Wes Clark on the surge: It was a Saudi payoff that worked

posted at 6:50 pm on July 23, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

John McCormack catches Wes Clark in a couple of egregious errors on the surge today on Morning Joe.  The lesser mistake is Clark’s insistence that the surge didn’t involve Anbar at all, when as McCormack notes the Marines sent two extra battalions to the hotbed of terrorist activity as part of the increased deployment.  Worse, though, Clark tries to tell Scarborough that the surge had nothing to do with the Marines, and everything to do with the Saudis paying off the Sunni tribes:

This isn’t exactly a lost history. Actually, 4,000 extra Marines went to Anbar. The extra Marine battalions got a lot of attention in the beginning of the surge, especially since they had the toughest job in clearing Anbar, while the Army focused more on Baghdad. In fact, some debated whether the two extra Marine battalions would be enough for the mission — which the Corps answered almost immediately by beginning their string of successes in the region.

Certainly one would expect a military “analyst” for a major media outlet to know at least that much about the surge that he’s dismissing. However, it’s clear that Clark isn’t providing analysis but political cover for Barack Obama by trying to argue that the surge didn’t have any effect on Iraqi security. With the media pressing Obama to explain why he still opposes a strategy that worked, Clark wants to give him an out by claiming that the Iraqis beat al-Qaeda all by themselves after the Saudis bribed them to do so.

That allegation disrespects both the Iraqis in Anbar who risked and gave their lives to beat al-Qaeda as well as the Marines who gave them the opening to do so. It’s shameful for anyone to dismiss that heroic effort by the Corps in Anbar and the Army in Baghdad, but especially so for a former military commander.


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Semper fi. Marines kick ass. Now “Chesty” Puller was a real general.

Johan Klaus on July 24, 2008 at 1:35 AM

JonRoss on July 23, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Again, Semper Fi.

Johan Klaus on July 24, 2008 at 1:41 AM

I can’t imagine what it would have been like to serve under this self-serving creep.

Mojave Mark on July 24, 2008 at 1:48 AM

From now on, NATO Chief to National Embarassment…keep talking Weasely, someday, the Moonbat Brigade will need a CO and when that day comes, we know you’ll proudly don the tinfoil lined helmet and lead them right over the side of a cliff.

Exit question: Can this dolt be considered a genuine National Embarassment yet?

SuperCool on July 24, 2008 at 4:15 AM

And exactly which groups were the Saudis funding before the surge?

Annar on July 24, 2008 at 7:17 AM

Can you imagine what the world would be like if the all the officers in the US armed forces were like Wes Clark?

I can’t quite figure him out. Is he a bitchass punk or a punkass bitch?

TheSitRep on July 24, 2008 at 8:06 AM

There was a reason he left command early out of EURCOM…

What happened to that MacArthur dictum “…old soldiers…fade way…”

Time for you to go GEN Clark

lpierson on July 24, 2008 at 8:34 AM

lpierson

¨GEN Clark?¨

I think ¨JEN¨ Clark works better.

james hooker on July 24, 2008 at 8:39 AM

I dunno what it is about the Army guys, inferiority complex or something, but they always have to find some excuse to dis the Corps. In Clark’s case the sense of inferiority is compounded by rank stupidity.

srhoades on July 24, 2008 at 8:42 AM

This clown stepped on subordinates, stabbed peers in the back and disrespected his superiors on his way up the ladder.

Why wouldn’t a guy like this align himself with Obama?

And why wouldn’t he refuse to give the troops any credit?

Guys like Clark and Obama didn’t get where they are by giving other people credit for anything.

They got where they are by taking credit for the work of other people.

NoDonkey on July 24, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Ed, I wish you’d refer to Clark in your headlines as Secretary of State Clark, or Secretary of Defense Clark. That should get a few more votes for McCain.

JiangxiDad on July 24, 2008 at 8:46 AM

This man is an empty suit with no character. Why do the Dems allow such an airhead to represent them?
d1carter on July 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM

That’s known as a self-answering question.

Akzed on July 24, 2008 at 8:50 AM

That’s it Wesley, keep painting you and your buddy Obama into that Surge-Didn’t-Work!!! corner.

Just like we want you to…

Et tu Brute on July 24, 2008 at 8:52 AM

I can’t imagine what it would have been like to serve under this self-serving creep.

Mojave Mark on July 24, 2008 at 1:48 AM

A freaking nightmare is what it must have been like.
One of the most vainglorious, self important generals since Benjamin Butler in the Civil War – and just as incompetent.

Hilts on July 24, 2008 at 8:53 AM

Count that as Wes Clark’s mirrored confession. It was a Saudi payoff that worked on Clark.

maverick muse on July 24, 2008 at 9:01 AM

In fact, some debated whether the two extra Marine battalions would be enough for the mission — which the Corps answered almost immediately by beginning their string of successes in the region.

