Evangelicals warn McCain: Just say no to Mitt
posted at 10:50 am on July 29, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We … knew this already, yes? After 16 months of campaign coverage, I can’t tell new news anymore from old news that’s been recycled and presented as new news. But I’m reasonably sure this qualifies for category two.
More news breaking at this hour: It seems Mike “Christian Leader” Huckabee’s supporters are the most adamantly anti-Mitt.
[Evangelical leaders] say Mr. Romney lacks trust on issues such as outlawing abortion and opposing same-sex marriage and because he is a Mormon. Opposition is particularly powerful among those who supported former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee in the Republican presidential primaries earlier this year…
Other well-placed Christian conservatives say that although many evangelical leaders could accept and work for a McCain-Romney ticket, Mr. Huckabee’s supporters tend to be “rabid” in their views against Mr. Romney because of his faith: They do not regard Mormonism as a Christian denomination…
In conversations with The Times, several Republican officials close to the McCain campaign also played down anti-Romney sentiment among conservative evangelicals. They cited an online poll of evangelicals by 2000 presidential primary candidate Gary Bauer that found Mr. Romney is the top vice-presidential choice of born-again Christians…
An evangelical leader who, though he has close ties to Mr. McCain, confided to The Times that polling suggests that putting Mr. Romney on the ticket likely would cost Mr. McCain 7 percent to 10 percent of the evangelical vote - enough to spell defeat for Mr. McCain in a close race with Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee.
Seven to 10 percent isn’t something McCain can afford to be cavalier about, needless to say, even with most prominent Christian leaders already on board. This makes twice that Huck and his fans have managed to thwart Romney’s ambitions; can’t wait for 2012.
If you’re wondering whether Pawlenty earns the all-important Good Evangelical Seal of Approval, no worries: He’s golden, and not just on abortion either.
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I am really getting sick of these TV evangelicals. I never thought I would say that but it’s true. They are mormon bigots and need to be ignored.
David in ATL on July 29, 2008 at 10:54 AM
So what’s next? In the unlikely event that McCain wins the election, will Huckabee’s supporters come out against Romney for Secretary of the Treasury?
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 10:54 AM
As an Evangelical, this disgusts me. They are becoming the nutroots of the right.
I still think McCain’s best choice is Sarah Palin.
stenwin77 on July 29, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Romney’s biggest problem (with McCain) has nothing to do with religion. Their personalities don’t click for some reason. If McCain picks Romney, then you’ll know it was really McCain’s pollster who picked Romney.
RBMN on July 29, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Tru dat, playa.
We need the “anyone but another white guy” Veep choice.
Palin has 80% approval rating in AK. Another Veep candidates that high?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 29, 2008 at 10:56 AM
So - they would vote for Obama instead? I mean, we’re all making compromises with McCain, they should too.
matd on July 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Romney seems like a good guy. I loathe this religious hatred toward Mormons who are Christ-loving people.
I personally would love McCain to choose Palin. But if he chooses Romney, I am content with that as well.
jencab on July 29, 2008 at 10:59 AM
THIS irritates me. Religious bigotry like this on the conservative side makes me want to scream. I don’t care for Mormonism, but it is mainstream enough so that a book of Mormon is placed in every hotel room across the country. All of the Mormons I know are smart, accomplished, fine people. Mitt is a smart, accomplished, fine man.
As a Christian person, what bothered me was Huckabee using the cross (sorry, the bookcase) as a “subliminal” political tool in a political ad. Jerk.
BigD on July 29, 2008 at 11:00 AM
I am so tired of religon and who is what. I am not voting on religon and I never have.
Who the hell cares?
I am more worried about who would do better in the long run, wether it be my Gov going Veep… or someone else.
upinak on July 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Sorry folks, if you believe in the existence of more than one God you’re not a Christian despite what name you may give yourself.
I’d vote for McCain/Romney and I believe the ticket would win. But if Johnny Boy wants to excite the core of the party he needs a different pick.
