UN’s highest court tells Texas not to execute foreign nationals
posted at 2:25 pm on July 16, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No, Texas doesn’t have to obey. Not yet.
The U.N.’s highest court ordered U.S. authorities today to do everything possible to halt the executions of five Mexicans in Texas until their cases are reviewed…
The World Court told U.S. authorities in 2004 to review the cases of 51 Mexicans sentenced to death by state courts after finding they had been denied the right to seek help from consular officials.
The World Court has no enforcement powers but President Bush issued a directive to the Texas courts to abide by the 2004 ruling.
Yes indeed, Bush intervened on behalf of the convicts, going so far as to issue an executive memorandum demanding that Texas follow the World Court’s decision per America’s obligations under the Vienna Convention on consular relations. (The defendants’ complaint is that they were never informed of their international Miranda right to contact their local consulate for help.) Whether that was a typical knee-jerk Bush reaction in wanting to expand executive power or a typical knee-jerk Bush reaction in wanting to make the Mexican government happy, I’m not sure. The Supreme Court found the memorandum unconstitutional earlier this year in Medellin v. Texas — not because state courts can’t be made to follow rulings by international tribunals but because Congress hasn’t yet passed any specific federal statute to make the Vienna Convention binding on them. Once they do, then per the Constitution’s treaty and supremacy clauses, presumably everything’s jake. Worth noting: It was the five conservatives who stopped Bush in this case, with Stevens concurring in the judgment. Breyer, Ginsburg, and Souter not only would have read the Vienna Convention to be “self-executing,” i.e. applicable to the states without any action needed from Congress, they hinted that Bush should have more leeway to intervene at the state level in foreign affairs matters so long as he’s not acting against Congress’s will. Funny how notions of executive power change, on both sides, when they contradict the desired result. Oh well.
Here’s the actual World Court ruling. Held: “The United States of America shall take all measures necessary to ensure that Messrs. José Ernesto Medellín Rojas, César Roberto Fierro Reyna, Rubén Ramírez Cárdenas, Humberto Leal García, and Roberto Moreno Ramos are not executed pending judgment on the Request for interpretation submitted by the United Mexican States, unless and until these five Mexican nationals receive review and reconsideration consistent with paragraphs 138 to 141 of the Court’s Judgment delivered on 31 March 2004 in the case concerning Avena and Other Mexican Nationals (Mexico v. United States of America)…” Read the full AP story linked up top and you’ll find a clever argument within from the State Department’s lawyer, namely, that because the U.S. government agrees with the Mexican government in this case, there’s no international dispute cognizable by the court’s jurisdiction. It’s Texas that disagrees with Mexico, not Bush — a brilliant federalist stroke, which naturally enough failed. Read this post on Medellin too by Ilya Somin at Volokh’s site wondering why Americans should follow the rulings of a court partly comprised of judges from totalitarian countries. Exit question: If our popularly elected Democratic Congress votes to follow enable them, isn’t that all the legitimacy they need?
Update: Almost forgot to mention, the crime here was the gang rape and murder of two teenaged girls. Which brings me to a follow-up question: If Pelosi and company did start outsourcing criminal sentences from juries to international courts, how much could it hurt their approval rating? (Answer: Not much!)
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who needs elected officials in DC when we have the world courts? I recommend you read Revelations. Though I am against capital punishment, I am more against allowing other countries to decide what we can and cannot do.
ThackerAgency on July 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM
The ‘World Court’ always likes to puff its chest up and take advantage of any opportunity to affect the pretension of integrity whenever the target nation is the USA.
It’s almost as if they regard us as a gutless soft touch.
Which we are.
This must change.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM
So if Congress votes to enable them, what of our Constitution and Supreme Court? Our court would agree that the death penalty is allowed for murders, but what about the international court? They would have supremacy?
If Congress does so, can you hear that drum beat in the background? Sounds like a revolution.
The World Court shall shut the hell up.
amerpundit on July 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Need I say more?
lorien1973 on July 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM
If we give in to this, we are no longer a sovereign nation.
heldmyw on July 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Texas to U.N., over
Come in U.N., over
Nuts!, over
Texas, out.
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Medellin is one of the most hated death row inmates around. There will be much rejoicing in Houston, the rest of the country, and in some parts, internationally.
Blake on July 16, 2008 at 2:33 PM
The Constitution is what allows this per the Supremacy Clause. Treaties have the force of federal law. Don’t like it? Don’t elect Democrats.
Allahpundit on July 16, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Our government is supposed to be bound by the Constitution, wherein there lies no authorization to accede to the demands of foreign law.
