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posted at 10:20 pm on July 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
“The Muslims have said either we kneel or they’re going to kill us.”
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The push for sharia law in the UK, special recognition in Canada and the US seems to have increased since 2001. Even if all muslims do not believe this; they have benefited from those that do.
lorien1973 on July 18, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Col. Day holds every significant combat award and is the nation’s most highly decorated officer, as well as the most decorated since General Douglass MacArthur. He holds nearly seventy military decorations and awards, of which more than fifty are for combat. Most notable are: the Medal of Honor, the Air Force Cross, the Distinguished Service Medal, the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Air Medal with nine Oak Leaf Clusters, the Bronze Star for Valor with two Oak Leaf Cluster, the Bronze Star, and the Purple Heart with three Clusters. Col. Day was presented Vietnam’s highest medal by President Thieu, two Vietnamese Gallantry Crosses, and Vietnamese Wings, and wears twelve Campaign Battle Stars.
http://mrgrg-ms.org/col-day.html
bnelson44 on July 18, 2008 at 10:26 PM
That sounds more like an argument to get out of Iraq as the place, or so I hear, is filled with Muslims and has Islam enshrined in it’s constitution.
Very fuzzy math.
MB4 on July 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Zalmay Khalilzad was unavailable for comment.
amerpundit on July 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Technology is such a wonderful thing – it doesn’t allow political weasels to pontificate, obfuscate, “inartfully express” themselves, or be “verbally maladroit”, and get away with it.
Videos rejoice.
Entelechy on July 18, 2008 at 10:30 PM
amerpundit on July 18, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I wonder what this guy thinks about the American Army General kissing, or having some Colonel or whomever it was, kiss the Koran and ask for forgiveness for insulting Islam.
MB4 on July 18, 2008 at 10:32 PM
The third alternative for a non-Muslim, living deep in a traditional Muslim World, is to be a second-class servant all your life. To a lot of people, that’s a life not worth living.
RBMN on July 18, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Europe was not filled with Nazis who wanted to kill us 5 years after we invaded and no Generals kissed Mein Kampf, as far as I know anyway. I don’t think that the new German government had Nazism enshrined in their constitution either.
MB4 on July 18, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Somebody needs to tell the Iraqis who are routing al-Qaeda and other Islamic radicals that they’re not supposed to do that.
After all, all Muslims think alike and are united against us infidels.
So the story goes…..
SteveMG on July 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM
I was scanning the article and site to determine whether it was an opinion blog or a news source.
I’m still not sure.
Hannibal Smith on July 18, 2008 at 10:36 PM
As we’ve learned here; even if its in the constitution, it doesn’t mean very much ;)
lorien1973 on July 18, 2008 at 10:37 PM
The German government doesn’t. However, you seem to think that the fact a country is filled with people and an ideology of people wanting to kill us means we should just get up and leave.
amerpundit on July 18, 2008 at 10:37 PM
All anyone has to do is read. Read what is out there and you will see. Not all of them want to jihad the world, but those who do not wish to jihad the world, will not speak out against those who do.
bloggless on July 18, 2008 at 10:38 PM
+1
In fact +2. I know a young man who would buy you a beer for that one.
Limerick on July 18, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Yep. All of those Muslims that fight against the terrorists side-by-side with our guys are obviously confused as to whom they’re shooting at.
amerpundit on July 18, 2008 at 10:39 PM
This is what should happen in Iraq! But, sadly, it hasn’t.
[Taylor ties up Dr. Zaius]Dr. Zira: Taylor! Don’t treat him that way!
George Taylor: Why not?
Dr. Zira: It’s humiliating!
George Taylor: The way you humiliated me? All of you? YOU led me around on a LEASH!
Cornelius: That was different. We thought you were inferior.
George Taylor: Now you know better.
[Major General Jeffrey Hammond ties up Radhwaniya tribal leaders and pours pig fat over them]
Maliki: Major General Jeffrey Hammond! Don’t treat them that way!
Major General Jeffrey Hammond: Why not?
Maliki: It’s humiliating!
Major General Jeffrey Hammond: The way they humiliated me? All of them? THEY made us KISS their God damned filthy book!
Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi: That was different. We thought you were weak.
Major General Jeffrey Hammond: Now you know better.
MB4 on July 18, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Lighten up all, it’s the ’08 campaign.
Entelechy on July 18, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Well, apparently others think they know more about Islam than the Iraqis dying for their country against the Islamists.
Question: Who are the chief victims of radical Islam?
Answer: Muslims.
SteveMG on July 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Yep.
amerpundit on July 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Doesn’t exactly sound like madness to me. Beats nation building for them anyway.
MB4 on July 18, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I respect Bud, but I don’t agree with him. All Muslims don’t want us to bow down or get killed. We’re not rebuilding for the people who hate us. We’re rebuilding for the people who want to go back to their everyday lives.
amerpundit on July 18, 2008 at 10:47 PM
That’s the plan at least, Amer.
Too bad one of al Sadr’s guys will probably win next year’s Iraqi elections.
alphie on July 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Islam’s message is quite clear…
Karmi on July 18, 2008 at 11:04 PM
There is a fantastic series on Youtube by a native Arabic speaking scholar called Islam for Dummies that I highly recommend. Currently there are around 200 videos and ultimately will reach 400. The best way to go through the video is to start here at the Introduction and then click on his name, search for the next number in the series, e.g., 1, 2, 3…
TheBigOldDog on July 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Allah hates you this I know
For the Koran tells me so
Infidels Christians and Jews we make bow
They are weak but we are strong
Yes Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you,
The Koran tells me so
Allah hates you, you will die
Blow your ass up to the sky
Say the salat, chop off head,
Eat falafel, go to bed.
Aleph on July 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Thanks for the tip and link!
Karmi on July 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM
So is Christianity’s message (obviously, a different one).
Doesn’t mean everybody follows it.
SteveMG on July 18, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Keepin’ hope alive, huh?
jl on July 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM
You’ll have to forgive him. He had a bad war.
The US won.
SteveMG on July 18, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Thats the strategy? Befriend them into submission? Buying Sunnis turned the tide. You had to pay them to defend themselves from “AQ” and you will go on paying and paying. And the victory seems to be mainly over the Democrats.
This man of many accolades speaks the hard truth and you deny it because it may ripple and affect the November election. This will be another hard lesson. But that’s how it has to be.
BL@KBIRD on July 18, 2008 at 11:21 PM
We fought with no caveats in WWII. Total Victory was the stated purpose with the entire Nation and Allies on the same page. WWII cannot be compared to any War before it or after it. There were no Reids, Pelosis, Obamas or Murthas in the Senate or Congress then and no John Kerry types that
came home early without disabling wounds to slander their service members or consort with the enemy like he did in Paris while on reserve status. Kerry would been hung for Treason back in those days. No Shit!
Having been to three Wars in my lifetime I know the difference between WWII and my wars, my deployments in horseshit nation building missions in Somalia, the former Yugo Republic, thanks Bill Clinton! Where is the public outcry on Kosovo and Bosnia, WTF, we still have folks deployed there!
Does Wonderboy Obama have a plan to bring them home? Not bloody likely. He still has two more of the 58 States to visit but he is campaigning in Europe and the Middle East? Does he think that they can vote in American elections?
As a Constitutional Scholar he looks pretty damned stupid!
Germany was defeated in Total, Occupied in Force and Military Tribunals executed Nazi leadership that were not killed in battle. The Marshall Plan re-built Europe and the Germans were grateful. We stayed on to keep subsequent Communists from enslaving Germany for decades.
Every War is different and every war since then did not result in Victory on that scale. Get that straight right now.
Islam has infiltrated the Western World with one goal, convert infidels or kill them. I spent 10 years of a 28 year career in the military in Islamic territory. I know what we are facing there and at home now.
So folks, do not compare any war to another. Don’t try to BS me about Iraq or Afghanistan. I have been there and 99% of you have not. Any philosophical nonsense does not apply.
I was sent to places where diplomacy failed. The UN is worthless. Jihad is very real and very determined to take away your life as you know it.
Obama is an overly ambitious punk freshman Senator that is lacking in the skills for the office that he holds. America’s reputation has been eroded since the Clinton Administration regarding credibility overseas. It will take decades to restore that and Obama does not posess the experience or skills to get it done.
