. The Palestinians and Muslims don’t want peace. They want death to the Jews. Hopefully this new Christian who is knowledgeable about the intricacies of the region will be listened to.
Welcome to the Body of Christ, Masab. Thank you for your courage.
ThackerAgency on July 31, 2008 at 2:03 PM
And Olmert responds: “Oh, don’t exaggerate.”
*sigh*
Brave, brave man. Those commies in California better give him a CC permit.
MadisonConservative on July 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM
The largely unreported story is that scores of Muslims across the “10/40 window” are converting to Christianity, often after seeing visions or dreams of Jesus Christ.
jgapinoy on July 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Wonderful. May God bless and protect him.
CP on July 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Awesome!
Welcome home brother!
I wonder if he converted to the Coptic Orthodox Church?
Father Zakaria is doing a great job spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ to muslims and exposing islam as the fraud that it is on arab tv and internet sites.
http://www.fatherzakaria.net/
He has some great sermons, check him out.
Of course he has a $5 million hit/fatwa on him now.
SaintOlaf on July 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Exactly.
Masab is a very brave man to have gone through with this very public apostasy.
Buy Danish on July 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM
May God protect him. What a courageous, inspiring man. It’s too bad he’ll never be able to return to his homeland. He’d surely be a dead man if he did.
CrusaderMom on July 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM
………… What the F***!
Seven Percent Solution on July 31, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Shalom, Brother, glad to have you on our side.
Squid Shark on July 31, 2008 at 2:12 PM
A Muslim who converted to Christianity who wants to live in Israel? This guy has balls of steel.
Good for him, though. Indeed, many lessons about reality could be gleaned from him for our State Department.
Grafted on July 31, 2008 at 2:13 PM
I met Father Z once. Very interesting man.
Squid Shark on July 31, 2008 at 2:13 PM
“There simply is no room to negotiate with people in love with death.” Bingo…hence The Left’s ability to tolerate, even side with terrorists. White guilt along with guilt and ’self’ hatred over being the super power, whose average citizens are far more affluent than the ‘regular folks’ in the world. 9/11 was nothing compared to what we’ve done to other countries, besides we deserve to die to make up for all the evil we have perpetrated on the world. (Oh, I almost forgot; there’s carbon footprint guilt too.) Put simply, the hard line lefties have a major guilt complex that amounts to a death wish…I should know, I was one of them.
God Bless Masab for speaking the truth.
Christine on July 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Here are lots of stories of Muslims who converted to Christianity.
jgapinoy on July 31, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Really? That’s pretty cool.
Where did you meet him?
SaintOlaf on July 31, 2008 at 2:18 PM
But, but, but, how can that be?
Commander Guy, one of the greatest experts on Islam in our lifetime, has said “I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace” and “Islam is peace”.
Joseph Masab must be really confused.
MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 2:19 PM
The radicals in Islam are the apostates like Joseph Masab.
MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 2:23 PM
I believe her actual quote was,” Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”
aunursa on July 31, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Joseph Masab is trying to hijack Islam!!!
MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Which, if they keep following Islam, will happen at about the same time that time itself comes to an end.
MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 2:27 PM
I hope this guy becomes Fox News religious correspondent. He needs to heard. Of course, the Lefties will call him a traitor.
Oh what’s he know? - Akzed
Haha, yup, expect it. You kid, but don’t be suprised.
Tony737 on July 31, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Exactly. I mean he was only there in the midst of it. It’s not as though he’s an American liberal.
Esthier on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Beat me to the punch.
I second that.
Hawkins1701 on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Well golly. I wouldn’t have expected this in a million years. Score one for the powers of good. I will be praying for the safety of this brave man; his likely lifespan can now be measured in days.
Dark-Star on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I am woe to consider what will be if Obama wins, Hamas has been contained (not dealt with but contained until things explode) well by the US so far. Ed or Ap linked to a theoretical Obama cabinet yesterday, I’m imagining Biden at State, & Hagel at Defense with Obama at the head of the table versus a new Likud Govt in Israel - OUCH…
Hamas will be courted, the death cult ignored and Israel’s government will resist. Sparks are going to fly, and relations will be very sour.
