Wow: McCain leads among likely voters in new Gallup poll; Update: Young voters sour on Obama?

posted at 4:12 pm on July 28, 2008 by Allahpundit

And to think, I figured today’s happy poll news would be that Rasmussen sees Obama’s post-speech bounce on Thursday and Friday as having disappeared over the weekend. You want disappearances? According to a Gallup tracking poll taken Friday through Sunday, i.e. after the “We Are the World” singalong in Berlin, Obama leads by eight among registered voters. But according to, er, another Gallup poll taken over the same period, Obama’s lead is only three — and he actually trails by four among likelies. Even better:

The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45% among voters that Gallup believes are most likely to go to the polls in November. In late June, he was behind among likely voters, 50%-44%.

As for the difference between the tracking and USA TODAY/Gallup polls, Frank [Newport, chief Gallup pollster,] says not to read too much into it. “Statistical noise” may be largely to blame.

The bad news: The eight-point lead is based on a much larger sample (2,600 versus 800) so it’s probably more reliably. As for why McCain is suddenly up among likelies, Newport suspects a backlash among conservatives “energized” by Obama’s European trip. But why would that number be larger than the number of liberals excited by all the photo ops with world leaders plus the number of centrists who doubt whether Obama’s ready for prime time feeling reassured by the fact that his trip went relatively smoothly?

Update: Brian Faughnan points to a piece of data noted last week by Michael Barone that may explain this: The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?


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Either backlash from Europe or Hope withdrawl.

DanStark on July 28, 2008 at 4:14 PM

An Empty Suit will only get you so far in the internet age…

GO anyone but Obama….

originalpechanga on July 28, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Yes, never underestimate the backlash of Odrama already acting as if he has won. Remember how Hillary cleaned his clock in lots of places? This elite bastardo has no where left to go but down.

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Guess the American Public was not impressed by the world tour!

ordi on July 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM

My prediction (based on nothing but my reliable hunch) is that by election day, McCain will lead Obama by 8 points. The messiah’s campaign will begin to self-implode after the first 2 debates.

Just watch…

JetBoy on July 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Its not over yet groups like ACORN and LA RAZA promise to recruit over a million new votes in the november election.

I saw where democrats just got their wish to have military centers be used as voter registration places. I saw that as a way for them to pass on the cost of voter registration to the military and use their time and resorces to increase the voter turnout.

McCain can win but the GOP is still badly lagging in GOTV.

William Amos on July 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM

So is the likely voters percentages from the sample of all registered voters? Who do they exclude from the sample?

Typhonsentra on July 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM

The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45% among voters that Gallup believes are most likely to go to the polls in November. In late June, he was behind among likely voters, 50%-44%.

Chakra Hammer on July 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM

So is the likely voters percentages from the sample of all registered voters? Who do they exclude from the sample?

Typhonsentra on July 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM

13yr old kids.. :}

Chakra Hammer on July 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM

The eight-point lead is based on a much larger sample (2,600 versus 800) so it’s probably more reliably.

Two different samples, though. He leads by 8 amongst registers, but is behind by 4 amongst likelies. Which type of sample tends to be more accurate?

amerpundit on July 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM

OT: anyone else try the new search engine released today?
http://www.cuil.com/
By some former Google people.

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM

The MSM has long played a game with the polls. They overstate the democrats chances as a way of playing into the post election “We wuz robbed” screams of the left.

By increasing the numbers in the polls the create the perception that the democratic candidate does better than he or she really is in hopes of protraying some kind of illegality involved in elections.

William Amos on July 28, 2008 at 4:21 PM

But why would that number be larger than the number of liberals excited by all the photo ops with world leaders plus the number of centrists who doubt whether Obama’s ready for prime time feeling reassured by the fact that his trip went relatively smoothly?

Don’t kid yourself. He’s made many of them very nervous too.

TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 4:22 PM

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Just tested it. It sucks

TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Quite frankly, I do not trust polls one way or the other. They are so often skewed. I used to say I don’t trust polls so far out of the election; however, the exit poll fiasco of 2004 that showed Kerry winning changed my mind.
Polls are a waste of time and money.

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM

But what about all of the HAers who say McCain has no chance of winning?

jgapinoy on July 28, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Just tested it. It sucks

TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Agreed. The three columns seems so distracting.

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Yes, i tried Cuil, several times. Kept getting server is overloaded message and have yet to get in. Not an auspicious launch imho.

As for these polls, I have mentioned several times in different threads….it’s all about the signs and stickers! No yard signs = no real support. And here in my world there is hardly a sign to be seen, either way. How goes it in your area? Honestly, there is likely 75 to 1 hereabouts Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers vs Obama ones! The Dems around here are still wishing for the ‘good old days’! :-D

dustoffmom on July 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM

The MSM has long played a game with the polls. They overstate the democrats chances as a way of playing into the post election “We wuz robbed” screams of the left.

By increasing the numbers in the polls the create the perception that the democratic candidate does better than he or she really is in hopes of protraying some kind of illegality involved in elections.

William Amos on July 28, 2008 at 4:21 PM

They over sample Dems, to make the Dem look stronger because “some” independents want to vote with the winner, and if thew polls look like person X is winning.. then “some” independents will vote that way, “herd mentality”

I call it the poll dance, pollsters IMHO are basically the same as the MSM IMHO.. low credibility.

Chakra Hammer on July 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM

TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Yep. Really bad result layout.

amerpundit on July 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM

But why would that number be larger than the number of liberals excited by all the photo ops with world leaders plus the number of centrists who doubt whether Obama’s ready for prime time feeling reassured by the fact that his trip went relatively smoothly?

Most independents recognize a World Child Emperor when they see one in pictures.

However, I’d rather wish for McCain to have numbers a bit lower than Obama right into Nov. It sharpens the senses.

Entelechy on July 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM

I’m not really surprised. It’s a very thin minority of people that don’t believe in a higher power, and thereby let Obama fill that void.

kirkill on July 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM

carbon_footprint, amerpundit,

The results are terrible too. I’ve been searching for a few things all day long so I know what the “obvious” proper results should be and they didn;t even show up on the first page. Then, I go this:

No results because of high load…

Due to excessive load, our servers didn’t return results. Please try your search again.

About Cuil | Your Privacy | Add Cuil to Firefox

TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 4:28 PM

I’m really nervous about conventional wisdom as to what constitutes a “likely voter” in this election. That said, I’ve always thought that the media pile-on/narrative was out of touch with actual conditions, with respect to McCain’s chances of winning this thing.

DaveS on July 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Could it have a little be to do with Senate Republicans’ ultimatum over drilling and Harry Reid’s little obstructionist meltdown on Friday? Or are we political junkies the only ones who know about that stuff?

It’s just that McCain hasn’t done anything to earn a jump, and Obama hasn’t screwed up anything enough to warrant a dramatic dip. I’m thinking external factors are having an impact, and gas prices are the only thing getting people’s attention right now.

aero on July 28, 2008 at 4:30 PM

That’s funny, On the news I only heard about the numbers showing Obama with a big lead…

forest on July 28, 2008 at 4:30 PM

I just left the Cuil web site. I was able to look a few things up, then there was server overload and I got nowhere. However, from what I have seen, it’s not bad. Would like to play with it some more though.

UnEasyRider on July 28, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Like BigoldDog I kept trying a search for something I am quite familiar whith…..wtf!? The ‘results’ they came up with are totally skewed.

Fact is, at the end of the day, one can not beat Google for a search engine. mho of course.

dustoffmom on July 28, 2008 at 4:31 PM

Does anyone miss hearing from the wife, saucy Michelle O?

