Senate Republicans: None shall pass until drilling commences

posted at 8:55 am on July 24, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has laid down the gauntlet to Majority Leader Harry Reid on energy, according to The Hill.  Following the efforts of Tom Coburn and Jim DeMint, the Republican caucus has promised to obstruct any bills not pertaining to energy until the Senate votes on removing the remaining restrictions on off-shore drilling.  It promises to make the Senate the focus of high-profile political brinksmanship, and puts the Democrats in a tight spot with fuel prices impacting every aspect of the American economy:

Senate Republicans have threatened to block nearly all other bills pending before the August recess if Democrats refuse to vote with them on expanding offshore drilling.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said bills that do not pertain to energy can wait until after the August recess, with gas prices now surpassing $4 per gallon. McConnell and top Republicans indicated Wednesday they would oppose any procedural votes to take up other legislation, which require 60 votes to succeed. …

Following swift Senate action on the narrow energy bill, Reid wanted the Senate to approve a massive defense authorization bill, an overhaul of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, legislation to protect reporters’ sources, an extension of expiring energy tax incentives, and a major package of 33 bills held up by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).

But Republicans are planning to keep the Senate on the energy issue until their demands are resolved. The massive housing-rescue package might be the only other measure that gets valuable floor time before the August recess.

Reid wanted to buy off enough Republicans to keep them from forcing a vote on drilling. As I noted yesterday, the omnibus spending bill Reid has pushed includes a large number of bills co-sponsored by Republicans. Coburn told me yesterday that he thought he had enough Republican votes to stop the bill, and McConnell’s actions later proved him right.

It’s not even clear that Reid can keep all of the Democrats on board. Coburn predicted that Reid would whip his caucus hard to keep all 51 Democrats behind him while he tried to bribe ten Republicans away, but fuel prices have made Reid’s obstructionism on drilling a losing cause.  No one wants to go back home in August to explain to constituents why they blocked drilling in the OCS and the interior while people are paying twice as much for gas as they did before Reid and Nancy Pelosi took control of Congress.  Democrats know that Republicans are poised to expose this on a national basis, and that the electorate is angry enough about Congressional inaction on energy policy to listen.

Two-thirds of all voters support drilling in the OCS and going after shale in the interior.  Reid’s “coal and oil make us sick” nonsense has backfired.  Do Democrats want to explain how they supported that with a national election around the corner?

The GOP has a winning hand on energy.  Democrats have obstructed domestic production for decades while promising that alternative energy sources were just around the corner, and the bill for their short-sighted policies just came due.  Reid will have little choice but to accede to a vote on drilling — and expect it to have overwhelming bipartisan support when it occurs.


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tickleddragon on July 24, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Guess we’re lucky McCain is running for President. If he hadn’t gotten the nomination, this is exactly the kind of issue he would be siding with the democrats on.

Whizzman, you can throw around some of the stupidest straw men I’ve ever seen, but your candidates history is working against you. I’m fairly certain the only reason McCain came out on offshore drilling is the popularity of the issue; for someone so eager to use the federal boot to keep ANWR off limits, he was fairly hands off on shelf drilling; and we all remember the gang of 14. And of course, the many promises to secure the border even while he meets with La Raza. No, I’d put money on McCain siding with the Democrats on this one, had he not got the nomination. Guess there’s one good thing about his worthless candidacy.

Go McConnell..hope he sticks with it.

austinnelly on July 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM

Indeed.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM

you’re as surprised to hear mccain is a republican as I am huh?

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 10:54 AM

..you would be better suited bashing your head into a concrete wall.
carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 10:57 AM

I concur.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Whizzman, you can throw around…
austinnelly on July 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM

I think that you should also look into bashing your head into a concrete wall. Might possibly knock some sense into you. Possibly.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 11:01 AM

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 10:57 AM

bashing…oh you mean telling the truth about mccain!!

I’ve noticed truth does upset dems and moderates.

Unless you are just pulling for an Obama victory

and really, you think mccain will be much different? come on….we have decades of experience with mccain on the issues:

mccain-feingold
no drilling in ANWR (recently flipped on coastal)
AMNESTY for illegals
gang of 14
cap and trade
mccain lieberman gun show law
closing gitmo
opposing ‘torture’
voted against bush tax cuts

get the picture?

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:02 AM

I concur.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM

and all those years of bending over for democrats doesn’t disturb you fine conservative republicans???

mccain’s a liberal.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:03 AM

This election reminds me of another election where the Republican candidate had little use for conservatives. Mr. Dole was also a war hero.

