ABC: McCain “now seriously considering” Lieberman for VP

posted at 9:29 pm on July 30, 2008 by Allahpundit

He’s going to transform the party — by turning us into hawkish Democrats? Nuance.

There’s a bigger point — and this initial volley, they say, lays the groundwork for it. They will be sharpening McCain’s message that he, not Obama, is the true change agent, a man who’s repeatedly taken unpopular stands, made the hard calls and forged bipartisan alliances.

Part of the calculus now is how his VP choice will further sharpen that message. There is significant support among top McCain advisers that he make a “transformative” pick who would change the Republican Party — someone who would appeal to moderate Republicans and Democrats…

A person who fills that bill, these advisers say, is Joe Lieberman.

Lieberman, an Independent Democrat, flatly denied his interest to ABC’s Ron Claiborne earlier this month, but McCain is now seriously considering him as that “transformative” pick, sources tell ABC News…

What’s more, some McCain advisers believe Lieberman would dramatically enhance the point they are now trying to make about Obama in this “celebrity” ad campaign.

McCain and Lieberman are anti-celebrities, the argument goes. They have, as one top adviser said, felt the heat after taking unpopular positions because they were willing to do “what’s right for the country” — whatever it meant for their own popularity.

Good news for that unpredictable five percent in the middle he needs to win, not so good for, er, everyone else in America. Are evangelicals going to vote for a guy who scored 100% on NARAL’s annual report card? Are Reagan conservatives jittery about McCain’s maverickiness going to feel reassured knowing Al Gore’s choice for VP is waiting in the wings? Is the left going to reach hitherto unscaled heights of apoplexy at the thought of the one pol they hate more than George Bush somehow ending up on the Republican ticket? (No, no, and yes, respectively, if you’re scoring at home.) Think of it in practical terms. Assume the worst happens and through some misfortune Vice President Lieberman becomes President Lieberman. Either the Democrats’ animus towards him results in hopeless gridlock in Congress or the breach is healed and we’ve got a lefty executive working with a lefty legislature towards common goals — Iraq excepted, of course. I like Liebs; I don’t like the idea. But the signs are there if you’re willing to look…

Exit question: Maybe the left, true to its proud tradition of honoring dissent, will forgive Joementum his apostasy? Hmmm.


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MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 1:51 AM

It’s BS.

Sir Andrew on July 31, 2008 at 1:57 AM

I told ya so….
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it’s the only thing he can do to ensure victory. Lieberman would split Obama’s vote, even if only by a few percent, it would be enough… and republicans like him. and right now we have no choice but to vote for McCain, he could care less what we think of his VP pick…. he wants Libs and Centrists…
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“Lieberman could be President with in minutes”… not a bad thing in my eyes…

Kaptain Amerika on July 31, 2008 at 1:58 AM

I like Liebs in the Senate but not the Whitehouse.

- The Cat

MirCat on July 31, 2008 at 2:06 AM

As someone who’s under the tank for Palin, my gut reaction to this was:

1) ABC is trying to find somebody, anybody, other than Palin to promote for VP.

2) McCain is getting cold feet about the Pawlenty/Romney idea, and he’s taking a 2nd look at some secondary choices.

Probably a combination of the two.

Mr. Wednesday Night on July 31, 2008 at 2:19 AM

There ain’t no Reagan waiting in the wings, there ain’t no Newt waiting either.

Who was Newt in 1992. I had never heard of him, and I was in the South at the time, North Carolina. In 1994, Newt suddenly sprang into the public eye, and became overnight, the greatest spokesman for Conservative ideals since Ronald Reagan. Honestly, I hadn’t even heard of Limbaugh yet, I didn’t get his first book for some time yet.

Seriously, there are lots of Newt’s out there, in the second and third tiers, and there are a few Reagan’s out there too. I for one liked Georgia’s own Herman Cain, but that’s another story.

The point is that no one had heard of Newt until he came out with the Contract with America, and then everybody heard him. Despite the asinine talking heads swearing it was just politics, they were worried. Newt and the “Dittohead” caucus took Washington by storm, and from out of nowhere. It was the Reagan Revolution taking root, and sprouting up like weeds. We just forgot where we came from, and spent too much time doing the Washington Waltz. We lost it, and we gave it away for ideas we thought we could live with, instead of ideas we wanted, because we didn’t want to fight for them.