UnEasyRider on July 28, 2008 at 4:31 PM

Anyone see the People cover piece? Gag me with a spoon….if they are ‘average joes’ then I must be in deep deep poverty! What a farce!

dustoffmom on July 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM

McCain’s most effective bumper sticker:

McCain: He’s Not Obama.

Cicero43 on July 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM

The bad news: The eight-point lead is based on a much larger sample (2,600 versus 800) so it’s probably more reliably.

It is only larger if they were samples from the same pool but they are not.

They are both small samples which suits pollsters well in fudging numbers. In real terms the likely voters count for more in predicting results, but where are the likely voters from?

The polls are the new advertising medium of elections. THe cool part for politicinas is they are not silenced by campaign finance reform so they can be ever so useful.

Let the sample fit the message

entagor on July 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Sweet! Gallup called me on Saturday so I’d just like to say I’m proud to have been part of this particular number…

Citizen Duck on July 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Actually, with a universe of something like a 120 million likely voters, the difference between a sample with an N = 800 and an N = 2,500 only changes the margin of error by just over 1%. So the larger sample size can’t really explain the difference unless there was some kind of non-random bias built into the survey distribution.

mypetjawa on July 28, 2008 at 4:38 PM

As the CW goes (and I guess it’s right), this is a referendum on Obama and not McCain. Folks know, for good or bad, McCain.

Remember the 2000 slogan that all the candidates tried to grab: Authenticity?

That may be back in vogue. If so, Obama’s in trouble.

SteveMG on July 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Calm down people. The poll was of “likely voters”. It did not include the all-important category of “dead” and “bogus” democratic voters that will probably surge in November.

hepcat on July 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM

I think some sense that he is really full of garbage and not trustworthy.

That’s what they want, Daddy who will listen to them and assuage their fears of the mean world.

Maybe he needs to grow out his beard and wear some brown robes and stuff.

benrand on July 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

This is what I’m banking on to prevent a disastrous Obama presidency. After another tree months of this stuff, the youngsters will hopefully drift off and find something to do besides vote. Like maybe drink a kegger and play hacky sack.

forest on July 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM

TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Yes, the guy on Fox mentioned there would be huge demand on their servers today. Supposedly, there are significantly larger result pools than Google; also says the guy on Fox earlier today.

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

Maybe, just maybe, they’re realizing Obama is full of crap and not really the “New type” they thought. Then they lose their motivation and go back to apathy. Most people my age that I know that support Obama have no real reasons beyond the “Hope and Change” platitudes, and if they think those are a load of BS, there’s nothing in it for them.

smithinmich on July 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM

“We Are Doomed”

has temporarily been changed to

“We may be doomed, check back next week…”

tommylotto on July 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Update: Brian Faughnan points to a piece of data noted last week by Michael Barone that may explain this: The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

I saw a CNN special report about young voters and their love affair with Obama a few weeks ago. In it, college political group organizers said that, at that time, college voters were more excited and likely to vote than ever before because they perceived Obama as a “different kind of politician” – a modern guy who’s tapped into what’s important to younger voters and not playing the political game. The young organizers said that “if young voters get the sense that Obama is just a politician like all the rest, their interest will evaporate.” And that statement was from enthusiastic young Obama supporters who didn’t think for a moment that Obama would ever turn out to be a politician like any other. Perhaps they’re starting to get the sense that he’s the consummate politician after all, as he rapidly triangulates to the center, throws everyone he can under the bus, and turns everything he does into another campaign event. That would explain their disillusionment according to the inadvertent prediction provided by that CNN special.

aero on July 28, 2008 at 4:47 PM

The cuil.com website now just says “Hope and Change”

faraway on July 28, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Young people less likely to vote? Hmmmmm, might have to do with Obama being exposed as just another politician, not the political messiah his campaign has been propping him up to be.

Plus I hear another Rage Against the Machine concert is being proposed for the Democratic convention this year. Maybe the 68ers will have music for their destruction?