Mojave Mark on July 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Meh.
I’m sick and tired of fools in high places telling me what to think.
I don’t accept it when Hollyweird nitwits say “Vote Lib”.
I don’t accept it when Father Pfleger says “Vote Lib”.
Why should I accept it when these knuckleheads say “Don’t vote Mitt”?
Mew
acat on July 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM
If they are gonna throw a fit about Mitt, it’s time for a dog in that manger. So fine, if it won’t be Mitt, this should rule out Huckabee completely.
I’m just sick of this dwama, and tired of people talking down other candidates in hopes of boosting their own. If your candidate were all that, there would be no need to go negative.
Sekhmet on July 29, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Ahh, so the hardcore Evangelicals don’t want a Mormon VP because in their view he isn’t a Christian.
Well, isn’t that charmingly bigoted.
Dave Rywall on July 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM
This just moved Romney up the ladder…”evangelist” leaders should learn to do one thing, and only one thing…teach the word of God.
Teach the bible, not a political platform…fools should be run out of the pulpit.
It is simple, religion and politics do not mesh, they are two different ideals, with different goals and objectives.
You can’t serve to masters, they have enough problem within their congregations.
God didn’t “choose” you to tell people who to vote for. Jesus never instructed his followers to spread the “political” word.
My choice is still Palin, but this makes Romney a close second.
right2bright on July 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM
McCain could run with Abraham Lincoln as his VP and one thing would still be true…
It’s JOHN McCAIN..
The man is a lousy candidate.
jake-the-goose on July 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Having lived in North Carolina for a good chunk of my life, I know a lot of Evangelicals. I find it insulting that both you and the Washington Times choose the headline “Evangelicals Warn McCain” as opposed to “Some Evangelicals Warn McCain”, “Some Small Groups of Huckabee Supporters Warn McCain”, or “Small Numbers of Bigots that Call Themselves Evangelicals Warn McCain”.
So why did you bother posting it?
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:07 AM
The specific Mormons who offended me were the ones (seen in the blog comments about six or eight months ago) who believed that every slight of Mitt Romney was due to some rampant religious bigotry against Mormons. Sometimes it was, but 95% of the time it was not. When people get so rabidly defensive, about nothing, it just becomes creepy. Mitt’s Mormonism was not an issue for him because he always put it in the proper perspective, and wasn’t defensive about it.
RBMN on July 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Bigots should be shown the door. I can’t stand ‘em.
RushBaby on July 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Seven to ten percent ain’t peanuts.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Pawlenty might be able to bring in Evangelical voters, but he needs to back out of the church of Al Gore. If McCain is running on a platform of domestic oil drilling and nuclear power plants, cap-and-trade needs to be thrown under the bus, and is Pawlenty willing to do it?
Then again, if Obama can back out of the church of Jeremiah Wright for political convenience, surely Pawlenty can back out on Al Gore…
Steve Z on July 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Nothing but a bunch of pulpit bullies. Using their “
Christchrist” as a weapon…disgusting.right2bright on July 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I’m really getting sick of the religious bigotry on our side. I expect this from the left, but not from us (this goes for more than bigotry towards Mormonism. If I hear the phrase “I’m a recovering Catholic” one more time I’m going to punch someone).
The Mormon’s I’ve met are good, kind, caring, family-oriented people who I would be proud to associate with. I don’t agree with their religion, but they’re not advocating ripping babys out of the womb or flying airplaines into buildings.
Keep it up, Evangelicles and stay home if Romney is on the ticket because you don’t want him for Veep. Have your hissy-fit, but remember the old saying - “Be careful what you wish for.”
crazy_legs on July 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM
How do ya like this? If the bigots get their way and McCain picks Huckabee, I can 100% guarantee that my family and I won’t be voting for McCain. And I can guarantee that you will be losing a lot more votes than these bigots if you do end up picking Huckabee.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Attention evangelicals: You are NOT voting for deacon or elder! What is wrong with you bigoted jerks? Stop this nonsense RIGHT FREAKING NOW. Man, I’m getting sick of this anti-Mitt garbage.
