hillbillyjim on July 28, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Hey hillbillyjim…

First question: Do you know anything about “Tennessee elevation and Kentucky windage”…?

Second question: Was the feud between the Hatfield’s and the McCoy’s an actuality or only a rural legend?

Were those appropriate questions?

Just asking…!

“Links? hillbillyjim on July 28, 2008 at 8:30 AM

“McCain flip flop yielded big oil money”

J_Gocht on July 28, 2008 at 8:57 AM

Thanks. So many on here lately who are fond of pulling stats and ‘facts’ out of their sphincter. Glad to see you’re not one of those.

“…It still doesnt sway me from the fact that unfortunately the only solution that the middle east radicals have left to us is their removal.
Sonosam on July 28, 2008 at 6:33 PM

As much as I believe in communications and conflict resolution; I agree with you in the final analysis…

Those who would injure or kill our families or destroy our constitutional government should and must certainly be removed with prejudice.

It still doesnt sway me from the fact that unfortunately the only solution that the middle east radicals have left to us is their removal.

Thank you again.

Entelechy on July 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM

We have been blessed and rejoice for many children and grand childern!

No sir, the answer is to kill the enemy at the source.
Sonosam on July 28, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Dear Sonosam, I was a soldier once…

My mission was to do just that!

I am no longer a soldier!

No tree hugging twig chewer understands BTU’s nor the implications of energy if you ask.

upinak on July 28, 2008 at 3:59 PM

I know, I just like to bitch-slap them with the cold hard science because it pisses them off…

“…FYI there little stoner tree hugging twig chewer, how much coal or natural gas does it take to run your house? upinak on July 28, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Hi there, upinak! No matter where you live in Wisconsin or Alaska I’m certain you can find a south facing slope of land?

Given that; you orient your home such as that all the glass has southern exposure.

Given that; you purchase double or even triple pane glass, with special “E coating” to allow all the infrared heat in [one way] yet precluding its’ escape [outside] at night.

Finally you install insulating curtains you let down at night to provide additional “R value” to your glazing.

Average cost to heat a new three bedroom home with “green standards” in southwest Wisconsin, approximately 500 to 700 gallons of propane per year. Cost of propane today $2.37/gallon.

Cost to heat our earth sheltered home with passive solar glazing, less than 200 gallons per winter season.

We only have to increase the average temperature of the bermed and buried earth structure from about 55 degrees to 72 degrees. Any above ground house has to contend with temperatures as low as -25F at our latitude. That’s a differential 95F as compared to our 15F degrees.

Huh…?

Oh BTW: I’m [we're] are no longer “twig eating, stoner[s]”.
We’re now exclusively, locally grown, vegetable eating… geezers!

All the very best to you and your’s , upinak!

Senator Mc Cain pretty much agrees with Obama’s approach to an Iraq timetable.

President Bush has finally embraced Obama’s approach to Iran by opening high level negotiation with Ahmadinejad.

Good for you GOP!

J_Gocht on July 28, 2008 at 7:58 AM

Obama is all-seeing/knowing, omnipotent and omni-present.

Be proud of your saviour.

Ein Kind is geboren. Wir jubeln.

Then couple that; with the administration’s lack of regulation of “Big Banks” and hedge funds… Eureka, the proverbial economic fiasco!

J_Gocht on July 28, 2008 at 8:47 AM

No consideration of the cost of security with no Iraq war?

So we dont go to Iraq ( which is part of the big picture of middle east reform ) and decide that the only option is to out guess the enemy and stop threats from the edge of their borders to ours.

How successful do you think that would be?

Leaving the scum of the earth basically a safe zone to conduct terrorism.

The cost of 9/11 in economic impact alone was over a trillion dollars and sent shockwaves throughout the world with the suggestion that we were vulnarable.

No sir, the answer is to kill the enemy at the source.

“…so you’re in favor of dropping subsidies and requirements for ethanol? which were about $7 billion in 2006? right4life on July 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM

r_4_l, both you and I know there never would have been a nuclear power plant built in the US, unless they were insured 100 percent for liability and subsidized up to 75 percent by the govmint.

I’m not per se, against nuclear power; but let’s face it; no one to this day, decades later is willing to have a nuclear waste depository in their back yard.

I’d be happy as a “Lil piggy in a blanket” if the govmint would give that same kind of construction subsidy to “wind and solar” today!

r_4_l, the transformation to alternative energy would be an unbelievable miracle, overnight express, a veritable stampede!

I’d be first in line if you didn’t trip me?

