Should ‘68 Olympic black-power salute be cheered or jeered?
posted at 11:20 am on July 29, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Forty years ago, two American athletes used the Olympics to stage a political protest, and their actions remain controversial to this very day. Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised their fists above their head during an awards ceremony, giving the black power salute associated most closely with the Black Panthers, enraging Americans who saw the Olympics (then) as non-political and the pair’s exploitation of the international stage as disloyal to the country they represented. ESPN gave the pair the Arthur Ashe Courage Award last week, and Jonah Goldberg criticizes the decision in today’s Los Angeles Times:
Last week, ESPN awarded Tommie Smith and John Carlos the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPYs — the sports network’s equivalent of the Oscars — for their once infamous, and now famous, black power salutes from the winner’s podium at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics.
The stench of self-congratulation surrounding ESPN’s decision is thicker than the air in a locker room after double overtime. “As the passage of time has given us the opportunity to put their actions into the proper context,” gloats USC professor Todd Boyd in a column on ESPN.com, “their supporters can now feel vindicated while their detractors must eat their words.”
The argument that Smith’s and Carlos’ critics must dine on their denunciations rests on an inch-deep nostalgia and the triumph of celebrity culture.
Goldberg hasn’t souffléd his criticisms yet, at least not for his own dining, and neither should anyone else. He roasts ESPN well in his column, lambasting them for their historical ignorance about the salute, the times, and the message it sent about politics and sports. In the end, Goldberg exposes ESPN’s Espy decision as particularly half-baked.
No one really doubts any more that the Olympics is all about politics, and this year above all should make that clear. The IOC awarded the games to Beijing in an attempt to ingratiate themselves with the political leadership in China, despite human-rights concerns as well as smog that could choke a horse. During the Cold War, the Games served as a proxy for armed conflict, with the Soviets and their satellites ruining the health of their athletes with massive doses of steroids and other chemicals designed to improve performances. Hitler staged the 1936 Olympiad as a tribute to the dominance of the “Aryan” master race.
The exploitation of the event by individuals such as Carlos and Smith therefore isn’t exactly a groundbreaking shift. However, Goldberg reminds ESPN of what exactly the salute supported. The Panthers at that time were an armed militia which wanted to enforce its point of view with violence. Nine police officers were killed in confrontations with the Panthers and dozens more injured. Their motto, “Off the pigs!”, often accompanied the salute Smith and Carlos gave in Mexico City.
As Goldberg notes, no one at ESPN appears to have bothered to research the incident beyond the film clip. Stuart Scott laughably recounted his own memories of the event and the times in which they occurred — even though he was three years old at the time. Their entire staff seems afflicted by the same superficiality. Of course the two men showed some courage in demonstrating at the Olympics knowing what the reaction would be — but what did that courage serve? One cannot honor courage without accepting its context, which makes this sound as though ESPN endorsed the Panthers and their activities during this period.
Maybe ESPN should stick to sports instead of interpreting history.
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You might find this story about the third man on the podium, Peter Norman, interesting. This was written in the LA Times at the time of his death in 2006, though I can’t find the original. The Third Man on the Podium
okonkolo on July 29, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I don’t think pop culture is a very good argument in favour of this. A of it (I’m thinking commercial rap music here) is lowest common denominator dross and insofar as it encourages violent criminal behaviour achieves the opposite.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM
I still think he holds the Olympic record, 29 feet 2 1/2 inches…21 3/4 inches further then the world record, almost an unbelievable effort. He was so excited,he almost had to be hospitalized, he had a mild “seizure”. The current record holder said “Compared to this jump, we are as children,”.
The world record was broken, as you pointed out in 1991 by a couple of inches…Mike Powell, who still honored Beamon for his remarkable record.
right2bright on July 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Carmichael joined King’s (originally James Meridith’s) March Against Fear and broke ties with King’s movement. Not the other way around.
Carmichael saw King as “old-fashioned” and rejected his idea of true equality and peaceful co-existence. That’s why he gave the “black power” speech in Greenwood.
The train was already moving, but King was one of the best the movement had. I’ll celebrate King’s actions gladly and without hesitation; these clowns on the other hand who rode on the backs of giants…
darclon on July 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM
A of it=A lot of it
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM
That is an amazing story…I have never heard that told and I never even saw the “third” man. Shows that there are always a story within a story.
Thanks for that.
right2bright on July 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM
“I don’t think pop culture is a very good argument in favour of this.”
Agree, pop culture is largely sewage. Why anyone would want to claim credit for sewage?
Pop/rap/rock music is all juvenile and utterly predictable. There hasn’t been a new or slightly interesting strain of it for 30+ years, and it was never all that good to begin with.
