Help me out here. It’s only tangentially related to this post, but I was wondering.

Isn’t Obama really just running a page out of the national socialist party handbook?

We have the charasmatic leader schtick. But more importantly than that–Obama is preaching a “government solves everything” attitude. He’s anti corporatist. Look at his recent proposal to do that national civilian force–to do, basically, the jobs private industry does.

I don’t think we can argue that Obama isn’t preaching a definitely more socialist platform than anyone else. He finds a scapegoat, “The rich” instead of a racial group.

Now, the nationalism part. The above I wrote isn’t news, but everyone ties “national socialism” to, well, militant nationalism. And as far as we know, Obama if anything hates America–he’s certainly not a “build the military to 200 divisions and invade Poland” kind of guy.

But what was the National Socialist party argument? That the country had been shamed by the Versailles treaty; they had been humiliated and needed to get their national honor back.

Isn’t that the same message Obama preaches? That the Bush administration has humiliated and cost the USA it’s honor, and we need to get it back? He IS promoting a sense of nationalism–a “feel good” nationalism. The USA needs to feel good about itself again–thus the “Hope and Change” Bit. He wants to make this a “country we can be proud of”–witness the Michelle Obama proud gaffe.

Am I totally off base, or is this really the national socialist ideas being peddled by Obama, with a slight update? Yeah, we don’t have the virulent racism, but we have the class envy, and the surrogate smears of Republicans as the evil scapegoats who drink the blood of babies, etc etc etc. Also the anti-Christianism. Or the ecological scary rhetoric.

Just to be clear, I’m not suggesting Obama is a Nazi. But I think he’s using their electoral platform a lot more than I feel comfy with. The National Socialist party got into power because they had an attractive platform for many people. And that platform, with a few twists, seems to be what Obama is preaching.

Or am I just being paranoid?

Vanceone on July 21, 2008 at 3:56 PM

I don’t think you’re far off here…

National Socialism, otherwise known as Nazism, utilized portions of the conservative movement to attract members of the Right in Germany in order to elect Hitler to power. Once that occurred and they were no longer needed, they were discarded.

Many mistakenly view Nazism as identical to Facism, which it is not. Although Hitler used some elements of Facism in the earlier years, National Socialism/Nazism is MUCH MORE SOCIALIST than it will ever be a right-wing ideology.

Therefore, to view Obama’s campaign in this light, whether accurately or not, appears to me to be an interesting analogy worth pursuing, especialy given his 20 years in a “church” that preaches a Marxist, more than a religious, ideology, known as black liberation theology.

I think you may less paranoid than you think…

I would also commend you for your acceptance of the ACLU dude. You can’t win the peaceniks if you condemn them as incapable of making any good choices. That said, the ACLU dude is living in a deluded state to give a speech for the group yet roll his eyes at their antics.

craig on July 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM

Thanks for the kudos, I’m still in contact with Cres (the ACLU guy) and had many conversations with him over the last weeks.

He knows on what side the bread is buttered but is a little overwhelmed by his “troops”

Reasonable people can come to reasonable solutions. (Much of the time).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyMv-myhFs&feature=user

I watched all 5 parts, and it is awesome. I need to catch the Boulder-ites here in Colorado on tape like this. I’m glad you had backup, GooDDaDDy. That seemed dangerous to me, but I’m a skinny 170lb white guy who has never been in a scrap.

I would also commend you for your acceptance of the ACLU dude. You can’t win the peaceniks if you condemn them as incapable of making any good choices. That said, the ACLU dude is living in a deluded state to give a speech for the group yet roll his eyes at their antics.

Memorial Day Adventure

I guarantee you’ll find it worth you while.
Feel free to do with it as you will. It’s on me. Enjoy.

Thanks.
Your Friend

1GooDDaDDy

1GooDDaDDy on July 21, 2008 at 7:23 PM

I still cannot access the video. It takes me to my sign in page and when I sign in, it won’t accept it. I tried other videos and they work fine. I wonder if YouTube is messing with me.

craig on July 22, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Here, here sir.

Now onto mellow VikingGoneWild exit question:
What about having a designated spitter accompany the film crew and when some jackass spits on the crews then the DS lays a nice big green fire mission right on them?

These people need to find out where the line is because someday they’re going to cross the wrong person who’ll end up wiping out the entire protest Seagal style.

i know its not right, and we are to be above this, but i would love to see the next person that spits on one of our troops “KNOCK THE HELL OUT”

kara26 on July 21, 2008 at 4:00 PM

there was a time when that was ‘right’ before the PC police took over.

Someone spits on me, I feel I have a duty and obligation to help their dentist put another mortgage payment on his house.

Sadly though, these days I’d be the one sued for $10 million dollars.

HELP HELP I’M BEING REPRESSED

Bloody Peasants

Thank you for what you did. What I saw perfectly defines the left. They are nuts and violent. They want freedom of speech as long as they agree with it. I hope that teacher loses her job although I doubt she will. She needs her meds increased..stat!
Again, thank you for teaching your sons what is right and good.

These retards have the beach by the end of the pier covered with fake crosses to make their simple minded point.

Thanks.
Your Friend

1GooDDaDDy

1GooDDaDDy on July 21, 2008 at 7:23 PM

I have been trying for about two hours to view this but You Tube keeps saying the functionality is not available. I have no idea what that means!

Here’s a brilliant idea!

Everyone of these protesters,should have a court
order of protection——against themselves,and
should not be able to be ————within 20
feet———of themselves for their own good!

The anti-war protesters in this country? Do I question their patriotism? You bet your ass I do.
……

1GooDDaDDy on July 21, 2008 at 7:23 PM

I am suprised they didn’t start ripping the flags out of the grass and throwing them in the streets.

Well done and thank you!

I bet the jihadists are laughing their ass off at us when they see stuff like this coming out of our country.

don’t think because this heroin junkie skanky panhandling whore is female it is wrong to knock her the F out .

if a few of these idiots found out there is a price to pay for their action they might think before they do it . Don’t worry thou she will be dead of an over dose or hep c in about 3 years .

And if she has any infectious disease. Its assault with a deadly weapon 245 or possible attempted murder 217 if the cops and DA and man enough to charge it.

I am pretty sure she is not unknown to the local police.

1GooDDaDDy

I couldn’t even get thru the 1st video with dry eyes. You and your family are to be saluted. Thank you all.

I know getting all pumped up and angry and talking about kicking people’s asses makes everyone feel really good about themselves, but try and show some perspective. As a Soldier and professional, that’s what I try to do.

Muswell Hillbilly on July 21, 2008 at 6:12 PM

I doubt your a soldier, but after this read I know you ain’t no professional, Hillbilly.