Video: T. Boone Pickens says “Drill it all”

posted at 3:00 pm on July 23, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

With the Senate debating energy policy this week, some have pointed to billionaire T. Boone Pickens’ efforts to build massive wind farms as the direction America should take in the long term.  Unfortunately, Pickens himself doesn’t agree.  Not only does he want to drill off-shore, he wants to sink a few wells in ANWR, too.  He tells CNN that foreign oil is “the enemy”:

Think Harry Reid might want to rethink Pickens yet again?


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“This is not the T. Boone Pickens I thought I knew.”

NoDonkey on July 23, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Not the T. Boone Pickens that Reid thought he knew.

ThePrez on July 23, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Good grief. Can’t this guy make up his mind?

Unless, of course, he plans to make a few dimes off of those fancy new windmill thingies…

Et tu Brute on July 23, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Damn, beat me to it! lol

ThePrez on July 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Change We Can Believe In, Good Pickens!

PUMP, PROSPERITY, PEACE

Proudly produced in the USA!

maverick muse on July 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Pickens snookered the liberals again…LOL

Wade on July 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM

I saw another video on the Washington Times website where he was discussing this.

Eh, one more voice of reason that Dems won’t hear.

MadisonConservative on July 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Without oil nothing else matters and won’t for the next century or longer.

We are still using coal and steam more than a century after discovering that oil and gas was better. We’ll still be using oil long after “fusion” or whatever is discovered to be better than oil and gas. And nothing proposed addresses flight. Do we just ground commercial aviation?

Time to buy Greyhound stock?

E9RET on July 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Figures Harry Reid would call a fellow American, a successful business man, a Patriot, his, “mortal enemy.”

TheBigOldDog on July 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Gotta get up early in the a.m. to beat NoDonkey.

NoDonkey on July 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Libs get ‘T-Booned’

Wade on July 23, 2008 at 3:06 PM

M’Cain/Pickens 2008!

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:06 PM

We already have a “wind farm” in place – it’s called Congress.

Contain all of that flatulence, and you have a renewable resource, with plenty to spare. It’s all about methane.

Boone Pickens wears orange ties.

:O)

OhEssYouCowboys on July 23, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Liberals be a Booner

Wade on July 23, 2008 at 3:07 PM

maverick muse on July 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM

I agree. Nice alliteration, too.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Forget Obama or McCain. We need T. Boone Pickens in the White House.

SoulGlo on July 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Let’s all assume that a guy who knew how to make money off of oil is the best qualified to solve the USA’s energy problems! It’s almost as logical as assuming that a venture capitalist is an expert on something like monetary policy.

Big S on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Good grief. Can’t this guy make up his mind?

Et tu Brute on July 23, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Actually, I don’t think he’s changed his mind. When he said “You can’t drill your way out of this”, many took it to mean we shouldn’t be increasing what we’re drilling. He was saying we need to do it all: Drill it all and implement wind power, etc.

amerpundit on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Hey Dingy Harry… You can Picken your friends, but you can not Picken your friends Booner.

Wade on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Good. I was afraid that Mr. Pickens would focus solely on wind and solar. I’m glad that his view is comprehensive.

Troy Rasmussen on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Its not foreign oil that’s the enemy. Its the foreigners with the oil that’s the enenmy.

Iblis on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Sound bite ads make their impression.
Pickens invites everyone to visit his website.
Haven’t yet, but seems reasonable to do so at my earliest convenience.

For anything to make sense re: energy “policy”, it will require a COOPERATIVE use of all sources, particularly producing machines that cross-over from one fuel to another, not just elect/gas, but intra-petro all types of gas and fuel, supplemented at night with stored electricity via wind, solar, water, collected during the day. I’m certainly not the only one who thinks this way.

maverick muse on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Drill the hell out of everything!

Put oil rigs on the Moon if we have to! >:D

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM

What if we take those big fans and direct them at the ground and drill with them?

benrand on July 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Pickens makes way too much sense for congress to listen to him.

MB4 on July 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Good. I was afraid that Mr. Pickens would focus solely on wind and solar. I’m glad that his view is comprehensive.

Troy Rasmussen on July 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Oh no, check out his website. The plan is all encompassing of many modes of energy. Very thought out and he spent his own millions on this ad campaign.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Harry Reid: “This energy war is lost!”

