Video: Obama defends skipping trip to visit troops; Update: McCain camp unloads
posted at 2:15 pm on July 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Two clips, one from his interview with Fox and one from his presser on Downing Street. Team McCain thinks his statements here are inconsistent because, supposedly, with Fox he’s stressing that he didn’t want to distract from the troops and in the presser he’s stressing that he didn’t want it to be perceived as political. I don’t see the distinction, since he goes on to say in the presser that his main concern in having the event be perceived as political is that the hospital would end up caught in an Obama/McCain crossfire which would in turn … distract from the troops. But judge for yourself. Either way, he and his team have handled this lamely, first suggesting that they’d arrived independently at a judgment that the visit would appear too political, then hinting that the Pentagon had sandbagged them by dropping DoD regs on them at the eleventh hour, then finally backing off and copping to what appears to be the truth — that someone in the campaign, possibly Ret. Gen. Gration, pitched a fit because the regs wouldn’t let military advisors go with Obama to the hospital, whereupon Obama inexplicably decided he wouldn’t go either. For all the heat McCain’s justifiably taken this week for amateurishness, this is twice as bush league and in a more serious context. Embarrassing.
But never mind that. If it’s insight you want about Obama, pay attention to the very end of the Fox clip, where Hemmer talks about asking him whether anything he’d seen on the trip had given him second thoughts about his policies — a particularly urgent question given that even the AP is admitting this afternoon that we’re on our way to victory in Iraq. If you missed last night’s quote of the day from John Dickerson at Slate, read it now. Even the left (the non-kneejerk left, at least) is starting to worry.
Update: Via Team Maverick, Ret. Lt. Col. (and friend of Ed) Joe Repya lowers the boom:
Today, retired Lt. Colonel Joe Repya issued the following statement on Barack Obama’s cancelled visit to Ramstein and Landstuhl:
“The most solemn duty of a commander in chief is to fulfill his responsibility to the men and women who serve this country in uniform. Barack Obama had scheduled a visit with wounded American troops who have served with honor and distinction in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he broke that commitment, instead flitting from one European capital to the next. Several explanations were offered, none was convincing and each was at odds with the statements of American military leaders in Germany and Washington. For a young man so apt at playing president, Barack Obama badly misjudged the important demands of the office he seeks. Visits with world leaders and speeches to cheering Europeans shouldn’t be a substitute for comforting injured American heroes.”
Army Lieutenant Colonel (Retired) Joe Repya served 30 years of duty and three wars, Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. He was born in 1946 in Gary, Indiana. He was the oldest son of a disabled combat wounded veteran of the European Campaign of World War II. Awarded an ROTC scholarship he attended Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI, graduating in 1969. Upon graduation he was appointed to the Regular Army as a Second Lieutenant in the Infantry. His 30 years of service in the US Army (12 years Active and 18 years in the National Guard & Reserves) lasted from 1969 until 2006. He served as a Combat Infantry Rifle Platoon Leader in Viet Nam in 1970/71 with the 2nd Battalion, 506th Infantry Regiment (Band of Brothers “Currahee’s”), and an Aero Rifle Platoon Leader with A Troop, 2nd Squadron, 17th Cavalry Regiment. In Desert Storm 1990/91, he served as a Combat Helicopter Pilot and Staff Officer with the 4th Brigade (Aviation), 1st Infantry Division (The Big Red One). He initially retired in 1998.
After the terrorist attack of September 11, 2001, he was one of 12,000 US Army retirees who volunteered for Retiree Recall to Active US Army duty for Operation Iraqi Freedom. LTC Repya was selected as one of only 350 retirees who were returned to active duty status. At 58 years old on October 1, 2004 he returned as an Aviation Branch Officer for two more additional years of active duty service with the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, KY. He served for nine months as the G-3 Air for the Division. In 2005 he served as the Senior Liaison Officer for the 101st Airborne Division with the Multi National Corps Headquarters at Camp Victory, Baghdad, Iraq. He reentered retired status at the end of September 2006 at the age of 60.
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No wonder his mouth is so big, he talks out of both sides of it.
