Democrat delegate “done with the Democratic Party”
posted at 1:00 pm on July 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Debra Bartoshevich finds herself with a week free in August after getting expelled from the Wisconsin delegation to the Democratic national convention in Denver. Bartoshevich made headlines last month when she announced that she would support John McCain over Barack Obama after Hillary Clinton “suspended” her campaign in June. She has never voted Republican in her life, but now says she’s “done with the Democratic Party”:
Debra Bartoshevich, the duly elected Democratic Party delegate for Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin who vowed undying loyalty to the former first lady, has been dumped by the state party and barred from attending the Democratic National Convention in Denver next month. …
A 41-year-old emergency room nurse who says she’s never voted Republican in her life, Bartoshevich was fiercely in favor of Clinton’s universal health care program. She donated chunks of her salary to the New York senator. Bartoshevich was elected a convention delegate at the county level and was very excited about the trip to her lifelong party’s national convention.
But when Barack Obama won sufficient delegates to capture the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination, Bartoshevich was bitterly disappointed. Not unlike a lot of the 17 million supporters who voted for the New York senator. While Clinton has urged her hordes to support Obama, many seem to be hesitating.
Actually, the normally excellent Andrew Malcolm assumes one fact not yet in evidence, which is part of Bartoshevich’s point. Obama has not won sufficient delegates to capture the nomination. Neither he nor Hillary Clinton could reach that point, but Obama has enough pledges from superdelegates to win the nomination, if they don’t change their minds. Hillary’s supporters want a floor vote in Denver with enough debate to give superdelegates an opportunity to rethink their pledges, but so far the Obama campaign has managed to put a stop to it.
Rationally, though, the Wisconsin Democrats could do little else. Bartoshevich made her opposition public, and since the Democrats are a voluntary organization, they can choose the delegates they want for their representatives in Denver. Having her as a member of the Denver delegation would create embarrassing publicity at what Democrats will be a Unityfest.
Bartoshevich will likely get the publicity anyway. She calls Obama “selected, not elected”, echoing the 2000 (and beyond) chant of Democratic protesters. She advises Americans to compare resumés and talks of her “respect and admiration” for John McCain. Bartoshevich might make a great envoy to the other disaffected PUMA voters who will congregate in Denver — unless the DNC and/or state delegations can sniff them out beforehand as well.
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A traitor to the traitor party is – a patriot.
Glad she’s seen the light.
NoDonkey on July 28, 2008 at 1:01 PM
CHAOS!
RoveLimbaugh, you magnificent bastard!Sekhmet on July 28, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Obama – Hillary.
Potato – Potahto.
What’s the difference?
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GT on July 28, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Let the good times roll!!
Rick on July 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM
“Selected, not elected.” Yeeccch.
Next we’ll learn that she’s “speaking truth to power.” Leftard cliches never die.
Cicero43 on July 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM
First Howard Stern, now Baroshevich. Can the tipping point be that far away?
Mallard T. Drake on July 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Hi Ed! – FYI!
Israel Obama Prayer Note – “Obama’s note was published in Ma’ariv and other international publications following Obama’s authorization to make the content of the note public. Obama submitted a copy of the note to media outlets when he left his hotel in Jerusalem.”
Anita on July 28, 2008 at 1:06 PM
I find it very ironic that the party of freedom and dissent and FREE SPEECH – kicked out a dissenting member. Given enough time these turkeys will always hang themselves, I love it.
Govgirl on July 28, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Welcome to the Big Tent Debra Bartoshevich. We must remember, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat. Waking up late is so much better than never. Now try to dump all that socialism you learned with the Democrats and embrace free enterprise which made our county great.
Maxx on July 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Oh, Denver will be a watershed moment, if Hillary can take down the O, she may actually win it. No press from her of late means no “bad ” press, I still see her on the ticket as a serious threat.
bbz123 on July 28, 2008 at 1:08 PM
How long before the Left labels her a racist?
The Dems left people like her a long time ago. They just don’t all realize it yet.
TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Hell hath no fury like a liberal scorned!!!
pueblo1032 on July 28, 2008 at 1:10 PM
An apostate to the Orator-in-Chief?
carbon_footprint on July 28, 2008 at 1:10 PM
I knew it smelled fishy! What a piece of work this guy is!
TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Knowing what other Hillary supporters (bloggers among them) are encountering by not backing down, including but not limited to blog hijackings, harassment, damage property and even a death threat or two, I’d like to advise this former Dem delegate to… ahem… get a gun… and carry it at all times.
newton on July 28, 2008 at 1:12 PM
OK – So, wouldn’t it be somewhat smart of the Republicans to invite her to their convention, giving her a platform. It would be fair enough for her to say that she supported Hillary, but that the Dems won’t even allow a floor vote. It could be mutually beneficial – she gets a large forum to voice her disgust, and the Repubs get to have her voice heard on the Democratic party and Obama (or, use her a propaganda, whichever way you want to phrase that).
No different than the Dems who bring out Iraq Vets that support them – but I think this would be even cooler.
nailinmyeye on July 28, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Mainstream political reporters, and other Democrat activists, have to watch their step around the Obama Campaign. Otherwise, you could be asked to turn in your kneepads and go home. And even worse, now you’re a “racist.”
RBMN on July 28, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Exactly how does someone who is elected get barred from carrying out the office she was elected to? Wasn’t the purpose of the election to decide who goes and who doesn’t go? I seriously doubt this is the end of the matter.
pedestrian on July 28, 2008 at 1:17 PM
People, she wanted Hillary-care. She hasn’t come to her senses. She’s just frustrated because she didn’t get what she wanted. She’s not making sense. She’s just voting McCain out of spite.
Don’t get too excited.
urbancenturion on July 28, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Yes! She can sit beside Joe Lieberman!
NeighborhoodCatLady on July 28, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Good for her.
HotAirJosef on July 28, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Proof that there is still intelligent life out there.
pilamaye on July 28, 2008 at 1:22 PM
THIS IS
SPARTAAMERICACHAOS!!!BohicaTwentyTwo on July 28, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Well, a vote is a vote. Now, if only a couple of million more disgruntled Hill voters will follow her lead.
BacaDog on July 28, 2008 at 1:23 PM
“She’s not making sense. She’s just voting McCain out of spite.”
I’m more excited about her than I am about so-called “conservatives” who I agree with basically on the issues, but who are going to sit home or vote for some twit like Bob Barr.
Anything that keeps the Obama family out of the White House is a good development.
Anything that works in Obama’s family, is basically bad.
NoDonkey on July 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM
But I thought dissent was patriotic, isn’t that what the Dems keep saying?
trubble on July 28, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Vanity Fair’s fat pimp James Wolcott thought Howard Stern would help the Democrats win in 2004. He also thought Kitty Kelly could do the trick.
mymanpotsandpans on July 28, 2008 at 1:31 PM
In a recent poll I conducted, 100% of voters who formerly supported Hillary because of “Obama’s inexperience,” now plan to vote for McCain because, “Obama is an arrogant prick.”
Poll sample size was 1 and was excluded to women married to me.
BohicaTwentyTwo on July 28, 2008 at 1:33 PM
A lot of us feel the very same way. We did not leave the democratic party, they left us. The liberal perception of the truth is what they want it to be and not whether it is true or not. They look at patriotism as a weakness of the uneducated masses and look at the world as where they are entitled to control. Control freaks forcing their will on the community of man is as old as the dawn of civilization. The democrats epitomize this fact.
volsense on July 28, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Now which is the totalitarian party of fear again?
jukin on July 28, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Bartoshevich should be invited to the conservative convention. She could be the Zell Miller of 2008.
Entelechy on July 28, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Thanks!
baldilocks on July 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM
There are just as many conservatives who feel the same way about John McCain. The only thing that’s guaranteed this election is that it’s sure to set all time records for low turn-out on both sides.
As committed as Hillary supporters are to NOT voting for Obama, there are just as many conservatives, if not more, who will be either sitting home, or writing in other candidates on Election Day. Where it benefits McCain is that Hillary supporters are more likely to purposely vote for McCain in their hatred toward Obama, while conservatives are more likely to simply stay home or vote for a third party.
Gregor on July 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Pretty soon that lady will be Hanitized and become a Rush babe.
Mojave Mark on July 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Exactly! Dumb as a rock. Nothing’s changed.
How does an emergency-room nurse come to the point that she supports government run healthcare? I guess she wants her paycheck cut to almost nothing.
Gregor on July 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM
“As committed as Hillary supporters are to NOT voting for Obama, there are just as many conservatives, if not more, who will be either sitting home, or writing in other candidates on Election Day.”
Not conservative, just stupid.
Anything that helps place Obama in the White House is by definition, not conservative.
Call it anything, but conservatives.
Real conservatives will vote for McCain this fall. He is far better than Obama on conservative issues.