Most other nations simply don’t get this. Try talking to a brit about ‘gun control’ efforts in the UN, and they are totally bewildered at the concept that the POTUS has no authority to ratify international treaties that bind Americans in direct violation of the Constitution.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I’m shocked that 3 SCOTUS Judges would actually vote to undermine US sovereignty, arguing that individual states should submit to international law. Shocked!
/sarc
CultureWar on July 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM
The World Court can kiss my lilly white Texas ass!
Pulchritudinous Patriot on July 16, 2008 at 2:37 PM
I’m thinkin’ they’re gonna get “fast tracked”.
TBinSTL on July 16, 2008 at 2:37 PM
The families of these two girls raped and killed have been waiting years for justice from these illegals. I was happy to see the SC actually left this to TX juries, not any court where ever in the world. I doubt these guys will be executed, Perry will probably see they don’t.
L
letget on July 16, 2008 at 2:38 PM
If the United States forced this ruling on Texas there would be 49 States by November. I know….that is just hyperbole, right? Well, the U.S. can always call the bluff.
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Isn’t it time for the U.N. to move someplace else? I hear Iran is nice this time of year.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 2:39 PM
I’ve heard that if you have a World Court ruling in your favor and a dollar you can get a cup of coffee at Denny’s.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM
I think you have this all wrong. What are you thinking?
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Excellent advice for conservatives to listen to. Hopefully this november is no exception.
wise_man on July 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM
…and Texas tells the UN where to shove it.
Think_b4_speaking on July 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM
lol
Their opinion is worth that much?
I thought about marketing a reel of sequential, detachable, fecal sanitation blotters, made entirely of ‘World Court’ opinions.
Turns out they’re already too full of crap to be effective.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I’d venture to say that most Americans would tell the World Court to go pound sand if they could. Whether or not state courts should be bound to the Vienna Convention sounds like a viable question for the candidates.
amerpundit on July 16, 2008 at 2:44 PM
In a related news development Texans tell UN’s highest court to get bent.
MB4 on July 16, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Yeah, that’s high on the agenda; keeping Mexico happy. We sure wouldn’t want to offend Mexican murderers or other criminals, illegals who are draining our medical and state systems and Mexicans in general who flout our laws, invade our country and then scream about the US changing its laws to suit Mexicans. Gee, I would hate to consider the US laws and US citizens desires first. We only belong in the US.
katieanne on July 16, 2008 at 2:45 PM
What did the World Court have to say about UN representatives raping 13 year old girls in Africa?
STFU and clean your own house. It stinks of corruption.
fogw on July 16, 2008 at 2:45 PM
I already came up with what the Texas response should be.
michaelo on July 16, 2008 at 2:47 PM
One would hope that the police could do their jobs properly so murderer rapists don’t ever have the chance to get off on a technicality.
That said, although I am anti-death penalty, the murderer rapists chose to commit their murder and rape in a place with the death penalty, so boo fu**ing hoo to them.
Dave Rywall on July 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM
But, but, but, hasn’t Juan instructed us that they are all God’s Children?
MB4 on July 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM
I and my then girlfriend were walking through that area the night before this gang rape and murder happened. But for the grace of God…. When the local paper gave details of the crime, it quickly got to the point where a lot of people wanted to storm the jail, and ’speed up the pace of justice.’
.
Besides the fact that the UN has no right to tell Texas what to do (and has no spine when it comes to true human rights violations in the rest of the world), these monsters need to die. The only shame is that the state is not allowed to torture them for 4-5 hours before they kill them, like this gang did to the two teenage girls.
Think_b4_speaking on July 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM
The UN used to be a silly toy that the utopians had put together to make everyone feel better after WWII. It never saw much use beyond that of a communication channel, which was the absolute limit of its safe use. Now, we have people in power who don’t seem to understand that the theoretical basis of the UN – a peerless, competitionless organization – is such that it can never be actually empowered. This is basic evolutionary theory.
Any peerless, competitionless entity will grow unrestricted by environmental constraints and is guaranteed to become grotesque and destructive over time. Even national governments have competition – people can emigrate to another country. But the UN would be alone. It is so simple to see the stupidity of empowering such an organization that it defies explanation that so many have been tricked into thinking that the UN is actually needed. The naive/stupid nature of UN backers is quite astonishing.
progressoverpeace on July 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Great! When’s the BBQ? The sooner these scum are room temperature the better. I’ll even spend money on extra gas to get a generate going to get ol’ sparky up and running.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Hang ‘em! That way we can conserve on electricity. Sounds like a win-win all the way around.