We have plenty of Newts out there, but they’re silenced by the McCainiacs. The only way to get the next Newt, the next Reagan out there, is to get the McCainiacs out of the damned way, and once again, and we have to do this from time to time it seems, throw those country club nuts back away from the center of the party.

Until then, we’re not the Reagan Republicans, we’re the Democrats, just not as far left. We’re not the Republican Party that won in 1994, we’re the Republican Party that lost our shirts in 2006. Conservative ideals is what gets the folks to the polls voting for us. Conservative ideals and principals which we can get action on. Common sense conservative ideals wins elections. It always has. We’ve seen it this year. Democrats running as conservatives, fiscal and reasonably social conservatives are whipping our asses in safe seats, because we’re running as Country Club blue bloods.

Fine, let’s make that choice. Then we can be as it was back in the day. When the joke in every Bob Hope movie was “Last one in is a Republican.” People will laugh, because we’ll be where they want us, the punch line of the joke. Great plan guys, win today, lose for decades.

Snake307 on July 31, 2008 at 2:27 AM

Legend, Dagny is watching you, shaking her head.
Entelechy on July 31, 2008 at 1:25 AM

I always thought that Dagny should have joined the group at ‘the Gulch’ when they asked her the first time. Dagny was smart, but a slow learner of things that go beyond mere common sense and engineering.

She could run a railroad better than any of them, but she naively thought that the politicians and the peasants would eventually come around to the side of sanity.

If Obama is a composite of Wesley Mouch and Mr. Thompson, McCain is, at best, a composite of a less intelligent Robert Stadler, with a little bit of Phillip Rearden thrown in.

People who think president Bush has ‘ruined the Republican Brand’ will be wishing they could have him back as President once they see what McCain does with the office.

I honestly, truly believe that we can recover from whatever Obama does (and I also honestly believe that he would be less successful at getting his agenda made law than McCain) and that America will FOREVER descend into ‘second world’ status under McCain.

I was warned 33 years ago to “never trust that d@mned Admiral’s Son”; I have been following his exploits pretty closely since then, and he has never given me reason to question that advice for more than a couple days at a time.

LegendHasIt on July 31, 2008 at 2:43 AM

Snake307 on July 31, 2008 at 1:33 AM

Snake307 on July 31, 2008 at 2:27 AM

Dang! We have pretty much seen eye to eye on McCain for as long as you have been posting here, but tonight you’ve been taking heavy doses of “Smart Pills and “Articulate Pills”.

I’ve been trying to communicate the same things, but haven’t done nearly as well.

Got any extra of those pills you can send me? My prescription ran out long ago.

LegendHasIt on July 31, 2008 at 2:51 AM

Because what McCain’s campaign needs is another war-mongering nanny-state-loving quasi-Democrat whose main skill is crooning about how much they love America.

Mark Jaquith on July 31, 2008 at 3:12 AM

whose main skill is crooning about how much they love America.

Mark Jaquith on July 31, 2008 at 3:12 AM

We teach them to take their patriotism at second-hand; to shout with the largest crowd without examining into the right or wrong of the matter, exactly as boys under monarchies are taught and have always been taught. We teach them to regard as traitors, and hold in aversion and contempt, such as do not shout with the crowd, and so here in our democracy we are cheering a thing which of all things is most foreign to it and out of place, the delivery of our political conscience into somebody else’s keeping. This is patriotism on the Russian plan.
- Mark Twain

The true patriotism, the only rational patriotism, is loyalty to the Nation ALL the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on July 31, 2008 at 3:29 AM

Please, this is propaganda to stifle McCain’s rise in the polls.

Seixon on July 31, 2008 at 3:31 AM

Politicians rarely do what they believe is best, they do what they believe will get them elected. Maybe Joe has finally seen the light. Maybe he has now decided that he can now afford to say what he really believes. He wouldn’t be beholden to the DNC anymore after the way they treated him. It is quite possible he could “come around” on quite a few issues if he had a national constituency rather than a New England voter base.

crosspatch on July 31, 2008 at 3:55 AM

Hmmm…. is secession still an option? ’cause it’s the only think makes sense anymore.

Watching McCain is like watching Wile E. Coyote opening the latest package from Acme. You just know someone is gonna get blown up, and you already know who.

wccawa on July 31, 2008 at 6:51 AM

Looky hey, looky Hey!

I don’t know about Pawlenty but I understand it’s made from corn and is served as a side in all the best restaurants. All I know about Palin is he was hilarious in Monty Python but how that makes him Vice Presidential material, I don’t know.