DoctorDentons on July 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM
His reply bends logic like a black hole bends space.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 2:23 PM
One word - Liar. It’s as simple as that.
marklmail on July 26, 2008 at 2:23 PM
If he had shown up to visit the troops, then there would have been one of those photos with the crossed fingers taken, you just know it. The McCainiacs would have been ecstatic with glee. If no photo was taken, then the McCainiacs like Captain Ed would have denounced it as political pandering.
The point of the trip was to meet with the heads of Government around the world, not visit the troops. To that end, he had lots of photo ops while McCain visited the house of sausage. Overall, I think that Obama won this week, even with his gaffs.
It’s amazing to me as a Conservative. How is it that no matter how badly Obama does in a week, McCain insists on doing something worse?
Next week, we’ll have to watch for McCain coming out and proposing the 55MPH speed limit as part of his immigration amnesty plan, that way we’ll keep from killing illegal immigrants as they run across the highway.
Snake307 on July 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM
IN 52 SECS WHY BARACK OBAMA WON’T WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs
bnelson44 on July 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Another good and related video:
The Obama Iraq Documentary: Whatever the Politics Demand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHEIi4XKRmM
bnelson44 on July 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM
This is the politics of ambiguity, is it not? Of course he can get away with saying that his “policies” have been “hardened.” On one side, who has actually pinpointed his Iraq policy? Immediate withdrawal? 16 Mo. to withdrawal? Time horizons + Flexibility? What is it exactly? It also works on the other side: By not being specific in what his policy is, he can point to whatever it will need to be and say that that is what his “hardened” position looks like. This is all just stupid, and freaking frustrating to no end. This guy is a joke.
Weight of Glory on July 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM
What kind of morons does he think they are at the military hospital in Germany? The presence of a political candidate would “distract” and “confuse” them so badly that they’d start stumbling around bumping into walls and jabbing each other with hypodermics and giving the wrong medications and cutting off the wrong limbs in surgery? I think they could have handled your presence there, Barry. Your brilliance would not have blinded them.
aero on July 26, 2008 at 2:36 PM
One word - Liar. It’s as simple as that.
One word - Liar. It’s as simple as that.
One word - Liar. It’s as simple as that.
One word - Liar. It’s as simple as that.
One word - Liar. It’s as simple as that.
.
Liar.
ONE word yet used many, many times and seemingly ubiquitous in the B. Hussein Capmaign.
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What’s the saying? Whenever he opens his mouth?
And he does it so well, and so effortlessly… BJ Clinton, you’ve been out done.
shooter on July 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Racist remarks are not allowed here.
eaglesdontflock on July 26, 2008 at 2:40 PM
A real person, an honest person just does NOT stutter and stammer as much as a liar like BH Nobama.
shooter on July 26, 2008 at 2:41 PM
If the dims win, it will be with mistruths and deception. Last night Laura Ingraham was interviewing Wolfson on Obama not visiting the troops and how Obama could be seen as passing them up because it wouldn’t be a photo-op. Wolfson said Obama’s commitment to the troops is unquestioned and is not an issue. The only person who would believe that garbage is a brainwashed dim. The sad part there are so many dims whose grandaddy voted for dims and that is good enough for them. Racism and class envy reinforced by lies and deception is all they have.
volsense on July 26, 2008 at 2:42 PM
He didn’t go because he doesn’t care about wounded troops. The only reason he was going was to help his propaganda effort. Once that plan fell through he decided to go work out instead.
See, you don’t visit wounded troops for yourself. You do it for them. To thank them for their sacrifice and maybe help raise their spirits. Nobody told him he had to do it. Nobody told him couldn’t do it. Nobody told him to tell the world he was even planning on doing it. These are all decision HE MADE and it speaks volumes about his priorities.
TheBigOldDog on July 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Honestly, I cannot listen to this man. On top of the lying, his voice, his cadence, his stuttering, his stummering is beyond grating. The funny part is he’s not worthy to clean a soldier’s boot, but his handlers and his ego think he’s too good to be in their presence.
SouthernGent on July 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Hardened?
Like JELL-O.
shooter on July 26, 2008 at 2:45 PM
An understanding of Obama can be found by understanding and researching David Axelrod.
This is a suspension of belief movie production, and its similarity to The Manchurian Candidate is eerie. I have more misgivings daily about the health of our republic when something like this can happen, a poseur candidate for the most powerful office in the land.