Wyznowski on July 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM

No tree hugging twig chewer understands BTU’s nor the implications of energy if you ask.

McCain needs to remember one thing only for his campaign…It’s the cost of gas, stupid.

J_Gocht on July 28, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Interesting approach on the “wind solar etc” crap.

I suggest you read up on what it costs to actually run a electric car. How much it costs to “plug it in” or use the copper nickel batteries that are not able to be recycled or the fact you just have no clue on what it takes to make electricity.

FYI there little stoner tree hugging twig chewer, how much coal or natural gas does it take to run your house? Then figure in the cost of one of your cars. All in All, OIL is and will always be cheaper in the long run as well as more dependable. You are just the idiot who think that saving the world via alternative methods will make you feel better about yourself as a whole. Go away, you are annoying.

The Republicans need to set this issue in peoples minds so when the rhetoric starts they have the true enemy of their pocket book already well defined for them.

bigoted, homophobe, ad hominine attack person

typical liberal lines…to be used when liberals cannot win the argument.

in other words, all the time.

Actually the markets are taking care of things.

oh really? so you’re in favor of dropping subsidies and requirements for ethanol? which were about $7 billion in 2006? the same for wind and solar?

even slate has figured out what a waste ethanol is.

The ridiculous, exorbitant, mostly criminal cost of oil has given alternative energy sources just the impetus they required to become feasible.

the only reason oil is so expensive is becasue our government won’t let our own oil be drilled.

“Big Oil” is in the process of killing the goose that has laid their golden eggs for yea these many decades. I for one; could not be more pleased.

this is delusional. the environmental wackos have given us these high gas prices, along with opec, and both are pleased as punch…along with the democrats.

As for Mother Nature; almost everything that’s good for her is in the long term also good for mankind.

well according to the environmental wackos carbon dioxide is bad for gaia…so they’d be happier with a lot less people.

by huge corporate farms, utilizing fossil fuels for transport, unknown herbicides, pesticides and the extensive exploitation of indigenous labor

those ‘terrible’ corporate farms give us economies of scale, lower prices, and more food. and we need those pesticides, herbicides, etc to grow enough food to actually feed all the people in the world. thinking ‘organic’ farming will give us enough food is delusional.

extensive exploitation of indigenous labor.

I’ll just take a guess…you’re all for illegal immigration….you want ‘amnesty’ right?

“…Well, aren’t you just charming? BigD on July 28, 2008 at 10:59 AM

“Charm” is my middle name when it comes to the bigoted, homophobe, ad hominine attack person…you just mentioned, BigD.

That is you BigD, isn’t it?

Just kiddin’! :)

Johnny Mac needs to turn himself into Joe Six Pack against Obama. Hillary realized this too late in her primary run, but once she did she gained traction. Pushing Obama into a position of favoring the caribou over the average voter will make him seem even more elitist than he already seems.

we should let the market take care of these things, when government gets involved it distorts the market, resulting in consequences like the above.
we’ve done it to ourselves, and the environmentalists are happy about this, because they don’t care about human suffering, rather saving their goddess, mother earth..gaia
right4life on July 28, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Actually the markets are taking care of things. The ridiculous, exorbitant, mostly criminal cost of oil has given alternative energy sources just the impetus they required to become feasible.

“Big Oil” is in the process of killing the goose that has laid their golden eggs for yea these many decades. I for one; could not be more pleased.

As for Mother Nature; almost everything that’s good for her is in the long term also good for mankind.

As an example; procuring our fruits and vegetables locally from farmer’s markets or from CSA’s [Community Supported Agriculture] growing organic food… is much preferable than eating produce shipped halfway around the world, by huge corporate farms, utilizing fossil fuels for transport, unknown herbicides, pesticides and the extensive exploitation of indigenous labor.

Drive on…!

Yeah, and they [electric and wind] won’t power a car large enough to transport the Lumber Leviathan from Palm Beach. Oh well!

J_Gocht on July 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Well, aren’t you just charming? It’s always fun to irritate the liberal contingent; just drop Rush’s name and they lose any sense of decorum.

Unless you believe in manmade climate change, I don’t, we have enough coal alone to powere our electric needs for centuries without considering wind and solar. Throw nukes into the mix and we can reduce coal power, eliminate nat gas power, and reduce the CO2 the greens worry about.

I’m getting weary of people mixing energy issues. Oil and gas are primarily transportation issues. Wind and solar are strictly, fo rnow, electricity generation issues.

Anomaliles like oil heating can be addressed. No one should be heating their home with oil