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Heart-ache: Hasselbeck reduced to tears by dopey N-word discussion

posted at 6:06 pm on July 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I too was in tears after viewing it, so excruciatingly inarticulate is our cast. Newsbusters has a transcript, but trust me, it won’t help. Hasselbeck’s point is a simple one: We all share a common culture, so in the interests of commonality, how about everyone agrees to quit dropping the N-bomb, yes? Whereupon Whoopi, seizing the opportunity for a righteous show of Absolute Moral Authority, duly pitches a fit about how we’re different and that’s the way it is and Elisabeth simply doesn’t understand the “frustration” over the “huge problems that still affect us,” even though, please note, in calling for everyone to stop using the word she’s making the same argument as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Consider this a punctuation mark on a week that began with that Obama New Yorker cover, the intent of which was clear but declared to be beside the point because it was unhelpful to the left’s agenda. Whoopi and Sherri Shepherd have a plausible intentionalist defense of their position available to them here — when blacks use the N-word the intent will almost always be innocent whereas it’s much more ambiguous when coming from whites — but that ends up being exploded when Walters asks Shepherd what would happen if she said the word, presumably in a friendly/jokey manner to Sherri. Answer: “I don’t want to hear it come out of your mouth.” So much for intentions.

Anyway. Hasselbeck ends up in tears, Whoopi ends up basically arguing that the gulf between the races is too great for them ever to understand each other (or at least for whites to understand blacks), and they end up quickly moving on to talk about something else. Is this the sort of great national conversation Barry O had in mind?


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The bottom line on this is: Until Black Americans stop using the N-word, then people like Jesse and Al and every other phoney baloney “Leader” of the community, needs to shut the heck up about it.

The supposed double-standard of Blacks being “permitted” to say the N-word, with non-Blacks being prohibited is simple Horsey-Dung. If you want everyone else (who for whatever reason want to say the word) to stop saying it, the everyone needs to stop saying in. While Fitty-cent, and grand-master-BS, and Jesse the “J” keep saying N****R, then they have no room to complain if ANYONE else says it who chooses to.

seanrobins on July 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM

I don’t think that there should be a property test for voting (of course!)

That’s how this nation was founded. That’s how Washington got elected. . . only property owners could vote because they were the only ones who paid taxes. We should eliminate the income tax and go back to property owners only voting.

Voting wasn’t intended to be a ‘right’. . . it was intended to be a privilege. Matters of the state were not something that everyone needed to concern themselves with. . . they were elected to represent us.

ThackerAgency on July 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Whoopi ends up basically arguing that the gulf between the races is too great for them ever to understand each other

I will NEVER understand Whoopsie, and that God for that!

seanrobins on July 17, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Is this show worth the carbon footprint it creates???
How many families will be denied energy to heat their homes in a future Democrat Marxist state to keep these airheads whining!

JellyToast on July 17, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Seixon on July 17, 2008 at 7:24 PM

Heh.

doubleplusundead on July 17, 2008 at 7:32 PM

how this nation was founded. That’s how Washington got elected. . . only property owners could vote because they were the only ones who paid taxes. We should eliminate the income tax and go back to property owners only voting.

Voting wasn’t intended to be a ‘right’. . . it was intended to be a privilege. Matters of the state were not something that everyone needed to concern themselves with. . . they were elected to represent us

I know that, of course. But we changed the Constitution to change this, just as we changed it for people to directly vote for their Senators. My reason for the “of course” was to elilminate that example from what I was talking about.

Anyway… thanks prof!

seanrobins on July 17, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Is this show worth the carbon footprint it creates???

Hey, I like that….

How ’bout this for a new phrase:

“(He/she/its) a waste of carbon footprint…”

seanrobins on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM

That Lizbeth is one sensitive Honky.

GreenBlade on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM

If this is the case, Whoopi, then should we try working for equal rights between races, or just throw it all away? It seems to me that following your worldview, there should be no need, because we will never actually be together.
Somewhere, there has to be agive and take. I’m sorry for what your Mom went through, but you can either choose to remain bitter — and divided, as you clearly are — or unite and work together.
If you maintain your stubbornness, then I’ll thank you, ahead of time, from ever calling me a racist on this…. after all, we’re in two separate worlds

ToddonCapeCod on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM

I wasn’t trying to teach. . . but I would like for voting to become a privilege again rather than a ‘right’. We are basically in agreement as you mentioned some sort of education test for voters. When voting became a right, every vote was diluted.

