Obama is running right, while McCain is running left, which means if you’re a conservative, you have to respect Obama realizing that the Conservative way is the winning way. If you’re a Republican, you have to denounce it as flip flopping, even though he now agrees with you. Which means, you’re not a Conservative, you’re a Republican.

Best thing that ever happened to the Republican Party? Bill Clinton. Because then the Republicans finally embraced conservative ideals. Then they had the Contract with America, and then they pushed the conservative ideas through to legislation. Welfare reform? Huge conservative ideal, opposed by Clinton for how long? It was the third time the Republicans passed it before he signed it. Win, for Conservatives, and embraced by Clinton as his legacy.

Smaller Budget Deficits? Conservative Idea, shunned by Democrats, embraced by the Conservative Republicans. Started to work, and was embraced after being denounced loudly and often by Clinton, as his legacy item.

Republicans in the White House. Huge Deficits, out of control spending by Republican Congress. Loss of Conservative Idealism, embraced the Country Club Blue Blood idealism of the McCain wing of the Republican Party. Win, Republicans, loss Americans, and Conservatives.

Yeah, we got the White House, and it only cost us the Conservative Movement to get it. We kept the House and Senate for six of Bush’s years, and we sold our Conservative Ideals down the river for the victory, for which we got screwed royally.

No, I’m not Republican. I refuse to blindly support anything. By Choosing Obama, I hope to re-awaken the conservative idealism in the Republicans, so I can once again join them in pursuit of the Conservative idea. We can manipulate Obama, we can only be manipulated by McCain.

ThePrez

Don’t try to make sense of his rants–you too might end up voting for 10X rather than 1X because you hate X.

If we get McCain as President, we honest deserve everything he’ll do to us.

Snake307 on July 30, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Do we deserve what Obama will do to us?

Of course, we got McCain Feingold Campaign Finance Reform. Sure Freedom of Speech is curtailed, but that’s a Conservative plan right? Limiting freedom of speech is a good conservative plan.

Tax cuts, he’s for them, against them, for them. Now, he’s in favor of tax increases. McCain is a liar, who constantly and consistantly has said one thing to get elected, and promptly done something else that the public doesn’t want, and no matter how loudly they scream they don’t want it, he pushes anyway.

Obama on the other hand is ruled as all Democrats are, by the polling numbers. If the public is for it, they’ll eventually be for it in a limited fashion, for example the PATRIOT ACT, another McCain brainchild. Sure, you don’t get access to a lawyer, but that’s fine, so long as we protect America in accordance with the Non Partisan Partisan committee to find out what the Federal Government didn’t do on 9-11.

Only in the Republican Senate could legislation which violates the bill of rights be passed by the same guy more than once. Freedom of Speech, down in flames under McCain. Right to have an attorney present during questioning? Down in flames under McCain and the PATRIOT ACT. Not for terrorists, for citizens who are given a national security letter. Sure more than a thousand of them have been used so far, so it’s OK. We’re not doing it every day, just about every day.

McCain is a nut who I would trust as dog catcher, and you want me to support him for the Presidency? Forget it. I’ll take a spineless wimp in the form of Obama who we can influence to go right, it’s already been done, over a meglomaniac like McCain who wipes his ass with our ideals and principals.

Unless you like things like abridging the freedom of speech, denying citizens access to an attorney, oh and of course, my personal favorite, McCain Amnesty. Where millions of felons, not just in the illegal entry of the US, but identity theft, will be forgiven for a small fee and attendance to a couple classes.

No, McCain is too dangerous to trust with the White House.

the lies McCain Snake307 has told

Wow!
I have a life, so I won’t respond to everything in the litany of lies & hyperbole in your rant–almost everyone who reads it will see through it. I just want to congratulate you for being the first person I know who says he hates high taxes, corruption, liberal judges, & earmarks, but still is & that’s why you’re voting for BO.
You’re amazing.

In yet another fit of dementia and apparent lapse of memory, Barack Obama’s latest assertion that he does not take PAC or lobbyist money just isn’t true. This story in Roll Call does a great job of refuting Obama’s assertion today t…

Unless, of course, you count little things like taxes, earmarks, the War Against Islamofascism, abortion, & judicial nominees.

jgapinoy on July 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Ok, Taxes. McCain says that regarding Social Security, nothing including tax increases is off the table. His Carbon Cap and Trade plan? Huge tax increase. So there we have to say, that McCain is in favor of increasing taxes.

Earmarks? Oh, you mean those things that McCain writes into laws for himself, for example if you are using a corporate Jet for campaigning, you only have to pay fuel costs from your campaign if your family owns the corporation? A situation that applies just about only to McCain and John Kerry? That by the way was in his McCain Feingold Campaign Finance law, which was supposed to take the money out of politics.