McCain doing some nice stuff on energy lately, btw: Very good at the town halls, plus the apparent campaign plans for the next couple of days – photo op at offshore drill rig and in towns called Berlin in NH, PA, and WI and vs. Ich-bin-ein-Beginner in Berlin, Germany – strike me as a very creative way to needle Obama for caring more about passing the “global test” than the issues that matter to the country he’s supposed to be interested in leading. Goes well with the surge-related attack (cares more about winning the election than winning the war) that made Joe Klein cry, too.

Considering how much grief the McCain campaign has been getting from critical conservatives, at HA elsewhere, I think it’s also fair to applaud some deft humor and creativity. The media-love web video seems to have gotten a better response than I expected, too.

CK MacLeod on July 23, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Enemy not enenmy

Iblis on July 23, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Harry Reid, thats not the T. Boone Pickens that i knew..

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:13 PM

We need EVERYTHING!

Wind, Solar, conservation, OIL, Coal, Nuclear.. ALL OF IT.

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:14 PM

more Oil refineries

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Typical greedy oilman.

Sorry. I was channeling any nondescript libtard there for a second.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:15 PM

now pickens is an agent of intolerance a racist, sexist, bigoted homophobe!!

and just a few minutes ago he was liberal, enlightened, and noble!

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 3:16 PM

I, too, want to build wind farms……..I here Nantucket is a great place!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Everybody has it wrong. His comments are inartful.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:16 PM

We need EVERYTHING!

Wind, Solar, smart bio-fuels, Conservation, OIL, More Oil Refineries, Coal, Natural Gas, Nuclear Power.. ALL OF IT.

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:16 PM

here = hear

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Drill the hell out of everything!
Put oil rigs on the Moon if we have to! >:D
Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Right on!

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM

T Boone has never changed his mind. From day one he supported doing it all, but his ads are a little misleasding, especially those that want to end oil. He was on Glenn Beck 6 weeks ago saying to do it all.

bopbottle on July 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Wyle E. Reid soooooooooper genius.

These are the idiots that run…ruining our country.

jukin on July 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

What happened? Did someone microwave Harry’s tin foil hat? Man doesn’t know whether he’s coming or going.

wildweasel on July 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Oil rigs and wind farms off of Martha’s Vineyard and Malibu – I would laugh my ass off.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

a “smart bio-fuel” would be something that has a higher energy index than Corn based ethanol.. and something that doesn’t take more to produce than what you get in return.

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Allah..please headline John Edwards being caught in the hotel with that bimbo. He is, after all, a VP in the running. Heres the first line from johnedwards.com-
John Edwards’ remarks in New Orleans, 1/30:

I began my presidential campaign here to remind the country that we, as citizens and as a government, have a moral responsibility to each other

malkinmania on July 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Everyone should be required to have an oil derrick in his or her back yard, and to keep on drilling until something turns up. The Great Leap Downward…

;)

CK MacLeod on July 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Sugarcane ethanol?

amerpundit on July 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM

“Boone Pickens is just plain mean.”

- Michelle Obama

OhEssYouCowboys on July 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM

T Boone has never changed his mind. From day one he supported doing it all, but his ads are a little misleasding, especially those that want to end oil. He was on Glenn Beck 6 weeks ago saying to do it all.

bopbottle on July 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

T Boone is walking the walk though and actually using his own money to buy wind farms.. its showing the libs something.. and IMHO, with all the space needed for that eye sore a Nuclear power plant would be better and probably produce more energy and not just more, but more consistent energy. wind is not a consistent form of energy, similar to solar.

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Seriously, this is an American problem and every American will have to deal with some things they do not like. Enough of Texas and Louisiana being the select places of drilling for oil and gas. Time for each state to pitch in. CA and MA; time for you to allow energy production. If you refuse, I say the rest of the country cuts your asses off of the energy teet.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Wind generators have one large drawback, they’re not reliable. The wind doesn’t always blow and we can’t control it. There’s no real method of storing electrical energy on this magnitude so wind generators need a larger backup supply than other sources. It’s not megawatt for megawatt but it’s higher than a hydro or fossil plant. That said the fuel cost is really low so I say build ‘em wherever the wind blows and around Teddy Kennedy it blows a lot!

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Ich-bin-ein-Beginner
CK MacLeod on July 23, 2008 at 3:13 PM

hilarious, dude!!

bernzright777 on July 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM

This will help Michelle’s children.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Gosh, now I’m sorry about all the hateful things I said about T. Boone on the other thread.