I just don’t get it. Where are you America?
eaglesdontflock on July 26, 2008 at 2:47 PM
“Nobody knows that I went to Walter Reed and sacrificed (five minutes of) time away from the election. I say, NOBODY KNOWS I WENT TO WR. TO SEE THE TROOPS.” (As said in numerous interviews and photo ops) What a humble man. “Got wind” that it might become political and might interupt the tremendous care the wounded are getting. I don’t think Roto-Ruter has enough pipe snakes to unclog the bs out of that pipeline.
This is what the far left wants to elect. Four to eight years (ten by his count) of this kind of lies and incredible ego.
He has NO concern for our wounded, let alone our military. Now he doesn’t even have any concern for his staff that he so eagerly throws under the bus. Tell us Chosen One, which staff member(s) thought it would be too political and have you fired them?
oakpack on July 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM
A real person, an honest person just does NOT stutter and stammer as much as a liar like BH Nobama.
shooter on July 26, 2008 at 2:41 PM
“Taqiyah” will do that to a person; they’re stammering so much, they’re trying to figure out what to lie about next!
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I SAID NOBODY KNOW I WENT TO WALTER REED, DID YOU GET THAT?
eaglesdontflock on July 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Well said! Exactly…the answer is…he didn’t go because he didn’t want to.
AUINSC on July 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM
The polls yesterday showed a slight bump for Barry…about 2 points, but they were all samples before he landed in Europe. I’m interested in seeing up coming Tuesday polls. He’ll get a big bump in Denver but I’m sure this trip was planned out to buttress that. Breaks my heart that he came off as a bottle of Ripple instead of a bottle of Don Perignon.
Limerick on July 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM
No politician visits more wounded troops than…John Murtha.
Nice to see all the support he getting here.
alphie on July 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM
The point of the trip was to allow BO to grant himself a plastic Participation Trophy with the inscription “Foreign Policy Expert” engraved on it.
The level of pandering a troop visit would have risen to may very well have been pointed out on the blogs, but not by the McC campaign. It would have been off-limits there.
He didn’t back out of a scheduled event for fear of the “No Win Scenario”. He did it because he couldn’t film it for effect. His advance team may have also found that his presence there wouldn’t be warmly received. Better to spin the blame at the Pentagon and, by extension, the Bush/McCain “Team”.
It plays well in Berkley.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Spoken like a self-deluded elitist apostle of Obama.
Obama’s contempt for our military is showing.
What a disaster it would be for this country if this empty headed, empty suit were to occupy the White House for four years.
JayHaw Phrenzie on July 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Dom….(lim strikes again)
Limerick on July 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
whatever do you mean?
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Just saw the update. I’ve heard Col. Repya on numerous occassions and even got to see him one time. Proud is the first word coming to mind.
oakpack on July 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM
This has to be one of the biggest piles of crap he has ever spewed.
Anyone with conviction and ethics would have visited the troops despite what the perception would have been for the fact that anyone with conviction and ethics would not have been swayed otherwise!
He saw (and somewhat admitted) that the visit wouldn’t poll well, so he did not do it. What an waste of space.
geckomon on July 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
I think you meant to say that no politician falsely accuses American troops of Murder and war crimes than the repugnant John Murtha. It would be more accurate.
JayHaw Phrenzie on July 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
“For a young man so apt at playing president, Barack Obama badly misjudged the important demands of the office he seeks. Visits with world leaders and speeches to cheering Europeans shouldn’t be a substitute for comforting injured American heroes.”
bnelson44 on July 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
You must have missed the Dallas City Council meeting:-)
eaglesdontflock on July 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Link?
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM
ouch.
Quisp on July 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Exactly the point I made to my Mother, not an hour ago.
He didn’t stutter when talking about people clinging to their guns and their churches and cowering in fear at those who are “different from themselves”.
You don’t stutter when speaking from the heart.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Here is the background,
eaglesdontflock on July 26, 2008 at 3:04 PM
FOX just quoted Col. Repya
oakpack on July 26, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Sorry, kinda like Obama, the link is there it’s just invisible to the naked eye. You know, like Obama’s positions.
eaglesdontflock on July 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Only problem is, that he gave that information to Mike Allen of Politico to spread around the media-sphere thro’ his daily-morning-blast. It was mentioned all over the media of his “secret” trip.