JustTruth101 on July 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM
I’m with you.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:13 AM
With a president barry and an overwhelmingly democrat controlled congress, what makes you believe that there will be an election in 2012?
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2008 at 11:13 AM
What p155es me off is that a lot of the Romney-bashing is done in hopes of boosting Huck’s chances. The only way to put a stop to this crap is to make it clear that bashing Romney will also hurt Huckabee’s chances.
Sekhmet on July 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM
They don’t like Mitt because he’s a mormon they are really gonna love what harry reid, facsist and mormon, will be doing to them probably for the rest of thier lifetimes.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2008 at 11:16 AM
And who cited that “polling”. Oh yeah, another “Evangelical leader”. You do understand that “Evangelical leader” translates to “one of the attention crazy bigot Huckabee people” in anti-Mitt doublespeak, right? These people don’t speak for anyone but themselves.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Having lived in North Carolina for a good chunk of my life, I know a lot of Evangelicals. I find it insulting that both you and the Washington Times choose the headline “Evangelicals Warn McCain” as opposed to “Some Evangelicals Warn McCain”, “Some Small Groups of Huckabee Supporters Warn McCain”, or “Small Numbers of Bigots that Call Themselves Evangelicals Warn McCain”.
Seven to ten percent ain’t peanuts.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM
—–
Slub,
Based on the primaries, NC is going to Obambi.
Mew
acat on July 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Isn’t it terrific that we have groups on the right bitching about Mitt’s religion while the opposition overlooks and masks Obama’s ‘church’ affiliation?
Sometimes I wonder if conservatives are not as insane as the left.
Mitt would be brilliant as Veep if given his own portfolio, i.e. domestic economic issues. He could articulate the message that Americans need to hear. He could help to educate them.
Huckabee? Huck for anything is repulsive. Get him back to his pulpit where he can shuck and jive for anyone who wants to listen. I’m not interested.
Cody1991 on July 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Sorry folks, it’s not about the VP pick! About 10 minutes after the announcement is made it will be forgotten. The job “isn’t worth a warm bucket of spit”! It’s about McCain and that’s the problem! He just might win because Obama is such a Dill Weed but McAmnesty isn’t doing anything on his own to help his cause! Picking a middle aged white guy isn’t going to help!
sabbott on July 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM
I agree, but the evangelical leader who was quoted on that poll is a McCain supporter. I think the McCain campaign is probably genuinely nervous about that possibility, and that will likely affect who the veep pick is.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM
We can’t be. If Barry O wins and he gets his way, Iran will probably have either wiped us of the face of the earth or taken us over and forced us to live under sharia by the time 2012 comes around. I’m only half joking.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:19 AM
A large part of McCain’s reputation is built on the fact that he did not accept early release from that Vietnamese prison. I bet he looks at Romney and sees someone who would have been glad to take that deal to make it to the front of the line.
Big S on July 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Let’s be clear about something here. Not ONE of the evangelicals quoted said ANYTHING about an anti-mormon bias…to the contrary, in fact…one specifically stated it was NOT because of his faith that evangelicals oppose him.
So quit trying to imply something that isn’t there.
The only Mormon-bias comes from the columnist as he implies that those who oppose the flip-flopping liberal are bigots.
Again, he doesn’t quote a single individual, though he make implications by suggesting it:
“Other well-placed Christian conservatives say that although many evangelical leaders could accept and work for a McCain-Romney ticket, Mr. Huckabee’s supporters tend to be “rabid” in their views against Mr. Romney because of his faith: They do not regard Mormonism as a Christian denomination.”
We don’t care what faith he practices. We care that he is NOT a conservative!
