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		<title>By: The Only Orthodoxy is Reason &#187; Blog Archive &#187; "The People" and the person</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-2665776</link>
		<dc:creator>The Only Orthodoxy is Reason &#187; Blog Archive &#187; "The People" and the person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] right to self-defense cannot trump The People&#8217;s monopoly on force. (This situation was only partially remedied in 2008.) Video cameras at nearly ever street corner in many towns strip persons of their right to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] right to self-defense cannot trump The People&#8217;s monopoly on force. (This situation was only partially remedied in 2008.) Video cameras at nearly ever street corner in many towns strip persons of their right to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Couldn&#8217;t Help But Comment (071708, Morning)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Couldn&#8217;t Help But Comment (071708, Morning)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] basic right of self-defense has been restored in Britain (HT Hot Air). Good, and long [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tx2654</title>
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		<dc:creator>tx2654</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the liberal wingnuts over there are getting tired of being blamed for people getting killed in the name of &quot; Thou&#039; shal not hurt another&quot;.

It&#039;s amazing how long this place we call England has had to sit and be a victim before they changed their assinine &quot; Dont hurt the criminals &quot; attitude.

Of course, D.C. has been doin it for 30 years, go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the liberal wingnuts over there are getting tired of being blamed for people getting killed in the name of &#8221; Thou&#8217; shal not hurt another&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how long this place we call England has had to sit and be a victim before they changed their assinine &#8221; Dont hurt the criminals &#8221; attitude.</p>
<p>Of course, D.C. has been doin it for 30 years, go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: sabbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>sabbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is...this is England!  They still revere their Queen because they still like being &quot;ruled&quot; by someone!  This is the navy that summarily surrendered when fired upon by some punks in the gulf!  Do we really expect people like this to take this responsibility seriously?  I don&#039;t think so!  This is for free Americans!  Truly free people who want to remain free!  People who are not willing to meet any man on bended knee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is&#8230;this is England!  They still revere their Queen because they still like being &#8220;ruled&#8221; by someone!  This is the navy that summarily surrendered when fired upon by some punks in the gulf!  Do we really expect people like this to take this responsibility seriously?  I don&#8217;t think so!  This is for free Americans!  Truly free people who want to remain free!  People who are not willing to meet any man on bended knee!</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FloridaBill on July 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You may not have been aware of this, but you were a stones throw away from some unspeakable crime holes! Hence the stated mission of the armed officers.

Glad you had a good time - it&#039;s a great fair :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FloridaBill on July 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>You may not have been aware of this, but you were a stones throw away from some unspeakable crime holes! Hence the stated mission of the armed officers.</p>
<p>Glad you had a good time &#8211; it&#8217;s a great fair :)</p>
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		<title>By: FloridaBill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1244261</link>
		<dc:creator>FloridaBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visited England last year and went to the Cheshire Fair (would recommend it to all of you). I was suprised to find they had a shooting range at the fair (5 stand) and were teaching the public how to shoot - And that the line for lessons was over a half hour long!

On the second day of the fair, my sister and I ran into several armed officers and were chatting them up when a child wandered over. You should have seen the mother hustle over and grab the child as soon as she saw the guns they were wearing. The officers told us that one of the reasons they were at the fair was to make the public less afraid of armed officers.

O/T but if you visit the UK try and time your trip to coincide with one of these fairs. The Cheshire show was SO BIG we didn&#039;t get to see it all in the 2 days we were there. County fairs here don&#039;t come anywhere near the fairs in the UK. They are great trips for the kids too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited England last year and went to the Cheshire Fair (would recommend it to all of you). I was suprised to find they had a shooting range at the fair (5 stand) and were teaching the public how to shoot &#8211; And that the line for lessons was over a half hour long!</p>
<p>On the second day of the fair, my sister and I ran into several armed officers and were chatting them up when a child wandered over. You should have seen the mother hustle over and grab the child as soon as she saw the guns they were wearing. The officers told us that one of the reasons they were at the fair was to make the public less afraid of armed officers.</p>
<p>O/T but if you visit the UK try and time your trip to coincide with one of these fairs. The Cheshire show was SO BIG we didn&#8217;t get to see it all in the 2 days we were there. County fairs here don&#8217;t come anywhere near the fairs in the UK. They are great trips for the kids too!</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A “given” right is no right at all&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Quite so. The British speak of themselves as being &#039;free&#039; and living in a &#039;free country&#039;, and that they have &#039;rights&#039; - they are no such thing and have no such thing. What they refer to as &#039;freedom&#039; is being a crown subject, and their &#039;rights&#039; are actually mere concessions.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Crime will go down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No it won&#039;t. British criminals still have no need to fear their victims. The full traditional right to arms in defence of god, crown &amp; country needs to be restored, together with the legal doctrine of &#039;home &amp; hearth&#039; defence - a man&#039;s home is his castle. This development is a long way from being a solution to anything, but as others have stated, it&#039;s at least a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A “given” right is no right at all</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite so. The British speak of themselves as being &#8216;free&#8217; and living in a &#8216;free country&#8217;, and that they have &#8216;rights&#8217; &#8211; they are no such thing and have no such thing. What they refer to as &#8216;freedom&#8217; is being a crown subject, and their &#8216;rights&#8217; are actually mere concessions.</p>
<blockquote><p>Crime will go down.</p></blockquote>
<p>No it won&#8217;t. British criminals still have no need to fear their victims. The full traditional right to arms in defence of god, crown &amp; country needs to be restored, together with the legal doctrine of &#8216;home &amp; hearth&#8217; defence &#8211; a man&#8217;s home is his castle. This development is a long way from being a solution to anything, but as others have stated, it&#8217;s at least a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1244103</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t mean all that much as the most useful self-defense weapons (handguns or knives) are still illegal,
but it is a start.  