Anita on July 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
He should have just taken a little time and gone over there and shook some hands. What could it have hurt? The fact that he did not see the problem here, is a problem itself.
Terrye on July 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Not a Murtha fan at all, but The Nation says he’s been visiting Walter Reed weekly since the beginning of the war, and googling for link I saw several mentions of his frequent visits. Credit where it’s due, he seems to have been remarkably consistent in his commitment there.
Quisp on July 26, 2008 at 3:09 PM
i saw it.
i just refuse to be cowed from using a good simile.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Well, it may be true…but to be correct..it’s the Nation (a truly non-political magazine) quoting Murha saying that he goes almost every week…to hear about how demorialized they are about the war…but even taking the fact that he visits in the best light, it’s cancelled out by his false accusations of murder against innocent troops anyway..
AUINSC on July 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
That’s a really great line, if only the McCain campaign had the sense to make that meme stick. They should have been saying this sort of thing all week. Why wait until Saturday afternoon, when his base are out mowing the lawn and watching their kids play ball?
Lee on July 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM
The Nation, eh? The self-named flagship of the Left? Well I suppose that the visits are easily verified.
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Obama’s ad buy for the Olympics might be a laugher too when his mug fades from screen and the next shot is the smog hiding the Beijing skyline.
Limerick on July 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Really? Then why did Obama’s campaign schedule the visit with the wounded troops months before the trip began, and why did they state that Obama would be visiting the wounded troops in order to express his thanks to them?
AZCoyote on July 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM
No, Snake, that is not correct. The point of the visit was to make Obama look presidential. As the McCain camp points out Obama was playing president. That is fine, that is part of the game of politics, a game Obama plays exceptionally well. But let’s get the goal of this trip straight.
bnelson44 on July 26, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I hate Murtha, but I think you will find that the Nation is correct here.
bnelson44 on July 26, 2008 at 3:30 PM
While Team McCain may be winning an occasional skirmish at a remote outpost, although I’m not so sure that starting off by saying “The most solemn duty of a commander in chief is to fulfill his responsibility to the men and women who serve this country in uniform” is even doing that as the Presidential oath of office says “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States“, Team “Change and
HyperboleHope seems to be winning the war for the electorate.PRINCETON, NJ — Barack Obama has stretched his lead over John McCain among national registered voters to seven percentage points, 48% to 41%, in Gallup Poll Daily tracking conducted July 23-25.
Earlier this week, Obama and McCain were separated by just two to four points, but that was before the extensive U.S. news coverage of the last leg of Obama’s foreign tour.
Obama’s particularly large leads over McCain in Friday and Saturday’s tracking suggest that the massive publicity surrounding Obama’s speech at the Victory Tower in Berlin on Friday — the only major public event of the trip — and coverage of Obama’s meetings with the heads of state in France and Germany may have tilted U.S. voter preferences more in his favor.
Notably, Obama’s current seven-point lead over McCain ties his widest since the start of Gallup Poll Daily tracking of the general election in early March, and was achieved only once previously.
- Gallup
MB4 on July 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM
As has W and his missus, his girls, VP and Mrs. Cheney, Rumsfeld,Rice, McCormick et all. Funny, but rarely does the press mention this. I suppose it only counts when a Lib/Dem makes the trek. Bush visits troops…..nah, that just doesn’t fit the template. I’d dearly love to witness murtha on a visit, yea, there’s a politician the military dearly loves and would be so glad to see. HA!
dustoffmom on July 26, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Yep, MB4, he received a 2 point bump yesterday in the Gallup national track. He is smokin ahead.
Limerick on July 26, 2008 at 3:42 PM
correct in what? that Murtha has visited repeatedly? did he start doing that after his attack on our troops or has he been going every weekend for the last 20 years? does his going absolve him of his responsibility for his accusations or is he using his visits as a shield?
there are many “beards” people can wear to hide their true selves. the “beard” doesn’t change reality, it just hides it.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 3:47 PM
It’s PC OK now.
MB4 on July 26, 2008 at 3:52 PM
She’s watching, and making a significant decision between a semblance of remaining sanity, and oblivion, a.k.a. commonality, a.k.a. socialism, which is the intermediate step to Marxism.
Entelechy on July 26, 2008 at 3:56 PM
I think it is HUGE that when caught, the Axelrod instinct was to blame the Pentagon rather than just take the hit.
