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O’Hanlon: “Livid” over Barack Obama’s Iraq op-ed

posted at 1:20 pm on July 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Republicans were not alone in castigating Barack Obama over his op-ed on Iraq and his policy commitments made in the article.  Michael O’Hanlon of the center-left Brookings Institute, a supporter of the war in Iraq as well as a frequent critic of the strategies employed by the Bush administration in it, pronounced himself “livid” over Obama’s essay — and hinted that Obama shouldn’t get elected as a result:

The Times commentary drew a furious response from the McCain campaign, with Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) calling it “an unbelievably brazen effort by a politician to rewrite history.” He accused Obama of building “a political strategy around losing” the war.

Republicans were not alone in that response. Michael E. O’Hanlon, a Democratic defense analyst at the Brookings Institution who has been an outspoken supporter of the war in Iraq, said he could not believe that Obama would put such a definitive timeline into print before a trip to Iraq, where he is to consult with Iraqi leaders and U.S. commanders.

“To say you’re going to get out on a certain schedule — regardless of what the Iraqis do, regardless of what our enemies do, regardless of what is happening on the ground — is the height of absurdity,” said O’Hanlon, who described himself as “livid.” “I’m not going to go to the next level of invective and say he shouldn’t be president. I’ll leave that to someone else.”

O’Hanlon doesn’t exactly hide his distaste, even if he doesn’t want to get explicit about it.  A week ago, O’Hanlon tried putting a better spin on it with Fox News, calling Obama’s shifts on Iraq an “evolution” rather than a flip-flop.  At that time, O’Hanlon guessed that Obama would hear the story from General David Petraeus and the rest of the commanders on the ground before establishing a policy, and called the status of Obama’s Iraq policy “ambiguous”.

Now, O’Hanlon calls Obama’s presumption in devising a policy before finding out the facts “the height of absurdity”, a criticism echoed by John McCain today:

And I note that he is speaking today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left, before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time. In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy.

Obama has attained a strong odor of arrogance in this campaign, which even his putative allies have noticed. He seems to believe himself to know all without any need to study issues or research facts — which may be part of why he finds himself hitting reverse so often in this campaign.


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“To say you’re going to get out on a certain schedule — regardless of what the Iraqis do, regardless of what our enemies do, regardless of what is happening on the ground — is the height of absurdity,” said O’Hanlon

Damn those Communists, and their Five Year Week Plans.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Obama has attained a strong odor of arrogance in this campaign

Which may well be his downfall.

Spirit of 1776 on July 15, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Having a sharp analyst like O’Hanlon on his team would lend Sen. Obama some needed gravitas on the most important issue our nation faces. Instead, he chooses be the Prophet Barack and drive away the few remaining sensible adults in his Party.

Go, Obama.

irishspy on July 15, 2008 at 1:28 PM

He had to reassure the ‘roots he was four-square behind defeat, I’m telling ya.

If he didn’t before he left, he might not have had enough money in the bank to get home.

Typhoon on July 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM

It’s just the politics of liberalism. “We know better than you”… so why should facts play a part?

Texas Rainmaker on July 15, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Obama has attained a strong odor of arrogance entitlement in this campaign, which even his putative allies have noticed.

Fixed.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 1:31 PM

He seems to believe himself to know all without any need to study issues or research facts

Of course that’s probably exactly how he got through Harvard and, for that matter, to become the presumptive Nominee of the Democrat Party..

The poster boy for Affirmative Action.

Frigging Liberals.

there it is on July 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM

He seems to believe himself to know all without any need to study issues or research facts — which may be part of why he finds himself hitting reverse so often in this campaign.

That way when he is proven wrong, he can fain ignorance.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Of course he believe he is a Messiah. Only he has the answers to everything. Everybody else is a racist pig who does not know anything according to BO. He went to a Harvard and graducated from Law School so that makes him very smart.

BroncosRock on July 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Obama has attained a strong odor of arrogance in this campaign,

Hey, Obamessiah………….your sh!t does stink.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM

I was thinking the same thing as I watched his speech.

He hasnt been to Iraq for 900 days…how does one make any decisions without seeing and knowing first hand what is going on there.