Al-Ozarka on July 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Be quiet bigoted Evangelicals. You’re embarrassing the rest of us Christians!
terryannonline on July 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I love Sarah Palin too, but her name has never been bandied about outside the blogosophere. That suggests to me that she turned down the campaign or she failed vetting early. It isn’t happening, guys. :(
And of course Christian conservatives are going to oppose Romney. He’s flip-flopped on every issue of importance to them. Further, Romney is a former Mormon leader, and because the Mormon church authorizes evangelizing-by-deception (the “milk before meat” doctrine), they’re going to be very suspicious of what he might do if elected. I’m not an evangelical Christian and so this stuff isn’t important to me.
I think Romney is a bad choice. The question is whether Pawlenty is a better choice. Ed and the PowerLine people seem to like him. What do we know about him? Does he bring Wisconsin or Minnesota into play this year? Does he piss off any Republican or independent groups? Any potential scandals or closet skeletons?
Outlander on July 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I think you should TM that.
Dead Hand Control on July 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Hulkamania = Train, Say Your Prayers, and Take Your Vitamins
Huckamania = Say Your Prayers…….that a Mormon doesn’t serve in government
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Har! You believe MSM hype. You are very naive. If NC goes to Obama, I will personally change my user name to “I Love Teh Hopenchange”. It just isn’t going to happen. RCP has an average of McCain being up by four, but I’d really like to see the poll numbers among people that will actually bother to show up on election day. He’s probably up by 6 or 7 among them.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM
First of, being a mccain supporter doesn’t actually impress me. Second, how do you know this guy isn’t a huckster backer and pulling that 7-10% out of his butt.
If evangelicals hate mormons enough not to vote for Mitt and are fine with a president who believes aborted babies that survive should be thrown in a bucket and left to die then so be it. Let them go, they’re insane anyway.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2008 at 11:23 AM
I hope he picks flip flop Mitt the fearless defender of abortions and the militant homosexual agenda.
Hey he said he will be a bigger defender of the militant gay agenda and abortion on demand than Ted Kennedy himself.
He’s a real man of integrity who connects with the average blue collar voter…not only will he drive away the entire base of the republican party(evangelicals) he can really do a great job of presenting the image of the republican party as the party of aloof,heartless billionaires and racists to boot(after the MSM posts documentary after documentary of mormon racism against blacks as dictated by the LDS scriptures)
SaintOlaf on July 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM
If you consider Mike Huckabee the gold standard of Conservatism by which all other conservatives are judged…I doubt that Mitt or most of the other folks in this thread would make the cut.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Then he went on to code-word his opposition by saying “Romney is not a thoroughgoing evangelical.” Why mention that?
Hmmm…
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM
You’re right. As of today, she’s officially under investigation for abusing her power as Governor. Maybe she’ll be cleared of all wrongdoing, but it’s highly unlikely to happen before the convention. McCain can’t have that following him around on the campaign trail, especially since “abuse of power” has been one of the Democrats’ most successful knocks on the Bush administration, at least as far as public opinion goes.
Big S on July 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM
I have my disagreements with Gary Bauer, but he did endorse McCain and he’s one of the more politically savvy (and pragmatic) evangelical leaders. He may disagree with McCain, but understands that Obama would be worse.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM
As a practicing Catholic, I’m smiling at this moment. However, I am loathe to vote for McCain, but I will because I now see the importance. This particular issue will not sway McCain, I don’t think. I have no animus towards Pawlenty but just am not sure he does us any favors. Romney is a good choice and I guess risk is a necessity. Lord knows, I’m voting for McCain….. that IS risk!
MNDavenotPC on July 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM
AP, if this kind of thing doesn’t warrant dropping down the ban hammer, I don’t know what does.
From your Terms of Use:
From SaintOlaf’s comment:
If calling someone a racist isn’t libelous, I don’t know what is.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM
“Then he went on to code-word his opposition by saying “Romney is not a thoroughgoing evangelical. Slublog
Neither was Ronald Reagan.