Still the headline on the Sun-Times website:
Pentagon tells Obama not to visit U.S. troops at German base because it would be too political
The Pentagon “viewed this as a campaign event and therefore they said he should not come,” Axelrod said. Obama has been at the base in previous overseas trips. He visited with troops–even played basketball–when he touched down in Kuwait during the Iraq and Afghanistan leg of his swing.
Obama’s people told Mitchell and Sweet that the Pentagon told them not to go. This is the guy that wants to be CinC. Caught in a political conundrum, they smear the Pentagon. Amazing.
MayBee on July 26, 2008 at 4:07 PM
The very FIRST line in an article in today’s UK Telegraph, about the new Prophet, Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SWT)(SAW):
“In a magazine interview Obama and his wife Michelle revealed that one of their steadfast house rules is not giving Christmas or birthday presents to Malia, 10, and Sasha, seven.”
Interesting, isn’t it?
I wonder how many other normal households in the US have strict guidelines against both Christmas and Birthday presents?
Obviously Jewish households don’t celebrate Christmas, but they do celebrate Birthdays!
Hmmmmmmmm……..
Oh yeah, MUSLIMS don’t celebrate either Christmas NOR Birthdays!
Interesting, no?
Can you spell, “Taqiyah“???
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 4:07 PM
The only two recent polls (per RCP) now have him 7 points ahead (Gallup Tracking) and 6 points ahead (Rasmussen Tracking).
It’s like the old saying, “You don’t have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the other guy”.
MB4 on July 26, 2008 at 4:07 PM
MayBee on July 26, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Dude…IMHO, that’s not helping…but that’s just me.
AUINSC on July 26, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Perceived as political….by whom?
MayBee on July 26, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Be fair. That NM poll is also on RCP and dated the same as the daily tracking. The ‘bump’ on both polls was 2 points from the day before.
Granted, it’s early and between now and 9-15 we are going to have polls up and down like a yo-yo (and yes I believe McCain is behind - but not as much as he should be).
Limerick on July 26, 2008 at 4:14 PM
I don’t think our troops want or need Nobama’s brand of “comforting.”
Last is First on July 26, 2008 at 4:17 PM
So… I can kneecap or mug nuns all day, but if I coach basketball for the Boys Club at night, it’s a wash?
wccawa on July 26, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Dude…IMHO, that’s not helping…but that’s just me.
AUINSC on July 26, 2008 at 4:14 PM
I know, I know, it’s never helpful when you point out the uncomfortable truth!
My brother found that out the hard way, when he pointed out to his Liberal “friends” that it was ironic that Obama claimed to be an “African-American”, when
a) he’s 50% white
b) he has no “African-American” blood in his veins, he has 50% pure African blood in his veins..
c) his African ancestors were never Slaves, they were Slave Masters & Sellers, in East Africa
Hence his self-radicalization, his identification with the real American black experience, is one of the greatest cases of self-deception and fraud, ever to be perpetrated upon the American people!
This recipient of more Benefits and Affirmitive Action rewards than you and I could EVER hope for:
a) $14,000 per year Prep School as a teenager
b) Columbia University
c) Harvard Law School
d) Harvard Law Review President
e) Two Book Contracts, one of which he clearly violated the terms of, and yet was given ANOTHER one as a “reward”
f) two Best-Selling Works of Fiction, that pass as “Autobiographies”; in which a multitude of lies, fabrications, ‘composite” characterizations, etc. have already been proven, and more are found every day, as they are deservedly closely scrutinized..
And the best this ass-clown can come up with, is that
a) his grandmother was “uncomfortable” one time, when some “black” guy tried to get money out of her..
b) he had a couple of white friends in highschool come to a “black party” and they “smiled alot”; hence the MUST be racist!
Those are the TWO events he’s used to explain his self-radicalization and identification, FALSELY, as an “African-American”.
Not the Muslim birthright, the Muslim schooling and Koran lessons, not the Muslim Call to Pray, not the influence of his Communist Grandfather, his Anti-American/Communist Mother; his “mentoring” by the Communist Frank Marshall Davis; his radical Anti-American/Anti-White/Anti-Semitic Arab friends from College onwards: Palestinian Professors, Edward Siad, Rezko, the Iraqi Electicity Ministoer, Ayers, Dorhn, ad naseum…
Not of that is allowed to be discussed, or pointed out, nor highlighted, because as my brother’s liberal friends, pointedly told him:
“that may all be true, but just to discuss it, or talk about it, is offensive and racist”!