Romney’s conservativism isn’t going to convince any but the most naive voters that McCain is a conservative. And would a Vice President Romney make any of McCain’s administration less irrational?

McCain/Lieberman is the strongest (and perhaps the only) ticket to bring the swing voters who are liberally-minded but reasonably hawkish to vote Republican in any numbers.

I’m only surprised McCain thought of it. But it’s a natural: two centrist mavericks generally respected by all but the far, resolute left who would never vote for McCain anyway. It’s the only way strict constructionists have a chance at choosing the next round of Supreme Court judges.

flicker on July 31, 2008 at 7:28 AM

So do you mccain backers who claim he’s a conservative finally get it? He always comes back to Lieberman because that’s who he most agrees with. A mccain White House will be more welcoming to schumer, feingold, kennedy and spector then it will to any conservative.

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 8:15 AM

I’ll vote for McCain/Leiberman only if Obama picks Tancredo as his VP. What are the chances?

A McCain/Leiberman ticket will complete the slide to a One-Party, Two-Designation system.

We’re screwed.

tgillian on July 31, 2008 at 8:15 AM

Oh please Jesus…

Keep Joe close, real close!

J_Gocht on July 31, 2008 at 8:16 AM

Are all you evangelists who won’t vote for a Mormon ready to vote for a Jewish abortionist?

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 8:24 AM

Are all you evangelists who won’t vote for a Mormon ready to vote for a Jewish abortionist?

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 8:24 AM

Oy, a doctor. His mother must be so proud.

JiangxiDad on July 31, 2008 at 8:38 AM

McCain/Lieberman is the strongest (and perhaps the only) ticket to bring the swing voters who are liberally-minded but reasonably hawkish to vote Republican in any numbers chase away what few remaining conservatives were still willing to vote for McCain in a lesser of two evils scenario.

flicker on July 31, 2008 at 7:28 AM

Fixed it for you.

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 8:38 AM

Fixed it for you.

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 8:38 AM

Both are true. McCain team only floats these rumors so that “swing” voters get a sense of how “reasonable” he really is, and then McCain doesn’t follow through, making “conservatives” think he hasn’t completely lost his marbles. I’d say it was a reasonably skillful tactic, if that’s what it is.

JiangxiDad on July 31, 2008 at 8:42 AM

JiangxiDad on July 31, 2008 at 8:42 AM

A reasonable analysis.

I’m just sick of the Republican candidate trying to out-Democrat the Democrats. Reagan never did that, neither did either Bush, to that extent anyway.

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 8:44 AM

There are many reasons to not support a ticket like this, but one of my hot-button issues is censorship in games and Sen. Lieberman is 100% wrong on this issue.

If he is on the ticket I will not only vote for the opposition, I will campaign for them.

Sinner on July 31, 2008 at 8:45 AM

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 8:44 AM

I hear you.

JiangxiDad on July 31, 2008 at 8:47 AM

A mccain White House will be more welcoming to schumer, feingold, kennedy and spector then it will to any conservative.

Ahem, and the last seven years haven’t?

rjwest21 on July 31, 2008 at 8:49 AM

My vote is for Palin all the way. Would the smartest choice and would take a bit of shine off the Obama thing.

mustng66 on July 31, 2008 at 8:49 AM

It’s times like this when Republicans should be showing backbone. The right is trying to move to the left, and the left is trying to move to the left.

The result? A huge leftist gain in government. It seems the left slowly gains over the years and the right slowly loses ground.

Like most things, it’s the easy way out for many. It’s easier to be a liberal.

Just like it was easy to change their support for the ‘tough’ war in Iraq and spend years decrying troop deaths and monies spent while clandestinely supporting nearly every step made.

The only leftward McCain needs to make is to convince Americans he won’t recklessly take us into war. He needs to find a strong VP, and both of them need to stand up and say ‘We still have a pair, and America is still the greatest place in the world, lets stand together and show the world what we are made of, whether it be in the area of energy or security or community.’

Trying to out-democrat democrats is a non-winner.

cntrlfrk on July 31, 2008 at 8:53 AM

My vote is for Palin all the way.

She’s involved (maybe) in some mini-scandal in Alaska. I only first heard about it today in a brief mention in the WSJ, but here’s a news piece about it.

On Monday afternoon, the Joint Legislative Council, filled with Republicans and Democrats, voted 12 to 0 to formally call for an investigation against Governor Palin in a manner—that they are stressing—will be unbiased and done in a timely fashion.