So-called “conservatives” (who actually resemble leftists with their perpetual whining and constant claims of victimhood), will sit at home with their panties in a bunch, or vote for some circus clown like Bob Barr.
NoDonkey on July 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM
This is how Tammy Bruce found her way to the Republican party, and David Horowitz.
They truly wake up and see the direction the Dems are taking and it is so much different then what they were led to believe.
Hopefully Debra will have a chance to now receive some information outside of the DNC talking points. And like Tammy, understand that the truly “big tent” is the Republican party.
Think about it…we had as potenital Pres.McCain, Huck, Rommey, Fred, Guiliani and Lieberman tossed around as a VP candidate. Those three are a broader spectrum then the Dems ever dreamed of.
right2bright on July 28, 2008 at 1:51 PM
I think this is what you meant.
right2bright on July 28, 2008 at 1:53 PM
It’s just nose-cutting/face/spite. They’re crossing over for now but retaining their stink values. We’ll take her vote and send her home.
whitetop on July 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Good luck with that. Some of you haven’t been paying attention to John McCain’s actions over the last decade. Keep claiming he’s a conservative over and over. It won’t change who he is.
Keep in mind, that “real conservatives” wouldn’t have nominated John McCain in the first place.
Gregor on July 28, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Oh great, just what we need: another RINO. One reason why this lifelong Republican is no longer a Republican.
el hombre on July 28, 2008 at 1:57 PM
My college roommate ended up going to med school. I watched her slowly progress from moderate conservative to universal health care supporting liberal over the course of a couple years in med school.
Her big argument was that poor people shouldn’t have to die just because they were unlucky enough to be born poor.
Med school may have given her an education in medicine, but, it didn’t give her a lick of sense when it comes to economics and human behavior.
JadeNYU on July 28, 2008 at 2:00 PM
HOW A POLITICAL PARTY SELF DESTRUCTS
Yuh gotta laugh when the dems rant about “every vote counts.” Theft of votes is OK, as long as the DNC’s selection hijackers are doing the vote counting.
The DNC literally stole hundreds of thousands of votes, and two states from Hillary Clinton, then threw this delegate under the bus. A sad case of the Messiah being selected, and not elected.
byteshredder on July 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I’m still lovin’ this Trotsky vs. Stalin knife-fight. When Socialists are “expelled from the Party” – I am pleased. Anything that weakens the Socialist movement is a good thing.
I just with that the Wisconsin Democrats would call a spade a spade – and admit that Bartoshevic was guilty of “anti-Soviet agitation” and, therefore, was no longer in the Party.
Exit question – what does an apparatchik do, when an apparatchik is no longer a member of the Party?
OhEssYouCowboys on July 28, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Exit question – what does an apparatchik do, when an apparatchik is no longer a member of the Party? — Answer: Destroys other party.
el hombre on July 28, 2008 at 2:07 PM
I’m looking forward to the “unity” that will be displayed in Denver.
The Dimocrats must be getting soft. Bartoshevich could have been committed to an asylum for her own ‘protection’.
GarandFan on July 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I bet you fell over with shock when you read that Obama had released the contents of the prayer that was between him and God to the media.
Buy Danish on July 28, 2008 at 2:13 PM
So the totalitarian majority on HA welcomes a woman whose beef with Obama is that he’s not for universal healthcare. Why am I not surprised?
freevillage on July 28, 2008 at 2:17 PM
“Keep in mind, that “real conservatives” wouldn’t have nominated John McCain in the first place.”
He wasn’t my first choice, but he’s the only man who can keep the Presidency from going to a completely inexperienced, unqualified, far left, self-absorbed jackass.
John McCain is a patriot and a good man. Barack Obama is neither. McCain is solid on defense and the economy. Obama is not. The choice is easy for real conservatives.
Faux conservatives will continue to wet their pants no matter what happens. These were the geniuses who thought it was a great idea to lose Congress in ‘06, how did that work out for you?
NoDonkey on July 28, 2008 at 2:19 PM
With her being an ER nurse, it shouldn’t be too hard to convince her that her stance on Universal Health Care doesn’t make good sense for her, or for her patients.
hillbillyjim on July 28, 2008 at 2:26 PM
A nurse wanting government run healthcare. Its official, most people are SHEEP.
She has a collar around her next and she is just upset the right person isn’t going to take the end of the leash.
Move to Canada lady.
DavidM on July 28, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Yeah right. Doctors will charge assloads of crap on the government’s tab because most western governments are run by pussies who are too scared to say “no” to their employees.