DanStark on July 28, 2008 at 4:49 PM

This is great news. Funny, how the percentage of republicans voting has remained the same. and the dems and youth vote has decreased. heheh

becki51758 on July 28, 2008 at 4:50 PM

So pollsters have gone from direct Skewing of the numbers to instead saying their polls are now just based off “noise”

Rbastid on July 28, 2008 at 4:50 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

..because we have surpassed the attention span of that voting block. They are now focussed on the Miley Cyrus photographed smoking a cigarette scandal.

Alden Pyle on July 28, 2008 at 4:53 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

Not sure either of my two voting-age kids will vote for the geezer, but I’m thinking they might be too uncomfortable with the Moshiach to vote for him. Doesn’t matter anyway, since the M is a lock in Maryland.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on July 28, 2008 at 4:54 PM

It seems as if the 8 point lead for Obama and the 4 point lead for McCain are both outliers. I am hoping that McCain is picking up some support.

I know a lot of people on both sides of the aisle who are more than a little bit leery of Obama.

McCain is a known quantity. He has shown the willingness and the ability to stick with tough decisions and people do not faint when he speaks. They don’t wet themselves or drool or mindlessly chant his name either. All of that is a big plus to the not crazy voter.

Terrye on July 28, 2008 at 5:00 PM

There’s also a new Rasmussen poll out today showing Obama leading by 48-45, although two days ago he was ahead 49-43.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

Rasmussen runs their polls on three-day moving averages, on the three days prior to the posting date. Today’s poll still includes last Friday, the day after the “Ich Bin Ein Beginner” Citizen of the World speech. It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, when the Berlin Bump drops out of the moving average, and more people know about Obama dissing the troops in Germany.

Steve Z on July 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I don’t know why Allah is letting you guys hijack the thread with this Cuil crap, but do me a favor and go get a room.

You’re off topic, as you noted in the first comment. Quit it.

Jaibones on July 28, 2008 at 5:02 PM

However, I’d rather wish for McCain to have numbers a bit lower than Obama right into Nov. It sharpens the senses.

Entelechy on July 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM

I’m with you, E. I prefer to see Obama keep his lead for a few more months. McCain does little to motivate voters; we need the fear of an Obama win to get out the McCain vote.

AZCoyote on July 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM

On topic

Three-pronged failure by Obambi:

- The knee-pad MSM has been propping up everything Obambi for a year, now, and the smoke and mirrors are fading,

- The 19 year olds upon whom his popularity rests have figured out what the press refuses to acknowledge, namely that he is an even bigger liar/politician than Clenis Clinton was, and that’s why they hate politicians in the first place, and

- The people who are actually paying attention to this race can’t figure out what his positions are, so they have given up on him.

As I said earlier and pithier – Eff Him.

Jaibones on July 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM

cuil is extremely lame…

ninjapirate on July 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM

OT: anyone else try the new search engine released today?
http://www.cuil.com/
By some former Google people.

carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM

So far, it SUCKS: Doesn’t find anything from most multi-word phrases, hard to read the results, no clear delineation between paid results and others, hard to navigate results, and no clear advantage over any other search engine.

It’s NOT ready to go into my toolbar as an alternative to the other 17 search engines I use.

landlines on July 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

Looks like my friend with 2 kids in college was right when she said that her kids were gaga over Obama, but when they get home for the Summer, Dad and I will talk some sense into them.

Pal2Pal on July 28, 2008 at 5:18 PM

My insticks on this are conflicted. My 6th sense tells me the US won’t vote in Obama for multiple reasons. But, my case hardened sceptic gut tells me that collective US voter judgement has broken down.

saiga on July 28, 2008 at 5:21 PM

cuil is extremely lame…

ninjapirate on July 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM

I guess the choice of the name “cuil” was a clue:

Wasn’t it The Fonz who said

“If you have to tell people you’re cool…you’re NOT!”

landlines on July 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM

But why would that number be larger than the number of liberals excited by all the photo ops with world leaders plus the number of centrists who doubt whether Obama’s ready for prime time feeling reassured by the fact that his trip went relatively smoothly?