From what I’ve heard…RR even consulted astrologers.
But evangelicals supported him in droves!
Because…he was a conservative.
Not so, Flip Romney.
Al-Ozarka on July 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Because of course, Mitt doesn’t love Jesus in the proper way.
Congratulations, evangelicals, and especially Huck supporters - you’ve made yourselves looks like completely intolerant knuckle-dragging azsholes.
(with due apologies of course to those evangelicals who don’t feel the same).
thirteen28 on July 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM
That polling didn’t come from Gary Bauer. Read it again.
It came from “an evangelical leader”. I’m not translating that from anti-Mitt doublespeak again.
malan89 on July 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM
And they supported Huckabee in droves…because he was a “Christian Leader.” Huckabee is more populist than conservative. Nothing wrong with that, but there is a difference.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Ah, my mistake. Still, Bauer is a pretty pragmatic guy who has spent a lot of time trying to get evangelicals to support McCain and the GOP this year.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Mitt Romney Mormon Bashing Part Deux,eh!
BREAKING NEWS:
The news media would like to remind some of you,
and you know who you are,that as a courtesy to voters,
and you voters know who you are,that its been two months
since we last besmirched and bashed Mitt on his religion!
Stay tuned next month,for another reminder,in case it
slips your radar,and you know who you are,that Mitt is
still a Mormon!———————-(Snark!):)
canopfor on July 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Also, Reagan didn’t win because of evangelicals or conservatives, but because he appealed to the political center as well.
Big S on July 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM
During the primary,I would ask fellow Christians who were having issues with him being a Mormon how it would affect his ability to govern the nation. I know that I was able to convince one of my friends to vote for Romney instead of Huckabee. What people who have an issue with the whole Mormonism thing have to ask themselves, is Romney being a Mormon going to have any impact on how he’d do as VP then if he was Baptist or Lutheran?
smithinmich on July 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM
What’s the problem? i said I would gladly support the flip flopper…I think he’s a real progressive.
At the very least we don’t have to worry about him sticking to his guns on some crazy issue…the man has no beliefs or integrity.
SaintOlaf on July 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM
As an Evangelical, this disgusts me. They are becoming the nutroots of the right.
stenwin77 on July 29, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Same feelings here.
matthewbit07 on July 29, 2008 at 11:33 AM
“Nothing wrong with that, but there is a difference.” Slublog
Huckabee conservatism versus Romney conservatism.
There IS a difference!
Al-Ozarka on July 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM
“…is Romney being a Mormon going to have any impact on how he’d do as VP then if he was Baptist or Lutheran?”
No, but his liberal record will sure have an impact.
Al-Ozarka on July 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Sure there is. One of them was highly criticized for his shifting policy positions, the other was not.
Slublog on July 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM
“Also, Reagan didn’t win because of evangelicals or conservatives, but because he appealed to the political center as well.” - Big S
LOL!
Right!
Al-Ozarka on July 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM
I’m an evangelical Christian. I believe that, even though Mormons worship Christ, they don’t qualify as a true Christian denomination, because of other factors within their religion. I would also not hesitate to vote for Romney. I’m not voting for a Messiah, I’m voting for a President and Vice President. Religion has little to nothing to do with it. As long as they aren’t actively anti-Christian, that aspect matters little to me.
Buford Gooch on July 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM
DOG IN THE MANGER guys.
If the Huckabots are going to throw fits about Romney–fine, Romney’s not the running mate—and neither is Huckabee.
Sekhmet on July 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Why is diversity only about being black or a homosexual and not about religion?
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM
I think one of the so-called “scandals” is that she pushed for an investigation of a state police officer who called members of her family and threatened to shoot and kill her father if he didn’t butt out of the officer’s domestic affairs. Supposedly, that constituted a misuse of Palin’s office. The “scandal” is as defined by her political opponents.