Johan Klaus on July 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM

This election reminds me of another election where the Republican candidate had little use for conservatives. Mr. Dole was also a war hero.

Johan Klaus on July 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM

absolutely….and they want us to keep quiet and vote for them because they’re republicans…keep dreaming.

no more RINOS.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM

As long as rocketing it through doesn’t result in some lawmaker mistakes that allow oil companies to sidestep environmental responsibilities or tax responsibilities or whatever.

Dave Rywall on July 24, 2008 at 9:01 AM

In other words, claim that you’re for drilling but put so many impediments into the legislation, or hold it up in the courts indefinitely, because we must save the Furbish Lousewort dontcha know.

Buy Danish on July 24, 2008 at 9:27 AM

You’re both right of course. I agree with Dave’s statement completely, and wouldn’t have looked forward to the inevitable DemoRat undermining of U.S. economic policy if Buy Danish hadn’t pointed it out.

This will be their passive-aggressive position. Too cowardly to stick to their position, which is that $6 a gallon gasoline is “just a good start”, they will agree that we should drill, and then use their enviro-nutball base to try and make it impossible.

Jaibones on July 24, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Harry Reid responds to McConnell.

Carry on.

Jaibones on July 24, 2008 at 11:08 AM

bashing…oh you mean telling the truth about mccain!!

I’ve noticed truth does upset dems and moderates.

Unless you are just pulling for an Obama victory

and really, you think mccain will be much different? come on….we have decades of experience with mccain on the issues:

mccain-feingold
no drilling in ANWR (recently flipped on coastal)
AMNESTY for illegals
gang of 14
cap and trade
mccain lieberman gun show law
closing gitmo
opposing ‘torture’
voted against bush tax cuts

get the picture?

I take it by your moniker that you are pro-life? For someone to use that as a name here, abortion must be a very important issue for you?
M’Cain is much different than Obama on that issue. Doesn’t that matter to you?
Closing gitmo affects your day to day life in what way? With all the bad PR there it would probably not be a bad idea.
He voted against the Bush tax cuts because they did not go far enough. Research it.
He opposes torture, yes. Had you been stuck in a cage in Vietnam for 5 1/2 years having your arms broken and being bayoneted in the groin and beaten, perhaps you would be a tad sensitive on this issue, yes?
The gun show law really stands up as the most important issue of the election season! Forgot about taxes going through the roof or Obama’s SCOTUS appointees.
Gang of 14 ended up getting Alito and Thomas appointed. How bad is it again?
Cap and trade would hold violators of pollution accountable. Do you hate the environment?
ANWR: he flipped on coastal and may flip on ANWR. If he is such the hardheaded asshole that some make him out to be isn’t this a great sign that he is open to change? Not hope and change, but actual change that benefits the US?
M’Cain-Feingold is a disaster and I am pretty certain he knows that too.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM

where did all the pro-mccain people go? I thought they would be able to give me an abundance of examples demonstrating how conservative mccain is….

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM

As long as rocketing it through doesn’t result in some lawmaker mistakes that allow oil companies to sidestep environmental responsibilities or tax responsibilities or whatever.

Dave Rywall on July 24, 2008 at 9:01 AM

What caveat is whatever?

Johan Klaus on July 24, 2008 at 11:14 AM

I thought they would be able to give me an abundance of examples demonstrating how conservative mccain is….
right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM

For those who see no difference between McCain and the two Democrats, this serves as a reminder that while McCain drifts to the middle on some issues, a large chasm exists between the nominees that will face off in November. May 14, 2008

Perhaps you’d like to tell me how wrong the person who said this is? I’d very much like to see you try.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM

The Dems will try to pass some drill bill with a hundred caveats in it (no drilling without lengthy studies, tests, EPA, etc.), and point to the Republicans when they refuse to back it.
The Republicans need to grow some Malkins and make sure they present the bills first, or show that their bills were buried.
*
In other words the bills should be basically, “We start drilling tomorrow”.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM

I take it by your moniker that you are pro-life? For someone to use that as a name here, abortion must be a very important issue for you?

I don’t trust mccain on the issue of abortion. mccain voted to fund human embryo destruction for research. doesn’t he also support planned parenthood funding?

Closing gitmo affects your day to day life in what way? With all the bad PR there it would probably not be a bad idea.

yeah just treat them like common criminals…hopefully they’ll let them go in your neighborhood.