I’m always frightened by run on sentences …maybe I won’t understand what was really meant is the fear
but let me take a jab at this one….They live in a dream world? :>)

jerrytbg on July 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM

I don’t know why Allah is letting you guys hijack the thread with this Cuil crap, but do me a favor and go get a room.

You’re off topic, as you noted in the first comment. Quit it.

Jaibones on July 28, 2008 at 5:02 PM

Someone’s on a power trip.

Dorvillian on July 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM

reliably

??

abrown28 on July 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

The general is not the primary and their Utopian idealism took a huge hit went under the Obama bus.

Entelechy on July 28, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Maybe the younger adults are beginning to see through Obama in that there is really nothing to him. No experience and a blame America first attitude might be making Bambi more transparent. If only CNN can begin to see the truth instead of giving airtime to blowhards like Jack Cafferty (Keith Olberman is bad enough). The MSM has too much to lose at this point if Bambi doesn’t win. If he doesn’t win, their corruption will have been in vain and heads will roll by the dozens. And if he does win, it will be the end of America as we know it.

Travis1 on July 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM

18-24-year-olds don’t show up to vote because they are 18-24 years old. They are looking at a new school year, if they are in college:
new living arrangements
new roommates
Differential Equations
Substantial Writing Components
losing scholarships and having to work
having to buckle down in order to keep scholarships….

Unfortunately (for Obama) voting tends to go by the wayside.

Sekhmet on July 28, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Why does anyone pay much attention to polls? They are only slightly better than weathermen and are constantly ‘surprised”. Not to say that all polls are inaccurate, it is just that you can not tell which one to believe, so we believe the polls we want to believe. Eight hundred voters? I do not care how ‘scientific’ they are, eight hundred voters could not be a sample of anything that will reflect an election (today or in November). Then you have the intentional misleadings (registered vs. likely voters, weekends vs. weekdays, varying percentages of Dems vs Republicans in the sampling). It is closer to phantasy baseball and pre-draft mock selections than any real vote or election. Let the politicians use polls for their strategies and if they are wrong, so be it. Trying to influence voters based on polls and how ‘other people are voting’ is sad and pathetic.

jerseyman on July 28, 2008 at 6:16 PM

13yr old kids.. :}

Chakra Hammer on July 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Would that be physical age or mental age?

BigWyo on July 28, 2008 at 6:23 PM

But according to, er, another Gallup poll taken over the same period, Obama’s lead is only three — and he actually trails by four among likelies.

I believe that some smelling salts are in order.

That USA Today/Gallup outlier poll has a sample size of 791.

Meanwhile

MB4 on July 28, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Re Update:

The youths are fairly radical in general, they are young! Obama has not hedged to the center he’s practically leaped. Maybe some youth is disenchanted with the lack of radicalness lately, or the fact that Obama looks like he aged 20 years himself of late and looks like an older dude now lol.

Or like with all younger people & fads, he just burned out for some.. Obama did peak kind of early, maybe there’s something else out like a new Ipod or something occupying their attention. I did notice that that early on the networks had those young people / reporters doing stories on the university excitement etc, but the schools are out! Without group-think maybe the kids could care less?

saus on July 28, 2008 at 6:28 PM

MB4:

It would just break your heart if the socialist Obama lost wouldn’t it? You have your heart sit on punishing Republicans for not nominating the magnetic Ron Paul or some other loon who would not have a snow ball’s chance of winning. I bet you would not be smirking about polls if your guy was coming in 30 back, which he would be.

Terrye on July 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Senator Hopenchange will have a tough time getting the youngins to the polls in November. Some -awesome- video games come out in Oct and November!

lorien1973 on July 28, 2008 at 6:47 PM

It would just break your heart if the socialist Obama lost wouldn’t it?

Apparently, his penitence for supporting McCain in 2000 is to try and make everyone else miserable.

I don’t think that’s how it’s supposed to work.

