Fox News poll: No bounce for Obama from trip, Maliki comments
posted at 3:53 pm on July 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Conducted Tuesday and Wednesday, three days after Maliki’s Spiegel interview dropped, with the same percentage of Democrats sampled as in their last poll (42%) and actually fewer Republicans this time than last (33% versus 35%). Head to head: Obama 41, McCain 40. On handling Iraq: McCain 47, Obama 39, a two-point gain since June. Maybe Obama’s position on the surge is starting to penetrate? There’s circumstantial evidence in the crosstabs. A quarter of independents and 15% of Democrats perceive “major improvements” in Iraq from the surge; many more see “minor improvements.” The fact that Obama’s popular with Europeans likewise is a wash. Democrats see it as positive, Republicans negative, and indies are split 26/25 — although people calling themselves “independents” these days are apt to include more disaffected Republicans so weigh that accordingly.
Here’s maybe my favorite question and answer in any poll thus far. He stands for Change, but what Change, exactly, Americans have no idea:
And here’s the requisite reminder that the nutroots, convinced as they are that the media is criminally soft on McCain, occupy their own little unreality-based sphere even within the Democratic Party:
It’s not all good news for McCain. His favorables are down since last time, doubtless due to Democrats reacting to his attacks on Obama and discovering that he’s not quite as maverick-y as they thought he was. But note this:
Most of that’s due, I’m sure, to Obama being an unknown quantity — but not all of it is. Embarrassing:
The GOP number’s the eye-popper but the seven percent of indies are more worrisome for him, I’m sure.
Three-point jump for drilling in ANWR since last month too, incidentally. Among independents: 59/36.
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A bigger worry is the 27% of all respondents who “don’t know.” That may mean that they can be convinced either way.
Big S on July 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM
I’m not sure who Obama was trying to impress with his Euro trip.
The people who feel Europeans are our betters, are in his camp already. They can’t vote twice (oh, wait, they’re Democrats) and even if they can, they’d be doing so already.
For those who really don’t care what Europeans think when it comes to choosing our political candidates, along with those who couldn’t find Europe on a map, it will make no difference.
NoDonkey on July 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Who is still saying McCain has no chance to win?
jgapinoy on July 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM
From Rasmussen, 63% say Obama’s trip doesn’t make him any more presidential.
amerpundit on July 24, 2008 at 4:00 PM
The Titanic was unsinkable also. And this is BHOs maiden voyage. Man the lifeboat stations, he’s going down.
roninacreage on July 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Just as the Christian Messiah was initially popular but eventually was rejected by the masses, so it will be with this secular messiah.
jgapinoy on July 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM
The best McCain could do was say that if he was going to give a speech in Germany, he wanted to do it as president.
And I just ssid it alot more articulately than he did.
BigD on July 24, 2008 at 4:03 PM
*Obama throws out a nice, shiny Euro-tour ball in front of the American people……..thud.*
ThePrez on July 24, 2008 at 4:03 PM
I think the Berlin speech will backfire’
Tony737 on July 24, 2008 at 4:04 PM
74.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Akzed on July 24, 2008 at 4:05 PM
“But they love me in Germany…”
Cicero43 on July 24, 2008 at 4:05 PM
It’s little early to see if Obama got any “bounce”, but he sure hasn’t gone down, other than with Fox.
There are 3 recent head-to-head polls as reported by RCP: NBC/WSJ, Rasmussen Tracking and Gallup tracking and they have Obama beating McCain by 6, 3 and 4 percent respectivly.
The NBC/WSJ poll also had a few of other very interesting questions, the kind that are often very telling, like -
How excited are you? (excited/satisfied/less of two evils)
Obama 44/33/22
McCain 14/42/43
Which candidate is more easy-going and likable?
Obama 59, McCain 15.
Which candidate is compassionate to understand average Americans?
Obama 46, McCain 22.
I guess there is a poll out there for just about everybody.