Darth Executor on July 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM
If they keep Hillary from getting put in nomination at the democratic convention I think McCain wins the election. The Dems have a problem.
duff65 on July 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM
freevillage on July 28, 2008 at 2:17 PM
So a useful idiot accuses Hot Air commenters of being “totalitarian” without providing an iota of evidence to back up that ludicrous allegation. Why am I not suprised?
Buy Danish on July 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM
“I’m finished with the democrat party”.
I thought they were supposed to be called the democratic party?
kurtzz3 on July 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Interesting story but when I got to “ER nurse” I figured it was just another prima donna who is getting even for things not going her way.
snaggletoothie on July 28, 2008 at 2:34 PM
41…, a little late to finally grow up, but better late than never.
Alden Pyle on July 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM
I know a Hillary-ite who is steaming mad about Obama being given half the Michigan primary delegates even though he did not run in Michigan.
I give her credit for intelligence.
You cannot keep re-running elections until the right people get on the ballot.
You cannot hand out votes according to what you think someone would have gotten had they been in an election.
You cannot change election results to be more fair
Unless you are the cirrent Democratic party handlers
Democrats were well trained by the Florida-Gore to chant ’selected not elected’. They never thought it would happen to them. Shucks
entagor on July 28, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Imagine this set of events:
1. Obama “beats” Clinton
2. Clintons pulls out of the spotlight for months
3. Obama takes a beating from the McCain campaign
4. Clinton wins floor vote at DNC convention
5. Clinton makes Obama her VP candidate
6. McCain struggles to launch an entirely new campaign against Clinton-Obama before the election
Get your popcorn ready folks!
Seixon on July 28, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Maybe HA can start a collection to get her a ticket and hotel room.
peacenprosperity on July 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Obama will use that 57 state strategy to pull this out.
wildweasel on July 28, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Otherwise, the note would have been: “Dear Lord, I wanna’ be da’ pres’dent…PleezePleezePleeze…Amen”
whudda’ phony
franksalterego on July 28, 2008 at 3:37 PM
dose this mean her brain hasnt hatched into a little chick ???
Mojack420 on July 28, 2008 at 3:40 PM
A refugee from communism trying to remake the conditions he fled from here in his new homeland. Why am I not surprised?
TheBigOldDog on July 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM
I was a strong supporter of Hillary’s and this woman is right, you need to compare resumes and decide who’s the best candidate to lead our country. McCain wins by default since Obama lacks one.
jtorres138 on July 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM
What would the rules be for donating to support a PUMA convention in a hotel near the Dem Convention? Debra B could chair it!
OBQuiet on July 28, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Tee hee.
baldilocks on July 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM
LOL…my thoughts as well!
brtex on July 28, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Only the underwear.
landlines on July 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
She called it the Democrat party. This means something. My take is not that she’s your feminist throwing a tantrum but rather someone who’s been converted.
- The Cat
MirCat on July 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
It ain’t over ’til the
fatpantsuit lady sings.davidk on July 28, 2008 at 6:41 PM
This might be true for ‘private practice’ doctors (if such a thing exists under government run healthcare), but not for government funded hospitals and ERs. They can overcharge all they want, but it won’t raise the pay for the government employed employees. The overcharging will be redirected into more excessive government programs, while the average salary for hospital employees gets slashed.
Gregor on July 28, 2008 at 6:45 PM
If you ignore reality, I guess. I have a problem calling a man a patriot who feels that the country of Mexico is his number one priority. I call that a traitor. So do many millions of others. That’s right. Millions. Millions of Americans who will have an awfully tough time driving to the voting booths to elect a man who makes a habit of calling them racists, or telling them to “shut up.”
Allah can continually predict that we’ll all hold our nose and vote for the creep in the end, but the numbers will prove him wrong in the end. If McCain wins, it won’t be because conservatives held their noses. It will be because Hillary supporters voted for the liberal nominee of the Republican Party.
Gregor on July 28, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I wouldn’t regard Bartoshevich just yet as having attained sanity.
docdave on July 28, 2008 at 7:02 PM
I consider myself a real conservative, so I’ll be voting for a conservative candidate, thank you very much. It won’t be McCain. When the Republican Party becomes a conservative party again, I may rejoin them. Until then, there’s not much difference between them and the Democrats.
Stashiu3 on July 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM
If the Dems do not allow a floor vote, will it be a “Mugabe” election?
OldEnglish on July 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Better they eat their own than gnaw on my wallet.
profitsbeard on July 28, 2008 at 10:33 PM
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