GarandFan on July 16, 2008 at 2:51 PM
If the U.N. can’t handle Mugabe, or Iran, what the hell are they going to do with Texas?
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Hey, World Court……Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one gets filled first. Don’t mess with Texas (and I live in Indiana!).
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM
That the Estados Unidos Mexicanos to you Lorien.
Zetterson on July 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Hey Texas. Cook ‘em. Now. That ought to send a message. No?
Zetterson on July 16, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Are you referring to this?
Article 4 Section 4 Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Simply put, if a treaty is itself unenforceable as law under the Constitution, the POTUS has no authority to agree to it.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Very few day-to-day issues arise that would be worth literally dying for. This is one – liberty or death.
I’ll gladly write a response letter to the world court, as long as I get permission to use the words rope and piss in the same sentence.
T J Green on July 16, 2008 at 2:55 PM
So what if Texas just turns right around and executes these scumbags? What is the World Court going to do about it? Hold Texas in contempt? Big deal! The World Court is nothing but a bunch of blowhard aristocrats who issue edicts that few if any pay any attention to.
pilamaye on July 16, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Exactly MB4, I think what Allah meant to say is not to elect Democrats or RINOs. Quite a delema we find ourselves in eh…
Zetterson on July 16, 2008 at 2:56 PM
I much prefer the words “f***” and “you” in my letter to the World Court.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 16, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Good question. We are better armed and a lot meaner. And as Dr. Cwac Cwac said, “Don’t Mess With Texas!”
Link to story at top of page was broken. I found it here.
brtex on July 16, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Here’s some advice to the “World Court” from a Texan: we will do what we want to do and you can kiss our a$$es if you don’t like it. We’ve been independent minded for centuries.
carbon_footprint on July 16, 2008 at 2:58 PM
That is exactly what Texas plans to do starting August 5. And believe me it will be widely publicized not because of the ICJ crap but because Medellin is so hated.
Blake on July 16, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Hey World Court –
How’s my Texazz taste?
innominatus on July 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM
That should be: Article 6, clause 2. But I do think that is what Allah is calling the supremacy clauses.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM
This was a horrible crime and Houstonians (me included) remember it well. These two girls took a short cut home one evening, were jumped, raped and murdered as part of a gang initiation.
I don’t care what nationality they are. They committed the crime in Texas, we tried them, convicted them and sentenced them to death. It’s as easy as that.
pullingmyhairout on July 16, 2008 at 3:05 PM
You know, Chuck Norris is a Texas resident.
I think he should go to the UN as an ambassador of Texas and tell the World Court, Chuck Norris style, that Texas can take care of itself and mind your own business, thank you very much.
SPCOlympics on July 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Chuck Norris reads Hot Air.
carbon_footprint on July 16, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Well, at least its as easy as that to us sane patriotic Americans. It just seems fuzzy to all those who fall outside of that category.
Zetterson on July 16, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Texas to UN: See the shape of our great state? That’s the shape of our right hand when we signal our reply to you in sign language!!!
landlines on July 16, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Well, his handle damn sure isn’t Alphie.
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Maybe we should follow World Court rulings when the UN starts giving us back all the money we’ve spent to float this useless body.
Kendrick on July 16, 2008 at 3:11 PM
THE CHOSEN ONE?? Redpill??
Zetterson on July 16, 2008 at 3:11 PM
I say we do this the only remaining logical way. Put this guy in Joe Horn’s neighbor’s house, with a T.V. in his hands.
Weight of Glory on July 16, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Probably the latter. We know how important it has always
been for Bush to kiss the ass of our “good friend” Mexico (all while the Mexicans are busy sticking it to us in every way they can).
And please God, don’t ever let the U.S. have any more “good friends” like Mexico, because I don’t think this nation could survive any more “friends” like that.
AZCoyote on July 16, 2008 at 3:16 PM
These murderous thugs need to meet the Turk sooner rather than later. Just one less illegal immigrant criminal to deport vertically.
saiga on July 16, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Nope. Redpill was banned. Allah would never ban Chuck Norris, Chuck would have leveled wherever Allah lives with a blast of his nostrils.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 3:17 PM
So had these Mexicans been kept out at the border, (at least) 51 people would still be alive. Huh.
Akzed on July 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM
These UN wads can kiss my rosie red. And to think we are the principal source of funding.