ThackerAgency on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM

but I would like for voting to become a privilege again

It never was a privilege.

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a nice lady, but definitely out of place on this show. Could anyone persuade Laura Ingraham or Michelle Malkin to replace Hasselbeck and put these lefties in their places?

Steve Z on July 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM

We don’t live in the same world because 40 years ago her mom couldn’t vote? There’s nothing more lame than someone who wants to argue with you, but whose whole argument boils down to “you’ll never understand me.” I’ll file this under: no longer care.

Spolitics on July 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Is this show worth the carbon footprint it creates???

Hey, I like that….

How ’bout this for a new phrase:

“(He/she/its) a waste of carbon footprint…”

seanrobins on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM

I think you guys are on to something there… Mind if I use that one? I like it.

Claypigeon on July 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM

misterpeasea on July 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM

WRT intent, exactly. I’ve had black friends that have given me permission to say “nigger” around them – or in reference to them – and they haven’t cared.

Ryan Gandy on July 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM

What a bunch of crap!! I am SO sick of the Whoopis of this world, Spike Lee and Kayne Wests—just to mention a few. Who made Whoopi the know it all that she thinks she is? She has made it with the help of others like herself into separate worlds. Face it Whoopi, you want to play victim your whole life, go ahead. That video made me sick inside. My anscestors were at the Holocaust? Do I speak like I’m from a “different world”–Keep crying racism, Whoopi, you are full of it, just like Spike Lee and we are sick of hearing it. You replaced Rosie, what a joke. I never watch the show, but this stuff pushes such a button in me. Whoopi is given the last word and speaks down to Elizabeth, I would love to see some one knock her off her high horse. This is one world but people like Whoopi want to keep at two because they are comfortable there. Whoopi is dead wrong.

Conservatives R Us on July 17, 2008 at 7:47 PM

I just don’t understand…

d1carter on July 17, 2008 at 7:51 PM

F*ck her. She ain’t no freakin’ nun.

Dan Collins on July 17, 2008 at 7:52 PM

Hasselbeck’s point is a simple one: We all share a common culture

Which needless to say is Hesselbeck’s culture.

freevillage on July 17, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Could anyone persuade Laura Ingraham or Michelle Malkin to replace Hasselbeck and put these lefties in their places?

Hear, Hear!

My babe, Laura would eat their lunch. (Ok, maybe not the fat one lunch but she’d take a few big bites and eat more later)

MM scares me sometimes and I agree with her. They all would be woefully out-gunned if MM was on The View “Afternoon-yak”.

Claypigeon on July 17, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Is this the sort of great national conversation Barry O had in mind?

Crap. Not only did we lose Bryan. We’re losing Allah as well. You mean it’s in the realm of even general and most indirect responsibilities of a presidential candidate what’s happening on day time shows.

freevillage on July 17, 2008 at 7:56 PM

I like EH enough that it makes is painful to watch stuff like this clip. She is a kind person and an idealist – which makes her absolutely charming. She reminds me of that old ‘Love can build a bridge’ song.

But the reality is that nobody wants to build a bridge if it takes away their identity.

Spirit of 1776 on July 17, 2008 at 7:57 PM

That’s how this nation was founded. That’s how Washington got elected. . . only property owners could vote because they were the only ones who paid taxes. We should eliminate the income tax and go back to property owners only voting.

Voting wasn’t intended to be a ‘right’. . . it was intended to be a privilege. Matters of the state were not something that everyone needed to concern themselves with. . . they were elected to represent us.

ThackerAgency on July 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Massachusetts changed that policy when Adams submitted his (their) Constitution for approval. They went to universal suffrage, and he said if it were work anywhere, it will work in America. It’s American.