I also made the mistake of watching his speech during lunch…wrong move there.

becki51758 on July 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM

I’m sure his latest Iraq position is carefully considered…to shore up his campaign fundraising. First things first for Senator Obama. I hope it’s not also to shore up laundered foreign money fundraising.

RBMN on July 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM

O’Hanlon is a right wing hack.

Why pretend he’s a leftie?

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM

When you know you are on the wrong side of an issue and need to maintain the position for other reasons (finances, special interests, political agendas) the justifications, spinning, and flip-flopping (to maintain some degree of intelligent appearance) becomes hard to track. The thought processes were never logical or well-thought out in terms of policy and the big picture – only in terms of the specific agenda that is separate from the actual reality. So who needs to ‘find-facts’ when the only fact necessary is Soros money, Move-on/Kos support, or weakening the US?

jerseyman on July 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Yet another angle for late-night comedians to explore, if they have the cajones to do it.

aero on July 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM

…first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy.

Those guidelines are for ‘regular’ floks. For the Prophet, he’s all knowing.

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM

“To say you’re going to get out on a certain schedule — regardless of what the Iraqis do, regardless of what our enemies do, regardless of what is happening on the ground — is the height of absurdity,” said O’Hanlon, who described himself as “livid.” “I’m not going to go to the next level of invective and say he shouldn’t be president. I’ll leave that to someone else.”

We know this, he knows it but if the RNC and McCain don’t tell anyone in the medium they understand–TV–the public won’t know it.

All they will continue to know is what the DNC and Obama puts on the air everyday–Obama as the second coming.

We need “before and after” commercials of Obama on a weekly basis spoken in his own words.

patrick neid on July 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM

After he returns from Iraq, he’ll find some way to meld his op ed piece with what he says Petraeus told him, so he’ll slither out from under that one while trying to appear prescient and in tune with the real world. It’s getting tougher and tougher, though. He can’t seem to open his mouth without exposing his incompetence.

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM

O’Hanlon is a right wing hack.

Why pretend he’s a leftie?

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM

alhpi, you stand up comedian, you!

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Obama has attained a strong odor of arrogance in this campaign

Why do you think he is referred to here rather frequently as B.O.?

pilamaye on July 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Of course you’re right. We mere mortals keep forgetting that as a divine being, Sen. Obama knows the future of Iraq better than anyone in Iraq or anyone in the military.

RBMN on July 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM

O’Hanlon is a right wing hack.

Why pretend he’s a leftie?

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Wow what a zinger.

Forget what anyone thinks about the war… Hanlon is right on one thing- how stupid is Obama to put out his strategy immediately before going to Iraq. If the commanders tell him 16 months can’t be done, he’ll look like a fool. If he changes his strategy after talking to him he’ll have a mutiny before the convention that will make his lying about FISA look like a teaparty.

Chuck Schick on July 15, 2008 at 1:46 PM

The wheels are coming off. The hubris is catching up with him. Rallies at Invesco and Brandenburg? If I hear one more major policy speech wherein he talks out of both sides of his mouth, my head is going to explode. These speeches are his way of artfully avoiding providing straight answers. Whenever he gives a straight answer (like with his new phangelled Iraq policy), he proves himself an arrogant naive idiot — an extremely dangerous combination. Let him be cross examined by a half-competent non-sycophant journalist for 10 minutes and it would be evident the emperor has no clothes– shoot, even McCain could do it in a town hall meeting — as if we will ever see one of those. Macho Obama might work up the courage to face McCain mono-e-mono in a speech giving contest, but that is about all we can expect from him.

I have never been that partisan, but Obama is the worst equipped and least qualified Presidential candidate that I have ever heard of or read about.

tommylotto on July 15, 2008 at 1:47 PM

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM

So, Barry has all the facts he needs for decision making on Iraq before he consults with Petraeus? C’mon alphie, tell us how he got to the decision making part. Does Soros carry more weight than Petraeus?

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Republicans were not alone in castigating Barack Obama over his op-ed on Iraq and his policy commitments made in the article.

Can you add a link to Obama’s article for us to read for ourselves rather than taking your word for it? I understand that most are all too willing to tear Obama apart, but I’d prefer to do this based upon an analysis of what he wrote rather than accepting it 2nd and 3rd hand. Thanks.