He voted against the Bush tax cuts because they did not go far enough. Research it.

this is really lame. shows the desperation of the mccain backers.

He opposes torture, yes. Had you been stuck in a cage in Vietnam for 5 1/2 years having your arms broken and being bayoneted in the groin and beaten, perhaps you would be a tad sensitive on this issue, yes?

what we are doing is NOT TORTURE..he agrees with the LEFT and SMEARS our country. pathetic.

and his rational is that if we don’t do it, neither will they…what BS.

The gun show law really stands up as the most important issue of the election season! Forgot about taxes going through the roof or Obama’s SCOTUS appointees.

yeah the gun show law is important to those who care about freedom. mccain will appoint people like souter.

Gang of 14 ended up getting Alito and Thomas appointed. How bad is it again?

and many judges not appointed.

Cap and trade would hold violators of pollution accountable. Do you hate the environment?

anybody who supports this scheme is an out and out socialist. and you use the typical BS tactics of the left…’do you hate the environment’ you’re not conservative.

ANWR: he flipped on coastal and may flip on ANWR. If he is such the hardheaded asshole that some make him out to be isn’t this a great sign that he is open to change? Not hope and change, but actual change that benefits the US?

its popular now so he changes….he’ll do the same to be popular in the press.

M’Cain-Feingold is a disaster and I am pretty certain he knows that too.

no he doesn’t.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Perhaps you’d like to tell me how wrong the person who said this is? I’d very much like to see you try.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Ed is a mccain supporter. but giving me some lame ACU rating is meaningless. you can’t argue the issues.

he can talk about this ‘chasm’ but I don’t see any specifics.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:23 AM

where did all the pro-mccain people go? I thought they would be able to give me an abundance of examples demonstrating how conservative mccain is….

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Read this and weep:

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Good call on Alito and Thomas, whatever the 14 did, this was monumental…shown in just the past couple of years that Supreme Court appointments trumps all other actions.
We know where McCain stands on that issue, hardly anything is more important…Supreme Court Justices, ruling for life.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM

Jaibones on July 24, 2008 at 11:08 AM

hahaa good one!

becki51758 on July 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Perhaps you’d like to tell me how wrong the person who said this is? I’d very much like to see you try.

link

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM

Read this and weep:

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM

keep dreaming.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Supreme Court Justices, ruling for life.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM

anyone who think mccain will appoint judges who would disagree with mccain feingold is dreaming.

and anyone who thinks the judges should be our rulers is not conservative.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM

He voted against the Bush tax cuts because they did not go far enough. Research it.

this is really lame. shows the desperation of the mccain backers.

Gang of 14 ended up getting Alito and Thomas appointed. How bad is it again?

and many judges not appointed.
right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:23 AM

These two answers are reason to ban you from the adult table.
It would be nice, but impossible considering the lack of intellect, to say “good points, but they don’t out weigh the bad”…and then list the bad.
But you attacking these points is like a dog chasing his tail. You want conservative judges, you want even less taxes, yet you argue against a man who did what you want…or do you want greter taxes or more liberals on the Supreme court?
Curious debate…debating yourself and losing…

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM

sabbott on July 24, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Thank God Juan is here to work with democRATS, he’s the only adult among the republicans!!

and he’s very flexible for his age, from all those years of grabbing the ankles excercises he’s done!!

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 10:57 AM

LOL! He’s also got the “Monica” perfected as well I suspect…

sabbott on July 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM

you’ve banned yourself from the logic and common sense table long ago.

You want conservative judges, you want even less taxes, yet you argue against a man who did what you want

mccain VOTED AGAINST TAX CUTS how is that ‘doing what I want’?????

amazing.

and the gang of 14 kept conservative judges off the courts it was a sellout to the dems…as usual.

get a clue.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:34 AM

…they will agree that we should drill, and then use their enviro-nutball base to try and make it impossible.

Jaibones on July 24, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Exactly right Prophet Jaibones.

Another tactic will be to load any drilling rights legislation up with neo-Marxist pork, probably something to do with free heating oil for all. They will take the issue of the scary price of heating oil this winter (something which is very much the fault of the Dem Congress and envirowackos), and turn the issue around and blame it on heartless Republicans. Look out for Joe Kennedy, Jr. to be their go to guy on this.

Buy Danish on July 24, 2008 at 11:34 AM

sabbott on July 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM

and I shudder to think who the receipient is…I think we all can guess….