Spirit of 1776 on July 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM

I think this is a generational thing. Whoppie and her age group still harbor all this crap, and really… what do I know? Maybe she had to put up with a lot of racist garbage. God knows anyone who ever has been on XBox live has heard the N word enough even now.

All I know is I dont give a damn about the N word because of “conversations” like this where I am made to feel like I need to watch my ass cause I’m a white boy. But I can be called white boy and black people can and do drop the N bomb as a matter of course. Screw that.

Dash on July 17, 2008 at 8:03 PM

I have the same sense of revulsion/gag reflex turning this show on as i do when I walk out to the garage on Super Bowl Sunday to grab the ice chest, last used over the summer, only to discover half a dozen egg-salad sandos still tucked up in there.

Not.at.all.pleasant.I.assure.you.

Mike D. on July 17, 2008 at 8:04 PM

From a linguistic point of view, words disappear from languages all the time due to gradual disuse. I can think of words, we used as teenagers that have disappeared. This is what needs to happen to all racial slurs, but everyone has to cooperate. It seems to me that almost all whites have done their part over the past decades, but many blacks have not. It is blacks themselves who are perpetuating the N word. They are trivializing it among themselves and damning the occasional non-black who uses it.

gary fouse
fousesquawk

gary fouse on July 17, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Oh no! Call the speech police. We can’t have “those people” saying “that word” again.

Give me a break. We should make a deal with Obama, you can have 4 years if you permanently drop affirmative action and any more use of “that word”. But realistically it’s not going to happen.

Static on July 17, 2008 at 8:09 PM

It seems to me that almost all whites have done their part over the past decades, but many blacks have not.

I agree. I think we can all unite behind this purely anti-racist message:

It’s all the blacks’ fault!

freevillage on July 17, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Heart-ache: Hasselbeck reduced to tears by dopey N-word discussion

F*ck her. She ain’t no freakin’ nun.

Dan Collins
on July 17, 2008 at 7:52 PM

…. Wow.

wise_man on July 17, 2008 at 8:11 PM

I agree. I think we can all unite behind this purely anti-racist message:

It’s all the blacks’ fault!

freevillage on July 17, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Heh. aka “feel guiltier!” Clean your plate, some kid somewhere doesn’t get to eat [fill in the blank] tonight!

Spirit of 1776 on July 17, 2008 at 8:13 PM

Why is it,that certain groups of African Americans think
It’s still the early 1900’s,when Obama came on the scene,
I really believed that,yes,an African American,a Liberal
is going to have a great change in the American political
system!

When Obama came on the scene,and talked,I really believed
that Obama is the new Liberal Party,out with the old.
Finally,from the Obama viewpoint,America was a nation of
one!

Then,after awhile,pardon the phrase,I was bamboozled,Obama
became no different that Jesse Jackson,and Al Sharpton!

Then,as more time went by,Obama became worse than the two
racial agitators,and believe me,I was very disappointed!

So far,this election,by the Left,they have made this
presidential race all about colour,and as I have said
over and over,the REPUBLICANS are not to blame!

Republicans have taken the highroad,and thank God for that!

The Liberal Democratic Party has been playing this white/
against black,ever since Obama threw his hat into the
ring!

And the Liberal party is stuck in the 1800’s,the civil right struggle,here are a few examples of late!

Bill Clinton’s besmirchment of the African American with
the infamous “Fairy Tale” comment!

Jesse Jackson,using the disgusting and sickening word,the
“N” WORD!

Elezibeth,has every right to be upset,Elizabeth is in the
21st century,and Whoopie is stuck in the 1900’s!

And,all of a sudden,within the last year,certain Lefty groups,African Americans,like Rev.Wright are acting as
if the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is SOUTH AFRICA,you bet
that Elizabeth is pissed off!

Elizabeth see’s America as one,colourless!

Whoopee see’s America,as John Edwards,victimized,and the
“OTHER AMERICA”!

Its the Liberal party who have stirred the pot on this one,
and again just look at the New Yorker’s picture of Michelle
Obama as a terrorist!

canopfor on July 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a nice lady, but definitely out of place on this show. Could anyone persuade Laura Ingraham or Michelle Malkin to replace Hasselbeck and put these lefties in their places?