Send_Me on July 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM

O’Hanlon is a right wing hack.

Why pretend he’s a leftie?

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM

What’s happening at the porta-potty today Alphie? Any new people stop by to relieve themselves? How’s your efforts going to get them strewn across suburbia?

TheBigOldDog on July 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Churchill once talked about Royal Navy Admiral Jellicoe, Grand Fleet commander from 1914-1916 and the senior British commander at the Battle of Jutland during World War I as,”. . . the only man on either side who could lose the war in an afternoon.”, in describing the immense responsibilities on Jellicoe’s shoulders as he was the man in charge of Britain’s naval blockade of Germany.

This quote fits Obama perfectly but for entirely different reasons. If he becomes president and is allowed to execute his policies then he will be handing victory to the Islamofacists and will give them victory in this Global War on Terrorism and Islamofacism in the span of an afternoon. He is indeed the only man capable of snatching Defeat out of the jaws of Victory.

Bubba Redneck on July 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM

A capella,

What would Petraeus tell Obama?

Bribe everyone you can’t kill in Iraq?

Thousands of dead Iraqs and hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars wasted every year?

Sounds great!

The right’s “solution” to Iraq is no solution at all…just playin’ for time.

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:52 PM

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:52 PM

So, he shouldn’t even bother to go? Then, why is he? Just for votes and image? BTW, you didn’t answer my question about Soros.

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 1:55 PM

And I note that he is speaking today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left, before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time.

He won’t listen to Petraeus, the General is just a mere mortal. I seem to recall another famous politician in History that wouldn’t listen to his generals either. But he ordered Operation Barbarossa anyway, and how did THAT turn out?

See? We can compare politicians to Hitler, too.

Tony737 on July 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM

The wheels are coming off. The hubris is catching up with him.

tommylotto on July 15, 2008 at 1:47 PM

We can only hope. Yet I remain skeptical that his media sycophants will ever ask him a pointed question. They’re being mildly critical now, in the slow midsummer season, just so they can pretend they’ve been “fair” once their nonstop Obama advocacy kicks into high gear after Labor Day.

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Looks like Rove nailed Obama’s personaility as the snarky guy belittleing others at his private country club.

WashJeff on July 15, 2008 at 2:00 PM

compared to alphie, Mao was nothing more than a right wing hack.

MarkTheGreat on July 15, 2008 at 2:00 PM

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Hey, alphie, I just gleaned this from the Politico article up in headlines.

The Obama campaign has not, until very recently, coordinated a daily message with congressional Democrats, leaving Democratic members in the lurch when they’re asked to comment on the constant back and forth between Obama and John McCain — as they were when Obama said earlier this month that he would “continue to refine” his Iraq policies after meeting with commanders on the ground there.

Why in the world would Barry say this if you are correct in the message Petraeus will give him? Is Barry being deceptive?

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM

That way when he is proven wrong, he can feign ignorance.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM

FTFY

LimeyGeek on July 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Hmmm… thinking on it…

Obama is no longer giving interviews with any Journalists… not even freindly ones.

He declined an interview with the Lady La Raza who interviewed McCain… and I have not seen or heard any real commentators talking to him lately…

He hiding? Hoping he can last out till the election?

Romeo13 on July 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM

If I was Petraeus, I’d tape the whole meeting so there can be no question about what he tells Barry.

Romeo13 on July 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Romeo13 on July 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM

He has all the staying power of MC Hammer

LimeyGeek on July 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM

LimeyGeek on July 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Thanks! Damn spellcheck!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Romeo13 on July 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Tru dat, playa. Shine the light of truth on the cockroach’s campaign, and watch them all scatter.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM

That’s the word: Arrogance.
“Always act like a Somebody, or get treated like a nobody.”
Obama’s handlers must have taken notes during the last Presidential campaign, when John Kerry was obviously too humble.

Doug on July 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM

I confess I was surprised to learn that “fain” is a real word :)

LimeyGeek on July 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM

To say the wheels are coming off this sorry-ass campaign is to assume it had wheels in the first place.

rockmom on July 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM

“Always act like a Somebody, or get treated like a nobody.”