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:35 AM

anyone who think mccain will appoint judges who would disagree with mccain feingold is dreaming.

and anyone who thinks the judges should be our rulers is not conservative.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM

First, you think that Alito and Thomas were bad choices?
I don’t remember McCain applying the “McCain/Feingold” litmus test…
The second paragraph is a foolish statement from a fool. A typical red herring, who on the post, ever hinted at such a thing?
Perhaps you did not know that the Supreme Court Justices are appointed for life.
Here is a little fact for you, political 101:
We have three branches of Government:
Legislative…we vote for them, as a term
Executive…we vote for them, as a term
Judicial…they are appointed (not by us) for life
That may help you. Now learn a little history before shooting off our mouth.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:40 AM

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:40 AM

again you display utter stupidity. we’ve talked before, and talking to you is like talking to a wall. ”

mccain voted for souter and Ginzberg, and Breyer.

who cares if they are appointed for life? the whole point is that the supreme court should not be deciding what is and is not constitutional, and as long as they do, we do not live in a democracy or republic, rather a judicial oligarchy.

but trying to explain anything to a moron like you is like casting pearls before swine.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:43 AM

absolutely….and they want us to keep quiet and vote for them because they’re republicans…keep dreaming.

no more RINOS.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Yada, yada, yada. None of this will mean crap in November when you’ll have to decide to vote for either a patriotic candidate or a socialist empty suit.

docdave on July 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM

I take it by your moniker that you are pro-life? For someone to use that as a name here, abortion must be a very important issue for you?

I don’t trust mccain on the issue of abortion. mccain voted to fund human embryo destruction for research. doesn’t he also support planned parenthood funding?

So you will take the side of Obama who makes it no secret that he loves abortion (i.e. “Don’t wanna punish them with a baby.”) and eschew M’Cain, who you know in your heart will be a better president on pro-life issues? What is the deal about embryo destruction? These are frozen in a lab somewhere. Would you rather they just let them stay there for all eternity? I agree with you though, I do not want government funding this kind of crap or anything similar.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:46 AM

socialist empty suit.

docdave on July 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM

and which candidate is that??

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Finally and HALLELUJAH !

stenwin77 on July 24, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Closing gitmo affects your day to day life in what way? With all the bad PR there it would probably not be a bad idea.

yeah just treat them like common criminals…hopefully they’ll let them go in your neighborhood.

Who said anything about treating them as common criminals? You brought up ‘closing gitmo’ and I responded accordingly. Close gitmo and send them somewhere else, hopefully no in any American’s neighborhood. Not even yours. See how civility toward one another can be so refreshing?

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:49 AM

So you will take the side of Obama who makes it no secret that he loves abortion (i.e. “Don’t wanna punish them with a baby.”)

no, won’t vote for obama, or mccain.

What is the deal about embryo destruction? These are frozen in a lab somewhere. Would you rather they just let them stay there for all eternity? I

anyone who is really pro-life would not say anything like this….

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:49 AM

HAH

Harry Reid and Nancy got punked.

This is a loosing issue both ways for the dems.

Topsecretk9 on July 24, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Close gitmo and send them somewhere else, hopefully no in any American’s neighborhood. Not even yours. See how civility toward one another can be so refreshing?

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:49 AM

where??? given that many countries don’t want them…where????

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:50 AM

He voted against the Bush tax cuts because they did not go far enough. Research it.

this is really lame. shows the desperation of the mccain backers.

Thanks for conceding that one to me.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:50 AM

“right” is trying to muck up hotair- best to put on the ignore hat.

Topsecretk9 on July 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM

where??? given that many countries don’t want them…where????

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Many countries don’t, some will. Incentives, such as aid, etc., can do much to persuade. We support and help so many countries out, this is a way to repay us.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM

mccain VOTED AGAINST TAX CUTS how is that ‘doing what I want’?????

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Well I am assuming that you also don’t like the Alito or Thomas selection.
I don’t know about you (well I do, but I am being nice), but I would rather have a Senator vote against a weak bill, then just to pass a bill to make him look good.
You would have wanted any bill, any at all, some Senators are more discriminating then that. McCain is a ruthless defender of our dollar.
However, if you continue to read MediaMatters or Huffpo, I can see where you would think you are correct.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM

He voted against the Bush tax cuts because they did not go far enough. Research it.

why don’t you post the research?

here’s mine:

1. “I don’t think the governor’s tax cut is too big—it’s just misplaced. Sixty percent of the benefits from his tax cuts go to the wealthiest 10% of Americans—and that’s not the kind of tax relief that Americans need. … Gov. Bush wants to spend the entire surplus on tax cuts. I don’t believe the wealthiest 10% of Americans should get 60% of the tax breaks. I think the lowest 10% should get the breaks. …

“I’m not giving tax cuts for the rich.”