Steve Z on July 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM

No matter who is in that show, it’s one conservative against how many Leftists? Their strength is not in the message, but in numbers – at least, the number of people stupid enough to believe all that Marx-inspired B.S.

newton on July 17, 2008 at 8:17 PM

ooops,civil right struggle was not the 1800’s,
but rather the 40’s,50’s and 60’s!

Sorry about my little history srewup!

canopfor on July 17, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Making fun of yourself is hard for someone else to do.

Niggaz with attitudes is self-reflective and jokey.

For someone outside the group to try to use their lingo is not only gauche, but old-timey racist.

Let Niggaz use the word for fun. They earned it.

Jackie Mason can say “Two Jews walk into a bar…” and it’s comical.

Mahmoud Achmadinejad says it, and it loses its wry sparkle.

Let guilty honkies get their own words and stop worrying about the Great Buggaboo of the “N-Word”.

It’s almost never used anymore, anyway, except by black comedians and schmucks like Jesse Jacksonofabitch.

(Lenny Bruce’s old stand-up routine about Lyndon Johnson trying to pronounce “nigaro” is worth a listen.)

profitsbeard on July 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM

That was probably the most worthless video clip I’ve seen in some time. Colossal horses&%t all around.

Tim Zank on July 17, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Hasselbeck’s point is a simple one: We all share a common culture.

Which needless to say is Hesselbeck’s culture

Actually, yes, we do share America and an American culture, so Hesselbeck’s culture is Whoopi’s culture. Who’s drawing the racial line in the sand – Whoopi or Hesselbeck? Who is declaring an endless separation for all time? Who is putting up the wall?

When will that wall come down? Never, if the Reverend Wrights of the world retain an audience.

inmypajamas on July 17, 2008 at 8:25 PM

If you can’t reason with Whoopi Goldberg, who can you reason with?

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Whoopie, or whatever her name is…. is merely an idiot and stereotypes her race with her self righteous blather.

ultracon on July 17, 2008 at 8:31 PM

You mean it’s in the realm of even general and most indirect responsibilities of a presidential candidate what’s happening on day time shows.

freevillage on July 17, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Each individual word is English, but somehow they do not form an actual sentence.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Sitting on my little perch,up in the Great White North,
I see African American’s and the do-gooder Liberals go
nuclear,over the disgusting “N” word!

And boy oh boy,the Left just loves jumping on anyone
who breaths it,and says it!

But when its Jesse Jackson,its A-okay,a non starter,

however,

If your not African America,all hell breaks loose,
wall to wall MSM coverage,the demanding of resignation,
lawsuits,and a solid week of orgasimic media arruption
on CNN,and Hardball!

BTW:African American’s,I mean the Liberal left!

canopfor on July 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM

FYI:

Before Obama came on the scene,Whoopee was sane,
at least she had an open mind,as Obama’s Hope
and Change “UNITY” train started to roll,now
Whoopee is pounding her fists together!

With Whoopee,there is no longer,the appearance
of trying to get along!

canopfor on July 17, 2008 at 8:41 PM

Jackie Mason can say “Two Jews walk into a bar…” and it’s comical.

Mahmoud Achmadinejad says it, and it loses its wry sparkle.

I tried to make this point yesterday, but it wasn’t sinking in with some.

stop worrying about the Great Buggaboo of the “N-Word”.

profitsbeard on July 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Dude, I’m puzzled as to why anyone wants to use the word. Just because some idiot on TV says that you can’t? Just because rappers (idiots) use it with impugnity? No, it’s not fair that they can get away with it and that (most) white people can’t.

The thing I find most puzzling in these n-word threads is the childish whining about fairness among conservatives. I thought that the fact that life is manifestly unfair was an unofficial conservative axiom.

Guess that’s only if the individual making the observation about life’s unfairness is the one with the advantage in a given situation.

Serious question for my white friends and acquaintances: how has not being able to use the n-word face-to-face with a black person without consequence (when they can) going to made your life worse?

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Serious question for my white friends and acquaintances: how has not being able to use the n-word face-to-face with a black person without consequence (when they can) going to made your life worse?