24K lady on July 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM

@ bopbottle on July 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

He has never said to end oil. He has said to reduce the dependence of oil and natural gas for electricity, replacing it with wind power. He then said that natural gas, which we have an abundance of, could be used for cars, which would be cheaper and cleaner. His plan seems fairly sound, as the US has some of the consistently windiest places on earth.

muyoso on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Unless, of course, he plans to make a few dimes off of those fancy new windmill thingies…

Et tu Brute on July 23, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Picken’s is a gambling business man. How do you think he is where he is today!

upinak on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Oh, you mean like coal.

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM

A solid point, however per T. Boone’s plan, the “wind corridor” which runs right straight down the middle of the country from Canada to Texas will provide the wind farms. Thus the distribution will be central to the other parts of the US.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Pickens makes way too much sense for congress to listen to him.

MB4 on July 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM

I agree. He sees the $700B we send out of the country every year to oil producers, most of them politically unstable, as the biggest problem. Drilling, nuclear, wind, solar all help reduce our funding of Iran, Saudi, Russia, Venezuela.

dedalus on July 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Forgot to add the the “wind corridor” has very potent, sustained winds.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM

I agree…do it all and do it NOW. Let’s lower our energy costs, enrich our own coffers, and bankrupt our enemies if we can.

Win-win.

Bob's Kid on July 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM

I see more Dhimmi spin coming here than one finds in quantum string theory.

Annar on July 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Sugarcane ethanol?

amerpundit on July 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM

i’m not an expert on ethanol but i have heard that sugar has a higher efficiency, also there are other plants and are not indigenous to the US that are just now starting to be introduced that i think have higher efficiencies also..

The plant(Jatropha plant) yields more than four times as much fuel per hectare as soybean, and more than ten times that of maize (corn). A hectare of jatropha produces 1,892 litres of fuel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatropha_biodiesel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatropha_In_India

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Good, I was wondering how I was to get a windmill on my car.

easy on July 23, 2008 at 3:34 PM

re: Reid.

Pickens, someone who helped provide this country with th energy it needed to become the economic powerhouse it is today, was/is your mortal enemy?

I wonder what Osama is to you. A distraction, maybe?

VolMagic on July 23, 2008 at 3:36 PM

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
A solid point, however per T. Boone’s plan, the “wind corridor” which runs right straight down the middle of the country from Canada to Texas will provide the wind farms. Thus the distribution will be central to the other parts of the US.

So they use up all the wind before it gets to Louisiana? Screwed again.

easy on July 23, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Except for that shameful taxpayer-financed Wind scam he’s pushing out here in West Texas (shame on you, Boone!), he’s right on the money on ANWR, etc. But you’d have to be an idiot to have been in the energy business for fifty years and not see how insane our present “energy policy” (sic) is.

Of course, the major part of our imported oil is from those REALLY SCARY neighbors of ours (and our two largest trading partners), Canada and Mexico. I’m terrified!!

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 3:45 PM

FINALLY, I was waiting to hear T. Boone support drilling IN ADDITION to his wind power dreams. Drill through the polar bears from crimeny’s sake!!

ihasurnominashun on July 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM

I actually agree with Pickens, we should do it all. Start with drilling, oil shale, oil sands, ANWR, all the oil deposits America has. And all the known technologies that may help, like full scale nuclear power development. Wind power, solar, well it’s not even in the competitive game, maybe some day. Ethanol, not a winner right now.

If we are wondering about how to power oil shale recovery, try a nuclear power plant or two.

There is no reason why America should ship $700 billion a year to terror states, when we have ample supply of energy at home. We probably have a trillion barrels of recoverable oil shale in Colorado alone … Where Sen Salazar (D-Col) just blocked the opening of oil shale lands for recovery because of his little something he stuck into a bill to stop the BLM from issuing final regulations. I guess he thought we all thought he was a new Democrat. when in fact he turns out to be just another Democrat Marxists, unless he is running for election … then just an old fashioned liar.

tarpon on July 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Haha, I had a feeling this was coming. I’ve seen Pickens’ constant commercials, and I knew the left would be holding him up… but I also had a strong suspicion he wasn’t against drilling. Now, will the Dems hope that most of the country doesn’t realize he’s in favor of drilling, or will he once again become “the enemy”?