It is obvious that what the elites have tried has failed.  Maybe the huddled masses have just finally had enough of this crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean all that much as the most useful self-defense weapons (handguns or knives) are still illegal,<br />
but it is a start.  </p>
<p>It is obvious that what the elites have tried has failed.  Maybe the huddled masses have just finally had enough of this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Hening</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243965</link>
		<dc:creator>Hening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a pistol in the photo, but are Brits allowed to bear arms again or are they all buying cricket bats to protect their castles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a pistol in the photo, but are Brits allowed to bear arms again or are they all buying cricket bats to protect their castles?</p>
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		<title>By: tarpon</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243953</link>
		<dc:creator>tarpon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this, put a sign in front of your house, &quot;no guns in this house&quot;. Let me know how it works out for you, if you can.

England was running a countrywide test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this, put a sign in front of your house, &#8220;no guns in this house&#8221;. Let me know how it works out for you, if you can.</p>
<p>England was running a countrywide test.</p>
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		<title>By: Ares</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243921</link>
		<dc:creator>Ares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Tony Martin case was a tragedy. I remember discussing it on gun boards when it happened.

jdun on July 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Not so sure about that. 

He was jailed for shooting at a man running away from him. He shot the guy in the back. Now you might say the guy shouldn&#039;t have been there but shooting someone in the back also seems a little off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Tony Martin case was a tragedy. I remember discussing it on gun boards when it happened.</p>
<p>jdun on July 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Not so sure about that. </p>
<p>He was jailed for shooting at a man running away from him. He shot the guy in the back. Now you might say the guy shouldn&#8217;t have been there but shooting someone in the back also seems a little off.</p>
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		<title>By: OldEnglish</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243835</link>
		<dc:creator>OldEnglish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It boggles the mind of anyone with common sense how any person or government can be so damn stupid.

fogw on July 16, 2008 at 9:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They were not stupid at all, fogw, they were protecting their voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It boggles the mind of anyone with common sense how any person or government can be so damn stupid.</p>
<p>fogw on July 16, 2008 at 9:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>They were not stupid at all, fogw, they were protecting their voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Attila</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243819</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Miss Attila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Self-Defence&quot; Is Not Granted by the Government....&lt;/strong&gt;

It is a God-given right. At least Britain is moving in the right direction. Via Hot Air.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Self-Defence&#8221; Is Not Granted by the Government&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>It is a God-given right. At least Britain is moving in the right direction. Via Hot Air&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Klaus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243772</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crime will go down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crime will go down.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Adam</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243758</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an American who resides in England (USAF) I always get a reaction from the locals when they see my pistol on my thigh (Military Cop) at the base entry gates.  If we ever have to respond to protesters at the gates (show up to make sure the moonbats don&#039;t breach our perimeter) they freak out at the sight of a gun.  They act like it&#039;ll jump off my leg and start blasting uncontrollably.

Heh.  No wonder we dumped their tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American who resides in England (USAF) I always get a reaction from the locals when they see my pistol on my thigh (Military Cop) at the base entry gates.  If we ever have to respond to protesters at the gates (show up to make sure the moonbats don&#8217;t breach our perimeter) they freak out at the sight of a gun.  They act like it&#8217;ll jump off my leg and start blasting uncontrollably.</p>
<p>Heh.  No wonder we dumped their tea.</p>
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		<title>By: BDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>BDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;opting not to press charges against victims&#039;

That&#039;s mighty kind of them. There is just so much wrong with the whole concept of pressing charges against &lt;em&gt;victims&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;opting not to press charges against victims&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s mighty kind of them. There is just so much wrong with the whole concept of pressing charges against <em>victims</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243726</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035798/Shock-figures-reveal-Britain-safe-knife-violence-spreads-EVERYWHERE.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Revealed: Nowhere safe in Blade Britain as knife violence spreads to provinces
&lt;/a&gt;