Just my observations. I am retired now. I am ranching in Montana where I was born. I do not need more taxes. I do not need criticism from the peanut gallery. I spent the majority of my adult life going to dangerous places from duty for those of you that thought that service was beneath you.
I have an advanced degree in International Relations and experience in practicing it in places that you would not take your Families for vactations!
Obama is the wrong guy at the wrong time. Choose wisely!
old trooper on July 18, 2008 at 11:22 PM
What will the right say if one of al Sadr’s guys wins the Iraqi presidency next year?
Same as always?
Oopsey Doodle…
alphie on July 18, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Alphie: In Iraq or Here?
old trooper on July 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I wonder what BHO’s military pals say?
Oh yeah, he has none!
carbon_footprint on July 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM
It’s called self-determination.
If the new government minds its own business, doesn’t support terrorism against us and our allies and doesn’t attacks its neighbors, so be it.
We’ll be sad and you’ll be happy.
No surprise there.
SteveMG on July 18, 2008 at 11:28 PM
We’ll probly be sayin, “All hail the Obamassiah”.
Ciannaky on July 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM
What I found interesting were the comments concerning the Obama/Iraq video clip. This is just one of the comments:
The libtards accuse the RNCC of lying even though the video only uses Obama’s own words to illustrate his history of flipflopping on Iraq.
dawgyear on July 18, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Old trooper (11:22)
I’m gonna print that comment, and hang it on the wall. I’ll need to read it again in November.
I hope you’ll repost it the day before voting starts.
regards
rockhauler on July 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Wow, this clown managed to get the entire liberal arsenal against McCain in one comment to the linked article:
Rick on July 18, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Old Trooper (11:22)
Thank-you Sir, for your service to your country.
My father says the same thing about WWII, and war in general.
Each is different, each requires different tactics, all require determination. Thankyou for the reminder.
dhunter on July 18, 2008 at 11:43 PM
*salutes*
And that doesn’t start to cover it. Please don’t stop teaching.
RushBaby on July 18, 2008 at 11:52 PM
old trooper
I don’t know how many bratwurst or how many beers you can handle but if you get out of that frozen paradise of yours, and head to Texas, I’ll stock up on what I can afford of both.
Limerick on July 18, 2008 at 11:59 PM
old trooper, like I say here, often to the consternation of some, you, those who served, and those who do serve, are our betters.
The rest of us pontificate freely, and often stupidly.
Entelechy on July 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Are they cooked in real german beer?
Oh not cool, I want some!
upinak on July 19, 2008 at 12:12 AM
I’d rather the enemy be killed there than here, but I would not hesitate to kill them here.
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 12:14 AM
They also serve, who only stand silently by.
OldEnglish on July 19, 2008 at 12:17 AM
So would you not put nation building in Iraq, where Islam is enshrined in their constitution, a lot closer to Kosovo and Bosnia than to WWII?
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Ich auch
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Not really.
I served. How many on this site think that I am their better?
I rest my case.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:22 AM
I think that irony has to be lost on the person who posted this…
hindmost on July 19, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Kneitinger
Dunkel und Shiner Heffeweisen.
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I can’t speak for the others. I do think so. You served. I didn’t. I’m the lucky one that people like you, and all others in the service, have and do protect me to be free, and to be idiotic sometimes.
Entelechy on July 19, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Bud Day admitted he still calls Vietnamese “gooks”, he says it comes from the almost six years of horrifying treatment he received at their hands; he just can’t change after that.
Now I know that people like alphie will get hot and bothered because McCain uses the word “gook”, but in context of what he endured, there are many of us who just don’t care.
Bishop on July 19, 2008 at 12:32 AM
I do.
RushBaby on July 19, 2008 at 12:33 AM
In spite of your humility, I agree with Entelechy, and Kipling’s “you are a better man than I, Gunga Din.”
OldEnglish on July 19, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Direct contact with Islam in the raw in Iraq and Afghanistan by hundreds of thousands of our military (and civilian) personnel is the only real good thing to come out of these ideologically half-baked enterprises.
More Americans know, first hand, the results of this bizarre, retrograde faith.