McCain needs to win, there is just too much stuff going on. Gaza and Lebanon have fallen, the west bank is next, Israel is playing footsie with Syria, the US with Iran. It’s a frickin disaster in the making.
saus on July 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Exactly and IMHO it’s the left in our government that keeps pushing the Israeli’s into continued negotiations! I’ve been saying for years, any and all ‘peace negotiations’ with the Arabs in Palestine is a futile farce because living in peaceful coexistence with Israel is not the goal of the Palestinian Arabs!
For most people with half a brain that have not been fooled by the Palestinian Arab propaganda machine their goal is far from peaceful coexistence, their goal always has been and always will be the total destruction of Israel.
As further proof one need only look at the highly touted deal Clintoon brokered between Israel and Arafat and what the Arafat lead Arab Palestinians did with that golden opportunity for peaceful coexistence, they started another ‘intifada’ again because peaceful coexistence with Israel is not their goal!
The only fools that believe the Arabs in Palestine truly desire peaceful coexistence with Israel are the left-tard moonbats drunk from consuming too much of the Palestinian Arab propaganda Kool-aid!
Again, ANY negotiation between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs is farcical and futile!
Liberty or Death on July 31, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Allah hates you this I know
For the Koran tells me so
Infidels Christians and Jews we bomb
They are weak but we are strong
Yes Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you,
The Koran tells me so.
Allah hates you, you will die
Blow your ass up to the sky
Say the salat, chop off head,
Eat falafel, go to bed.
Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you!
The Koran tells me so.
Aleph on July 31, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Yes and yes. It always infuriates me that Israel is supposed to adhere to all the rules imposed on them by the UN and everyone else while the Palestinians keep busy trying to kill them any way they can.
4shoes on July 31, 2008 at 2:41 PM
God bless him, but now he may have to move away from California, especially if he is in San Fran.
right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 2:42 PM
A classic worth revisiting!
Good shot.
jgapinoy on July 31, 2008 at 2:42 PM
You have no clout
You better not try
You better watch out, I’m telling you why.
Twelfth Imam is coming to town
A-Bomb is on list
I’ll use more than twice
Good Muslims who die
Will go to paradise
Twelfth Imam is coming to town
He knows if you’re a Christian
He knows if you’re a Jew
He knows if you’re an in-fi-del
He’s told me what to do
So….You have no clout
You better not try, I’m telling you why.
Twelfth Imam is coming to town
Twelfth Imam is coming to town
Aleph on July 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM
We can solve this problem quickly if we just give Hamas what they really want - death.
CliffHanger on July 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Because he no longer hates/blames the USA as they do.
jgapinoy on July 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Were working on that. I think all the powers at be understand that reality.
saiga on July 31, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
- The Cat
MirCat on July 31, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Great, another Christianist to bring woe to the world, right AP?
TBinSTL on July 31, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Everyone pretty much knew that before the guy said it. Only a moron would think that the radicals in Islam would ever make peace with the Jews.
Maybe it’s time for Jews to start thinking about exterminating Muslims instead of the other way around. Imagine the outcry from the liberals. It may be closer than many think. I read that Netanyahu’s party is leading in the polls there. If he becomes leader of Israel, you won’t be hearing about rocket attacks and wiping Israel off the map from the rag heads anymore. That guy makes Ronald Reagan look like Cindy Sheehan.
orlandocajun on July 31, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Courageous!
This cannot be repeated enough.
Connie on July 31, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Isn’t it time for someone on this blog to start taking shots at us Christians? Never mind that this guy now wants peace now that he’s a…gasp…(whisper)…a…(hushed voice so nobody will hear)…Christian…
sabbott on July 31, 2008 at 4:08 PM
As I recall, back in the 40’s the same things were being said about the Japanese. They’ll never surrender, as the code of Bushido just won’t allow it.
After we burned down most of their cities and nuked two others, the Japs conceded that maybe surrender wasn’t such a bad thing after all.
Special Forces Grunt on July 31, 2008 at 5:31 PM
great, we have two conversions to celebrate!
urbancenturion on July 31, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Hmmmm…..sounds like Coulter was right about the need to convert Muslims to Christianity.
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GT on July 31, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Maybe Israel should just nuke Palestine and be done with it rather than be bled in perpetuity. After all, how could the Muslims hate them any more? They’re pegged out on hate.