RightWinged on July 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Forgot to add the the “wind corridor” has very potent, sustained winds.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Doesn’t matter. The wind is variable. Blows 5 knots one day 25 the next shifts minute to minute. You can be producing 100 megawatts from wind one minute and 2 megawatts the next. Texas is currently the top wind producer in the nation with around 1100 or so megawatts of wind produced capacity. That’s the equivalent of one average nuclear unit. There was an event recently where just about all of those generators dropped off due to the wind dying. The odds of that happening are pretty low but it happened. Murphy hangs out at power plants. For some reason Texas at that time had low reserves and high loads and came close to going dark due to the wind. Every electrical utility faces things like this. We actually had an unofficial term for it. We said that the “Do not f**k with the unit light was on. That meant you didn’t do anything to jeopardize unit operation that was not absolutely essential. High load times are money makers but they also stress the system and having a major unreliable source without backup is not a good idea. The utilities will figure out how to handle this.

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:48 PM

(Cha! Sorry about the open tag, dagnabbit.)

tree hugging sister on July 23, 2008 at 3:50 PM

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 3:45 PM

I was hoping you’d show up. Lots of energy and oil talk today.

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Buy oxen.

RushBaby on July 23, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Oldnuke on July 23, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Indeed you know this subject much better than I. However, every little bit helps and Picken’s plan is an multi-pronged approach to get the USA off of foreign energy and more into domestic energy.
We need lots of variety and as quickly as possible.
Nuclear power. Wind, solar. Natural gas is in huge supply in this country. We can do it we just have to have incentive and the clear path, vis-a-vis, little government restrictions.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Except for that shameful taxpayer-financed Wind scam he’s pushing out here in West Texas (shame on you, Boone!), he’s right on the money on ANWR, etc. But you’d have to be an idiot to have been in the energy business for fifty years and not see how insane our present “energy policy” (sic) is.

Of course, the major part of our imported oil is from those REALLY SCARY neighbors of ours (and our two largest trading partners), Canada and Mexico. I’m terrified!!

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 3:45 PM

I think the windmills is just throwing a bone to the dogs.
Foreign oil is our enemy is a great slogan, and should be repeated often by the conservatives.

right2bright on July 23, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Look, we’re going to import energy. You can’t get around that fact. Importing energy is not “evil” – it has been going on since Marcus Samuel, the founder of Shell Oil – perfected the Baku oil tankers in the 1880s.

Even Saudi Arabia imports its refined gasoline.

We import most everything else- even low-sulfur coal.
We import most of our critical metals, in many cases, 100% of them, as well as over 80% of our very critical electronic components.

Remember – we have been a net IMPORTER of crude oil for 68 out of the last 75 years (see p. 17, “Gusher of Lies”). In that period, we have produced over 80 billion barrels of oil ourselves (well over 45 billion in Texas alone – over 50 billion since Spindletop on Jan 10, 1901) and yet we still have imported many billions more.

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Pickens is about the only person making sense at the moment. You need wind, you need LNG and you need oil. also include solar, geothermal, tidal etc into the mix. Forgeign oil is enemy number one. We can not be fighting wars over oil for the next 20 years when we have the resoucres in our backyard. And yes we are the Saudi Ariabia of coal, wind and oil shale. We have more assets in this country then in most other countries, pluse we had the productivity and work ethic to use those resources that is until the dems took control

unseen on July 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM

tree hugging sister on July 23, 2008 at 3:48 PM

haven’t seen the money honey in a while…

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Currently, the US uses 20 million barrels of oil a day, 12 million of which we import. We also import refined gasoline, thanks to a lack of refining capacity in the US. The reserves in the Green River formation would supply us with 182 years of what we import now, or 109 years at our total rate of consumption. Once in motion, Green River alone could give us complete energy independence far beyond the time we need to find alternatives to fossil fuels. — Ed Morrissey

Absolutely, lets drill it all INCLUDING the Green River formation. These are all KNOWN reserves which would last us perhaps 200 years once developed. In the meantime we could casually look around for more oil and you can bet we would find plenty. Build nuclear power plants too, I’m sick and tired of this energy crisis crap that the Democrats and green-socialist have caused with their environmental scams.

ENERGY FOR AMERICA NOW !!