It is a mess of schisms (sunni/ sh’ite, sufi, ahmidaya, et al) and a mass of intolerances, and the more our people know of the underlying threat enshrined in their dogmas, the better armed we are for the future.
A pity our politicians and media and educators have mostly failed to learn the existential lesson of our era, and still spew ignorantly about their ideas on Islam.
Never bothering to read the Koran.
Or history.
profitsbeard on July 19, 2008 at 12:33 AM
But my being in RVN did nothing to protect you and I don’t think that on balance anyway, if I was a generation younger, and this was a generation from now, and I had been in Iraq, I would be of any different opinion.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Yet, profitsbeard, they would perish first, under that system. Their ignorance and PC would kill us all, but them first, and they are clueless, like ostriches…
Entelechy on July 19, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Not really. I was just younger and more naive then.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:40 AM
It makes no sense to argue with you MB4. You can accept this or not. It will not change my stand on this.
The Soldiers, past and present, all branches, are simply special, a very different breed constitutionally, from the rest of us.
I stand by my conviction, humbly, as I don’t come close to them in their and their families’ sacrifices to this nation.
Entelechy on July 19, 2008 at 12:40 AM
MB4, just take a bow, or not, and go away to smoke a cigar and have some micro-brew. Just quit arguing on this fine Friday night. If for nothing else, just to humor me.
Entelechy on July 19, 2008 at 12:42 AM
I wasn’t aware it took standing in front of a civilian, gun drawn, to be considered as a protector of the nation or as a contributor to the greater good of the United States.
Tens of millions of Americans have served, and no matter the type or duration of their service, they all contributed in some small way.
Bishop on July 19, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Imam Bush strikes again
By Diana West:
There Imam Bush goes again.
“I am astonished by President Bush when he claims there is nothing in the Quran that justifies jihad violence in the name of Islam,” jailed Islamic scholar Abu Qatada said under similar circumstances almost six years ago. “Is he some kind of Islamic scholar? Has he ever actually read the Quran?”
No. He’s just leader of the Free World — a Free World that has become less free and more dhimmified on his severely myopic watch.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Col Day is a real American hero. I’ll stand with him. For those that do not understand the way the MSM has been trying to side line him, I suggest you check out Greyhawk’s look at this.
Dawnsblood on July 19, 2008 at 12:49 AM
He is using the word “gooks” differenly from what most American troops in South Vietnam did.
There “Gooks” was a lot like “Nazis”, usually used to refer to VC or NVA.
“Dinks” was the one that was much more like the “N word” and was the racist one as it was used for Vietnamese in general.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Agreed, and your link is highly recommended to the HA community.
RushBaby on July 19, 2008 at 12:56 AM
All things should be seen exactly as they are without sentiment.
- You-know-who
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Dawnsblood
Ditto.
elduende on July 19, 2008 at 1:01 AM
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Don’t presume to speak for Bud Day, I will leave it up to him to explain what he means by the word “gook”, since I would believe that every man over there had their own definition. He says he doesn’t ever describe any Vietnamese as North Vietnamese or even now as Vietnamese, only as “gooks”. Make up your own mind as you see fit, but don’t for a second believe that you know what he means about anything having to do with the Vietnam War.
My NamVet uncles referred to their enemy as all sorts of things, they too can explain the nuance they felt about each individual term whether it be “gook”, “dink” or various others I have heard them use. Anecdotal I know, but it seems you take great pains to make an argument over everything.
Bishop on July 19, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Calling London…or Vienna…
Entelechy on July 19, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Look at this they can’t make fun of Obama(because he’s black)
and Obama himself said, “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did i mention he’s black”
————–
Now look at this on Conan O’Brien..
http://thepage.time.com/release-on-mccains-appearance-on-late-night-with-conan-obrien/
O’Brien then showed McCain the casting underway for a “made-for-TV-movie” about his search for a running mate, with side-by-side photos of the following:
“Sen. John McCain will be played by Tim Conway.
Florida Gov. Charlie Crist will be played by Bob Barker.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will be played by “Kumar” from the “Harold & Kumar” movies.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee will be played by “Gomer Pyle.”