There’s a certain amount of theatrics of this nature that is necessary….but there had better be something solid backing it up, or it’ll wear transparently thin in short order – a la Bronco Bomber (hat tip to whomever I plagiarized)

LimeyGeek on July 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM

whoever

LimeyGeek on July 15, 2008 at 2:19 PM

alphie is just a victim. The Iraq war has caused him/her a great deal of bad feeelings.

kirkill on July 15, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Obama is no longer giving interviews with any Journalists… not even freindly ones.

He hiding? Hoping he can last out till the election?

Romeo13 on July 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Hoping he can last out till the election the war?

When his left hand starts to shake and he retreats to his bunker in Chicago, even he will know the end is near. When he loses, he will be sullen, sickly and very reclusive.
Many more will be thrown under the bus… They wont deserve to live.

Swinehound on July 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM

O’Hanlon tried putting a better spin on it with Fox News, calling Obama’s shifts on Iraq an “evolution” rather than a flip-flop. At that time, O’Hanlon guessed that Obama would hear the story from General David Petraeus and the rest of the commanders on the ground before establishing a policy, and called the status of Obama’s Iraq policy “ambiguous”.

Which would be fine if Obama had the cajones to admit facts have the ability to change his mind, but he can’t risk a FISA like jihad by the nutroots again.

Nutroots are going to blow their stack if Obama admits the obvious, which is we are winning and deny the nutters the defeat they so desperately want and pretend is happening.

Topsecretk9 on July 15, 2008 at 2:23 PM

O’Hanlon is a right wing hack.

Why pretend he’s a leftie?

alphie on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM

I suppose that O’Hanlon lost his standing in Libtardville when he reported the progress in Iraq as positive, morphing himself in to a right wing hack.

Everybody knows the only person qualified to throw fellow libs under the bus is Obama, unless you have a permission slip from the Messiah himself. If so, a cut and paste will do.

swami on July 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Come now. Neither his rhetoric nor his sequence of action need follow any logic wrt to Iraq or Afghanistan. Why not? Because he plans on pulling out of both countries.

He’s planning on the wimping out of America.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Fear not! The Messiah will lay his hand upon Petraeus and give him the Word. The General will then drop to his knees and beg forgiveness, and then all will be sweetness and light. Not to mention Hope and Change.

MrScribbler on July 15, 2008 at 2:32 PM

…O’Hanlon lost his standing in Libtardville…
swami on July 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM

That is why this is such a show.

Libs will eat their own, as soon as he’ not toeing the partyline.

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

The wheels are coming off.

Well, with that many people under there, it’s hard to keep the wheels on.

Buford Gooch on July 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM

My lord everyone….if we can’t win the presidency from this stupid ass fluff ball then we are sorry indeed and will deserve what we get.

Winebabe on July 15, 2008 at 2:39 PM

You exit a war before it’s won, exit a pregnancy before it comes to term…
Liberalism. It’s virtual, consequence-free reality – at least until its chickens come home.

whitetop on July 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM

He’s planning on the wimping out of America.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Abort, abort.

—Obama 08

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Come now. Neither his rhetoric nor his sequence of action need follow any logic wrt to Iraq or Afghanistan. Why not? Because he plans on pulling out of both countries.

He’s planning on the wimping out of America.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 2:27 PM

You really think so? I could see him using the progress in Iraq as an excuse for bailing, but Afghanistan with Pakistan being in the shape they’re in? Man, if the ball went up in Paky and we didn’t have any significant force close by, he would look even more silly than he does now.

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM

The wheels are coming off.

Well, with that many people under there, it’s hard to keep the wheels on.

Buford Gooch on July 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM

The Obama has a specially built bio-fuel bus that runs on tracks, not wheels. Why get stuck or drag all those bodies around? Better to grind them up and keep rolling. That’s about the only military technology Blitzkreig Barry believes in. And it will help Michelle’s kids.

RickZ on July 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM

He hiding? Hoping he can last out till the election?

Romeo13 on July 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM

He’s hiding all right. Every time he speaks off-teleprompter his campaign has to unleash the W.O.R.M. Patrol (What Obama Really Meant) to “clarify” and clean up after him.