Legislators approved hiring a special investigator to look into the controversial firing of former Public
Courtesy, KTOO-TV
Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan was fired two weeks ago without explanation and has said he was pressured by the governor and her staff to fire a trooper who was once married to Palin’s sister.

JiangxiDad on July 31, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Who was Newt in 1992. I had never heard of him, and I was in the South at the time, North Carolina. In 1994, Newt suddenly sprang into the public eye, and became overnight, the greatest spokesman for Conservative ideals since Ronald Reagan. Honestly, I hadn’t even heard of Limbaugh yet, I didn’t get his first book for some time yet.

Seriously, there are lots of Newt’s out there, in the second and third tiers, and there are a few Reagan’s out there too. I for one liked Georgia’s own Herman Cain, but that’s another story.

The point is that no one had heard of Newt until he came out with the Contract with America, and then everybody heard him.

Snake307 on July 31, 2008 at 2:27 AM

I’m not sure how old you were in 1992 and 1994, but I can assure you that I (and many others) had heard of Newt Gingrich in 1992…actually, I heard of him even before that during the Reagan years. And of course, I knew who Rush Limbaugh was at the time.

So I can appreciate that you didn’t know about him until 1994, but your additional comment that therefore no one else had heard of him is demonstrably false, and therefore weakens your argument.

asc85 on July 31, 2008 at 8:56 AM

If McCain screws up his VP pick he is probably toast and Joe would do that. Romney or Palin would be fine and would both help the ticket. If he wants to be go really far out he should try Newt. Newt’s baggage would be acceptable for the VP slot and it would sure help with the base.

duff65 on July 31, 2008 at 8:57 AM

Snake307 on July 31, 2008 at 2:27 AM

Gingrich was House Minority Whip in 1989, and before that, was instrumental in Jim Wright having to resign as Speaker of the House.

Like I said, unless you were a teenager at that time, I can’t understand why you never had heard of him before 1994.

asc85 on July 31, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Hello, wake up…this is the typical trial balloon.
Throw the name out and take the polls.
Pawlenty, Romney,Lieberman, Huck, he will throw more names out, then pick the one that polls the best in the direction that will help him the most.
This is done by every smart campaign for the past 40 years. Let the news media help determine who the best VP is. Rather then using “gut instincts” he gets a two or three day news cycle, gets the pundits to talk about it over the weekend, and files it away for analysis with the other “candidates”.

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM

If this is a trial balloon, then this is the response he should get:

WTF ARE YOU THINKING?!?!?!?!

The fact that a Republican candidate would even consider a macrolib like Lieberman is appalling and indicates just how far left this country has swerved.

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 9:05 AM

I go to bed early, come to the computer late, and this is what greets me?

I need some more tea, and a nice tranquilizer to get me through November.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 9:06 AM

I heard ABC also thought that Paris Hilton was in the running for his VP running mate. Does anyone actually think there is any credibility in this report?

JeffinSac on July 31, 2008 at 9:21 AM

He’s going to transform the party — by turning us into hawkish Democrats?

Proof (as if any was needed) that cranky old bastard is a frustrated Democrat. Choosing Joe Lieberman, whom I respect but won’t vote for, would just further McCain and is idiot followers plans to disenfranchise anybody who is a social conservative or evangelical. Time for a GOP revolt to get rid of McCain and his moonbats.

highhopes on July 31, 2008 at 9:21 AM

You know “Republicans have no chjoice but to vote Republican” is a mantra McCain will wish he hadn’t believed in if he keeps up with crap like this.

He will hang himself wishing for more centrists/moderates and forgoing the base.

The guy believes global warming is real and that Al Gore is a “champion” for that cause, but doesn’t believe in finding a knock down, drag out Conservative to be a running mate…

WTF?

catmman on July 31, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Beats Romney.

SaintOlaf on July 31, 2008 at 9:42 AM

LegendHasIt on July 31, 2008 at 2:43 AM

Agree with you about both Dagny and McCain.

I am so glad I read that book. And now, having read the thread, I’m not so glad that I did. There is just something not quite right about McCain picking Lieberman, but I can’t put my finger on it. Completely visceral.