I love the name they gave it: Blade Britain. It would be funny but for the fact people are being seriously injured and/or killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035798/Shock-figures-reveal-Britain-safe-knife-violence-spreads-EVERYWHERE.html" rel="nofollow">Revealed: Nowhere safe in Blade Britain as knife violence spreads to provinces<br />
</a></p>
<p>I love the name they gave it: Blade Britain. It would be funny but for the fact people are being seriously injured and/or killed.</p>
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		<title>By: INC</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243684</link>
		<dc:creator>INC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, &quot;Britain Awake!&quot;

and just when I&#039;d decided it was past time for me to relegate
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/ww2-music-uk.html#There%27ll%20Always%20Be%20An%20England&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There Will Always Be An England&lt;/a&gt; to the dust bin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, &#8220;Britain Awake!&#8221;</p>
<p>and just when I&#8217;d decided it was past time for me to relegate<br />
 <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/ww2-music-uk.html#There%27ll%20Always%20Be%20An%20England" rel="nofollow">There Will Always Be An England</a> to the dust bin.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still trying to grasp the concept that defending one&#039;s self is a &quot;given&quot; legal right subject to withdrawl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still trying to grasp the concept that defending one&#8217;s self is a &#8220;given&#8221; legal right subject to withdrawl.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243585</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... been given the legal right to defend themselves ...&quot;

A &quot;given&quot; right is no right at all and the prevailing attitude that it is so guarantees only that it is at the whim of the government as a later part of the story clearly shows:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The new self defence law, which came into force yesterday, is contained in the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 and was announced by Mr Straw last September.

He is understood to have decided new laws were necessary after he was involved in four &quot;have-a go’’ incidents, which included chasing and restraining muggers near his south London home.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That only reason for the change of heart is that Straw brushed too close to having to defend himself in court.  England is still ruled by monarchs who give and take &quot;rights&quot; as is deemed expedient to save their own a$$es.

Still, this is good news.  The people of Britain can rejoice their government will be whit more benevolent for a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; been given the legal right to defend themselves &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>A &#8220;given&#8221; right is no right at all and the prevailing attitude that it is so guarantees only that it is at the whim of the government as a later part of the story clearly shows:</p>
<blockquote><p>The new self defence law, which came into force yesterday, is contained in the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 and was announced by Mr Straw last September.</p>
<p>He is understood to have decided new laws were necessary after he was involved in four &#8220;have-a go’’ incidents, which included chasing and restraining muggers near his south London home.</p></blockquote>
<p>That only reason for the change of heart is that Straw brushed too close to having to defend himself in court.  England is still ruled by monarchs who give and take &#8220;rights&#8221; as is deemed expedient to save their own a$$es.</p>
<p>Still, this is good news.  The people of Britain can rejoice their government will be whit more benevolent for a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony737</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243569</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in time to fight back against the jihadis.

Welcome back from LaLaLand, mates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in time to fight back against the jihadis.</p>
<p>Welcome back from LaLaLand, mates.</p>
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		<title>By: vonspringer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243537</link>
		<dc:creator>vonspringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the right to self-defense unless you actually have something with which to defend yourself.  This just means you aren&#039;t as likely to be jailed for breaking a lamp over a burglar&#039;s head, should he not stab or shoot you first.

Still, it&#039;s a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the right to self-defense unless you actually have something with which to defend yourself.  This just means you aren&#8217;t as likely to be jailed for breaking a lamp over a burglar&#8217;s head, should he not stab or shoot you first.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: jdun</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243484</link>
		<dc:creator>jdun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tony Martin case was a tragedy. I remember discussing it on gun boards when it happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tony Martin case was a tragedy. I remember discussing it on gun boards when it happened.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243463</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean that self defense will become a lawful reason to own a gun?  When I spent three months there in early 2000, you couldn&#039;t own a gun unless you killed your own food...and even then.  

I always thought the baseball bat stock at sporting stores was a myth, but after seeing it, they sell alot of bats for a country that doesn&#039;t play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that self defense will become a lawful reason to own a gun?  When I spent three months there in early 2000, you couldn&#8217;t own a gun unless you killed your own food&#8230;and even then.  </p>
<p>I always thought the baseball bat stock at sporting stores was a myth, but after seeing it, they sell alot of bats for a country that doesn&#8217;t play.</p>
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		<title>By: freevillage</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/16/basic-right-of-self-defense-restored-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-1243445</link>
		<dc:creator>freevillage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally you can shoot an intruder in England. Now, if only they allowed to own a gun in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally you can shoot an intruder in England. Now, if only they allowed to own a gun in the first place.</p>
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