And I grew up loving the stuff.
Now I listen to Vivaldi. Pop/rap/rock is all disposable, it’s fast food for the brain.
NoDonkey on July 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM
They represented separatists and that’s what the black power salute represented then and the movement that followed after King’s death stepped all over his Dream. King was for assimilation not segregation. The Black Power movement was just another form of segregation.
Pop culture.. would that be gangster rap you refer to?
I’m talking about personal responsibility .. as in being personally responsible for providing for those things necessary to live as a free responsible American citizen.
Texas Gal on July 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Thank you for that link.
baldilocks on July 29, 2008 at 2:15 PM
The “Black Power” movement resulted in the victim mentality and has done a great deal of damage to the black community! Government stepped in and helped with it’s “War on Poverty” and welfare programs which created massive unemployment. Until people take responsibility for their own lives and quit blaming someone else for their problems, they will remain victims forever! And there are plenty of peddlers of this message who have gotten rich selling it (Jesse Jackson, Obama, Rev. Wright etc.)
sabbott on July 29, 2008 at 2:16 PM
“Norman’s nephew, Matt Norman, is bringing the tale to the big screen with a movie called “Salute — The Peter Norman Story” that he hopes to get into the Sundance film festival. (Carlos said he has met with Imagine Entertainment regarding a movie about his and Smith’s saga. Through an intermediary, Imagine President Michael Rosenberg said he had not heard of the project.)”
Maybe ESPN is just trying to get a spot in the movie. When a university erects a statue after them and the 3rd man on the podium is not included but still attends and supports it, it’s easy for them to forget the backdrop to it all.
Sultry Beauty on July 29, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Jeered . . . without reservations.
rplat on July 29, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Giving away my age again, but I was an avid watcher of these particular Olympics. Saw this when it actually happened, live, not in a YouTube video. And yet, live or in a thousand photos since I can’t recall ever really noticing the third man. The upraised fists stole the show, so to speak, and he faded into the background. Thank you so much for the link. What a terrific story and I am ashamed that his victory then and humanity then and since never got the recognition it should have.
dustoffmom on July 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM
The Olympics are neither the time nor the place to express one’s personal views. These athletes are supposed to be the best of the best, and they represent our country on the athletic field much the same way our military represents our country. These athletes chose to deliberately misuse their winning status to insult the country they had been given the honor to represent. I’m sure their medal status would have afforded them plenty of opportunities after the fact to foist their beliefs on the public. Even if their cause was more palatable (fighting fascism, genocide, etc), it still would not have been acceptable.
I feel bad for the third medalist there, who has been all but forgotten because of the selfish actions of his countrymen. And no, I was not alive for this, heck, my mother was only 8 at the time. Apparently my grandparents shut the tv off with no explaination, and they never watched the Olympics again.
Anna on July 29, 2008 at 4:21 PM
I’d like to correct my mistake. Not fellow countryman, fellow athlete. My eyes are tired, I apologize.
Anna on July 29, 2008 at 4:22 PM
“The Olympics are neither the time nor the place to express one’s personal views.”
Exactly, neither are music concerts, awards shows, etc.
Virtually every time any dingbat celebrity gets in front of a mike these days, we have to hear them lecture us on politics.
These kind of gestures spawned what we’re seeing today.
NoDonkey on July 29, 2008 at 4:27 PM
The third man on the podium was Peter Norman who wore an OPHR badge in support of Smith and Carlos. Norman was opposed to his country’s “White Australia” policy.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Jeered.
Next question…
D2Boston on July 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM
It’s a shame to see how much the Black Power Movement and other Civil Rights Movements have been manipulated, demonized, and sometimes sanitized by white conservatives.
Nonfactor on July 29, 2008 at 4:51 PM
It’s nice to see that what I said earlier seems to be holding true. The Blank Panther Movement was and still is about black power over whites. Those who say otherwise I seriously doubt were old enough to know the difference in 1968.
moonsbreath on July 29, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I don’t agree that he should have worn the badge, but it is a shame that very few remember him or his Olympic medal. That’s due to the shenanagens of the other two.
Anna on July 29, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Who won the Arthur Ashe Courage Award in 2001–the 29 Islamofascists? They showed even more courage than Smith & Carlos.
jgapinoy on July 29, 2008 at 5:32 PM
IMO, the Olympic games are supposed to be the largest athletic event in the world, and not for political agendas. It’s neither the time, nor the proper place. Not then, nor should it be now, or ever!
byteshredder on July 29, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Though he died recently, he is well-known in Australia. Few track and field Olympic silver medalists from 40 years ago are easily named by the average person in the U.S. today.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM
dont know if its been pointed out yet, but a young george foreman won a gold medal at those olympics. and then grabbed an American flag and paraded it around the ring. he was showing how proud he was to be an American. he realized it wasnt possible in just any country for a poor black kid from the ghetto to end up representing his country in the olympics.
chasdal on July 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Jeered with a Capital J!!!!
