Exit question: What did they fight for? To have troops yanked out before the country’s democratic edifice is strong enough to handle the security vacuum?

Excellent!

That’s not the America I know!

Now that’s not to say there aren’t real vets who would make the comments he made… I just have a bad feeling about ~this~ guy.
Diogenes of Sinope on July 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Maybe because his real name is Ensign Travis Mayweather.

Exit question: What did they fight for? To have troops yanked out before the country’s democratic edifice is strong enough to handle the security vacuum?

Man, what a dumb thing to fight for.

Neither Obama nor his lemmings know enough about military affairs to understand that bases in Iraq would not be manned by an occupation force, but would be a passive deterrent to Iran and Syria. In other words, such a garrison force would preserve the peace. One might recall that after Khomeini broke Iran’s alliance with the USA, Saddam saw weakness and immediately attacked, causing a million deaths. Obama, having learned nothing from history, wishes to doom the Iraq to repeat that.

MB4 on July 23, 2008 at 7:10 PM

Thanks for the heads up.

I’d like to see his DD 214 before commenting.

old trooper on July 23, 2008 at 6:32 PM

That reminds me. I may be able to save some of you some money although some of you may have already been saving it.

Over the weekend of the 4th Home Depot advertised that if you had proof of military service, even prior service you got a 10% discount. I bought some stuff there late on the last day of the weekend of the 4th and said to the clerk something like, “I just made it” and she said you could always get 10% off with proof of service, like a dd214, they just don’t advertise it. I bought some more stuff there about a week ago, showed a copy of my dd214 and 10% off.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Thank you too Doc for that quote. I’d almost forgot about it.

Great American = “The Duke” 1973

Outrageous!

Rear Echelon Mother ….
coyoterex on July 23, 2008 at 6:47 PM

Thanx big Rex.
I almost got it right in my head. But was waiting for a conformation on that one.

Not a Marine reference unfortunately.

Exactly.

Where do they find these libtard servicemen?

Thanks for your service, now STFU!

cntrlfrk on July 23, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Even in a great group like the US Military, you will have a rotten apple or two. I can think of a couple of people I knew, while I was enlisted, that milked injuries to get an early discharge from the service when they decided they wanted an early discharge.

coyoterex on July 23, 2008 at 5:24 PM

The Demorats are keenly aware of their desperate problem with the electorate – that they are not just weak on national defense, but widely regarded as anti-military.

So they scramble fill that void and are promising all sorts of career goodies to any pansy from the military that is willing to sell out to the commie left, like this douche. Of great assistance is the undeniable fact that most of the GOP politicians are assholes, too, giving the reasonably cynical military man a lot to consider when offered these goodies.

But he’s still a douche.

REMF?
catmman on July 23, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Sorry Kitty…that ones new to me too. Some help please.

old trooper on July 23, 2008 at 6:32 PM

I’m with you on that one trooper.

MB4, look at the ninth word, now say it three times to the mirror, that’s right the word is “most”.
I don’t think anymore needs to be said…I think most people know you will stretch any thing to try to make the most out of nothing. When in fact this post of yours is at most… foolish.

right2bright on July 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM

I take it that is your way of tacitly admitting that you can not dispute his obvious McJekyll-and-McHyde McConfusion as documented by what I posted.

You still have not earned any McCain points now have you? So sad as you try so hard.

Now, that youngin is not old enough to have been Drafted.
So, I reckon that he must have volunteered, if he served at all. Junior Enlisted serve where they are sent. Let me remind you all that we still have troops in Bosnia and Kosovo, courtesy of Bill Clinton. Now when is that mission over? We have had a comittment there since 1999 and still have troops there.

Maybe that young man needs to understand that back in 1861
a lot of folks fought for his ancestors Freedom in this country. It was the most costly conflict to date. I spent 28 years fighting for other peoples Freedom. In places that looked hopeless. His Freedom was purchased with the blood of generations that were sent into hopeless situations and prevailed.

He can save his nuggets of wisdom & complaints for someone other than me. He should have joined the Peace Corps!

McCain himself has said he expects to have most troops home within five years…
What ever happened to fifty years, make it a 100!!!
MB4 on July 23, 2008 at 6:05 PM

MB4, look at the ninth word, now say it three times to the mirror, that’s right the word is “most”.
I don’t think anymore needs to be said…I think most people know you will stretch any thing to try to make the most out of nothing. When in fact this post of yours is at most… foolish.

cntrlfrk on July 23, 2008 at 5:16 PM

LOL

Just strike the phrase “libtard”

McCain himself has said he expects to have most troops home within five years.

With McCain never minding what Maliki, the head of a supposed sovereign state wants in any of this, of course.

What ever happened to fifty years, make it a 100!!! ?

Juan with the McWind?

Back in November, 2007 it was -

Charlie Rose: Do you think that this – Korea, South Korea is an analogy of where Iraq might be.

John McCain: I don’t think so.

Charlie Rose: Even if there are no casualties?

John McCain: No, but I can see an American presence for a while. But eventually I think because of the nature of the society in Iraq and the religious aspects of it that America eventually withdraws.

Then a few months ago with McCain it was -

“Make it a hundred!!! We’ve been in South Korea, we’ve been in Japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That’s fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you.”

Now he’s down to 5 years?

It’s kind of like watching a tennis match up close between McJekyll and McHyde.

Joe! Joe!. Somebody get me Joe!!!
- John McCain

What walks like a stealth Dem organization pushing defeat, floats like a stealth Dem organization pushing defeat and quacks like stealth Dem organization pushing defeat?

Unfortunately, the VoteVets ad here ignores the advice of a General they wanted people to listen to back in 2006 and 2007:

Batiste appeared on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer in April 2006. When asked about his proposed strategy for Iraq, he said, “Well, to begin with, I think we must complete the mission in Iraq. We have no option; we need to be successful and protect our strategic interests in the region; we need to set the Iraqi people up for self-reliance with their form of representative government that takes into account tribal, religious and ethnic complexity that has always defined Iraq. The Brits had a hell of a time with that in the ’10s and ’20s of the last century; nothing new at all. And we got to set them up for self-reliance so they can go on it on their own. I think we’re going to be successful. There’s nothing this country can’t do, if we put our mind to it, but we need to do it right. We need to mobilize this country and employ a comprehensive regional and global strategy.”

In testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives in June 2007, Batiste said, “Secondary interests are that our withdrawal cannot create a humanitarian disaster or an Iraq dominated by another state(s) in the region. This may require a residual force of up to 30,000 US troops for decades to protect the US mission, train and advise the Iraqi security forces, provide a counter balance to unintended consequences of Iran and a greater “Kurdistan”, and take direct action against residual Al Qaeda in Iraq. We cannot walk away from our strategic interests.”

In late 2007, he asserted that the military alone would not be successful in Iraq. On December 8, 2007, Batiste co-wrote an editorial in the Washington Post stating, “Third, the counterinsurgency campaign led by Gen. David Petraeus is the correct approach in Iraq. It is showing promise of success and, if continued, will provide the Iraqi government the opportunities it desperately needs to stabilize its country. Ultimately, however, these military gains must be cemented with regional and global diplomacy, political reconciliation, and economic recover — tools yet sufficiently utilized. Today’s tactical gains in Iraq — while a necessary pre-condition for political reconciliation — will crumble without a deliberate and comprehensive strategy”. He argues that at the moment, such a strategy does not exist.

(emphasis mine)

1GooDDaDDy on July 23, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Thanks for the translation.

“Pogue factor”
Mike D. on July 23, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Man, it’s been a long time since I’ve heard that reference.

Pogue = “Office personnel”

Semper Fi