Tantor on July 31, 2008 at 6:18 PM
There’s only one thing wrong with Islam: the Koran.
profitsbeard on July 31, 2008 at 6:33 PM
ZING! That’s gonna leave a mark.
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 31, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Ann Coulter stated that one answer was to convert them to Christianity. God Bless him and I pray he can help to convert others.
azcop on July 31, 2008 at 7:38 PM
This just gives more support to my belief that we need to destroy Islam
Tim Burton on July 31, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
OldEnglish on July 31, 2008 at 8:57 PM
I cannot wait for the day that this sentiment becomes “common sense”. I know a guy (as I’m sure many other HA readers do) who’s very “middle of the road” when it comes to all things and he’s reaching the breaking point, so I know it can’t be much longer.
venividivici on July 31, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
- Charles Mackay
MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule.
Friedrich Nietzsche
venividivici on July 31, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Yeah we need to get rid of all those damn muslim extremists in Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Indonesia… I mean WTF, right? And God bless this judeo-christian nation and its religious tolerance!
/sarc
Please please get your facts straight, for the love of God. I know you love to opine on how EEEEEVIL the Muzzies are, but point of fact the ‘Islamic world’ (if there is such a thing) already has the bomb (see: Pakistan). For 5 years, a majority Muslim country controlled 1500 nuclear warheads and the rockets they sat on at the launch sites in Kazakhstan. (Not organizationally, of course, but they did have physical domain and operational control over the old Soviet weapons).
flashoverride on August 1, 2008 at 2:56 AM
Ah, the old “there’s no such thing as the ‘Islamic world’” red herring.
If you look at Pakistan’s history, it was supposed to be a more secular state and started out that way, but has become more Islamic, and specifically Wahabbist, over time. I recall reading that Pakistanis have recently taken to giving their children Arab names as opposed to the more traditional Pakistani names.
In those other countries from the former Soviet Union, obviously the brand of Islam is going to be different, since they were so isolated from the Islamic world, but again the Wahabbis are spending money to promote their brand of Islam there as well.
It’s clear that your head is in the sand on this issue. I guess what I don’t understand is why you feel the need to express an opinion when that opinion is clearly unsubstantiated by facts. What would it even take for you to agree that there was an “Islamic world”? Would every Muslim have to agree on every single point in some policy plan? So long as there is a single Muslim who thinks infidels aren’t all that bad there’s no Muslim threat? What would it take for you to see that trends in the places you mention (Pakistan et al.) are toward more Islam of the Wahabbi variety and less of the indigenous brand of Islam? Do they have to change the name to Paki Arabia? Do you not see these as empirical questions or are they abstractions to you?
Why don’t you find a thread about a topic you know something about and post there?
venividivici on August 1, 2008 at 7:29 AM
Well, my family and I supppose more directly my dumb, white, blue-eyed blonde-haired self would have to agree to play in your ignorant world-of-view. Since I am unwilling to subject them, I suppose you and I can play. You cast doubt upon my statement as to the “Islamic world” folly. Please care to enlighten us as to the finer points of Sunni Muslim Arab Saudi Arabians as it concerns Sunni Muslim non Arab Kyrgyzs.
Oh, can’t speak for it? Maybe there are more nationalist roots at play? Maybe it’s a little deeper than fellow Abrahimic faiths being EEEEEVIL?
flashoverride on August 1, 2008 at 10:40 AM
What would you call a religion that supports honor killings, beheading civilians, strapping bombs to toddlers, genital mutilation, the oppression of women and those of other fates, and riots over cartoons? What would you call a religion where tens of millions of its adherents support violence on civilian targets? What would you call a faith where television shows encourage their children to be suicide bombers?
When these things are done because of scholarly interpretations of that faith’s doctrine rather than in spite of them, it should become fairly clear.
Are there national and cultural forces at play? Of course. Are those in Islamic nations a monolith? Not at all. Is there a common thread in these diverse peoples that appears to drive a significant portion of them to acts of terror and depravity? You betcha?
Tolerance is not a virtue when you tolerate something horrible.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 1, 2008 at 12:27 PM
As a christian I’m overjoyed that someone from a group that’s so hard to reach out to has come to the faith.
God bless him and let’s hope more will have the opportunity to do the same.
Benaiah on August 1, 2008 at 1:19 PM