RBMN on July 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM
BTW, I’m also disgusted with others who call themselves Christian who would refuse to vote for someone because of his or her religion. I would have no problem voting for a Hindu or Buddhist.
Buford Gooch on July 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Doesn’t matter. It took six grand juries in Austin freakin Texas to get DeLay indicted.
Sekhmet on July 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM
So, for these wonderful “evangelicals”, any jew is off the table because jews aint christians either???
Huckabee supporters = a watered down version of Hitler.
Yes, the ol Hitler insult…. :)
Roger Waters on July 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM
At least he won’t give those hard answers like Mccain…Romney will say or do anything he thinks will get him that raw,unbridled power!
He’s like the Barack Hussein Obama of the right!
No one knows what either of their real agendas are…(and hopefully we never will, as romney will never be picked as he is total suicide for mccain and mccain knows it.)
SaintOlaf on July 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM
To be against Mitt for his faith is not acceptable. To be against Mitt because he is Flipper and a little too good at being a chameleon is acceptable. Count me in the latter.
Valiant on July 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM
This may surprise you, but Reagan did not win as a champion of “conservative values” (whatever those are), but on the economy (taxes) and the Cold War. Unsurprisingly, these are the same kinds of issues that helped Bush in 2004. Nobody outside right-wing blogs remembers Reagan for his positions on abortion, gay rights, or other “culture war” issues. The idea that there is a hidden majority of conservatives waiting quietly for their leader is a myth propagated by conservatives out of political vanity.
Big S on July 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM
So fine, if you want a guarantee it won’t be Mitt, you can get one as long as you agree that this will also torpedo Huck’s chances. Agreed?
Sekhmet on July 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Also, Reagan didn’t win because of evangelicals or conservatives, but because he appealed to the political center as well.
Big S on July 29, 2008
Yep, but don’t tell the evangelicals that.
Krydor on July 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Any time I hear the phrase ‘evangelical’ to identify a group of people, I know that it is going to be a bigoted bias against Christians with social conservative views.
The reason these ‘evangelicals’ are against Romney is because he is pro-abortion, illegal immigration, anti-gun, provided a universal health care program that is bankrupting the state.
They use the term ‘evangelical’ because they want you to think ‘bigot against Mormon’. When in fact, they are not against him because he is a Mormon. They are against him because he turned down an endorsement of a pro-life group when he was running for governor.
Just because Laura Ingraham called him a ‘conservative’s conservative’ doesn’t make it so.
Of course, if you want to bash Christians, just call them ‘evangelical’ and bash away - because they must just be bigots. If Romney were Baptist with those positions, they still wouldn’t like him. . . but that doesn’t sell papers, get viewers, or solicit comments as well as saying ‘Wow, I can’t believe people are so bigoted against Mormons’.
ThackerAgency on July 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Really there are only two choices that could help win the election for Mccain:
1. Mike Huckabee
2. Ron Paul
Think about it for a second before you criticize.
SaintOlaf on July 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Romney on the ticket would excite me to donate, volunteer, and get involved in the campaign locally. It makes me sick these Huckabee supporters and their negative intimidations.
suzieviews on July 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Some of Mitt’s “friends,” by their hyper-sensitive attitude, looking for religious bigotry everywhere (not seeing just simple disagreement) are hurting Mitt–not helping him.
RBMN on July 29, 2008 at 11:51 AM
That is a scandal?!? I can’t believe this!
“Abuse of power”, my foot!
newton on July 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM
I know and actually work with a few of the “rabid” anti Romney people and they are an odd group. Not one of them will say it is about his religion but more about not trusting him on his abortion stance. The problem is they are far more vitriolic against him than other candidates with similar issues on abortion. They have also all but admitted that Huckabee stayed in just to make sure they kept Romney out. All in all it has been a severely disappointing couple of months for me as I watched some people I greatly respected turn into petty bigots right before my eyes.
bj1126 on July 29, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Nope, sorry Lovsie—if you want to torpedo Mitt, Huck goes down as well, and Ron Paul flopped in the primaries because his faceless minions made a lot more noise online than they could muster in real life.