Okay, I understand the Rules now; we’re just supposed to let this most Empty-suited, Fraudulent of “Politicians” in my lifetime, Bullshit his way into the Oval Office, and proceed to destroy this country!
Okay, I got it, thanks…
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 4:36 PM
okie-dokie
AUINSC on July 26, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Remember, only one of them, at least at a time, can be as much behind as he should be.
MB4 on July 26, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Dale, most of your comment is pertinent, but what’s the logic behaind this?
He’s a black American, that is, an American with some African descent, most of whom have some white and/or other ancestry. End of story. This is not a new concept.
And what does it have to do with his qualifications to be president?
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Forgive the spelling and grammar errors.
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Homie Obama and Squire Obama.
MB4 on July 26, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Does this mean that anyone who has such an education “isn’t really black?”
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Sorry, you can discuss whatever you like. I just gave my opinion that the ‘Obama is really a muslim’ meme is the absolutely meaningless as a political criticism…and, to me at least, sounds off-base…especially since you are posting on a blog where the Obama supporter population can probably be counted on 2 hands…
AUINSC on July 26, 2008 at 4:59 PM
He’s a black American, that is, an American with some African descent, most of whom have some white and/or other ancestry. End of story. This is not a new concept.
And what does it have to do with his qualifications to be president?
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Baldilocks; I never said he wasn’t qualified to be President, regardless of his ancestory; never said, nor implied it.
But you are wrong, he has NO “African-American” ancestory; which is what he has claimed, and what he has self-radicalized with and self-identified with, and it is false!
His father was born, and raised in Kenya, in Africa; with NO “African-American” ties, blood, whatsoever.
What that means is, it is fradulent for him to pretend that his ancenstors, any of them, were “African-American”; they were not; they were white Americans and pure African.!
Thus, his many claims to basically be carrying the legacy of Slavery, and Jim Crow in America are patentedly False!
His ancestor’s legacy is whatever his mother’s and her white ancestors was, plus his African Father’s and his ancestors was; which in this case, his father’s ancestors in East Africa were Slave masters and slave sellers; NOT “slaves”; IF he was actually an American “black” or an American “African-American”.
Does that disqualify him to be President of the United States….Absolutely Not, since he is a legally born US Citizen.
Does it make him a lying fraudulent hypocrite who self-radicalized, and who delusionally has adopted the painful legacy of racism against American blacks, as his own???
The aswer is Yes!
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 5:02 PM
So, what was that visit to Iraq? How was that not a campaign stop?
Black Adam on July 26, 2008 at 5:04 PM
I don’t care if he’s got African American ancestory. I care that he blamed the Pentagon when his campaign got itself in a bind.
MayBee on July 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Does this mean that anyone who has such an education “isn’t really black?”
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Nope, I never said that, and never implied that; and now you are playing the typical Lefty game of twisting the words, and the intent, and moving the goalposts, and trying to imply I’m a “racist”.
The problem with that approach, is that I’m in a mixed marriage myself, and that dog don’t hunt!
My point, as I made clear, is that he has pretended that he came from humble roots, and had to overcome this great, Civil Rights epic-like struggle, just like his demonstrable lie that he “worked his way thru college”, and none of its true, he’s a complete and utter fraud..
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Obama is “both”. A two-fer.
MB4 on July 26, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I don’t care if he’s got African American ancestory. I care that he blamed the Pentagon when his campaign got itself in a bind.
MayBee on July 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I don’t care if he was freaking green, and a Martian!
I DO care that he is: a liar, a fraud, an empty suit, dangerously naive and stupid, a known prevaricator, a known dissembler, a known Marxist sympathizer, a known Racist (along with his wife), and an obvious Anti-American; a friend and colleague to Anti-American/Anti-White/Anti-Semitic Jihadi Sympathizers, terrorists and criminals.
THAT is what I care about!
And so should you!
And all those FACTS, are PROVEN!
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Exactly.
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 5:27 PM
So why did you post about his DNA heritage? It has nothing to do with the above-mentioned.