Former Head of EBay and National Co-Chair of your campaign Meg Whitman will be played by Tom Petty.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will be played by any local weatherman.
Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman will be played by a basset hound.(Now is this a dig at Jews? not sure.. )
Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice will be played by Snoop Dogg.”(Snoop Dogg? Well… who is trying to ghettofy someone here? i guess we can now start Photoshopping Obama as a Gangsta Rapper with goldteeth.. and a 9mm, slappin’ a ho… fair game?)
Chakra Hammer on July 19, 2008 at 1:07 AM
You make me angry. We were attacked. We are fighting a war, like it or not. My nineteen year old grandson understood this and joined the battle, along with my son and they are taking the fight to the enemy. Agree or not, but this enemy will kill you without any regret. If I were fifty years younger I would re-enlist. I will not yeild. Come and take it.
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Angry fingers “Yield”
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 1:18 AM
Did you not read what I said for comprehension? Apparently not.
I said “He is using the word “gooks” differently from what most American troops in South Vietnam did.”
Where in that did I presume anything? Answer – nowhere, and very clearly so. I said that he was using it differently than we did in South Vietnam.
DIFFERENTLY!!!
You need to take a reading comprehension course.
You are the one doing that.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 1:19 AM
O/T, I just got back from Dark Knight,and
its superb,our movie theatre was sold out,
and Keith Ledger was excellent!
canopfor on July 19, 2008 at 1:20 AM
You are the one..
MB4 on July,19,2008 at 1:19AM.
MB4: Remember,my grandfathers saying,when
your marching,your not fighting,keep
your powder dry.————:) :) :)
canopfor on July 19, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Well suck it up and get over it.
Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 5 star General and 34th President of the United States of America.
May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 5 star General and 34th President of the United States of America.
Iraq did not attack us. Al Q attracted us. Most of the terrorist murderers were from Saudi Arabia, as is their ring leader. None were from Iraq and even if they were, which they weren’t, that would not justify Islamic (ROP) nation building and Koran kissing.
With a temper like yours, they might well not even take you and if they did you probably would be discharged before long.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 1:32 AM
Where in that did I presume anything? Answer – nowhere, and very clearly so. I said that he was using it differently than we did in South Vietnam.
DIFFERENTLY!!!
You need to take a reading comprehension course.
As do you it seems, as well as a course in basic manners; what compels you to attack me personally?
I’ll try again, how do you know what Bud Day thinks about anything? How do you know he uses that term “differently” than anyone else who served in Vietnam? His experience over there isn’t composed entirely of his time as a POW, and for all you know he also used the word “dink” or any other term you care to name on a regular basis.
In fact, he may have settled on the word “gook” simply as a catch-all for EVERY slang term that soldiers like him frequently uttered. For all you know he used the word “gook” from the moment he stepped off the plane in South Vietnam.
In short, you don’t know a damn thing about what Colonel Bud Day, my Green Beret uncles, John McCain, Norman Schwarzkopf or any other NamVet thought about ANY of this terminology. Speak for yourself.
Bishop on July 19, 2008 at 1:36 AM
If I were fifty years younger I would re-enlist.
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 1:10 AM
With a temper like yours, they might well not even take you and if they did you probably would be discharged before long.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 1:32 AM
Welcome to the club, Johan, I was just initiated into it myself a few posts back, not that I volunteered.
Bishop on July 19, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Scott Rasmussen says Palin would be the best pick, and he’s the most accurate pollster out there.
Damian G. on July 19, 2008 at 2:30 AM
Attack you personally? By questioning your reading comprehension after you said that I did what I did not do?
I said a very mild non confrontational, which should not have upset any normal person –
and then you go off with a very lecturing -
when I was not doing anything like that. Good Lord can’t you even read for comprehension the second time around? You are the one in need of a course in basic manners, in addition to a basic course in reading comprehension. Maybe you can get a discount if you buy both. I’m looking out for you.
There you go again.
- Ronald Reagan
I was there, in South Vietnam as I said, not in North Vietnam like Day, and the way I stated it was the way those terms were used by everyone I ever came across when I was there in South Vietnam (RVN). If everyone there talked a different language nobody would have even been able to communicate with each other.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 4:47 AM
You sound very whiny.