Obama was swept to primary victory on a wave of vague high-level thematic theatrics. Now that specifics are in order his emptiness and incompetence are beginning to show.

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Rockmom,
“To say the wheels are coming off this sorry-ass campaign is to assume it had wheels in the first place.”

Well, throwing someone under the bus doesn’t have as much impact if the bus is up on blocks.

exhelodrvr on July 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM

In fact, he apparently now wants to invade Pakistan and is making it known to the world. That should set well with those European countries he wants to impress.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4339451.ece

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

I hear Kerry has two wind-surfing boards.

Dusty on July 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

You really think so? I could see him using the progress in Iraq as an excuse for bailing, but Afghanistan with Pakistan being in the shape they’re in? Man, if the ball went up in Paky and we didn’t have any significant force close by, he would look even more silly than he does now.

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Yes I do. Check today’s headline, but I’ve been saying this for a while.

The Dems want us to lose both wars. They want the economy to tank. It’s their revenge against Bush for the 2000 election.

They’d see this country go under to have their petty little revenge.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 3:02 PM

To be clearer, they want anything initiated by Bush or associated with him to fail.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 3:04 PM

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Word.

Swinehound on July 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM

The Dems want us to lose both wars. They want the economy to tank. It’s their revenge against Bush for the 2000 election.

They’d see this country go under to have their petty little revenge.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 3:02 PM

I wish this wasn’t true but it is. The Democrats in the last few years are beginning to remind me of the ultra-leftists I knew back in college, who wanted to create all kinds of horrors for the American people so their “revolution” could occur and they could seize power.

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Are you sure they haven’t tried all these past years?
You know, ultra-leftists from college days DO grow old, and become what?

Modern ultra-leftists.

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Obama has attained a strong odor of arrogance in this campaign, which even his putative allies have noticed. He seems to believe himself to know all without any need to study issues or research facts — which may be part of why he finds himself hitting reverse so often in this campaign.

This is a very telling observation on Sen. Obama’s campaign and his thought process. It’s very alarming that he has a good chance to become president.

Jill1066 on July 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Hopefully, General Petraeus will take Barry Baby to the woodshed in Iraq, so he doesn’t have to answer to him next year. While Barry inserts forefingers into both of his protruding ears, singing la-la-la, my strategy worked, I have judgment to lead!

O’Hanlon might be livid about Obama’s rush to judgment without knowing the facts, but do facts matter to Obama’s supporters, or are they still fainting at his oratory?

Steve Z on July 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM

In fact, he apparently now wants to invade Pakistan and is making it known to the world. That should set well with those European countries he wants to impress.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4339451.ece

a capella on July 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

It’s all talk. As soon as he and the rest of the Left can figure out a way to abandon Afghanistan, they will.

baldilocks on July 15, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Sir Napsalot on July 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM

You’re right, it’s certainly many of the same people.

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Obama was swept to primary victory on a wave of vague high-level thematic theatrics. Now that specifics are in order his emptiness and incompetence are beginning to show.

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM

I keep wondering if we’re going to be hearing from one (or more) of Obama’s disillusioned supporters about how the Obama campaign was planting those “fainters” in his audiences, in order to hype up the media coverage of his rallies.

AZCoyote on July 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM

His cult of personality is losing steam like Fred!’s did. Only Fred has the substance to back the cult up, and Obama doesn’t.

AlexB on July 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SWT)(SAW)

Dale in Atlanta on July 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM

You know, ultra-leftists from college days DO grow old, and become what?

Apparently they become tenured professors and would-be king makers, if Ayers and Dohrn are any example.

AZCoyote on July 15, 2008 at 3:32 PM

What a dilemma the Democrats now face. First, there’s Obambi who reminds us of the scourge of Affirmative Action / preferential treatment every time he speaks his rotating ignorance on defense & foreign policy in a condescending matter, gets caught at it and must cry bigotry for damage control. Second, there’s Jazzy Jack$on who wants to castrate the guy who threatens his race-hustle victim game through being nominated. Jazzy doesn’t like the prospect of having to get a real job now that his tired “disenfranchised by whitey” sales pitch has become less marketable.