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Pointing out hypocrisy is not whining about fairness.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM

baldilocks at 8:47 PM-

Right on.

profitsbeard on July 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Pointing out hypocrisy is not whining about fairness.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM

You’re right. Good thing I didn’t say that those pointing out hypocrisy and those whining about fairness were the same persons.

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:53 PM

You hate me…you really hate me.

ronsfi on July 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM

Daytime television really sucks ass, doesn’t it? Not sure why I qualified it with “daytime”.

jaime on July 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM

Pointing out hypocrisy is not whining about fairness.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Oh and were black people asking to be able to hurl racial epithets at non-black people without consequence, but whining when white people used the n-word, that would be a clear-cut case of hypocrisy. This is fuzzier; I’m not saying that you’re wrong, just saying that it’s fuzzier.

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM

BTW, Allahpundit, I don’t think most folks around here have read Professor Goldstein’s excellent treatises on intentionalism.

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Whoopie, or whatever her name is…. is merely an idiot and stereotypes her race with her self righteous blather.

ultracon on July 17, 2008 at 8:31 PM

And yet Whoopie has married and lived with nothing but white men. Obviously, she has managed to bridge that gap.

Glynn on July 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM

This is slightly off-topic, but it’s bugging me. I live in a townhouse with not-so-thick walls. My neighbors listen to rap music, with their speakers mounted to our common wall. Right now, I’m listening to their music (and so are my kids). I’ve counted the n-word at least 2 dozen times over the last 10-15 minutes of music (and other non-family-friendly words). I don’t confront them about it because they already think I’m racist for referring to my all-black cat as ’stupid black cat’ (in my front yard as they were outside).

I think my neighbors are a part of this larger problem, but I also think I’m a part of the problem by refusing to confront them (about the offensive music).

Anna on July 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Serious question for my white friends and acquaintances: how has not being able to use the n-word face-to-face with a black person without consequence (when they can) going to made your life worse?

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:47 PM

I would never use it, have never used it, will never use it. I abhor the word and place it on the top 5 words I hate the most.

Glynn on July 17, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Soooo, what Whoopee is saying is… that Ni**as of today have an emotional/psychological issue that can be alleviated by using the N-word “the way we wanna use it”.
Are they lobbying for Govt’ subsidized psychotherapy? Because methinks that argument is crazy.

JoeAvg on July 17, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Good thing I didn’t say that those pointing out hypocrisy and those whining about fairness were the same persons.

I missed that part, then.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Oh and were black people asking to be able to hurl racial epithets at non-black people without consequence…

The point is, some already feel as though they have a right to…without consequence. That is, unless the offense happens to be caught on tape.

Then it’s apologies all around.

The Ugly American on July 17, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Soooo, what Whoopee is saying is… that Ni**as of today have an emotional/psychological issue that can be alleviated by using the N-word “the way we wanna use it”.

One more thing, then I’m done: as has been mentioned up-thread, several years ago Whoopi and her married boyfriend, Ted Danson of Cheers fame, did a Friar’s Club routine in blackface resulting in a resounding WTF from all–black, white, whatever–who saw it or heard about it. With that in mind, can we keep in mind what kind of judgment we’re dealing with here? And Whoopi is probably holding the most IQ points on that show. (Yeah, I know.)

Later. I’m all n-worded out.

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM

And yet Whoopie has married and lived with nothing but white men. Obviously, she has managed to bridge that gap.

Glynn on July 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Maybe she’s great in the rack???

DfDeportation on July 17, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Hasselbeck should leave this show immediately; the remaining women on this show are blatant racists – all of them – if they think they can use racist words but whites somehow can’t! Reverend Jesse Jackson threatened a presidential candidate with castration and used racial stereotypes and they don’t care. That makes them the worst kind of racists; those that tolerate racists based on the color of their skin. They are giving Jesse Jackson a pass but condemning all whites! Retitle “The View” as “The Racists” and it would be closer to the truth!

IntheNet on July 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Ignorant, racist, arrogant, and Elitist Liberal blacks are all the same. Just look at Michelle and B. Hussein Obama.