If you don’t want to be “initiated” then don’t lecture someone for doing what they did not even do.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 5:04 AM
Obviously I do basically agree with him.
No one every said all.
No moderate can legitimately tell another Muslim to stop doing the extremist things Mohammad himself did. Also, the Qur’an condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call moderates are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Qur’an. Moderates will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, “There may be moderates in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate.”
Islamic expert Daniel Pipes and others estimate ten percent of the Islamic world to be militant. In 1933 when the Nazi party took control of Germany it had 2 million members, comprising only three percent of Germany’s sixty-six million citizens. A tiny minority of extremists can control a vast number of moderates, making them irrelevant.
- JihadWatch
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 5:11 AM
For those of you that think that not all muslims agree with the bad muslims. Where are the good muslims in denouncing the bad ones? I don’t hear much from the community regarding suicide bombings or sending children to their death? There seems to be a deafening silence from this group!
sabbott on July 19, 2008 at 7:24 AM
As Michelle would say, I will not submit.
Zorro on July 19, 2008 at 7:55 AM
After reading the comments section on that article, I am more afraid for my country than ever. You know that commercial, I think it is insurance or something, but it goes “People are smart”? I HATE that commercial!
pannw on July 19, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Wha…? I’m pretty sure they simply pointed out what he did in front of the entire nation 30 years ago.
MadisonConservative on July 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM
[MadisonConservative on July 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM]
It’s mau-mau. But curiously, the Miami Herald apparently doesn’t think smearing is always a bad thing. It’s okay for them to do so, but they don’t think it’s right when people the Herald disagrees with do it.
Dusty on July 19, 2008 at 11:56 AM
MB4 shows an almost Obama-like lack of historical perspective. (perhaps “hysterical” would be more appropriate for many of our far a port friends.)
In January of 1946, Life Magazine – the royalty of periodicals – declared that the US was “losing the victory”.
The NY Times (I am sure everyone will be shocked) ran a full series of articles declaring that the Americans had flubbed the peace.
The Germans would not, we were told, participate in rushed elections, conflicts with former German soldiers and occupying troops were escalating, the enemy had a place in the new government, and… well – no need to continue, you just read it yesterday and for months.
Just take what you read and in many cases substitute “Germany” for “Iraq” and you will get the idea of how the elite MSM felt in 1946.
By the way, it was only in 1950 – five plus long years after the war officially ended – that the German government actual gained its legs and the Americans abdicated their role.
And all American troops came home. Oops. Guess not.
Another aside. The NY Times, the same organization that received a Pulitzer for the lies of its reporter Walter Duranty on his glorification of the Soviet Union (that they refuse to return to this day) – gave hefty praise to how efficient and progressive the Soviets were in Eastern Germany – way ahead of the Western zones.
MB4 would have felt right at home.
Germans hated them and they should leave.
maninthemiddle on July 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Iraq did not attack us. Al Q attracted us. Most of the terrorist murderers were from Saudi Arabia, as is their ring leader. None were from Iraq and even if they were, which they weren’t, that would not justify Islamic (ROP) nation building and Koran kissing.
I served my time with an Honorable discharge. Do you remember Salman Pak ? When a nation allow our enemies to train for terrorist attacks { aka Pakistan } they are our enemy. This is a world war. This is nothing new with the muslims, they have been at war with the west for years. As far as nation building and koran kissing I am with you. My anger at you was that you seem to be dispairing the young people in the Military.{ my perception, maybe wrong.}
Johan Klaus on July 19, 2008 at 1:17 PM
I wore the uniform with PRIDE, yet when I see the young men and women serving today, I feel humbled.
A reminder to y’all–ANYONE who served or serves honorably in ANY capacity deserves to be honored for their service.
irongrampa on July 19, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I have a sister-in-law, two nephews and a niece who would take living exception to that remark.
I wasn’t doing anything of the kind. Not to say that I think that they all “walk on water” though either. I never did. I saw the full gamut, from “Saint to Sinner”, when I was in the Army, just as I saw elsewhere before and have seen elsewhere after.
MB4 on July 19, 2008 at 11:10 PM