MB4 on July 24, 2008 at 4:08 PM
The media will make up for it, spending the following 3 weeks analyzing the benefits of every ‘Uhhh’ to the world community with countless interviews asking pressing questions like “Why do you think all of the world thinks you would be the bestest leader of the whole world?
He’ll get his bounce by the 2nd week of August.
cntrlfrk on July 24, 2008 at 4:09 PM
This is why it’s a good thing McCain didn’t waste a veep announcement this week.
TheNolan on July 24, 2008 at 4:10 PM
am I the only one who thinks that a big crowd of Germans cheering a guy on a podium does not sound right?
aso on July 24, 2008 at 4:12 PM
I think the bounce will happen tomorrow; after the network news tonight. It’s wishfull thinking that his speech won’t give him at least a temporary boost.
tgillian on July 24, 2008 at 4:12 PM
it’s so sad when you watch adolescents fall out of puppy love. america is starting to notice that Mr. Obama ain’t what he was cracked up to be. if its this close with Barack sticking to the cue cards and avoiding tough questions (good lord, katie couric stumped the poor bastard yesterday) imagine the rush to join Team Mac once the debates are over. mark my words. Mac with wipe the floor with Mr. Obama in the debates. obama will be resemble stockbridge, mumbling ‘lockbox…lockbox!” when it’s all said and done.
DrW on July 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Ah nuts, and I thought ALL those Middle Easterners, and Europeans could vote here in November! /Sarcasm
byteshredder on July 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I can hardly hold back the teardrops.
Travis1 on July 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Good Christians.
The Race Card on July 24, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Even the Democrats can see that the media is shilling for Obama. I wonder what long term effects this will have on the media. I do not recall who did the poll, maybe Pew, but it was a few months back and the approval rating for the media was about 14%. I bet it is lower now. It might even be worse than Congress’s and that is saying something.
Terrye on July 24, 2008 at 4:20 PM
No aso, you’re not the only one. I wrote a short while ago that all he needs is Albert Speer’s grandson running the light show…”Ich bin ein socialist”…..
adamsmith on July 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM
tgillian:
I doubt that many Americans care about this speech. Most of them are not going to watch it. They are not in Berlin, that is who it is for. Planet Earth, your new leader has arrived.
If he is going to get a real bounce, it will be a speech from Denver at the Democratic Convention that does it for him.
Terrye on July 24, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Only one-in-five Republicans think Obama’s a Muslim? I thought it would be higher.
Grow Fins on July 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Empty suit, empty rhetoric, no specifics on accomplishment of high minded notions, the usual from the Freshman Senator from Chicago, a dangerous city with a high crime rate. So much for his padded resume of community organizing!
It resembled a pep rally. I doubt if he found any facts.
Facts just might interfere with his agenda. I hope that his campaign reimburses the tax payers for this carnival. It was campaigning, not fact finding. Period.
old trooper on July 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM
My stool could have given a better speech……… What we didn’t see were the “Free Beer and Brats” sign that got all those people to show up in the first place……….
Seven Percent Solution on July 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM
This guy is more like the Anti-Christ than the Messiah. The Anti-Christ is supposed to be a smooth talker and people flock to him like fleas to a dog and brings death and destruction.
This guy scares the hell out of me.
cjs1943 on July 24, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Maybe he is just trying to find new people to give him more money , obamamessiah loves euros more then dollars
Mojack420 on July 24, 2008 at 4:45 PM
74.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Akzed on July 24, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Eh, 67.3% of those polled think you made that up on the spot.
Bishop on July 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM
The poll says that 27% “don’t know” whether Obama is a Muslim or a Christian. What does that mean? Maybe these people don’t think he’s a Muslim, but don’t think the Church of Jeremiah Wright is really Christian. I would put myself in that category!
Steve Z on July 24, 2008 at 4:49 PM
… What we didn’t see were the “Free Beer and Brats” sign that got all those people to show up … – 7%
That’s because it was written in German – ‘Frie beir und braten macht frie’
Tony737 on July 24, 2008 at 4:49 PM
As for Obama, I would say he just managed to accumulate as much foreign policy experience as any five other politicians you can name. A speech here, a snub to our troops there…the man is ready to be President.