DfDeportation on July 17, 2008 at 9:28 PM

blah, blah, black sheep have you any

maverick muse on July 17, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Can we ‘N-bomb’ instead of ‘N-word?’

tlynch001 on July 17, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Whoopi had that “intelligent listener” role on Star Trek, Next Generation…hahahahahaha, ha.

maverick muse on July 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM

In the interest of racial peace and tranquility, I hereby call for a ban on the phrase’No Shizzle, My Nizzle” and all shiznicks-like references.

As we all know, Shizzle is slang for a word describing excrement, and Nizzle a substitute for the N-word. Thus, No Shizzle, My Nizzle accurately translates to No Excrement, My N-Word. Many uncool white people do not know this and use this phrase without realizing their mistake. To my knoweldge, African Americans have failed to point out the offensive nature of this phrase. God help us when the No Shizzle forces realize that this phrase is reaking havoc all across our nation.

So no more nizzle for you, my shizzle. Now don’t even get me started on the word ‘niggardly’. Damn thing should be outlawed!

DrW on July 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM

If the “n word” is acceptable usage amoung Black People, how come Obama doesn’t use it in public, when addressing a Black audience?

franksalterego on July 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Whoopi had that “intelligent listener” role on Star Trek, Next Generation…hahahahahaha, ha.

maverick muse on July 17, 2008 at 9:48 PM

Yes, but she made a creditable alien.

Maquis on July 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM

Oh and were black people asking to be able to hurl racial epithets at non-black people without consequence, but whining when white people used the n-word, that would be a clear-cut case of hypocrisy.

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Er. Are you saying this is not how it is? Seems to me like that’s exactly what the situation is.

misterpeasea on July 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM

I never understood why they put a 2nd black on the panel before putting on one Hispanic. That’s not balance; that is Barbara’s prejudices made manifest. And they could still have 4 liberals ganging up on one little conservative.

snaggletoothie on July 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM

Question: 93% of all American men would sleep with which host on The View?
A:?

carbon_footprint on July 17, 2008 at 10:00 PM

And Whoopi is probably holding the most IQ points on that show.

No doubt. Which makes her comments all the more dissappointing.

I really thought she’d be more dispassionate about racial issues.

The Ugly American on July 17, 2008 at 10:05 PM

And yet Whoopie has married and lived with nothing but white men. Obviously, she has managed to bridge that gap.

Glynn on July 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Maybe she’s great in the rack???

DfDeportation on July 17, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Moving right along.

Glynn on July 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

That’s how this nation was founded. That’s how Washington got elected. . . only property owners could vote because they were the only ones who paid taxes. We should eliminate the income tax and go back to property owners only voting.

Voting wasn’t intended to be a ‘right’. . . it was intended to be a privilege. Matters of the state were not something that everyone needed to concern themselves with. . . they were elected to represent us.

ThackerAgency on July 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM

A most excellent thought, but I fear I’m a moderate who only wants rid of the 26th Amendment. It’s just my milquetoast RINO temperament.

thuja on July 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

No doubt. Which makes her comments all the more dissappointing.

I really thought she’d be more dispassionate about racial issues.

The Ugly American on July 17, 2008 at 10:05 PM

So did I.

Glynn on July 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

ToddonCapeCod on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM

then I’ll thank you, ahead of time, from ever calling me a racist on this…. after all, we’re in two separate worlds

That’s it. That’s the equivalent of calling a black person a n*gger, (unfairly) calling a white person a racist. Which happens all the time. A friend of mine had belonged to a club for many years, was very involved in it, was often an officer. One day another member called him a racist. He just up and left. Never came back. Why are people so eager to call racist? I mean, who anymore really promotes the racist idea that skin color is some measure of someone’s worth. I mean, besides those like Whoopie and Sherry and Jesse Jackson, to whom apparently it means a great deal. If you can willy-nilly call white people racist on the flimsiest of evidence, then why is the term n*gger less appropriate in a similar context. Is the conflict really so much about white racism as black racism? I wonder.

Paul-Cincy on July 17, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Whoopi looks like she just crawled off a steam grate behind Mass General Hospital after a long hard night hittin the glass pipe.

