How Important Was the Surge, hallowed be it’s name? Ten Iraq experts weigh in on the effectiveness of the surge, hallowed by it’s name

MB4 on July 29, 2008 at 6:17 PM

The header on that page says “Liberal Intelligence”. That’s as far as I was able to read before I broke out laughing. The Surge worked beautifully and was absolutely necessary, no matter what some liberals might say.

If you are referring to Sunni al-Qaeda in Iraq (aka al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, aka AQI), which have probably never numbered more than a few thousand, I think that you have vastly overestimating their abilities.

MB4 on July 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM

My God! MB4, give it up already.

If the AQ numbered only a few thousand, Obama and the whole Democrats/liberals did not think US forces (with allies) can defeat a few thousands? What are they (i.e., AQ), superman each and every one of them?

Methinks you have vastly UNDER-estimated our ability.

Read it. Clearly the surge was a spectacular success. The only disagreements are quibbles.

jl on July 29, 2008 at 9:25 PM

You must have been wearing special glasses when you read it.

R U Cereal? How many hijackers were there on 9/11? And what AZCoyote asked.

Buy Danish on July 29, 2008 at 6:50 PM

If memory serves, it was 19 who came to the U.S. on visas mainly. I believe that 14 were from our President’s “dear friend” Saudi Arabia.

Obama on the surge, November 2006: No Hope for the Iraqis

ObamaFuhrer is the typical running scared Democrat, that doesn’t know when to stick it in, or when to pull it out! /Sarcasm

And yes, dead wrong when it matters

Now that he is finally correct in the narrow sense that it is appropriate to continue to withdraw our forces from Iraq, Obama would have us believe that he was right all along.

Simple McCain ad: “Even a broken clock is right twice a day.”

Apparently Obama thinks we can break the walls down everywhere in the world – we can repair the world and makes the waters recede – as long as part of that world doesn’t include Iraq.

The only possible explanation for this blatant inconsistency is US electoral politics. The Left wanted (and wants) us to abandon Iraq and Obama needed – and needs – their support.

How Important Was the Surge, hallowed be it’s name? Ten Iraq experts weigh in on the effectiveness of the surge, hallowed by it’s name

MB4 on July 29, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Read it. Clearly the surge was a spectacular success. The only disagreements are quibbles.

Dreams of democracy and hopes for a perfect government are now just that – dreams and hopes.

Why is he knocking “hope”? Other than “Change”, isn’t “Hope” the reason he wants us to vote for him? Setting aside the emptiness of his entire campaign and slogans for a moment… just think about that. He’s blasting “hope”, but he’s f-ing Mr. Hope. He wrote a book called “The Audacity of Hope”. Where did your audacity go brotha? To take it a step further, he knocked “Dreams” in that same sentence. Remember the title of his other book? “Dreams of my father”. What a dumbass.

If McCain and the RNC can take advantage of this, it would be HUGE!

“I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it’s Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds.”

Now it looks as if they have launched stubbornzilla, a candidate who will not admit to even obvious blunders.

Missed this gem but just posted it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXjWk3Y8Bo

The first is that we should be more modest in our belief that we can impose democracy on a country through military force. In the past, it has been movements for freedom from within tyrannical regimes that have led to flourishing democracies; movements that continue today. This doesn’t mean abandoning our values and ideals; wherever we can, it’s in our interest to help foster democracy through the diplomatic and economic resources at our disposal. But even as we provide such help, we should be clear that the institutions of democracy – free markets, a free press, a strong civil society – cannot be built overnight, and they cannot be built at the end of a barrel of a gun. And so we must realize that the freedoms FDR once spoke of – especially freedom from want and freedom from fear – do not just come from deposing a tyrant and handing out ballots; they are only realized once the personal and material security of a people is ensured as well.

Who gave THEM the hope for personal security and a stable government? Not the audacious hope-monger, but General Petraeus and his men. Now THAT’s change we can believe in.

A few Tuesdays ago, the American people embraced this seriousness with regards to America’s policy in Iraq. Americans were originally persuaded by the President to go to war in part because of the threat of weapons of mass destruction, and in part because they were told that it would help reduce the threat of international terrorism.

Neither turned out to be true. And now, after three long years of watching the same back and forth in Washington, the American people have sent a clear message that the days of using the war on terror as a political football are over. That policy-by-slogan will no longer pass as an acceptable form of debate in this country. “Mission Accomplished,” “cut and run,” “stay the course” – the American people have determined that all these phrases have become meaningless in the face of a conflict that grows more deadly and chaotic with each passing day – a conflict that has only increased the terrorist threat it was supposed to help contain.

But it will not be easy. For the fact is that there are no good options left in this war. There are no options that do not carry significant risks. And so the question is not whether there is some magic formula for success, or guarantee against failure, in Iraq. Rather, the question is what strategies, imperfect though they may be, are most likely to achieve the best outcome in Iraq, one that will ultimately put us on a more effective course to deal with international terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and other critical threats to our security.

Dont tell me words dont matter Obama !

William Amos,

It looks like the link to your page up in the original post isn’t working anymore. Did traffic put your blog out of action, or could there be a problem with the link?

forest on July 29, 2008 at 7:15 PM

Been having lots of problems directly linking to posts on my blog. I can however send you directly to the blog home page.

My blog here