Forget the damn convention and put the guy in office NOW! We have a world to heal!
Bishop on July 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM
McCain, dude.
Obama, dud.
maverick muse on July 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I saw this at Power Line :
The Washington Post reports that John McCain has made significant gains in several battleground states over the past month. He and Barack Obama are now in dead heats, according to recent Post/Quinnipiac/Wall Street Journal polling, in Colorado, Michigan and Minnesota, while Obama continues to enjoy a sizable lead in Wisconsin.
Terrye on July 24, 2008 at 4:51 PM
LOL.
Of the 41% who think Obama has new ideas, almost a third can’t name one. The only example that 14% of them have is “hope” or “change”, and 15% can’t come up with an example.
peski on July 24, 2008 at 4:52 PM
‘Frie beir und braten macht frie’
Is that what the Obama administration would put over the gates of their civilian service camps, or would they just stick “Arbeit macht frei”?
Bishop on July 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Amazing, isn’t it?
wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 4:54 PM
The DNC is cutting its own throat in its play for totalitarian power over all.
As gas prices have been rising since Jimmy Carter and never gone back to pre-Carter rates despite our ability to supply ourselves, because of the DNC imposed sacrifice of our population’s well being, no one likes this CHANGE. As per “we can believe in”, who needs faith to recognize that the price of gas, food and housing have quadrupled since Carter. Wages for highly skilled labor have not quadrupled since Carter. They’ve remained stagnant WHERE AVAILABLE! And the DNC is telling us that our hardships are NECESSARY and for our own good. THAT takes faith to believe in, because the facts prove all of their rhetoric to be false. Global warming takes faith to believe in because it is not an absolute truth; though it be fascistically enforced as imposed empiricism, global warming is without substantiating validity. The evidence and records prove the hoax. Just one example of everyone being sick and tired of Obama’s Change We don’t believe In.
maverick muse on July 24, 2008 at 5:01 PM
You can bet after this failed trip, the super delegates are more then a little worried.
This was a monumental flop, Obama had every news resource, every favorable advantage (I know redundant), and he gained nothing…and McCain lost nothing and gained a little. Without almost no coverage, McCain held strong…it shows how steady his support is, and how shaky Obama’s is.
Hillary is writing her speech…
of course as MB4 scours Huffpo, MediaMatter, and MoveOn.org he will find another opinion.
right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Just reinforces the fact that McCain is not the first choice, he is the ONLY choice. It is embarrassing that Obama can be so shallow and actually run for president. If the Daly machine pulls this off, we will get what we deserve.
volsense on July 24, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Obie just doesn’t seem to have any staying power. In the primary, he came out strong early, but got his butt kicked in the later primaries. The more people pay attention to him, the less they seem to like him. Except the Obamabots, of course. He seems to be a Rorschach test, only after staring for a while, the butterfly disappears and he just looks like an ink blob. I expect the remaining shine to continue to fade.
iurockhead on July 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM
R2B,
Heh.
Bishop on July 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM
The timing of Busch-Anheuser selling out to EU financial interests coincided with Obama’s Berlin speech. So whose beer was being brandied about by his promoters? So much for Germans sharing the international love festivities. It’s always been their way or the highway. Whatever tearing down of all the world’s walls happened at a great price that Obama certainly never paid.
Obama The Freeloader ‘08
maverick muse on July 24, 2008 at 5:11 PM
iurockhead on July 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM
heh, “Slip Sliding Away” simon&garfunkle.
maverick muse on July 24, 2008 at 5:13 PM
The question about OBH’s religion is crap, since the correct answer isn’t even an option — he’s a Marxist. That church he went to is as Christian as Stalin’s Kremlin.
TABoLK on July 24, 2008 at 5:13 PM
What are all of the cool kids calling this, “identity politics?”
Well Obama has a nice smile. And he speaks of “change.”