She has that unique ability to look filthy even as she steps out of the delousing stall at St Vincent DePaul’s.

Alden Pyle on July 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Through all that mind-bogglingly altruistic bravo sierra that Whoopi was shoveling, the only thing that was on my mind was this:

WHY DIDN’T THEY CENSOR THE WORD “POLLOCK”?

MadisonConservative on July 17, 2008 at 10:25 PM

I wonder if Bill Cosby would agree with Whoopie?

MsUnderestimated on July 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Hasselbeck should leave this show immediately; the remaining women on this show are blatant racists – all of them - if they think they can use racist words but whites somehow can’t! Reverend Jesse Jackson threatened a presidential candidate with castration and used racial stereotypes and they don’t care. That makes them the worst kind of racists; those that tolerate racists based on the color of their skin. They are giving Jesse Jackson a pass but condemning all whites! Retitle “The View” as “The Racists” and it would be closer to the truth!

IntheNet on July 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Hasselbeck should leave, and be punished monetarily? but the racists should be allowed to stay on TV and spew hate and venom?.. how about the Racists should be fired? :}

I’m sure Hasselbeck only stays for the cash, I know that i wouldn’t want to go onto that show and talk with those libs all day long and i’m not just talking about whoopie the others drive me nuts too.

Chakra Hammer on July 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Through all that mind-bogglingly altruistic bravo sierra that Whoopi was shoveling, the only thing that was on my mind was this:

WHY DIDN’T THEY CENSOR THE WORD “POLLOCK”?

MadisonConservative on July 17, 2008 at 10:25 PM

things that make you go Hmmmmm..

Chakra Hammer on July 17, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Hasselbeck should leave this show immediately; the remaining women on this show are blatant racists – all of them

Whoopi Goldberg – Black Racist… Towards Blacks!

freevillage on July 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Anyone else ever notice that Joy Behar always looks at Elizabeth with complete contempt and disdain? She always looks like she’s been sucking on lemons. I would look like that, too, if I were as bitter as Joy. What a stupid beyotch.

MsUnderestimated on July 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Anyone else ever notice that Joy Behar always looks at Elizabeth with complete contempt and disdain?

No, but then I can’t bring myself to look at her directly.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Whoopie has the offical standard for the “N” word.

She can testify in every court case that needs an
expert on who, when, and where the “N” word can be used.

Life in America. Isn’t it grand.

Watch out Jesse, Whoopie could be on yer trail. LOLOL

Texyank on July 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM

No, but then I can’t bring myself to look at her directly.

Jim Treacher on July 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM

LMAO!

Chakra Hammer on July 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Hasselbeck should leave, and be punished monetarily? like Zoot, Dingo and the eight-score young blonds and brunettes, all between 16 and 19 1/2 in the Castle Anthrax!

Chakra Hammer on July 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Fixed it for ya.

Alden Pyle on July 17, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Anyone else ever notice that Joy Behar always looks at Elizabeth with complete contempt and disdain?

MsUnderestimated on July 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Elizabeth’s youth and beauty eat away at Joy every day and each time she sees her it just reminds her that she is an unnattractive,old, dried up yenta with a 2 pack a day voice, a harsh Long Island accent, and will be resorting to behavior like Rosie O’Donnel on the Nip Tuck episode in order to get some satisfaction.

Alden Pyle on July 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM

Whoopi’s argument is BS because I know for a fact that taking God’s name in vain and adding an explicative to it is just as offensive, if not more, to people of faith. Yet Whoopi wouldn’t afford THEM their right to be protected from to ‘atrocity’. And that women are very offended by the loose use of terms like b!tch and ho to describe a woman in general. The lexicon of Blacks has been presented BY BLACKS as cool and something for non-Blacks to immitate. The Black community loves to see Whites trying to talk the talk, which often includes the N-word, which has now been adjusted to include Whites with the coinage of the word wiggah.

People can’t HAVE their cake and EAT it too. But the Left sure does try, don’t they…?

Rugged Individual on July 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Serious question for my white friends and acquaintances: how has not being able to use the n-word face-to-face with a black person without consequence (when they can) going to made your life worse?

baldilocks on July 17, 2008 at 8:47 PM

It won’t.