AprilOrit on July 29, 2008 at 6:20 PM
What’s cool is how informal it is, left or right handed.
TheSitRep on July 29, 2008 at 6:35 PM
If Tommie Smith and John Carlos did that at the 1936 Berlin Olympics, Hitler would have understood them. All fascists and racists understand each other.
RobCon on July 29, 2008 at 6:54 PM
blacks were more likely to intimidate whites than the other way around.
By the end of the 1960s, it wasn’t Bull Connor’s fire hoses and dogs sicked on civil rights marchers. It was in your face black nationalism and Motor City’s Burning.
I’m not denying the history of racism (and other prejudices) in the US. I am saying that by 1968 there was a sea change.
rokemronnie on July 29, 2008 at 7:01 PM
No doubt, but eliminating the structures of legal segregation and bias that favored the terrorists and prevented their prosecution was a vital step in ending the reign of terror. By 1968, we were past a tipping point.
Fair point, but I really think that the horrific levels of lynching had been drastically reduced by the end of the 1960s.
Also, starting with Watts in 1965, the second half of the 60s saw urban (and mostly black) rioting that certainly could be perceived as intimidating.
1968 is a bit ironic from the perspective of a Detroiter. 1968 saw the King assassination and rioting in its aftermath. RFK was killed, and the left wing and the Chicago police made the Democratic convention that year a shambles. So 1968 is generally regarded as a bad year.
In the Detroit area, however, 1968 is when the Tigers won the American League pennant and World Series, which helped unify the community a year after the 12th Street riot ended up with 43 dead and National Guard tanks on the streets.
rokemronnie on July 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Hitler wasn’t all that into black athletes demonstrating superiority over their Aryan competitors.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 7:18 PM
You seriously misunderstand my position. Perhaps I should have used different wording. I think the CSA was an abomination and think that flying the Confederate battle flag is something akin to flying the rising son flag of Imperial Japan, or swastika of Nazi Germany. It’s inappropriate to fly the flag of a nation that waged war on the United States of America. I’ll make an exception for the UK because, were are, after all, a breakaway colony, but in general it’s bad form to honor those who tried to defeat the US in war.
rokemronnie on July 29, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Bejeebus folks; if you’re gonna berate the Especially Stupid Peoples Network, at least you could complain about something important!
They’ve taken the moniker of “Title Town” away from Green Bay, Wisconsin and arbitrarily bestowed it on Valdosta, Georgia.
Call someone important and complain, not necessarily your congressperson or senator!
Thank you!
J_Gocht on July 29, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I think they only had one pair of gloves at the track.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Well, at least we had big George Foreman waving the U.S. flag after he won the gold medal.
Johan Klaus on July 29, 2008 at 7:24 PM
It’s been said that without blacks and Jews, America would have no popular culture however, influencing a society is not the same as assimilation. Assimilation means absorbing the values of the culture. At its most extreme forms it can mean abandoning any other culture besides the one into which you are assimilating. It seems to me, though, that radical assimilation has not been a good fit for American culture because of the immigrant roots of most Americans, so most Americans embrace a milder form of assimilation where they maintain an ethnic identity in the context of accepting American values.
rokemronnie on July 29, 2008 at 7:27 PM
The flea market only sold them in pairs.
Johan Klaus on July 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM
If King had a flaw (besides personal flaws that every person has) it was accepting the support of those on the hard left for the civil rights movement even though that support was cynical and based in a desire to attack America, not a true appreciation for civil rights. It’s hard to believe that anyone who supported the Soviet Union could be a true supporter of civil rights.
rokemronnie on July 29, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Quite acting like you understand what the Civil Rights Movements were; you’re betraying your own ignorant affectations.
Nonfactor on July 29, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Interesting. Everytime I saw that photo the third man has always popped out at me like a sore thumb. I always assumed he was American which, given that its the Olympics, wasn’t really based on anything. I always wondered what he was thinking or how he reacted to the gesture.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Absolutely.
cjs1943 on July 29, 2008 at 7:49 PM
We have allow enemies of our country to seize our major metropolitan centers, and we intellectualize the nuances of their gang signals.
Sorry, but that’s a fact.
jeff_from_mpls on July 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM
As opposed to Eldridge Cleaver, the Black Panthers etc. Yes its a crying shame.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 7:52 PM
At that time, CHEERED.
ackrite55 on July 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Your screen name aptly describes the value of your opinion. Don’t resort to ad hominum just because you don’t want to address what I said.