Sekhmet on July 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM
I’m not voting for the liberal, McCain, anyway.
Don’t matter who the VP pick is.
Al-Ozarka on July 29, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Um… evangelicals aren’t the “entire base of the republican party” last time I checked…
crazy_legs on July 29, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I thought about your statement for two seconds. The first second was about huckster and paul, the second second was about how you are not only a hate filled,fanatical psychotic but that you are not very smart either.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2008 at 11:58 AM
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They are barry voters anyway.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2008 at 11:59 AM
You’re right…the less than 2% of this country that are atheists are the base of the republican party. Not the 78% of this country that are Christians.
We should pander to the anyone but Christians because that is a smart idea.
SaintOlaf on July 29, 2008 at 12:00 PM
You are hate-filled.
jgapinoy on July 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Don’t need to think about it because both are insanely laughable.
Did they put extra PCP in your weed this morning?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 29, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Perfect, nothing else to add!
Again, perfect and nothing else to add!
Branch Rickey on July 29, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Thanks, AP, for doing your part every day (creationism, atheism, Mormonism) to unite the GOP.
The hits keep coming.
jgapinoy on July 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM
bj, changing your stance because of a change in a situation is one thing. But I can’t imagine someone disowning an endorsement of a pro-life organization on live TV during a governor’s debate. . . and then changing back within 5 years and wanting those endorsements.
That You Tube clip did it for me. I’m actually OK if you believe killing babies is a right - I vehemently disagree, but if you say it, you must believe it.
Romney just destroyed any credibility he might have when he said, I didn’t ask for nor do I accept the endorsement of a pro-life group. Huckabee would never do that (but don’t read this as coming from someone who would support Huckabee either). Most pro-life people would gladly accept the endorsement of a pro-life organization.
It would be like Obama disowning a Union endorsement. What would unions think? Romney is a great politician, he has a great family, and I’m sure he’s a great fellow.
But his problem is his lack of conviction on things that should be important.
ThackerAgency on July 29, 2008 at 12:05 PM
I too blame AP for all that is wrong with the GOP today. His influence is profound and must not be underestimated.
Dead Hand Control on July 29, 2008 at 12:06 PM
That’s not what I said and you know it.
crazy_legs on July 29, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Mormons don’t refuse to vote for evangelicals. Why do evangelicals refuse a Mormon?
(Mormon hostility towards Huckabee did not exist prior to his coded anti-Mormon remarks- essentially Mormons refuse to vote for Huckabee because he promotes bigotry against Mormons, not because he’s evangelical.)
Sackett on July 29, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I think you’re hilarious…unintentionally.
jgapinoy on July 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Reprise from the other headline, I am sick of Allapundit’s quest of hatred against Romney here.
I never thought in my lifetime I could be driven not to vote in a Presidential election, but sometime principles prevail. Romney is as good as it gets in a candidate, and his treatment here is a disgrace.
You guys look like petty bullies on the playground.
eaglesdontflock on July 29, 2008 at 12:12 PM
It’s not hostility.
Some evangelicals think that a famous Mormon would give credibility to un-biblical beliefs that claim to be Christian, causing confusion.
The hostility is directed at evangelicals.
jgapinoy on July 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM
The 78% (or whatever supermajority it is) are not “Christian” in the same way that many here might think. A large proportion were probably raised in a generally Christian tradition, may celebrate Christmas, might go to church on Christmas or Easter, know the words to a few carols, and stuff like that. That’s enough to answer “Christian” on a survey of religions, but such respondents often have a very secular outlook on life and politics.
Big S on July 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Evangelical warns other evangelicals: Sit down and shut up, whackos.
Seriously. This anti-Mormon nuttiness has gotten out of hand.
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM
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