Special Interest money? McCain said he wasn’t going to take any either, but sure enough he just took over a million from Oil Company Execs. Right after he got on board the Drilling offshore side of the issue he’s always opposed.

War on Terror? Obama is calling for a Surge in Afghanistan to fight the Taliban and Al Q in Afghanistan. What does McCain want? To stay in Iraq, and remove the troops when conditions warrant. Which is what Obama’s current position is. Sounds about the same, except Obama appears a bit more aggressive on Afghanistan. Perhaps McCain will come around soon though.

Abortion? McCain is opposed to Abortion, except when he had a chance to help push a Constitutional Amendment, the only thing the Supreme Court can’t overturn I might add, through the Congress. Then he wasn’t in favor of stopping Abortion, instead he decided to leave it as a political issue to campaign on.

Judicial Nominees? IS this the same McCain who said that Alito was too conservative, and Roberts wore his religion on his sleeve? Gee, what kind of nominees are we going to get with McCain? I know, Harriet Myers.

jgapinoy, you can blow smoke at some folks, but I suggest you don’t try and blow it at me. I hate John McCain, and I know why I hate him. He’s a back stabbing double crossing lying son of a female dog. He’s made his career taking a dump on conservatives, and now I watch all the supposed Conservatives singing his praises and swearing he’s a conservative too. Unfortunately, unlike the Liberals, I have a memory, and I remember the times that McCain shat upon us. I remember the lies McCain has told, and the times he screwed us over for his supporters the Media. Now, I’m supposed to forget all that, and pretend that he cares what we think?

McCain told us what he thought about us, so many times I have to wonder if you guys are drinking or taking some kind of drug to pretend that he’s really Conservative.

I won’t vote for him, I’ve already donated to Obama. I’ll vote for Obama, and I honestly hope and pray that Obama wins Georgia, my home state. I think he just might win this Presidency. If so, we will have averted the worst possible future for our nation. A true power mad dictator in the personage of John McCain. McCain hasn’t abandoned the Republican Party for one reason, he knows he can screw us over more from the inside.

If we get McCain as President, we honest deserve everything he’ll do to us.

Right now, the only thing different in the two campaigns is that Obama doesn’t want to drill, and McCain does. Otherwise, they have nearly identical positions on the issues.

Unless, of course, you count little things like taxes, earmarks, the War Against Islamofascism, abortion, & judicial nominees.

there’s not much difference between them

McCain has a lifetime voting record of always being right of center. Obamarxist has always been among the most liberal of the Dems.

jgapinoy on July 30, 2008 at 12:59 PM

If you ignore the violations of Freedom of speech, as in McCain Feingold and the other violations of the constitution and principal.

The problem is that his signature items have always been well left of center. The items he’s used to define himself, that have been the things he’s attached his name to. Bankruptcy reform certainly wasn’t a big right wing move. The environmentalist nutcase carbon cap and trade tax isn’t a right of center issue is it?

Right now, the only thing different in the two campaigns is that Obama doesn’t want to drill, and McCain does. Otherwise, they have nearly identical positions on the issues.

Iraq, conditions on the ground will determine troop levels, position of both candidates. Social Security? We may have to tax more to save it, position of both candidates. I could go on and on and on.

McCain is as far left as he could get away with and stay in the Senate, do you think he’ll suddenly change and become this staunch rock ribbed Conservative all of a sudden?

there’s not much difference between them

McCain has a lifetime voting record of always being right of center. Obamarxist has always been among the most liberal of the Dems.

Last month, Barack Obama announced that “my party” would not take donations from federally-registered lobbyists…$15,000 of donations from dozens of lobbyists

That’s flip-flop number 22.

So all you can honestly say about it is that your guy is just as hypocritical as our guy? Come on, that’s not much of a rallying cry is it?

However, you see what happens when we nominate a Moderate like McCain, we’re reduced to finding these non issues and hoping to make them issues. You wonder why both candidates are below fifty percent in polling? Here’s why, there’s not much difference between them. They are both professional politicians, who will both lie, cheat, steal, and do anything for power.

Of course, with Obama’s “flip” on the war in Iraq, and McCain’s flip on raising taxes, we can safely say that the only difference between the two of them is drilling in ANWR and offshore. In which case, McCain isn’t one I’d really count on to follow through on those either.

“We’ll take the money and DO SOMETHING GOOD with it…”

Is there any way to check Obama does not get illegal ‘foreign’ contributions? Like German youths or Chinese starving farmers?

I guess being a liar and hypocrite is now considered the best of American traditions.

Thanks a lot, Barry.