—Discussion with media, reported in “Bush, McCain Snip Over
Tax Cut Plans,” Los Angeles Times, and “GOP Rivals Bicker on Taxes,”
Washington Post, Jan. 5, 2000.

typical democratic class warfare BS

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Cap and trade would hold violators of pollution accountable. Do you hate the environment?

Right, if you oppose doubling the size of the U.S. Government, increase the cost of industries in the U.S. by trillions of dollars, and oppose forcibly outsourcing all U.S. industry to India and China you must “hate the environment”.

I guess this is like opposing amnesty means you must be a bigot who doesn’t want what is best for America.

In other words, an over exaggeration while ignoring the obvious results of the proposed policies.

Amazing that a majority of the U.S. and Congress hate the environment (by not passing cap and trade). I guess hating the environment is a popular position.

That or you’re being dishonest again. I wonder which it is?

If you don’t support bigger, more intrusive government, and damage to all US Industry, you must hate the environment?

BWAHAHAHAHA

Ok, keep up that line of argument. I’m sure everyone will come around really soon. Especially with the *snicker* marvelous way cap and trade is working in Europe.

And the *chortle* impressive reductions that Kyoto signatories have “reduced” their CO2…

You’ve got a winning argument there for sure, please keep that one.

gekkobear on July 24, 2008 at 11:53 AM

He opposes torture, yes. Had you been stuck in a cage in Vietnam for 5 1/2 years having your arms broken and being bayoneted in the groin and beaten, perhaps you would be a tad sensitive on this issue, yes?

what we are doing is NOT TORTURE..he agrees with the LEFT and SMEARS our country. pathetic.

and his rational is that if we don’t do it, neither will they…what BS.

Who said what we were doing is torture? You were the one that said he was against torture. I simply stated that he is a bit sensitive to it since he has lived it. You should really try to stop judging others when you have no idea what it was like for them during a traumatic period of their lives. He could have been released for political reasons but would not leave the other men behind. Man, what a horrible character flaw for a man to have huh??

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Well I am assuming that you also don’t like the Alito or Thomas selection.

he didn’t select alito or thomas!!

I don’t know about you (well I do, but I am being nice), but I would rather have a Senator vote against a weak bill, then just to pass a bill to make him look good.
You would have wanted any bill, any at all, some Senators are more discriminating then that. McCain is a ruthless defender of our dollar.

meaningless blather.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Buy Danish on July 24, 2008 at 11:34 AM

I think I just stole that idea from you, so Cheers. And cheers again for the great call on porking the bill to death.

Jaibones on July 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM

How did we go from drilling to abortion? I’ll admit that one follows the other, but there’s no oil in it. :)

OldEnglish on July 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Who said what we were doing is torture?

mccain does

Rudolph W. Giuliani’s statement on Wednesday that he was uncertain whether waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique, was torture drew a sharp rebuke yesterday from Senator John McCain, who said that his failure to call it torture reflected his inexperience.

“All I can say is that it was used in the Spanish Inquisition, it was used in Pol Pot’s genocide in Cambodia, and there are reports that it is being used against Buddhist monks today,” Mr. McCain, who spent more than five years in a North Vietnamese prison camp, said in a telephone interview.

Of presidential candidates like Mr. Giuliani, who say that they are unsure whether waterboarding is torture, Mr. McCain said: “They should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.”

link

there is your boy accusing our country of torture. impugning our agents and soldiers who used waterboarding to get information vital to our defense.

he sounds like a moveon.org wacko.

and you support this man??

do you really know what you support??

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM

The gun show law really stands up as the most important issue of the election season! Forgot about taxes going through the roof or Obama’s SCOTUS appointees.

yeah the gun show law is important to those who care about freedom. mccain will appoint people like souter.

Freedom does not equal a gun show law. I’m sorry, I’m pro 2nd Amendment but this is not a reason to choose Obama over M’Cain. You know Obama is a gun-grabber don’t you? No, M’Cain said he will appoint people like Alito and Thomas. It is a fact. Not conjecture, which is what you are doing so much.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Not conjecture, which is what you are doing so much.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM

I’ve backed up everything I’ve said, you on the other hand have not. and yes freedom does equal a gun show law.

and yes it is one more of many not to support mccain.