However, I think it would be awesome if McCain picked Hilary. I’d be filled with awe at both the mavericky move, and at how crazy things have become. Seriously, just put me in a medically-induced coma, and wake me up if things get better.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Seriously, just put me in a medically-induced coma, and wake me up if things get better.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 9:51 AM

+1.

wccawa on July 31, 2008 at 9:54 AM

I’ve been saying all along that the reason Joe Loserman has been following Juan McCain around with his nose all but up his ass, is that he wants the VP slot. I was told by Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck that I was wrong, that “He doesn’t have those political aspirations” (and they both added that he was an “honorable man” which is akin to saying Geraldo Rivera is a good man- which Sean DID! During that same conversation)
Sean and Glenn are both full of crap on this. Republicans are using him (for the war effort) I’m from Connecticut (Home of Loserman) and I know him. He has done NOTHIING for this State (or anyone for that matter, but himself), as we continued to spiral into the toilet ever since he was elected. Don’t believe me? Ask someone this simple question- What has Loserman done for the State of CT? Name ONE THNG? I think the best you will get is “He CO-signed the clean the Long Island Sound Bill” ….WHOOPEE!!!!…He CO-signed?? and…WHAT???. OK, so we all saw how Loserman chased Gore for the VP slot, we saw how he praised Bush for the war and then when he was on the ticket trashed Bush, then when he lost, came back to the Republicans…you saw it…believe it if you want or not, he does it all the time. This man…this disgusting political whore…has been flip flopping his whole life for political expedience. He is a human spatula and NEVER makes a tough decision. If you find one, I’m sure it was for political gain and he reversed it later on. Last month, one of our papers proudly proclaimed that Loserman “Doesn’t have to decide” (on who to support for the presidency) since he is friends with both sides. PERFECT!…this is Loserman at his best! What a CREEP! He knows we will never vote for an Elmer Fudd type for the presidency, so he’s trying to back door himself in through the VP. The man is a piece of crap. I KNEW Juan McCain would use him when the chips were down and his back was against the wall. AND! I knew his back WOULD be against the wall all along. It’s why I predicted this from the get go. It would scare the crap out of me to See Obama take his throne, but I’m having a tough time voting for the dirt bags. Yea I’m angry….I’m pissed. I hate political whores.

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 9:55 AM

Have at it. I lived in it and it’s hell on Earth.

Entelechy on July 31, 2008 at 1:47 AM

This is why I always look forward to your posts on these subjects. You have the best perspective about what could happen, because you’ve lived through it. I have a lot of respect for you because of that.

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 9:56 AM

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 9:05 AM

What am I thinking
I am thinking this is a trial, just like Huck, Pawlenty, Romney. He (his poling team) gathers the information on each one. And plans his strategy, not just to pick a candidate, but to see where each of his “trials” poll on a variety of subjects. They do personal internal polling (time consuming and expensive) for each of the candidates in selected states and demographic areas to find – try to identify what positions are acceptable and embraced. it does not mean he is accepting him (although if the polling is off the charts he would), it means there are strong attributes that the (undecideds” (I think McCain is targeting the undecided now) like about Lieberman. They need to parse those out. And the way to do it quickest is by putting him in the headlines.
How do you think these pollsters make their money?
A little behind the campaign scenes for you…

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 9:58 AM

PLEASE NO!!!!

CP on July 31, 2008 at 10:01 AM

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 9:55 AM

That is the first time I have ever seen the words “human spatula.”

My life has been a sham until this point.

wccawa on July 31, 2008 at 10:03 AM

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 9:55 AM

That is the first time I have ever seen the words “human spatula.”

My life has been a sham until this point.

wccawa on July 31, 2008 at 10:03 AM

you’re welcome.

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 10:07 AM

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Thanks!
Read the first page of your blog. Nicely written. I also have seen some interesting insights from Goodkind. I think he would fit in comfortably here at HotAir

LegendHasIt on July 31, 2008 at 10:11 AM

What am I thinking
I am thinking this is a trial, just like Huck, Pawlenty, Romney. He (his poling team) gathers the information on each one. And plans his strategy, not just to pick a candidate, but to see where each of his “trials” poll on a variety of subjects. They do personal internal polling (time consuming and expensive) for each of the candidates in selected states and demographic areas to find – try to identify what positions are acceptable and embraced. it does not mean he is accepting him (although if the polling is off the charts he would), it means there are strong attributes that the (undecideds” (I think McCain is targeting the undecided now) like about Lieberman. They need to parse those out. And the way to do it quickest is by putting him in the headlines.
How do you think these pollsters make their money?
A little behind the campaign scenes for you…

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 9:58 AM

Not you. WTF is McCain thinking.