Isolationism sounds better every day.
saiga on July 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Yikes…typo…well spotted :)
Yes. This is the ’supremacy clause’ which, together with the ‘privileges & immunities clause’ of 4:2:1 (predating the oft-cited 14th amendment by 80 years), gives us the concept of ‘incorporation’. I was wondering why AP was referring to it in support of this ‘World Court’ opinion/demand.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM
You know, Ted Nugent lives in Crawford.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 16, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I thought I felt a disturbance in the force.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:21 PM
F the UN and Mexico and the horses they rode in on.
cjs1943 on July 16, 2008 at 3:24 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Texas waffled on this. Perry is Bush with better hair. He has his eye on the white house and the Mexican government (and pharmaceutical companies) filling his pockets. He’s trying to start building the Grand Mexico to Canada Expressway(tm) (also known as the Trans-Texas Corridor) He is fighting any building of the fence or enforcement of immigration laws.
Unless OVERWHELMING public pressure is applied in this, he will stay the execution. Alas for the great state of Texas when we have leaders like this.
Corsair on July 16, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Being pro-life (which means anti-death penalty, not “every woman who has sex is legally obliged to raise an extra kid if luck would have it”), it pains me to say it but…
In this instance just like in any other instance, U.N. courts should not be listened to on any subject. Courts’ authority within the country is a function of the system of government that we have, not a result of some arbitrary agreement.
The U.N. is not a democratic entity in any sense of the word. Doesn’t mean it’s “evil” or whatever. It’s just not democratic. Their “courts” have literally nothing in common with U.S. courts. Consequently, their decisions shouldn’t be regarded similarly.
freevillage on July 16, 2008 at 3:25 PM
LOL. Perry would find himself goat roping before the ink was dry on his stay order.
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 3:25 PM
The Constitution and treaties are supreme. Treaties are not extra supreme. Treaties that contradict the Constitution are null. Then again, that principle is not exactly sacred to Congress or the courts…
Akzed on July 16, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Furthermore, any attempt to ratify such treaties, in defiance of the Constitution and the POTUS’ oath to honor & defend it, should be impeachable.
This sort of thing should probably be codified in an Amendment.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:31 PM
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I don’t know how the Supreme Court has traditionally interpreted Article 6, clause 2. But its clear that a treaty is on par with the Constitution. But whether a treaty overrides a State Constitution or not… I don’t know, but I doubt it.
Article 2, Section 2, clause 2, requires a two-thirds vote of the senate to pass a treaty, along with president’s approval. So treaties are powerful but not so easily passed.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 3:31 PM
This subject needs to be thrown in Barack’s lap ASAP. If he backs the U.N. court he can kiss the battleground states ‘adios’.
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Chuck Norris does not read Hot Air. Chuck Norris merely glances at Hot Air, and then Hot Air tells him whatever he wants to know.
TABoLK on July 16, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Maxx:
One other caveat … articles of the Constitution are all over-ridden by Amendments.
A 10th amendment case can be made here invalidating such a treaty.
Kristopher on July 16, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I agree. Typically, treaties are compacts between nations and their respective governments, and the manner in which they operate.
In some cases, treaties are attempts to impose law upon the people of nations – like the failed UN ‘gun control’ treaty.
Imagine going back to the beginning, where there is only the Constitution and no treaties. The Constitution defines the limits of government power. If a treaty subsequently emerged granting extra powers to governments, it would be a violently unconstitutional, illegal (arguably impeachable) act to ratify it. To do so would amount to an unconstitutional expansion of government outside the prescribed amendment mechanism.
Our courts are ultimately subject to the authority of the SCOTUS, nothing else, therefore no treaty can bind any court to foreign influence, and this ‘World Court’ opinion is utterly worthless.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Yes he does.
haha
carbon_footprint on July 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Chuck Norris must get a kick out of being ‘Bauerized’ so much.
Shame “Walker Texas Ranger” was such mind-numbing shit.
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Great to see that the UN is calling the shots in america..
Evidently president Hussein obama is the illuminati’s chosen one to bring the New world Order to it’s final fruition..
Hussein 08′
CHANGE!
SaintOlaf on July 16, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Can’t be. Treaties usually come without enforcement mechanisms, which puts them into their own little category, right there. On the more proactical side, if one of our amendments were not in our Constitution, but in a treaty we signed, you can be assured that it would not have the same gravity or effect.
progressoverpeace on July 16, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Perry doesn’t have the power as Governor of Texas to commute these sentences. He can stay their execution 2 times, but it is the Board of Pardons and Paroles only that can recomend commutation of the death sentences. Will they? I don’t know. Can they? Sure.
I hope they don’t.
44Magnum on July 16, 2008 at 3:49 PM
These five thugs should be drug out to the nearest tree today and hoisted up. Let them experience the sensation of slow strangulation. And afterward, they should leave the bodies up for a week. You know, so the UN and Mexico can see for themselves what weight their demands carry.
thekingtut on July 16, 2008 at 3:49 PM
It doesn’t really matter what specifics are in any particular treaty. It is quite clear that the text of the Constitution places both itself, and treaties, on equalt footing vis-a-vis ’supremacy’. Can you point to any language that suggests otherwise?