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Agreed. In the smorgasbord of Obamagaffes, reversals, and cold bodies of former political associates and friends, there is much to revel in regarding Barack’s foibles without harping on the taqiyya angle.
Besides, his Muslim heads of state friends remind us constantly that *they* consider him to be one of them. So let them do the heavy lifting in this case. Their words and perceptions mean far more than anyone else’s, on that particular subject.
Wanderlust on July 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM
I served at Landstuhl in 06/07.Buccoo wounded,lots of visitors,Pro football players,cheerleaders,baseball players,rock,rap,country stars,Vips up the gazop.Ambassadors from everywhere.Generals,SGT Majors,congressmen/women,Miss Americas,Mrs Americas,Miss Europe,lots of other Misses.It was a daily, daily.The troops liked it,the staff liked it.Everybody got pictures.They even published them in the local base papers.It was no big deal,but it was military photogs only.They did stop Cindy Sheehan from coming but that didn’t upset many.The bit about the unhappy General sounds like a little BS to me.It was easy to get clearance,you just had to ask.If you met the security rules you got in.Maybe BHO”s bunch didn’t.
michael griggs on July 26, 2008 at 5:38 PM
So why did you post about his DNA heritage? It has nothing to do with the above-mentioned.
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 5:28 PM
It categorically does, and that was the central part of my theme, that he is a self-radicalized Fraud!
And if you read it carefully, you’ll see my other point, was that my brother, the Liberal that he is, has been viciously attacked and ostracized by his fellow Liberals, because he was tired of sitting there, listening to their slobbering worship of Obama, with every other comment out of their mouths saying “this is so good for America, because he’s African-American”, and “I’m voting for him becaues he’s African-American, I don’t even care what he stands for…”.
And when my brother had the temerity to point out, that in the context of which they meant it, meaning that Obama was descended from American blacks, who’s ancestors had been subjected to the horrific institution of Slavery, then Jim Crow, and the obvious and blatant racism associated with both those terrible periods in hour history, that it was incorrect to apply that to Obama’s own background, history, and upbringing, despite his fraudlent attempts to include himself in those experiences, by continually invoking Martin Luther King; claiming his very conception was the result of the March on Selma, stating that he remembered the “I have a Dream” speech when he was only 4 years old, etc., and all the other Blatant lies he’s told about his background..
When my brother instead, pointed out, that Obama was actually have AFRICAN, who’s African ancestors were Slave owners and slave masters, instead, he was first told that “that is untrue”; he’s “an American black”; then when he proved it; he was told that it’s “offensive” and “racist” to even point out that Obama is actually half “African” instead of half “African-American”; that it doesn’t matter what he really IS; it only matters what he identifies with, and claims he is!
Now that, is sick, twisted, delusional, typical Leftist thinking!
And it is obvious from all my posts on this subject, what I mean, what I was implying, and what this means!
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 5:42 PM
why cant barry just go visit the toops by himself?
custer on July 26, 2008 at 5:52 PM
OH yea, the last thing he wants to do is distract! LMAO!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!! yea right!
Chakra Hammer on July 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM
And thank God the Obama isn’t the Command-in-Chief..
Chakra Hammer on July 26, 2008 at 6:05 PM
AerObama to make a turn-around in 5…4…3…2…
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 26, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Made sense to me.
While, as a conservative, I wouldn’t view a candidate’s race as personally relevant I know that others would. Especially from the left. What they would say about a conservative minority would be nothing but a racial and racist attack. Issues would be irrelevant. But we all know it wouldn’t be framed that way.
Conversely, a minority candidate with heavily leftist leanings is considered a member of a protected group. Therefore, anyone daring to say literally anything negative is immediately broadbrushed as a racist. It doesn’t matter what their previous political or social positions were. There are no second chances on the left unless you get back to toeing the line and throw yourself under the nearest bus.
You can be a former leading member of the KKK, you can have a revolving door of women accusing you of numerous crimes, you can get sweetheart loans from Countrywide, but you can’t question the facts as they are presented by the hivemind of the leftists.
I would love to see the day when race is a true non-issue. But Obama’s candidacy proves that now is not that day. His race trumps everything, including his own personal history, in the eyes of far too many people.