If our nation picks Obama, then be prepared more the most unqualified president in the entire history of the US. (after President Gerald R. Ford, I guess.)
wise_man on July 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Partial poll results as well.
easy on July 24, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Consider that, all told, 37% of respondents either think he’s definitely lied or think he may have lied about being a muslim.
Kralizec on July 24, 2008 at 5:23 PM
That comment is really accurate, I think most of us feel that way.
right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 5:24 PM
funny, the song’s a hell of a lot more appropriate than I remembered…
Slip Slidin’ Away, Simon & Garfunkel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6Zx_fzpq8
maverick muse on July 24, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Other interesting tidbits from this poll:
34% of Independents, who make up 19% of the sample, are still undecided. That’s 6.5% of the electorate, which could swing the election.
Made “serious changes” on issues: Obama 30%, McCain 18%. The “flip-flops” are starting to be known to the electorate. McCain has to hammer this, to prove Obama untrustworthy, by a bunch of Obama then vs Obama now ads.
Result of surge in Iraq: 61% said either major or minor improvements. Obama opposing it could hurt him.
On issues: Obama 50-32 on health care, 47-36 on economy; McCain 52-34 on war on terrorism, 47-39 on Iraq. But 75% want to drill for oil! What McCain needs to do here is link drilling for oil to the economy: more oil supply = lower fuel prices = lower heating bills = lower transportation costs to stores = cheaper everything.
Also American drilling = American blue-collar jobs.
Drilling “in a small area of ANWR” 56-38. The wording of the question is VERY important here! Other polls present ANWR as a huge pristine wilderness area full of caribou, and most people don’t want to drill there. But the reality is the drilling would be limited to less than 4 square miles, which is a relatively “small area”. Kudos to Fox News for this wording! McCain and the GOP need to use this wording as well.
Increasing Federal taxes on gas and oil: 82-14 against. Note to McCain: Tax holiday on gasoline is popular, dump cap&trade like a hot potato.
Steve Z on July 24, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I think your post is really important. It shows that McCain is targeting certain areas. Probing for a weakness, then attacking. Obama needs the whole country, McCain needs a several pivotal states.
For instance, McCain can’t win California, but Obama can lose it. That is why some of the polls are so skewered right now. They haven’t settled, and McCain is laying the groundwork for the swing states.
Who would have thought the liberal Colorado would begin to change, and when energy (vital to Colorado, because most everything is trucked or flown in or out) it will really bode well for McCain.
This Obama trip will be a great asset to McCain.
right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 5:32 PM
One more of several good posts, this is a great day for some great posts.
Thanks,
right2bright on July 24, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Christian or Muslim? The pollsters need to add Black Liberation Theology Marxist. That would help clear up that question a little better. I will go with a BLT Marxist.
chief on July 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM
S*&% doesn’t bounce, that’s why.
Wethal on July 24, 2008 at 5:59 PM
I don’t think Obama is a Muslim, but I don’t think he is a Christian either. I certainly don’t see Jesus in the racist “God damn America” church that he went to for 20 years.
katieanne on July 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
The reason Obie doesn’t have any staying power is because as you get to know him, you realize he has no core and the ultra-liberal views he espouses are not based his values. Keeping Michelle under wraps has helped some, but even the total makeover she is going through right now will only be superficial to all but the totally brainwashed.
volsense on July 24, 2008 at 6:38 PM
You have to look at Obama’s demographics, the only way he would have gotten a bounce from this is if he took a pee on a wounded soldier during a filed press conference. Supporting the troops but not the war has always been a huge and thinly concealed myth.j Obama followers hate the troops, hate the war, hate America and love everybody who thinks just like they do… Hamas, al Qaeda etc.
Sad thing is that McCain could have actually won if he hadn’t pissed off so many conservatives with his ShAmnesty, too late now and he didn’t even get the latino vote. Shame, doubt we’ll see a Republican Congress or White House for decades if ever. Pushed too many powerful groups out of the big tent folks. Way too few big government, big spending, drive the economy into the ground voters to pull this off.
Buzzy on July 24, 2008 at 7:37 PM
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