Have never used the word, never plan to and frankly can’t fathom why anyone, including black people, would want to. But whatevah. I understand Whoopi’s point about blacks “taking the word back” but I find her claim that she basically wants to take away the word from the racists and then move on, then when Elizabeth expressed a desire about 10 seconds later to have the culture do exactly that, retreating into “we’ll always be in a different world” rawtha disingenuous to say the least. Stinks of victicrattiness in my view.

I too wondered right away why they didn’t censor “Polack” (sic?). (I think Pollock’s the name of a painter.) Racial slurs against some people are OK to hear apparently.

inviolet on July 17, 2008 at 11:14 PM

Racial slurs Ethnic slurs

inviolet on July 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM

For someone who was initially brought on the show to be the pretty bubble-headed blond, semi-intelligent conservative voice, Hasselback presents more food for thought than all the other fools put together.

God Bless her.

Skidd on July 17, 2008 at 11:36 PM

The only time I’ve ever agreed with baldilocks.

Nonfactor on July 17, 2008 at 11:37 PM

Question: 93% of all American men would sleep with which host on The View?

carbon_footprint on July 17, 2008 at 10:00 PM

93?!

A: the yummy blond, and you have gravely insulted the other 7%, who admire her outfits.

Jaibones on July 18, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Was there ever better proof that the Left cannot exist without its double standards?

Meanwhile, you can just feel the others seething with jealousy over Hasselbeck’s beauty, as well as her brains.

Halley on July 18, 2008 at 12:08 AM

I don’t understand the use of the N-word by black people at all. It perpetuates the very circumstances that they claim to appose. I don’t deny that there is still racism in America but in the modern world a significant portion of it is probably directed against black people who live in the past like Whoopi and continue to hold ill will for white people who’ve never been a part of the problem, and based only on the color of their skin. It only causes resentment and exacerbates divisions. Why would a white small business owner want to hire somebody like that? I’d be willing to bet that most remnants of racism in America are in actuality directed at the attitudes of certain black people rather than the color of their skin. Drop the negative attitude and act like unhyphenated American’s and before long most of the remaining “racism” will dissipate into oblivion.

FloatingRock on July 18, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Why was Ted Danson allowed to say the n word multiple times, and tell racist jokes in the roast for Whoopi Goldberg, which Whoopi defended him for?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n26_v84/ai_14488564

jayj on July 18, 2008 at 12:14 AM

“Whoopi and Sherri Shepherd have a plausible intentionalist (is that a word?) defense of their position available to them here — when blacks use the N-word the intent will almost always be innocent (really?) whereas it’s much more ambiguous when coming from whites…”
Uh, excuse me but according to Maya Angeloooo, “words are things” and no matter who uses the word it can be construed as abusive, at least. Simple hypocrisy comes into play here as well.
Whoopi is a racist bully and it’s sad, no tragic, that we can’t just be Americans first rather than thrusting skin color–and slavery–to the fore.
It gets mighty frustrating when the ‘everybody’ must be PC.

Christine on July 18, 2008 at 12:22 AM

Please delete ‘the’ before ‘everybody’. Tanx.

Christine on July 18, 2008 at 12:23 AM

Whoopi ends up basically arguing that the gulf between the races is too great for them ever to understand each other

Well, then screw it.

If that’s the case Whoopi can stick it you know where. If it’s too great a gulf there is absolutely no point in making any damned effort to bridge it.

I am sick to death of rich minority idiots whining about the “struggle.”

Enough.

drjohn on July 18, 2008 at 12:24 AM

That clip made me physically ill.
I’d bet that Bill Cosby doesn’t use that word, even in ‘the privacy of his own home’ and I’m sure millions of black Americans don’t either…It really does keep us stuck in that racist place.
Once i remembered what Whoppie Cushion did at the 2004 fund raiser for John Kerry, I remember that she is a vile creature.
Seeing and hearing her ‘lay down the law’ to Elizabeth just re-established that fact. There must be a better word than condescension.
It’s a good thing that karma is real. She’ll reap what she sows, eventually.

Christine on July 18, 2008 at 12:34 AM

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