My Father in Law was/is a Marine.. the toughest man I know.

yeah.. it was all a payoff.. not extra boots on the ground and the change in strategy of take and hold, then slowly give back to the Iraqis when they can prove they can hold the region..

DaveC on July 24, 2008 at 9:09 AM

he needs to crawl back into his hole and stay there. moron!

becki51758 on July 24, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Why don’t we ever see these liars like the Gay-General Clark on FOX with their bareassed lying…at least mild mannered Joe attempted to refute this fool Clark.

el Vaquero on July 24, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Commie bas***d…..

adamsmith on July 24, 2008 at 10:05 AM

el Vaquero on July 24, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Clark was a FOX news contributor for awhile. He made me gag everytime he was on.

Connie on July 24, 2008 at 10:10 AM

It would appear that Clark has “lost” it. Or..he has been hanging out with the Clintons for too long?

jeanie on July 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM

{MUTE}

kirkill on July 24, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Looks like Gen Clark desperately want the deskjob Dan Rather vacated.

Sir Napsalot on July 24, 2008 at 10:43 AM

You know that things have gone south when I am forced to take on the role of the adult.

MB4 on July 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM

MB4, is there anything noteworthy if it is not about you?
You earned the poster child as the ME, ME, ME generation.

Sir Napsalot on July 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM

I wish that just once, one of these host would look at one of these idiots and say ” you know what, you are so full of s**t”…

twiggman on July 24, 2008 at 11:35 AM

CLARK should heed the words of MARK TWAIN… “it is better to remain quiet, and be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt”.

pueblo1032 on July 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM

This came as a shock to me just now. (I’ve been going through a viscous child custody battle with my X for my 2 small sons since 2004 and many things in the news have dropped though the cracks for me in the last few years during this fight).

1GooDDaDDy on July 23, 2008 at 7:40 PM

As someone that has gone through the same, with my three kids, you have my sympathy. Keep your chin up.

coyoterex on July 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Ed, I wish you’d refer to Clark in your headlines as Secretary of State Clark, or Secretary of Defense Clark. That should get a few more votes for McCain.

JiangxiDad on July 24, 2008 at 8:46 AM

Isn’t it a bit early for the Halloween Horror Movie season?

coyoterex on July 24, 2008 at 5:42 PM

I really do believe that Wesley Clark has a mental issue. On one of the news cable shows he described the world going to a new world order. He said that China would be the world;s capital. The USA and other countries would be satellite countries of China. Very strange.

tanmany2k on July 25, 2008 at 12:08 AM

The Anbar Awakening had a number of fathers but probably the biggest contributor was AQ and associated thugs. Their incredible brutality and purposeful killing of Iraqi civilians won them few friends. Then, they began to try to consolidate all power in their own hands infringing on the tradional authority of the sheiks. When the sheiks resisted AQ started trying to take them out. AQ made themselves the enemy of not only us, but a large part of the Iraqi population and their local leaders. The benefit to us started with a lot of increased intelligence flow from Iraqi’s to our forces. That allowed us to go out and swack a lot of AQ cells that we had been unable to identify. From there the sheiks began putting local guards out in their areas to protect against AQ. At first we were a little concerned at these ununiformed armed people showing up on street corners etc. But, fortunately local commanders realized what was going on and began to engage with and coordinate with these guards. Once we realized they were on the up and up and giving us great intel and truly were fighting AQ and other assorted bums, we began equipping them. That led to the sheiks encouraging their people to join the police and join the local army units. Now they were able to began fighting AQ toe to toe on their own (after we made significant efforts to train them).

One of my good friends just returned about a month ago and his TF did not lose a single Marine in 7 mos. (And he was in charge of a 3,600 sq mile zone) Unfortunately, just before returning their worst incident happened when some AQ approached one of the local Iraqi guard positions and twilight and were dressed in faked American uniforms. They called out claiming to be Americans and the local put down their weapons and allowed them to advance. Result, 5 dead.

Bottom line is that Clark’s claims are BS.

SoonerMarine on July 25, 2008 at 12:30 PM

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Dale in Atlanta on July 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I used to believe that he was fired as the Supreme Commander for total incompetence and forced into retirement. However, now I believe he’s just gay and they found out about it.
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I pray for him to be chosen Obama’s running mate = guaranteed loss…

stacman on July 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM

My mom gave my one of Clark’s books. After his recent “whoppers,” I certainly don’t want to read it. What do you all think I should do with it?

Wildcatter1980 on July 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Wildcatter1980 on July 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Flush it.

Johan Klaus on July 26, 2008 at 12:12 AM

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