We can’t win the “wars” on poverty, drugs, racism, hunger, disease, etc. as long as fighting those wars are industries onto themselves.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 6:24 PM
No excuse: a major humanitarian and political misstep to avoid the wounded.
It’s like he knows he isn’t respected, so why bother?
Exit stage left.
Randy
williars on July 26, 2008 at 6:33 PM
I would love to see the day when race is a true non-issue. But Obama’s candidacy proves that now is not that day. His race trumps everything, including his own personal history, in the eyes of far too many people.
Culturalist: the crazy thing, the ONLY people making an “issue” of his “race”; are HE and HIS
supportersworshippers and the Media….Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 6:39 PM
You know, that link is actually very interesting, but not because it provides any evidence about your tired tin foil hat theory that he’s a closet Muslim.
If the story is true, it shows that the Obama’s have odd ideas about raising children. Indeed, I’m curious as to whether Barry and Michelle exchange birthday and/or Christmas gifts, or if it’s only their daughters who are put on a gift diet.
Buy Danish on July 26, 2008 at 6:42 PM
You know, that link is actually very interesting, but not because it provides any evidence about your tired tin foil hat theory that he’s a closet Muslim.
Buy Danish on July 26, 2008 at 6:42 PM
I have provided WAY more evidence, on this Blog, that I am correct, than you, or any of the detractors have provided that I am incorrect.
In fact, you and your fellow detractros have NO evidence that I am wrong, except your own naive beliefs; whereas I have reams of evidence to the contrary.
Deal with it!
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 6:55 PM
exactly.
personally, I don’t think it’s a closet Muslim kind of thing. if it’s just an attempt by wealthy parents to not spoil their children, then I can relate.
what I wonder is how this practice relates to the church they attend. is this a common theme there? we did hear that 401k’s are a no no. are birthday gifts and Christmas presents too middle class as well?
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 6:58 PM
if it’s just an attempt by wealthy parents to not spoil their children, then I can relate.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 6:58 PM
IF that’s the case, I can relate; I’ve known “wealthy” parents; they don’t spoil their kids by NOT giving them $100K worth of toys and cars every birthday, and X-mas; they reign it in, and also make them work and “earn” things and do chores, etc.
They also set limits, and teach their children values and ethics, and compassion for those less fortunate, etc.; they don’t outlaw X-mas & Birthday gifts altogether??
Besides, if you listen to the Michelle Obama “narrative” of their lives, they are NOT “weathy”; they’re struggling, and hardup, and its all because America is a mean place that doesn’t deserve her pride; life is tough for the Obama’s according to her; arugula is not sold everywhere, and they have to struggle to pay for all the dance lessons and private tutors and musical instrument lessons, etc.!
So, if, according to Michele, that are NOT “wealthy”, and they are not, according to hear, what could possibly be the reason, then?
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 7:08 PM
I had thought of mentioning this too. I know her public narrative. It’s as big a bunch of BS as everything else they gin up to feed the sheeple.
I hope, perhaps naively, that they aren’t depriving their children of gifts at what should be appropriate times, so that they will play their parts properly. Like when they hear MommaBama talk about how hard it is to get by, they will nod like they can relate.
She is the string puller in that family anyway. She scares me more than he does.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
All true.
However, the fact that others have different principles does not mean that conservatives should stoop to their level. Isn’t that the reason that we lambaste RINOs?
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 7:29 PM
She is the string puller in that family anyway. She scares me more than he does.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
No argument there…
Dale in Atlanta on July 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
So, by that logic, does that mean that a person who has a black American parent and an African parent is half “African-American?”
If you’re reading carefully, you would have read that I said that some of your points have merit.
Those who attacked your brother for telling the truth are haters of the truth, but that doesn’t mean that you should use their tactics. Connecting DNA to things that aren’t related to DNA such as fitness to be president is wrong, no matter the justness of the cause.
baldilocks on July 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM
not stooping to their level is one thing.
ignoring the reality of their “thought” process is another.
TheCulturalist on July 26, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Is there anyone, who when told there would be no cameras, who wouldn’t go see the troops anyway?
I’d have said “Ok, don’t need any damn press people anyway,” and gone to see the troops.
Any real American would. That’s the elephant in the room. Hussein didn’t/doesn’t give a rats backside about the troops.
dogsoldier on July 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM
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