Maxx on July 23, 2008 at 4:07 PM

We import most everything else- even low-sulfur coal.

we wouldn’t have to if Clinton hadn’t done this:

In fact, the declaration of 1.7 million Utah acres as a national monument, thereby depriving an energy-starved U.S. up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low-sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion and minable with minimal surface impact, was a political payoff to the family of James Riady.

He’s the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. James was found guilty of — and paid a multimillion dollar fine for — funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s presidential run in 1992.

link

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 4:07 PM

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM

You assumption is wrong. You equate importing with need. While there may be some metals etc that we need. The majority of oil imports have happened because of cost. Same with shipping jobs to china. americian can do the same job with usally better quyaility however it is cheaper to farm the work out.

If we wanted to be almost energy independent we could be in less than 20 yera IMO.

Importing is fine until it becomes a national security issue like oil is fast becoming.

unseen on July 23, 2008 at 4:08 PM

what the hell? Remember when we actually listened to a person’s entire statement?

We can’t drill our way out of this problem, but it will help RIGHT NOW and that’s what we need.

I think I have to call up my fourth grade teachers and apologize that their students have forsaken them.

Pickens is paying huge cash right now for two advertisements to show DURING MEET THE PRESS. Ad junkies anyone? That’s one of the most expensive time slots on television. Most of the “FDR Democrats” that are retired watch the show. My grandparents that didn’t even vote for Reagan are voting for McCain. Obama and his policies scare the bejeezus out of them.

A Nation is only as strong as what it produces. It’s inconceivable that our nation would ignore naturally occurring events that CAN be harnessed to plug into our human capital output. That’s what energy does. The lower the price, the better.

The longer we waste time the greater the potential for other powers to surpass our output. China, Brazil, and India are installing the technologies that we won’t.

gabriel sutherland on July 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 4:05 PM

I think she thinks she’s much too important to be on display all the time now. {8^P Only comes out for the big dogs.

tree hugging sister on July 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM

With the Senate debating energy policy this week, some have pointed to billionaire T. Boone Pickens’ efforts to build massive wind farms as the direction America should take in the long term.

Wind farms would have a small impact on reducing our carbon output, but it doesn’t solve the bigger problem of transportation costs. Oil is not a significant source of electricity (about 2% of non-transportation energy production). We use coal, nuclear, and hydro (in that order) to generate electricity. We use oil to make fuel and plastic, and for heating in some cold-weather cities. Not sure why Reid would assume that wind farms would do anything to break foreign oil dependence.

RightOFLeft on July 23, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Forgot to add the the “wind corridor” has very potent, sustained winds.

carbon_footprint on July 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble.. Many’s the time (I work in this area and pracically live out there as well, since that is all in the Permian Basin oilpatch) I have driven past the big wind farms in Iraan, or by the big King Mesa turbines in McCamey (The self-proclaimed “Wind Capital of Texas”) or even the huge Sweetwater wind farms – the largest in the world, I believe – and seen the blades either turning very very slowly or not at all.
And that all is EXACTLY where Pickens wants to stick his scammy wind farms.

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Importing is fine until it becomes a national security issue like oil is fast becoming.

Oil, no matter where it is in the world, regardless of our import to consumption ratio, has always been a national security issue for the United States.

Ensuring a reliable, cost effective, transportable energy supply has been US policy for the last 115 years.

gabriel sutherland on July 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM

tree hugging sister on July 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM

she’s rich and beautiful…I’d never disagree with a lady like her….bet she’s VERY high maintenance….

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Y’all, Pickins was never against drilling.
Lefties just jumped aboard his wind farm bandwagon
thinking they had a convert.

He is still all for wind farms. Locally though, he is kind of toning it down. NIMBYS north of Texas are so against them he may let them do it themselves. And concentrate on building them in Texas.

And the oil hating Texans have okayed upgrading their transmission system to support the wind farms proposed in Texas.

Texas will still have all of its other power generating facilities and use the wind farms to supplement them, or horror, sell its excess power to other states for a small profit.

cozmo on July 23, 2008 at 4:21 PM

It is good that he has moved away from what was essentially a self serving advertising campaign. The windmills would go on his land and Texas has already committed $4 billion for the transmission lines. He also has lots of gas (not just from beans either).

The change gives him more credibility in my book.

davod on July 23, 2008 at 4:22 PM

And that all is EXACTLY where Pickens wants to stick his scammy wind farms.