I never said I was supporting obama…stop lying about me.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Gang of 14 ended up getting Alito and Thomas appointed. How bad is it again?

and many judges not appointed.

How many? Seriously, this is your argument? TWO justices WERE appointed because of the Gang of 14. You concede this one too, I see.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM

You’ve got a winning argument there for sure, please keep that one.

gekkobear on July 24, 2008 at 11:53 AM

these arguments for mcobama are really lame and laughable.

they can’t argue the issues, they have to impugn those they disagree with.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM

“right” is trying to muck up hotair- best to put on the ignore hat.

Topsecretk9 on July 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Good advice (assuming it is the other right).
*
The Republicans finally have the Dems in a corner. They better get together and make sure they keep them trapped. I don’t want some Keystone Cops episode or have it come to this.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM

TWO justices WERE appointed because of the Gang of 14. You concede this one too, I see.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM

those 2 had NOTHING to do with the gang of 14…that was about appealate level and below judges.

get a clue.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Cap and trade would hold violators of pollution accountable. Do you hate the environment?

anybody who supports this scheme is an out and out socialist. and you use the typical BS tactics of the left…’do you hate the environment’ you’re not conservative.

No, you really love to make bromides and move away from the debate don’t you? That, I might add, is also a ‘typical BS tactic of the left’.
Loving the ENVIRONMENT is a CONSERVATIVE principle. You are just buying into the hype that Conservatives don’t care about the environment.
I am done wasting my time with you. You are a pretender and you do not think for yourself. You follow whatever your favorite talk show host tells you to follow. Good luck.
I thought you were really wanting to debate.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM

oh yeah here’s what your wonderful gang of 14 did…

Ramesh and Matthew are correct: the McCain Gang of 14 was a disaster that snatched defeat from the jaws of victory on judicial nominations.

In May 2005, Senate Republican leadership had worked for months to make sure they had the votes for the constitutional option. We were ready to put an end to judicial filibusters that liberals had used to kill great nominations.

And then Senator McCain and his Gang of 14 arrogated the power to their little clique to determine what nominees would make it and what nominees would not, based on a subjective and undefined standard.

I double checked with someone who was very close to the process inside the Senate at the time, and that source confirmed: “Senator Frist was ready to execute the constitional option and McCain stopped it. Period.”

link

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM

you’re an idiot.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:09 PM

get a clue.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM

You are wrong. I know, I said I wasn’t going to waste any more time with you. But this time I mean it. You are an intellectual and logical lightweight and I am NOT proud to call you a fellow conservative-if that is what you are.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM

I’ve proven you wrong. and you have to lie about things to try to make a point. you’re a typical wacko lib.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM

you’re an idiot.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Since I am not wasting my time on this person any longer. Someone please relate to her that her latest response leaves me beat and thoroughly humiliated. You win. Great intellectual response.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM

wacko lib.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM

LOL
Not a lib. You just got your ass whooped for everyone to see.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM

The Dems will try to pass some drill bill with a hundred caveats in it (no drilling without lengthy studies, tests, EPA, etc.), and point to the Republicans when they refuse to back it.
The Republicans need to grow some Malkins and make sure they present the bills first, or show that their bills were buried.
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In other words the bills should be basically, “We start drilling tomorrow”.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM

We have got to keep it simple…drill now, keep it environmentally sound, and do it quick.
If we use our existing infrastructure, we can have oil pumping within a couple of years, in some cases months (not 10 years).
But the effect will be immediate, as soon as some bills are passed, oil prices will drop like a rock.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM

delusional as well. and your links for anything you posted are where???

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Oh sorry right4life. Didn’t see all your links because I was too busy refuting your stupid points. Oh well, very impressive that you have the time to link up to things. Perhaps you should start your own blog since you have so much information and time. M’Cain is not my boy; he is, though, my candidate of choice in THIS election. Don’t vote for him. But start your own blog, you can call it “Masturbating while Hating” whatever.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:16 PM

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM

delusional as well. and your links for anything you posted are where???

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Sorry, I am WORKING now and must get back to WORKING. Enjoy your handouts you “ward of the state”.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM

they can’t argue the issues, they have to impugn those they disagree with.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM

you’re a typical wacko lib.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM

he sounds like a moveon.org wacko.
right4life on July 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM

get a clue.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Once again, debating with himself…curious man this right4life is…

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Inb4 working at Halliburton. Another BS tactic of the left.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Once again, debating with himself…curious man this right4life is…

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Oh, is that a man?
Sorry right4life. lol

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Have to admit though, she has those links ready to go. Impressive and will get her nowhere. Just bang your head against the wall Sweetie. You are in for a long, long period of dissatisfaction since you hate M’Cain so much.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM

its amusing to see you wackos so obsessed with me!!

sorry I made you look so stupid…not that it was very hard!!!