SteveMG on July 28, 2008 at 6:52 PM

I love saying , “I told you so”

When the Messiah gets consistently behind in the polls, it’s going to get very, very Ugly

Janos Hunyadi on July 28, 2008 at 7:25 PM

Some kids are smart enough to ask what B. Hussein Obama stands for and when they got a blank look back they turned to McCain.

HotAirExpert on July 28, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Senator Hopenchange will have a tough time getting the youngins to the polls in November. Some -awesome- video games come out in Oct and November!

lorien1973 on July 28, 2008 at 6:47 PM

Absolutely! Since the elections of the ’70′s (and yes, I do remember THAT FAR back) we have been bombarded with the ‘youth vote, young vote, college vote’ and what a huge difference they are going to make. And they are indeed terrific campaign supporters. But somehow, come that Tuesday morning in November they seem to always be fast, fast asleep in bed or in class and never seem to make it over to the polls. For decades, and generations, some things just never seem to change. A great movie, a wonderous video game, a long hard drunk….college kids just seem to ever forget their ‘principles’ come Tuesday.

dustoffmom on July 28, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Update: Brian Faughnan points to a piece of data noted last week by Michael Barone that may explain this: The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

Remember the High School Valedictorian?
Remember the BMOC at college?
Remember the guy on TGIF nights that was the first to show up and buy a round and leave just before it was his turn again?
Remember the guys who were all talk on the field, the court, in class or in the pub?
Remember the guys who talked incessantly about themselves?

I’m not surprised his numbers are dropping in this age group. Obama has given them the chance to get to know him.

Dusty on July 28, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Very simple, folks. The young’uns who were thronging for their new, hip Messiah discovered that he’s dishonest like every other politician, and said “F*** it.” They’ll stay home in droves. Obama will lose, and we’ll never hear from him again.

Oh, how I hope it really goes down this way…

philwynk on July 28, 2008 at 8:02 PM

A goddam pushbroom could beat Obama this Fall. But I’m not so sure about McCain.

argos on July 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM

The percentage of adults 18 to 29 who say they’re likely to vote has dropped 20 points since March. But why?

Because Obama has flip-flopped on 21 separate issues, mostly moving to the right, disillusioning his leftist base.

jgapinoy on July 28, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Obama has been giving the press more time and when he does he spends most of his time dodging questions. Eighteen year olds know that real Hope and Change would not fear a mere question so much. He’s not what he says he is and they have now seen it for themselves.

I tried cuil. The results for “snaggletoothie” were not near as complete as from Google or Dogpile. So I’ll drag my prima donna butt to a search engine that strokes my ego more.

snaggletoothie on July 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM

McCain should buy huge chunks of network time on election day & run movies like Dumb & Dumber & Napoleon Dynamite all day. That will keep the youngsters from voting.

jgapinoy on July 28, 2008 at 9:33 PM

McCain should buy huge chunks of network time on election day & run movies like Dumb & Dumber & Napoleon Dynamite all day. That will keep the youngsters from voting.

You kid but, y’know that’s pretty good….

On the other hand, Obama can get Bob Evans to have an all day senior’s eat free night and that’ll take out about 1/3 of McCain’s votes.

SteveMG on July 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM

all day senior’s eat free night

all day…night?

Yeah, yeah, I don’t sweat the details.

Comedy isn’t always pretty.

SteveMG on July 28, 2008 at 9:43 PM

SteveMG

Shuffleboard on into the night!

jgapinoy on July 28, 2008 at 11:30 PM

I think Obama is flagging due to hopeus interruptus.

Dems are always a bazillion points ahead this time of year. BHO should be concerned. He’s revealing more each day what a truly pompous nerf herder he is.

Mojave Mark on July 29, 2008 at 1:37 AM

The young people I know who were Obama supporters have now moved to neutral territory. The more you know about Obama, the more you gag.

NNtrancer on July 29, 2008 at 8:33 AM