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM

should stick em out by area 51…get the wind from the alien spaceships going by….

trust no one…deny everything…

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 4:22 PM

unseen on July 23, 2008 at 4:08 PM

What assumption are you talking about?
The assumption that we are going to keep on importing energy, which is absolutely true, as we live in a interdependent world, or the assumption that we need to drill our asses off (something that I not only believe but am actually doing myself), mine and burn our cheap and very plentiful coal, split our (mostly imported) neutrons and then tell the greenies to eat shit and die?

Do you a problem with that idea?

There’s no either-or here.
We will produce and we will import.
The question is: why won’t the leftwing traitors let us produce?

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 4:24 PM

We use oil to make fuel and plastic, and for heating in some cold-weather cities.

In the Wall Street Journal last week a private citizen used their own money to BUY an advertisement that appeared in the Op/Ed section. The private citizen was Jack Caveney of Illinois.

Caveney is CTO at Panduit Corporation. They buy a lot of plastics. GE was a big supplier to Panduit. GE just sold their plastics division to an investment conglomerate in Dubai. Syonara 5000 good jobs.

GE Plastics had some debt issues, but they were directly related to the surge in the price of oil. Costly oil makes for costly plastics. How do I get the best price? Hold hands with the sheikhs. Just make sure you have vodka in the other hand to throw at the Russian that will beat you to the spot.

If you think that ports battle with Dubai Ports World was fun, get ready for investors from Dubai to start buying up anything they can get their hands on to relocate its business to the desert.

gabriel sutherland on July 23, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Even the DOE admits that “wind power” is actually “tax power”: that is, large wind farms are doomed money-losers which will never pay back the original investment. The only reason people push large wind farms is to reap the huge Tax Credits (meaning YOUR TAX MONEY)!!! In addition, wind projects typically push interconnect and load balancing problems off onto existing utilities, which raises costs and electric rates for all electricity users!!

See the straight scoop on T. Boon Pickens wind farm, which shows where the money really comes from. HINT: It is NOT from the people which use power from the wind farm. (Thanks to petefrt for the link)

“Wind Power” is an even bigger boondoggle than Ethanol!!!

landlines on July 23, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Pickens snookered the liberals again…LOL

Wade on July 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM

He got me, too. It seemed really weird for an “oilman” to try to go all out wind (bag). Shoulda checked out his site before writing him off as another greentard.

NTWR on July 23, 2008 at 4:46 PM

T. Boone thinks McCain is partially right.
I think T. Boone is partially right.

We need to get all the (American) oil we can,
                            all the coal we can,
                            all the nuclear we can,
                            all the hydro-power we can,
                            all the whatever-else-you-want-to-invest-in-after-that we can.

In the Dallas area (last year?), TXU was talking about 8 new clean coal plants. Then the enviro-nazis threatened and they backed down to two and then backed down to nothing. Gutless, but then what do you expect? The leftist courts will side with the eco-terrorists every time.

urbancenturion on July 23, 2008 at 4:47 PM

I think he just drilled Gore…up the keister…

sabbott on July 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM

TexasJew on July 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM

I make the trip from houston to lubbock a couple times a month and go bye just about every turbine that has been put out there. it seems to me that more are not turning than are. By the way there are miles and miles (someday I want to either count them or measure distance because it is huge) and they only produce enough for a couple towns.

Pickens is on board for one reason. MONEY. the federal goverment subisdizes something like $25.oo per kilowatt hour and it is still more expensive to use wind therefore Im positive the current profit margin is larger than most could even fathom. Not that there is anything wrong with him doing it but it is quite funny to see libs tought how great pickens is yet dont even realize the motivations which they rail about in every other big business venture (IE big oil)

CaptainObvious on July 23, 2008 at 5:03 PM

Should stick em out by area 51…get the wind from the alien spaceships going by….

trust no one…deny everything…

right4life on July 23, 2008 at 4:22 PM

We need to find a way of harnessing lightning.. 1.21 GIGAWATTS

8^}

Chakra Hammer on July 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM

In the Dallas area (last year?), TXU was talking about 8 new clean coal plants. Then the enviro-nazis threatened and they backed down to two and then backed down to nothing. Gutless, but then what do you expect? The leftist courts will side with the eco-terrorists every time.

urbancenturion on July 23, 2008 at 4:47 PM

IIRC, there was a lot more to it than that. Local governments and stockholders were the big holdups. The eco-nuts didn’t get their chance before the plants were killed.

cozmo on July 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM

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