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM
I like your style ;)
LimeyGeek on July 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM
I agree that amendments “can and do” override previous parts of the Constitution. Exactly what overrides what is a long study and not everyone agrees. Yet, the Constitution is fairly straight forward, its not heavy on legalese, it was written to be understood and enforced by the People, not lawyers or even legislators.
And yes, if the People reject a treaty passed by the senate, in theory the treaty is rejected. Getting the legislators to agree on that might require some tar and feathers.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Sometimes people die of food poisoning… things happen…
Spanglemaker on July 16, 2008 at 3:53 PM
actually I would love to see a more creative method of execution. Being a Star Wars fan, I would build an execution droid that kills murderers in the same fashion that their victims perished. Which would be a lot of fun for these five.
thekingtut on July 16, 2008 at 3:55 PM
You might be right, I’m not really sure.
Maxx on July 16, 2008 at 3:56 PM
I agree that that is what is written, but I’m just saying that treaties have only rarely been treated by our Court as on an equal footing with the Constitution. We have signed too many wishy-washy, utopian treaties to take them too literally. This is the fault of everyone, but it is how it is. International diplomacy has forced this useless paper on everyone. According to the Geneva Conventions, our strategic nuclear arsenal is illegal, for any of several reasons. But who, in their right mind, would take any treaty over our actual defense needs? That’s all I’m saying. This practicality with respect to treaties always has to be kept in mind. That’s how I see it.
progressoverpeace on July 16, 2008 at 3:57 PM
cjs1943 on July 16, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Im agreeing with that…f*** em!
The UN blows! grrr
becki51758 on July 16, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Los muertos que andan.
Limerick on July 16, 2008 at 3:59 PM
What? Death by assrape? LOL!
44Magnum on July 16, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Except, of course, that wasn’t their argument, nor was it the argument of the Bush Administration. Our government argued, and three justices agreed, that the states were bound not by international law, but by U.S. treaty obligations.
Now, citing to federalism, you may say, “The states aren’t bound by treaty obligations entered into by the federal government.” Fair enough. But take care to accurately characterize the administration’s view. The administration didn’t argue that Texas was bound by international law; it argued that Texas was bound by a treaty to which the U.S. was signatory.
The World Court issued its opinion pursuant to that treaty, and not pursuant to the dictates of the U.N.
Here, we either gave our word in error, or we went back on our word, depending on how you look at it. But in either event, this was an instance in which America was not to be believed.
paul006 on July 16, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa!…………ORDERED?!
WHO THE @#$% DO THEY THINK THEY ARE?!
ThePrez on July 16, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Its really up to thye Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles. Not the Governor, not the White House, and certainly not the World Court. All Gov Perry can do is stay the executions 2 times by Texas law. Those stays are temporary and once exhausted, the Death Sentence is carried out by order of the Board of Pardons and Paroles. The Governor at that point is powerless to refuse to carry out the order.
44Magnum on July 16, 2008 at 4:16 PM
“The enemy have demanded a surrender. . . I have answered the summons with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls.”
W. Barret Travis
Seems like a lesson from history needs to be repeated for a new group of usurpers?
catmman on July 16, 2008 at 4:20 PM
If Texas pulls the trigger, I’m moving. Screw California.
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 16, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Yeah………….. the World Court.
What about this………?
…………. or this.
…….. or this.
…………. or this.
………… or this?
……… I could continue for years! The World Court, my A**!
Seven Percent Solution on July 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM
I don’t think we should wait until August 5th. There are several of us here that would be glad to administer that injection before August 5th. I’m not doing anything, I’ll volunteer.
mimi1220 on July 16, 2008 at 4:25 PM
When you finish it, send one to Tennessee so they can use it on those vicious thugs who raped, tortured, and murdered those two young University of Tennessee students in Knoxville (because they wanted to steal the white kids’ car).
AZCoyote on July 16, 2008 at 4:29 PM
You’re missing the point. According to Ted Cruz, who argued and won Medellin v. Texas case:
CultureWar on July 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM
The use of the word “shall” makes me think they should drag these guys out into the prison yard and shoot them today.
Spartacus on July 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM
This guy from Virginia would like to tell the UN’s highest court to go to hell. The UN has been a total disaster and does nothing but bilk the USA on hoaxes such as Al Gore’s global warming campaign that ensures that college professors continue to get government grants.
Travis1 on July 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM
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