It’s not all about you.

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Are all you evangelists who won’t vote for a Mormon ready to vote for a Jewish abortionist?

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 8:24 AM

Nope.
And I might have backed Romney despite his Mormonism if I really believed he was a true conservative. But somehow true conservatives dont get elected in Massachusetts.

abcurtis on July 31, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Could be worse. He could pick Pelosi.

I’m not sure that Pelosi would be worse. She’s no further left than Loserman is.

flenser on July 31, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Vain effort to anger and divide the GOP.
The shoe don’t fit so don’t commit.
ABC says XYZ. Big deal. MSM kicking the anthill.
Don’t see yourself as an ant, and it doesn’t apply.

maverick muse on July 31, 2008 at 10:20 AM

However, I think it would be awesome if McCain picked Hilary.

They are well matched, that’s for sure.

flenser on July 31, 2008 at 10:21 AM

Win or lose. his veep pick is part of the future of the GOP. Though I like Leebs, this really shows what McShame thinks of conservatives.

Valiant on July 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM

A mccain White House will be more welcoming to schumer, feingold, kennedy and spector then it will to any conservative.

Much like McCains time in the Senate.

flenser on July 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 9:55 AM

Yeesh, political whores? The guy is probably the most respected senator on the hill, even after freaking his party out by not towing their defeatist we want America to lose line? Since 9/11 Joe became Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, led one of the most bi-partisan overhauls on US intellgence in its history, not too mention sitting on the Armed Services Committee, taking care of the US military & its soldiers.. Creating the Homeland Security Dept was Lieberman’s idea, his proposal!

You don’t like him it’ cool, you don’t want him on the ticket even more understandable, but whomever you described above is not Joe Lieberman.

saus on July 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Why not go all the way McCain .Lets see the mayor of New York for Sec. of state the Gov. of calf. for Sec. of Defence your good friend Harry Reid for the spreme court and last but not least you very good friend Mrs Clinton for Sec. of Health & Welfare. ( God help us)

thmcbb on July 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM

And I might have backed Romney despite his Mormonism if I really believed he was a true conservative. But somehow true conservatives dont get elected in Massachusetts.

True conservatives primarily come from states like Mass. For one, trying to make a political career as a Republican in this state takes balls.

freevillage on July 31, 2008 at 10:25 AM

WTF is McCain thinking.

He’s thinking “Who do I agree with everything on?” And it’s not Palin or Jindal or anybody with a conservative bone in their body. Leaving aside the pesky fact that McMoron is supposed to be representing a conservative party, Lieberman is the perfect match for him.

flenser on July 31, 2008 at 10:26 AM

The guy is probably the most respected senator on the hill

I despise Loserman myself. Mind you, I feel that way about lefties in general.

flenser on July 31, 2008 at 10:28 AM

as a Republican in this state takes balls.

freevillage on July 31, 2008 at 10:25 AM

No, it takes running from being a conservative. In debates it is giving into the liberals.
In essence it means selling out your beliefs for power.

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 10:31 AM

Not you. WTF is McCain thinking.

It’s not all about you.

fossten on July 31, 2008 at 10:13 AM

I got it, it was a rhetorical question…

right2bright on July 31, 2008 at 10:32 AM

LegendHasIt on July 31, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Yes, he’d fit in quite nicely indeed. I’d like to pick his brain about current events personally. And thanks for reading. : )

Anna on July 31, 2008 at 10:33 AM

Could be worse. He could pick Pelosi.

I’m not sure that Pelosi would be worse. She’s no further left than Loserman is.
flenser on July 31, 2008 at 10:18 AM

I seriously doubt McCain would pick a member of the House.
It will most likely be one of his frat brothers from the Senate, or somewhat less likely, a wimpish moderate Governor who he can bully into agreement (or at least silence), who he thinks can deliver a key state’s electoral votes.

It won’t be a strong personality like Pelosi or anyone with deeply held conservative values.

LegendHasIt on July 31, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Yeah I’m excited are you excited snore…this is going to happen when?

Dr Evil on July 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 9:55 AM

Yeesh, political whores? The guy is probably the most respected senator on the hill, even after freaking his party out by not towing their defeatist we want America to lose line? Since 9/11 Joe became Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, led one of the most bi-partisan overhauls on US intellgence in its history, not too mention sitting on the Armed Services Committee, taking care of the US military & its soldiers.. Creating the Homeland Security Dept was Lieberman’s idea, his proposal!