I generally supported the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s. MLK’s genius was framing the movement as quintessentially American, that depriving blacks of civil rights was unAmerican. However, people are people and no movement is perfect. If I can recognize the grandeur of the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s while being honest about its shortcomings, that’s hardly ignorant.
rokemronnie on July 29, 2008 at 8:25 PM
The Black Power Movement was about equal (power) but separate (community) the Civil Rights Movement was about equal.. period.
Dr. King was about equality. It’s interesting to me that Dr. King’s Dream was about self-empowerment and the Black Power movement and the following creation of the Black Panthers were about power over peoples, not limited to self empowerment and that’s not unlike jihad (to improve one’s self) in Islam being manipulated from being a personal jihad of self empowerment to power over people.
Texas Gal on July 29, 2008 at 8:26 PM
The obligatory “replace black with white” comment. Classic. “Why can’t we have a white history month!1!!1!??”
I used to have mixed feelings about the salute, but after long discussions with family members and black friends on the issue I’m beginning to lean more towards “cheered”. There really is something that turns my stomach about these men being paraded around on an international stage while members of their own race are treated egregiously back home.
crr6 on July 29, 2008 at 9:08 PM
The contemptible duo should be ignored. Bad mannered little twits. They deserve nothing so much as the obscurity they would have long ago have dropped into except for their temper tantrum. The world has never truly succeeded in keeping politics out of the Olympics, but it is a desirable and worthy goal. Encouraging behavior like the black power salute just gets more of the same.
Orson Buggeigh on July 29, 2008 at 9:16 PM
They were not being paraded around on a stage. They were being awarded gold and bronze medals, respectively, at the Olympics.
They were being bestowed with the highest centuries-old honours of Western civillisation, a tradition from Greco-Roman times that predates the West.
If they felt that being awarded one of the highest deserved rewards that civillisation could bequeath them was an insult or somehow mocking of their dignity they could have refused the honour.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Also, crr6, the award ceremony was not a political event (they got their medals because they won) until they decided to turn it into one.
It turns your stomach?
You have no stomach.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 9:25 PM
ALL use of the Olypics as a platform for ALL Political Invective is inappropriate.
Tommy Smith was wrong
The Terrorists that Killed The Israeli Athletes were wrong
Carter was wrong
And everyone who would criticize Bush for his presence there is WRONG!
grtflmark on July 29, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Jeered, booed, jeered, booed, and jeered again.
SouthernGent on July 29, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Jeered, and Jeered.
Fact, and well said jeff.
4shoes on July 29, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Countries have looked to the games as a way of demonstrating the health of their society, or at least seen them as an opportunity for national pride. There are all sorts of championships in track & field that very few pay attention to, but the Olympics seem to matter because it’s not just the athlete there but his country as well.
I love sports but dislike hearing from athletes (especially today’s high-priced variety). At its best the Olympics should be free of political expression and provide a stage for the human desire to compete and excel. If every athlete expressed an opinion, medals ceremonies would be as tedious as the academy awards. Still, my impression is that what Smith and Carlos did was genuine and resonates today (in part because of the iconic photo) as a symbol of something that was very wrong with our country. It’s a credit to America that we addressed it, but Smith and Carlos and the parent and their grandparents were offered something less than the American dream.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 9:40 PM
This is one of the rare perfect images of the sickness of that era. Filled with hate and self-loathing, racism, anti-Americanism, and Marxism.
I love it for its purity, and especially today, with their soul-mate Obambi (the cowardly) pretending to carry their spirit forward, it is a wonderful reminder of who these people are who hide under his skirts. Ayers, Wright, Pflegmer, Alinsky – this was their movement.
Eff ‘em all.
Jaibones on July 29, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Hi,
I agree Smith and Carlos’ parents and grandparents were not in a position to pursue the American dream.
I object to the phrase “offered something less”. By any standard of human history they are blessed to just reside in 20th late century America even if they did not have the opportunity achieve their highest aspirations.
As for Smith and Carlos themselves they lived the American dream and if while I can understand how they felt emotionally at their alienation I’m not impressed by their continued self-justification against a country which not only created the conditions for their success but has since bent over backwards to address every racial grievance known to (black) man.
I’m especially annoyed at crr6’s implication that they were somehow humiliated by being paraded around on the Olympic podium. The fact is they duly received one of the highest honours of their civillisation and not only did they rebel against it but they view themselves as cultural heroes for their implicit rejection of that honour while licenscing idiots like crr6 to sh** all over our civillisation.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I’d agree that materially Smith and Carlos grew up far better off than many through out history. I have ancestors who left Ireland in the 1800’s and I’m sure their lives and their ancestors lives were tough, largely due to the cruelty of the Brits.