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM

thought you were working? get back to scrubbing those toilets!!

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Good! Time to play some PowerBall with Harry’s pointy little mind.

normsrevenge on July 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Where did she go? I don’t blame her, I wouldn’t come back either knowing that she got her ass kicked-even with her links! Some people suck at debate. You can have all the links in the world but when you debase yourself by calling names and getting angry, you get nowhere. Oh well. Good times right4like.

carbon_footprint on July 24, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Its too bad stuff like this gets little to no airplay.

How would the public feel if they heard the Dems are Hijacking the Senate and refusing to vote on any bill they don’t agree 100% with?

Rbastid on July 24, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Jaibones on July 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Past is prologue, and the Dems are nothing if not predictable.

Indeed, I just checked and here’s Citizen Joe Kennedy’s website where he has gloomy stories listed in a category callously called “What’s Hot In Energy” along with a letter writing campaign which pleads:

Please hand-write your Member of Congress today asking them to provide the full funding of $5.1 billion for LIHEAP and encourage your state leaders to provide supplemental energy assistance funding.

Scroll down to see Joe’s letter…

Buy Danish on July 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM

they can’t argue the issues, they have to impugn those they disagree with.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM

get back to scrubbing those toilets!!

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM

its amusing to see you wackos so obsessed with me!!

sorry I made you look so stupid…not that it was very hard!!!

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Curious little person this right4life is…

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM

McCain is a douchebag that didn’t get thrown away.

cjs1943 on July 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Ronaldus Magnus: “Trust but Verify.”

I will believe the Senate GOP has a backbone when i see it. Not before.

Mike D. on July 24, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Reid’s “coal and oil make us sick” nonsense has backfired.

Harry, how are you feeling now?

Maxx on July 24, 2008 at 1:08 PM

It is time to beat Democrats like the (bribe) rented mules they are:
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Democrats care nothing for ordinary people suffering at the gas pumps, deciding between gas to get to work and food for their children.
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Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.
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Am I off topic? Should I whine about McCain here…?

Right_of_Attila on July 24, 2008 at 1:08 PM

The only defense the Dems have is to cloud the issue with environmental fodder.
However, this time it won’t work. Peoples lives are at stake, their livelihood is threatened, and they feel it.
The economic doom and gloom news of the left have helped set up this showdown, that’s the irony. There bashing of the economy is coming back to haunt them with the oil being the number one reason people are blaming for the “downturn”.
This time, the voters will have a choice (if the Republicans play it right), do I save my job, family, home, or do I save a monarch butterfly…
Played right, and we win. Just ignore their foolish extreme environmental pandering, and state that for this next 5 year period, we are going to “stop the bleeding”, and then we will re-evaluate our position.
Anything we “disrupt” in five years will come back…but we can’t recover the millions of lives affected by not having a sound aggressive energy program.
A true environmentalist would understand that the environment is around for billions of years our energy program will be for decades.
The environment can recover over hundreds or thousands (an insignificant eco time period) of years, but a family only has years to recover, and takes just months to be destroyed.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM

I will believe the Senate GOP has a backbone when i see it. Not before.

Mike D. on July 24, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Ahhhhh, the ultimate question to be answered…the only thing stopping the Republicans from winning this debate, is themselves. I can see them falling over each other to get their own take, their own bill, Keystone cops…

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM

tell me do you ever have a coherent thought?

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Am I off topic? Should I whine about McCain here…?
Right_of_Attila on July 24, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Did you see the movie “Brewster’s Millions?” I think that for a week, everyone here on hotair should just act just like these morons here who are trashing the republican nominee on this conservative website and parrot the same democrat talking points as they seem to be, so we can all get this out of our system. No matter the topic of each end every page – only McCain bashing lies and half-truths should be made. Of course they would love it, because this is what they are trying to accomplish here anyway. But it might just help to make others realize how disgusting this whole anti-McCain/pro-Obama trolling is when we are trying to discuss the issues such as this one.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Let’s drill the OCS, Green River and ANWAR, that’s 200 years worth of oil right there. Listen Congress, clear the way to build nuclear power plants and refineries, do it NOW.