You don’t like him it’ cool, you don’t want him on the ticket even more understandable, but whomever you described above is not Joe Lieberman.

saus on July 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM

he is a CONNECTICUT SENATOR!!!! a Senator from CONNECTICUT. you dont know Joe. You think has has done some good? gice specifics. All these “over hauls” & “committees” sounds greeeeeat. Its all BS if nothing good comes of it all. And Again…Connecticut?

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM

I wouldn’t believe that McCain would be this stupid, but this is the Maverick we’re talking about. Much as I like Lieberman pissing off Dems in the Senate with his hawkishness, the conservatives that McCain loves to give the finer to will give him one right back this fall.

Physics Geek on July 31, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Please, this is propaganda to stifle McCain’s rise in the polls.

Seixon on July 31, 2008 at 3:31 AM

Yeah because everybody is so excited to be voting for McCain.

Seriously, is there anybody out there who is thrilled to be supporting McCain? If so why?

highhopes on July 31, 2008 at 10:46 AM

Seriously, is there anybody out there who is thrilled to be supporting McCain? If so why?

highhopes on July 31, 2008 at 10:46 AM

No, and at this rate McVain, the crossdresser of American politics will have no coattails because a 100% NARAL veep will give me an extra free day in Nov. as I will not vote; at all.

Branch Rickey on July 31, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Beats Romney.

SaintOlaf on July 31, 2008 at 9:42 AM

I’ll say it again.

Are all you evangelists who won’t vote for a Mormon ready to vote for a Jewish abortionist?

The bigots just can’t help themselves.

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 10:55 AM

We have to remember that the VP breaks ties in the Senate. Do we really want Joe Lieberm….oh, never mind! The Democrats are going to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate anyway!

malan89 on July 30, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Heh. Lieberman already breaks ties in the Senate. He could just as easily caucus with the Republicans and hand control of the body over to them.

Big S on July 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM

But somehow true conservatives dont get elected in Massachusetts.

So Reagan wasn’t the governor of California? And Duncan Hunter is a flaming liberal?

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM

he is a CONNECTICUT SENATOR!!!! a Senator from CONNECTICUT. you dont know Joe. You think has has done some good? gice specifics. All these “over hauls” & “committees” sounds greeeeeat. Its all BS if nothing good comes of it all. And Again…Connecticut?

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Hey, what’s wrong with CT? They have a Republican Governor, you know, which could mean we would see a Republican Senator from that state for a few years if McCain-Lieberman were to win the election in November.

Big S on July 31, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Physics Geek on July 31, 2008 at 10:43 AM

You forgot one other point. McCain DOES NOT need another old white male liberal on the ticket. Certainly not one who (outside Iraq) would make McCain the “conservative one” on the ticket.

highhopes on July 31, 2008 at 11:07 AM

I think this would be a much smarter move than either Pawlenty or Romney. Neither of those two bring in many new votes, but Liebs certainly would.

I think if he does choose Liebs, it won’t even be close. His being a Dem as the tiebreaker vote in the Senate won’t mean squat with the majority the Dems will already have.

I think this is the best we can do for this election – one brach of government. I’ll take it.

connertown on July 31, 2008 at 11:10 AM

I think he’d lose with Lieberman. We pro-lifers just couldn’t pull the lever for him. This selection would be an abortion.

Mojave Mark on July 31, 2008 at 11:11 AM

They have a Republican Governor, you know,
Big S on July 31, 2008 at 11:01 AM

I thought their (CT) “republican” governor was removed from office. I could be wrong.

Branch Rickey on July 31, 2008 at 11:12 AM

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

What the hell is he thinking?

Winebabe on July 31, 2008 at 11:16 AM

I think this would be a much smarter move than either Pawlenty or Romney. Neither of those two bring in many new votes, but Liebs certainly would.

I think if he does choose Liebs, it won’t even be close. His being a Dem as the tiebreaker vote in the Senate won’t mean squat with the majority the Dems will already have.

I think this is the best we can do for this election – one brach of government. I’ll take it.
connertown on July 31, 2008 at 11:10 AM

I think it could be smart as well.

And Lieberman is not a democrat. They kicked him out, remember?

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 11:25 AM

What this will really point out is that those in Power in the Republican Party are done.

If you can’t even find a good candidate within your own rank and file for VP? Give it up and go home… let someone else have a shot… because you have failed.

Romeo13 on July 31, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Why does McCain hate conservatives?

