I can off hand think of quit a few other people that should have suffered a accident/rival hit job, long long ago before they got the juice to protect themselves, cough bin laden early Sudan.

The fact today we have to invade entire nations to kill a handful of people is a disgrace and direct result of the gutting of the CIA.

One only needs a refinery that can filter out sulfur if you care about sulfur emissions, like they do in Europe or the US.

I suspect China will simply run Chavez’s crude through their refineries unaltered, and let the Chinese people choke on the fumes.

“why does venezuala have to import any petroleum products?”

Probably a refining issue, which they are addressing by making deals with China. Things like this happen anyway, even without refining issues. Canada is an oil exporting country, but they also import oil from Venezuela. I don’t know exactly why this happens, but it does. Why does Canada have to import any petroleum products? Are they evil commies as well?

Hillbillyjim:

“This is from YOUR link”

The link is not mine. I do not own it. I referred to that link in connection with the China/Venezuela deal. I corroborated the information in that link (regarding the China/Venezuela deal) with a second reference. I have two references for the point that I made. The fact that one of the references repeats that same BS about oil production does not invalidate what that same link says about the China/Venezuela deal, especially when that info is corroborated by another source. Imbecile.

It is a much simpler foot in the door to make your buffoon host feel like a big shot. It will be easier to position their wujing in the Venezualan oil fields, and their security codes into Venezualan software.

The documentation of the worlds resources continues. The triangulation of the buffoons continues. At some point we will see Chinese influence in the Citgo refineries inside the US. More archiving of our strategic needs and more physical access to entities inside our borders

Useful tool for the Chinese. They seek success by quantity not quality. More footprints, more passcodes, more access points.

They are successful if you think locusts are successful. The numbers drive them to feed the insatiable machine.

Our few refineries are precious, and each is a tactical target. Lose one refinery in the US and watch home heating oil prices

This is from YOUR link:

Venezuela says it produces about 3.3 million barrels a day, but many outside sources – including the International Energy Agency, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, and the U.S. Energy Information Agency – put actual production closer to about 2.5 million barrels a day.

Asshole.

shows his desperation with falling oil production since he nationalized his one major export market
Are you ever going to get over this stupid talking point?

ok, if things are so rosy in Venezuala, then why this, from the article YOU posted:

A report by the Venezuelan Central Bank this week demonstrated that petroleum imports reached US$1.5 billion (€964 million) during the first quarter of 2008. The imports — which include diesel oil, gasoline and chemical additives for gasoline products — are the country’s highest in more than a decade.

A spokesperson for PDVSA said the company had no immediate comment on the issue.

Economist Gustavo Garcia, a professor at a Caracas business school, said called the increase “one more factor that shows how production has fallen,” forcing the company to purchase petroleum products outside of the country.

why does venezuala have to import any petroleum products?

“over time it has proved difficult to get China to invest in these expensive ventures”

The fund to pay for this deal, however, was created 16 months ago.

Confirmation that China has already made its contribution to this fund is here:

“Beijing has previously agreed a $4 billion loan by the Development Bank of China to Venezuela’s Social Development Bank, Bandes, which is to be repaid with oil.”
Platts Oilgram News
May 13, 2008 Tuesday
China, Venezuela agree two new oil deals;
CNPC, PDVSA to develop Orinoco crude, build big refinery in Guangdong
BYLINE: Vandana Hari

China has already paid for the refinery. Venezuela is going to repay China with oil. If China decides not to build the refinery, it is they who are the saps, since that is how they are going to get repaid.

This ridiculous article is only for the consumption of right wing extremists. The reality is that the rest of the world is busy making plans for the post-US-empire world.

shows his desperation with falling oil production since he nationalized his one major export market

Are you ever going to get over this stupid talking point?
Go to pdvsa.com, click on “Informes Financieros,” then click on “Información financiera y operacional al 31 de diciembre de 2007 (Versión en inglés- PDF).” There you will see Venezuela’s numbers for oil exports in 2007. If you add up all the countries, this comes out to 2.789 mbpd. Of this, Venezuela sends 1.363 mbpd to the US. The difference between the 2.789 mbpd exported and the Venezuelan claims for total production (about 3.15 mbpd) is consumed domestically. The numbers agree exactly with Venezuela’s claims. Nevertheless, claims are constantly made that Venezuala’s production is about 2.4 mbpd.”

So how is Venezuela fudging the numbers? Maybe the aren’t really exporting what they say! So let’s look at what the US says they are importing from Venezuela. The numbers here are not for 2007, but they are for a one year period. So the US claims it is importing 1.33 mbpd, which is less than 1% difference than what Venezuela claims. So tell me, if the US is not getting short changed, what country is? What country is getting 700,000 barrels of oil less per day than what Venezuela is telling them? If Venezuela is short-changing other countries to the tune of 700,000 bpd, I think it is those countries that are the sap’s, not Venezuela.

How can Venezuela’s production be 2.4 mbpd when they export 2.789 mbpd? This does not even take into account domestic consumption. Are they using no gas in Venezuela as well? That must be it.

Grow up. Venezuela’s production is exactly what they say it is.

HERE.

Even Shemp?

Certainly not Curly Joe?

….well maybe still…

ej_pez on July 28, 2008 at 1:20 PM

I LOVE SHEMP!! he’s my favorite stooge!! especially the one where he has to get married to get an inheritance…ever notice the stooges had a lot of cute girls in their shorts?

yeah they weren’t as dumb as they looked!!

ps: joe besser was the worst stooge….

Omnipotence is indignant.

I can also picture Chavez running in a circle on one foot while slapping his own face in a hand over hand motion and yelling “bwoob bwoob bwoob bwoob bwoob”.

CC

Nationalizing CITCO would also please me. I am against nationalization in general but Venezuela is a practitioner which has harmed US interests as well as my personal interests.

calling chavez a stooge is an insult to the 3 stooges!!!

right4life on July 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Even Shemp?

Certainly not Curly Joe?

….well maybe still…

but China doesn’t seem to be taking the same approach.

logis on July 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Exactly, Russia wanted to dominate the world, China wants the world to buy from them…and then economically dominate.
China has enough of a country, enough people, not to worry about planting their flag to far from home.

Chavez bought millions of dollars of upgraded oil-production equipment from China in return for a commitment to build a new refinery in China to handle Venezuelan crude, but industry analysts think China just played Chavez for a sap…

I very seldom literally “Laugh Out Loud” over something I read on the Internet, but this did the trick.

Seriously though, Chavez is trying to take over Castro’s role in South America. The problem is that the Soviet Union was willing to spend billions just to give America a black eye, but China doesn’t seem to be taking the same approach.