Two hustler driven runaway gravy trains headed for a collision.

viking01 on July 15, 2008 at 3:36 PM

“To say you’re going to get out on a certain schedule — regardless of what the Iraqis do, regardless of what our enemies do, regardless of what is happening on the ground — is the height of absurdity,” said O’Hanlon, who described himself as “livid.”

To try to nation build Islamic countries, and with really no real end in sight, is the height of absurdity. If O’Hanlon is so livid let him get his a$$ over there.

U.S. forces should not ordinarily be engaged in
nation-building — sorry, nation-stabilizing — nor should
they ever be engaged in Sharia-nation-stabilizing, which
is my core problem with our overall strategy in
constitutionally Sharia-supreme Iraq as well as
constitutionally Sharia-supreme Afghanistan (not to mention
the constitutionally Sharia-supreme Palestinian Authority),
but that’s another column.

Bottom line? History shows that the conditions that drove
the model transformation of Japan do not exist today with
regard to the Islamic Middle East. We’re going to need
another strategy — for starters, an immigration policy and
new laws to halt the creep of Sharia — to ward off the
Islamization of the West.
- Diana West

*

A rather large topic. Would it cover, perhaps, such grand themes as the multicultural Big Lie that insists Western ways may be grafted — presto! — onto Islamic cultures? Or maybe the difficulties inherent in the Western-style, humane projection of power against seventh-century terrorist barbarians? No.

The classic clueless moment, however, came later in answer to a question from the floor: Did the administration ever tell Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia to bar combatants from crossing their borders into Iraq — or else? And if not (”not” is clearly the answer since these borders have been Grand Central Station for jihadists), why not? Wolfowitz owned up that the United States had said something or other at some point, but, overall, the consensus on the dais came down to a big, shrugging non-answer.

I got one of those answers myself, at least from Feith. I asked: What did these gentlemen think the United States would ultimately get out of Iraq in exchange for our massive investment of blood and treasure? And had they learned anything to make them doubt the president’s often-repeated promise that Iraq would become an “ally” in the “war on terror”? Shrug. Not interested in answering.

Looking back, there was a narrowness in the scope of discussion that time constraints alone can’t explain. It was as though the men believed every clue to heartbreak in Iraq could be found in the chain of events as they had already occurred — in papers already generated, debates already argued, rounds of infighting already waged, decisions already executed. In other words, to these men, there would seem to be nothing new worth pondering — like, for instance, the havoc Islamic ways wreak on Western-style nation-building.

Shrug.

Diana West

MB4 on July 15, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SWT)(SAW)

Dale in Atlanta on July 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM

This is the second time I’ve seen this. I get the PBUH, but what about the other two.

No good with acronyms today… PigDog

Swinehound on July 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM

The Democrats in the last few years are beginning to remind me of the ultra-leftists I knew back in college, who wanted to create all kinds of horrors for the American people so their “revolution” could occur and they could seize power.

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Well, basically, the left-wing nutballs I went to college with (circa 1970) have seized power.

Buford Gooch on July 15, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I keep wondering if we’re going to be hearing from one (or more) of Obama’s disillusioned supporters about how the Obama campaign was planting those “fainters” in his audiences, in order to hype up the media coverage of his rallies.

AZCoyote on July 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM

That would be hilarious. Barack Obama as Elmer Gantry! (Hmmm, it’s already not so far off the mark, even without accusations of planted fainters.)

Gilda on July 15, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I was at an O’Hanlon speech just before the Iraq invasion in 2003. He was no supporter of the impending war or the current administration- thinking like all leftie elite academics that the answer to all problems lies in UN resolutions.

That being said, he is flexible enough in his thinking to understand that once engaged, retreat for retreat’s sake isn’t the solution. Good on him for voicing that opposition unlike the sheep of the right that have yet to be critical of McCain as he openly advocates for amnesty, Kyoto ratification, excessive corportate taxation, and all the other ways that the candidate fails to live up to the party values.

highhopes on July 15, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SWT)(SAW)

Dale in Atlanta on July 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM
This is the second time I’ve seen this. I get the PBUH, but what about the other two.