Maxx on July 31, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Why do some conservatives lie about McCain?

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM

I thought their (CT) “republican” governor was removed from office. I could be wrong.

Branch Rickey on July 31, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Jodi Rell (R), replaced John Rowland (R) when he was removed from office. She enjoys among the highest approval ratings of any governor in the country, and was re-elected overwhelmingly in 2006 after completing Rowland’s term.

Big S on July 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

I haven’t had enough coffee yet to actually have this sink in.

Is this another rumor or an actual blip on the screen of MSM?

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Hey, what’s wrong with CT? They have a Republican Governor, you know, which could mean we would see a Republican Senator from that state for a few years if McCain-Lieberman were to win the election in November.

Big S on July 31, 2008 at 11:01 AM

wow. no! this state is LIBERAL!!!! our Governor is a RHINO. She should have thrown the New Haven Mayor in Prison for turning his town into a sanctuary city. BTW- Loserman got in because our “Republican” (Lowell Weicker) gave us a state sales tax. If it wasnt for that…Loserman wouldn’t be where he is today. No chance.

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM

“Drums say big trouble”

McCain needs to pull his head out of his rear. Lieb is already a VP looser. This could be too much for Lieb to survive if he gets beat again.

saiga on July 31, 2008 at 12:00 PM

JiangxiDad on July 31, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Jiangxi, I would wait and see what happens. Something seriously sticks on this.

My State is going to hell in a hand basket. :(

upinak on July 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM

The point is that no one had heard of Newt until he came out with the Contract with America

Ummm, no. The political junkies knew who he was.

He ran a Speaker not only out of the Speakership, but out of the House. See Jim Wright.

I R A Darth Aggie on July 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Also – cow fart hoax co-sponsor – no? Is it not still McCain Warner – Lieberman?

Branch Rickey on July 31, 2008 at 12:30 PM

If McCain picks Lieberman, he’ll lose half of the South.

ThackerAgency on July 31, 2008 at 12:31 PM

If McCain really wants to knock the F outta the Messiah, he needs to do some flirting with Hillary for VP. Make it appear authentic but set it so it ends with Hillary saying something like “Though I was sorely tempted for the good of my party I cannot accept the VP spot on the McCain ticket. Though as a woman there ib plenty I can find to be excited about in a McCain administration”.

Zaggs on July 31, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Hope you are kidding. Liebermann is very liberal. The only thing conservatives agree with him is his war stance. He must be really stupid.

mariloubaker on July 31, 2008 at 12:49 PM

What this will really point out is that those in Power in the Republican Party are done.

They got there butts kicked in 2006 and grabbed onto the leftists’ talking points that it was about the war and kept right on going. boehner isn’t destroying the republican party, he is destroying America. His and his lieutenants roles in our downfall will be written about in history books.

peacenprosperity on July 31, 2008 at 1:03 PM

The only thing conservatives agree with him is his war stance.

mariloubaker on July 31, 2008 at 12:49 PM

And the phony conservatives will tell ya he’s a “good honorbale man” based on that, but wont take that back in regards to his “cap and trade”. He is such a politcal whore.

eplain on July 31, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Now I know we need a new party.

Johan Klaus on July 31, 2008 at 1:10 PM

I will not vote for McCain if he picks Joe. He needs to pick Mitt or better Palin for VP.

Tim Burton on July 31, 2008 at 1:13 PM

meh. Wake me when it’s over.

sulla on July 31, 2008 at 1:26 PM

wise_man on July 31, 2008 at 11:25 AM

Yeah, ok, he’s not a democrat. He’s still a flaming lib on most things but the fact he calls himself something else really changes how bad a pick he would be. Of course, you still float that arguement that McCain is a ‘true conservative’ so I guess we can glean from that that you’ll believe almost anything. You really think this is the best ticket? That’s sad. I mean, given how cartoonishly annoying Obama is becoming, ‘McCain/Plastic Fireman Helmet’ would probably be a winning ticket; but that you actually think Lieberman on a GOP ticket is a good thing; not a hold the nose/WTF is he thinking thing/ but a good thing…dude, you’ve got to change parties. Your McCAin fanboyism has clouded whatever attracted you to the GOP in the first place.

austinnelly on July 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Isn’t Lieberman the main sponsor of the cap and trade agreement? If that’s the case (and yes, I will research), then he sure won’t get a thumbs up from me!

mimi1220 on July 31, 2008 at 1:47 PM

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