I want to see an oil derrick on the White House front lawn. I want to see a Texas sized drillin’ rig in the rotunda. Quit sitting on your hands, America needs energy NOW!! Enough of this environmental nonsense that’s brought our nation so low.

Maxx on July 24, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Late to this thread, but

ABOUT TIME.

Sir Napsalot on July 24, 2008 at 1:25 PM

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

hey wisey, didn’t see your response to Michelle’s post about mcshamnesty…

here…

The other half of the La Raza twins is set to speak today at 12:45 Pacific time. While John McCain’s lips move this afternoon during his speech to the Race’s open-borders lovefest, let me serve as your interpreter:

MCCAIN: My friends, you are right. Those people who killed my shamnesty bill have ill intentions. They are bigots, just like my friend Lindsay Graham told you they were when he spoke before you two years ago.

My friends, I don’t want to talk about securing the border any more than you do. But trust me, when the “border” is “secure” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), then we’ll do what we all want to do: Formalize our Sanctuary Nation. Rejoice that illegal aliens are serving in the military. And sanctimoniously demonize and marginalize all those pesky bigots who keep obsessing about immigration enforcement and national security. I’m as committed to peddling sob-story platitudes and whitewashing your ethnic nationalism as you are! (What was that about the 15 things about The Race you should know? Shhhhhhhhhhh!)

tell me where she is wrong.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:25 PM

But it might just help to make others realize how disgusting this whole anti-McCain/pro-Obama trolling is when we are trying to discuss the issues such as this one.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

yeah lets talk about the issues…how mccain does NOT want to drill in ANWR, and only recently flipped on drilling on the coasts.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM

These are excellent points to bring up during the republican primaries when deciding which candidate to support, or in this case, or in this example with McCain, which candidate not to support.

However, the republican primaries have concluded.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:44 PM

“whip his caucus hard ”

Can you say that?

exhelodrvr on July 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

However, the republican primaries have concluded.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:44 PM

yeah and as long as the republicans nominate rinos, then they dont’ have my vote.

I’m sick of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

these republicans think people like me have no where else to go…think again.

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

these republicans think people like me have no where else to go…think again.
right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Oh noes! You might vote for a third party! What a horrible blow to the GOP! Please don’t do this! This will surely bring them to their knees! They will not have any other choice but to then listen to you and see to your demands, right4life! Don’t do it! Have you no pity to these GOP big wigs who decided to appoint McCain over the objections of the republican voters?

Have pity on us, right4life! Don’t vote for a third party, this is a threat that we all can not possibly survive! For pity-sake! Please reconsider!! You and your 8 friends who vote for a third candidate will lay waste to the entire republican party!

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM

since its no big deal how I vote, why do you spend your entire time attacking everyone who dares speak a word against your boy Juan McObama?

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Why do you spend all your time on a conservative website mocking and slandering the winner of the republican primary in the same manner that the democrats also attack McCain?

I think I know the answer to that question, But what I am expecting you to reply with is another one of your lies, so please forgive me if I don’t bother to look back here and see what you wrote, since it doesn’t make a difference anyway. I mean, you’re going to continue trolling here. You’re still here after weeks of this. Obviously this isn’t a problem what you’re doing. And the voice of real republicans here who are annoyed at you means nothing, so you’ll continue here up until election day, as you attempt to piss off enough people to not vote for McCain in the hopes that Obama win, and then you and all the rest of the democrats will cheer at their victory. Will you be here after election day? I wonder. I plan to be here, and for the years to follow.

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Why do you spend all your time on a conservative website mocking and slandering the winner of the republican primary in the same manner that the democrats also attack McCain?

thats a lie. I don’t lie about McObama like the libs do. why would a good ‘conservative’ have to lie about what I say?

so please forgive me if I don’t bother to look back here and see what you wrote, since it doesn’t make a difference anyway. I

yeah thats why you would write this entire diatribe.

how much do you get per word of your post from Juan McObama’s campaign?

do you report to Juan Hernandez?

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM

wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Don’t feed the little person.
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We can’t let the democrats take control of the energy debate…this is one of the issues they are absolutely on the wrong side of the voters.
McCain has changed his position, understands the need for an energy policy. This is our time to force the Dems to their knees (not hard to do in San Fran).
We have to make sure McCain knows we are supporting him and the rest of the party.

right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

McCain has changed his position, understands the need for an energy policy. This is our time to force the Dems to their knees (not hard to do in San Fran).

why hasn’t he changed his position on ANWR?? hmmmm?? since drilling is SO important to him now…

right4life on July 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM

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