Materially Smith and Carlos had little to complain about. Yet they had been born at a time when segregatation laws still treated blacks as a lower class citizen. That, and the events of 1968, would seem to cause some black men to see the flag and hear the anthem and feel differently than a white man who had always enjoyed the liberty of a nation where “all men are created equal”. The founders went to war against a king because of taxation without representation. A symbolic gesture in 1968 by two black athletes doesn’t seem disproportionate to the compromises on liberty endured by black people.
Things are much different 40 years later and I agree that hyper sensitivity to racial grievances have become tedious overkill.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Fair enough.
aengus on July 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I have to thank you again for your work here on this thread.
baldilocks on July 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM
When I worked in public education, one of my coworkers shared with the entire staff at a meeting a slideshow of her daughter’s visit to the Jena 6 rally, which included some shots of her posing with members of the New Black Panther Party. She was laughing about it. I don’t think her intent was malicious in any way but still, come on.
Nobody said jack sh!t. i suppose had I presented pics of my daughter posing with the Klan, that would have been okay too.
nobody said anything because people have learned not to.
Metro on July 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Of course, thank you. I enjoyed reading through your blog.
dedalus on July 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I can’t really identify with the actions of those two guys but then I don’t belong to a race that was sprayed down with hoses, attacked by police dogs, or hunted down and lynched by the clan.
Let’s face it, we’d likely turn militant too in such circumstances.
That doesn’t mean I condone the killing of police officers. I just understand why it happened and it didn’t happen because police were generally treating blacks the same as whites back in those days.
Benaiah on July 30, 2008 at 12:54 AM
This goes back, and isn’t something that should be jeered, or cheered. When Blacks were in charge of the idea of equality for blacks, true equality. They called it Black Pride, Black Power, a proud black man, a beautiful black woman. That lasted until the late 1980’s, when the movement was taken over by white liberals from the ivy league. Then it became the travesty of African-American. The term black became racist, and all discussions of pride, and black is beautiful ended.
True equality may not have been reached yet, but it’s certainly a long way from this historic incident, which really shocked and surprised a nation. It did lead to a number of discussions, and was a huge issue to talk about. Too bad we’re beyond talking openly about issues anymore. Well, most of us are, I’m too politically incorrect to worry about what someone might think. I discuss race fairly frequently at work. My black co-workers, and friends, all know that I am way too brutally honest to be racist. They also know I detest the lie of African hyphen American. They know why too. I wrote about it here.
Snake307 on July 30, 2008 at 3:00 AM
They dissed my country while cashing in
Compare this to the award ESPN gave Rush Limbaugh who was then doing football comments on ESPN:
From the ESPN web site about accepting Rush Limbaugh’s resignation
Limbaugh had said of McNab on the Sunday show:
Three days later Limbaugh resigned and Wednesday night,
Seems even handed
entagor on July 30, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Did Tommie and John thump their chest, throw gang signs, call the women bitches an hoes?
No, they stood in silent protest over what was happening in the U.S. and Norman from Australia supported them.
Avery Brundage kept JEWS off the 1936 Olympic 400 relay team so as not to insult Hitler, Marty Glickman being one.
He was pro-Nazi and that means that the Olympic Committees that kept electing him obviously didn’t think “that Nazi thing was so bad” And he let politics speak for him
Courage is standing up in the face of adversity. The KNEW they were going to take heat for what they did and they stood up.
Remember people, this was a time when most of your parents would have left the swimming pool if a NEGRO was going to jump in,too.
originalpechanga on July 30, 2008 at 12:51 PM
+1
macblanegirl on July 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Many of you seem to be looking at this through today’s eyes.
macblanegirl on July 30, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Jeered, booed, hissed, and given the rigid digit with both hands.
It seems a good number of HA posters have forgotten about the organization these two athletes were a part of. That little ’salute’ of theirs is the sign of the Black Panthers; a black supremacy group/street gang for grown-ups, and their motto was “F*** the pigs!!! (police)”.
These were not part of some noble-hearted civil rights bunch. Among other things the Panthers engaged in shootouts with the police (using automatic weapons), heartily support Islam, and threatened a 64 year old Texas man who shot two of their number trying to burglarize his house. (but brave Texans backed him up: http://tinyurl.com/5atsnr )
Bottom line is that these two screwballs are misusing the Olympics for attention-whoring for an unsavory group.
Dark-Star on July 31, 2008 at 9:20 AM
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