No good with acronyms today… PigDog

Swinehound on July 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Swinehound: Obama, AND his “followers” clearly think he is a “Messiah” of some sort; even a “whitelighter”.

He is clearly not a “Chritian” Messiah, if anything he is a Marxist-Muslim who practices “Taqiyah” very effectively!

Since he thus a Muslim “Messiah”, or “Prophet”, I want to give him his due.

In Islam, when you say the name of any “Prophet”, you also have to send “salawat” or “salutations” when you say their name, according to the Quran.

Thus, when Muslims say “Mohammad”, the say “peace be upon him” (PBUH) but that is the English, but the Arabic letters for that are “SAW)

Another phrase used is: May Allah (SWT) bless him and grant him peace.”

So, you have (PBUH) in English, and the two phrases in Arabic which are abbreviated: (SWT) & (SAW)

Hence, as the good Marxist-Muslim that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is; I want to give him his due.

So from now on, when I mention his name in writing, I will include: Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SAW)(SWT)

Besides, if we can convince EVERY writer in the Blogosphere, so inclined, to do so, we can irritate the living crap out of his campaign, n’est pas??

Dale in Atlanta on July 15, 2008 at 4:10 PM

We just need to sit back and watch this dummy tank himself. His embarassing displays of ignorance are now arriving to us on a daily basis. The man is a moron. By the end of October he’ll be a national joke.

UnEasyRider on July 15, 2008 at 4:14 PM

By October? Obama is a national joke, both as a presidential wannabe and as a US Senator. He is so far over his head that only the most deluded are buying his policy ideas as workable and good for our country.

The more Obama pontificates, the more I see a self-regarding, stuck in adolescence egotist. He is a man-child trying to play adult without the character of judgment to pull off his efforts.

He has not had the courage to convene with General Petraeus. He has not convened his subcommittees. Awarding Obama with the mantle of the party must be giving the Dems buyers’ remorse. He caught their fancy (and the media’s–but they’re dazzled with appearances, not reality) through high-flown rhetoric at the 2004 DNC convention, but they never looked beyond the facade.

Obama’s thin resume, his coddled rise to power starting back in Illinois, his inability to commit through votes on substantive issues, and his lack of credentials as a responsible executive all indicate the junior senator’s unfitness for the presidency.

onlineanalyst on July 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM

Well, when your friends with a guy who BOMBED the pentagon what do you expect?

Mojave Mark on July 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM

By October? Obama is a national joke, both as a presidential wannabe and as a US Senator. He is so far over his head that only the most deluded are buying his policy ideas as workable and good for our country.

onlineanalyst on July 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM

This highlights one of the perpetual dangers facing any Democrat nominee: taking the liberal media analysis of the campaign seriously. Obama has spent the last year being assured by the MSM and the nutroots that (a) everyone hates the war in Iraq and wishes we had never gone there, (b) has forgotten about 9/11 and thinks the War on Terror is a joke, (c) hates Bush at the subatomic level, and can’t wait to vote for the first empty suit with a donkey pin that comes along, and (d) yearns to forget all about foreign policy and get back to expanding the entitlement gravy train.

Obama seriously didn’t think he needed to seriously think about any of this foreign policy and military stuff – he thought he just needed to push Hillary out of the sedan chair, then climb in and ride it to the coronation. Obama himself, and a lot of his top advisors, are sincerely shocked that their poll numbers are collapsing, and people are still more interested in talking about his galaxy of nutjob friends than his juicy social program giveaways. They come by that deer-in-the-headlights expression honestly.

Doctor Zero on July 15, 2008 at 7:05 PM

Livid? Good… for a moment there I thought I’d overreacted.

It’s embarrassing that Obama is a Senator, let alone the likely donkey candidate for POTUS.

T J Green on July 15, 2008 at 9:44 PM

online,
“Obama is a national joke, both as a presidential wannabe and as a US Senator. He is so far over his head ”

I strongly suspect that, at the beginning of the campaign, Obama, et al, did not think he would be the nominee. This was going to be a “test the waters”, get some campaigning experience, get national exposure, and either be the VP nominee or go back to the Senate, with a “real” run in the future.

exhelodrvr on July 15, 2008 at 10:19 PM

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